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Title: NDSU Week
Post by: The YO Show on September 26, 2022, 10:21:37 AM
Well, another tough out opponent for the guins. Second one in a row, albeit with a week off in between! Should be an interesting matchup as we have been incredibly strong against the run and the Bison will no doubt look to impose their will in the ground game.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Dmorton on September 26, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
And unfortunately, they will.  Our defense will tire out again due to inept offense and playcalling!
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 26, 2022, 12:32:09 PM
I am never one to say run the QB. But I think we have to because our QB is an inconsistent pa$$er, is big and can run.  We need to involve him in the run game to create conflicts to free up Jaleel.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Wick250 on September 26, 2022, 12:52:27 PM
Nothing causes the NDSU defense any real trouble.  Over the years the one thing that has been a minor inconvenience for them is a running quarterback. It would be insanity to force Crenshaw to pa$$ from a small or nonexistent pocket.  To stay in this game we must get the ball into the hands of our skilled athletes with some space to operate.  Does anybody think that our offensive coaches can come up with such a plan? I certainly don't.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: YSU1 on September 26, 2022, 01:42:54 PM
do they have a quarterback who can pa$$ on the team
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 26, 2022, 01:47:38 PM
Nothing causes the NDSU defense any real trouble.  Over the years the one thing that has been a minor inconvenience for them is a running quarterback. It would be insanity to force Crenshaw to pa$$ from a small or nonexistent pocket.  To stay in this game we must get the ball into the hands of our skilled athletes with some space to operate.  Does anybody think that our offensive coaches can come up with such a plan? I certainly don't.

I'm on the same page.  But if you know your pa$$ing game is a sh!t show and all you can do is run, it's really our only option.  Now that I've stated that, he will probably pa$$ for 500 yards.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Double ET on September 26, 2022, 03:39:57 PM
If we can’t pretend to pa$$, we will be able to run. I don’t care what he does, but, at least throw short pa$$es to the running backs, Tight ends or number 0.
Learn from the Kentucky game. If all fails, put in Mitch and let him throw a few times, then hand it off to #8 and #1.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Penquin68 on September 26, 2022, 04:35:27 PM
To have any chance we need to throw the ball to at least an average level. Without that I think we are doomed. Also we need to get our athletes in space, not in the clogged up middle. Our athletes are faster and with more moves than theirs  and we need to take advantage of our strength. But it is not easy if we have no pa$$ing game. I think our defense has a good chance against them, but the O worries me. And we need some imagination on offense that sure has not been there to help. If Crenshaw can't do anything, give MD a chance.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: YsuPride on September 26, 2022, 09:11:41 PM
I fully agree with everyone's comments.   We need to pa$$ the ball to have any kind of chance.  Crenshaw is not the answer long term.  We need a QB transfer in the upcoming cla$$.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: YsuPride on September 26, 2022, 09:12:35 PM
One with a Pa$$ing pedigree and from a major university
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: lakesbison on September 26, 2022, 11:50:20 PM
hey guys! welcome back to Fargooooooooooooooooo  its Homecoming week, should be an electric crowd and plenty of tailgating beforehand!

NDSU's 4th quarter of Arizona and 1st half of South Dakota was embara$$ing, the OC was just plain stupid and we uncharacteristically turned ball over and didnt' tackle.

I would hope we learned a lesson, but NDSU is missing 1 All American DT and our All American DE had 0 stats last game so who knows.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: The YO Show on September 28, 2022, 10:10:38 AM
hey guys! welcome back to Fargooooooooooooooooo  its Homecoming week, should be an electric crowd and plenty of tailgating beforehand!

NDSU's 4th quarter of Arizona and 1st half of South Dakota was embara$$ing, the OC was just plain stupid and we uncharacteristically turned ball over and didnt' tackle.

I would hope we learned a lesson, but NDSU is missing 1 All American DT and our All American DE had 0 stats last game so who knows.

Lakes, our two teams have that in common this year. I would still take your OC over ours. At least yours only had bad quarters of football in play calling... ours has had bad games going over the past two years now.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: YSUGO on September 28, 2022, 05:37:36 PM
Coach said earlier this week how proud he is to coach these kids and they will battle hard.  Not sure why hr felt to say that unless he know how this will play out.  I think we all know how it will end.  He hasn’t had a signature win yet.  With that offensive coordinator not sure he will get one. 

Qb’s on roster:  Crenshaw, Davidson,  Blanc,  Brungard.

Not a strong group.  Is Brungard a D1 Qb? 

Who is ultimately responsible for the recruiting on Qb’s at YSU?
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: goodnews on September 28, 2022, 09:10:02 PM
I hate to say this but there is a distinct possibility that NDSU blows the doors off the Fargo Dome on Saturday.  They may pin their ears back and bring constant pressure from their front 7.  If so, it will be LOOOONG day for the road team.  The turnover margin will be something to watch. 
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: The YO Show on September 28, 2022, 09:31:11 PM
To be fair to DP's comments about the fight the kids have, I did see that in the Kentucky game. The defense never gave up. The offense, well they didn't play the cleanest game, but they certainly tried... the playcalling left them with no option to do better though.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Wick250 on September 28, 2022, 11:53:58 PM
A 2-2 start was baked into the schedule.  We all understood this. No FCS team will beat NDSU so making definitive judgments based on what happens this Saturday is rather pointless.

The next four games after Saturday will define Phillips and his staff. North Dakota and South Dakota don't play much defense and they are bad road teams.  Western Illinois and Indiana State stink. We should be 6-2 and looking at games with a decent but not good Illinois State and two good teams that we actually defeated last season when we had much less talent.

By Thanksgiving we will be able to deliver the verdict on this staff.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Double ET on September 29, 2022, 06:00:22 AM
From today’s Tribune/Vindy

YSU Scouting Report: North Dakota State

LOCAL SPORTS
SEP 29, 2022

JOEL WHETZEL
Staff writer
jwhetzel@tribtoday.com
 
 

Correspondent photo / Robert Hayes Youngstown State defensive back Jordan Trowers (11) forces a fumble during the Penguins’ game at Kentucky on Sept. 17. YSU visits North Dakota State this week.

YOUNGSTOWN — Youngstown State concluded its nonconference slate with its toughest opponent outside of the Missouri Valley. It will begin MVFC play in the same fashion.

The Penguins (2-1, 0-0), which received votes in this week’s Stats Perform Top 25, are back on the road again, this time to the FargoDome for a matchup with the No. 1 North Dakota State Bison (3-1, 1-0), winners of nine of the last 11 FCS national championships.


“For us, they’re the standard,” YSU head coach Doug Phillips said of NDSU. “To see where you are, and use it as a measuring stick — we did that in November (a 49-17 NDSU win at Stambaugh Stadium), and guess what? We were far off. So we knew going in, and for me, it’s a measuring stick of how we recruit, how we develop … using that as a measuring stick, knowing we have to get to that point that we can compete with the best in our league.”

If the Penguins are to measure up this year, they’ll have to contend with one of the FCS’ most potent run games.

NDSU, which topped South Dakota 34-17 last week after trailing 17-10 at halftime, enters Saturday having rushed for 265.5 yards per game. That’s coming at a clip of 6.1 yards per carry, and is paced by All-American fullback Hunter Luepke, who runs for 83.2 yards per game and has six touchdowns this year.

It also comes from a stable of capable backs, as NDSU will utilize about six different backs, in addition to quarterback Cam Miller.


“They stick to it,” Phillips said of NDSU’s run game. “They run the ball 60 times a game in some cases … they have a system, they know who they are, and they’re going to stick to it.”

He added, “No matter who’s in the game, they’re running the same thing, but they do it in different ways. People say it’s simple, (but) it’s a little more complex and might look simple. … They make subtle adjustments up front — who they’re double-teaming, who they’re kicking out. They’re going to test A-gap integrity the whole game, and if you’re out of your game, it only takes one time that you’re out of your gap. They’re going to send a guard and a tailback right through it for a big gain.”

It will prove to be the toughest test yet for a YSU run defense that has given up just 69.7 yards per game — the sixth-best average in the FCS — and has shown to be the strength of that side of the ball.

Of utmost importance will be continuing to rack up tackles for loss. YSU’s 9.3 TFLs per game rank it No. 4 in the FCS, and putting NDSU behind the sticks early could get the Bison into situations in which they’re uncomfortable. Miller is 33-for-52 this season for 451 yards and five touchdowns, but is throwing for just 112.8 yards and 13 attempts per game.

As a team, NDSU ranks 112th out of 123 teams in the FCS in pa$$ing offense at 120 yards per game. That comes due in part to the departure of speedy receiver Christian Watson, who now is a Green Bay Packer. The Bison also will be without starting tight end Noah Gindorff this week due to a recurring ankle injury.

“If we can win in the trenches and recreate the line of scrimmage, then it doesn’t matter what running back we face, we’ll be able to be successful against any of them,” YSU defensive back Jordan Trowers said.

The Youngstown State offense, meanwhile, is seeking to get back on track after getting blanked at Kentucky in a 31-0 loss. YSU gained just 192 yards of total offense in that matchup, including a season-low 58 yards rushing.

Stopping YSU’s quick-strike run game has been something NDSU has had no trouble with in recent matchups. Penguin tailback Jaleel McLaughlin was kept to 52 yards on 11 carries last season and 19 yards on eight rushes the season before.

This year, the Bison are allowing 138.5 rushing yards per game, but still have the No. 12 scoring defense in the FCS at 16.25 points per game.

“It all starts with players, and then I think they have a great scheme (a 4-3 base) that fits their players,” Phillips said. “As coaches, that’s what we do. It’s players first, and then what type of schemes and formations do you have to fit the strengths of your players? They have an All-American defensive end (Spencer Waege), an All-American inside linebacker (James Kaczor), an All-American safety (Michael Tutsie), and they fit the scheme around those guys, and those guys make plays. Then those guys trust the guys to the right and left of them to make plays.”

Phillips also noted the Penguins are preparing for what should be another hostile environment — something YSU struggled with at Kentucky. The Penguins frequently were flagged for pre-snap penalties at UK.

In preparation for the dome environment, he noted the Penguins have been using their indoor practice facility.

“We use that as preparation, because have to eliminate those mistakes,” Phillips said. “We saw that at Kentucky. We’re in a coming out situation two times early in the game, and those things kill you. When you get penalties, it’s third and one and now it’s third and six; it’s third and eight, now it’s third and 13. So that was because of the crowd noise there. So we needed to a$$ess that; we needed to find a solution to it. We’re going to get tested this Saturday.”

PREDICTION

Similar to NDSU’s game at South Dakota last week, this could be an interesting one heading into the third quarter, and maybe even the fourth.

However, over the course of the second half, that NDSU run game eventually will wear the Penguins down.

NDSU wins, 31-13.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Double ET on September 29, 2022, 06:09:52 AM
It is amazing to me that the article stated that NDSU ranked 112 out 123 FCS teams in pa$$ing offense.
The difference is that they didn’t have to pa$$ and we couldn’t pa$$.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: Kandrase on September 29, 2022, 12:17:40 PM
It is amazing to me that the article stated that NDSU ranked 112 out 123 FCS teams in pa$$ing offense.
The difference is that they didn’t have to pa$$ and we couldn’t pa$$.

Yeah.. NDSU rushed for 283 yards, averaging 6.3 yds per carry against a Power 5 Team last week! That's why they only threw 12 pa$$es.

I'd also like to point out that the profanity filter on this board cracks me up,  my brain has just started replacing the 2 ss with $$ in all my football thoughts
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: lakesbison on September 30, 2022, 12:38:53 PM
looks like a sellout until YSU returned 150 tickets

tailgate should be a blast. and there's beer in the stadium finally
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: lakesbison on September 30, 2022, 05:13:29 PM
If ANY YSU fans are in town, go downtown to Broadway at 530 for the parade then hit a bar or dinner after!!
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 30, 2022, 05:59:57 PM
Thanks Lakes
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: lakesbison on September 30, 2022, 11:57:09 PM
Thanks Lakes

cya at tailgating.  there's a teammakers tent with a full bar there...otherwise just start chatting w tailgaters and you'll get offferred free drinks and food all.morning
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: The YO Show on October 01, 2022, 03:26:22 AM
 I have aspirations to make it up to the Fargo dome for a YSU away game one day. A game day stadium experience in the bucket list for sure.

Truth be told, and I told my wife this is on my bucket list, one year I will want to go to EVERY YSU game both home and away. That is something that I have a feeling I won't be able to do until I retire, and it is likely to be cost intensive but I wanna do it at least once.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: IAA Fan on October 01, 2022, 11:07:41 AM
YO: I sold my parent's home this past summer up there in Canfield. So the only thing saving me from shacking up with more distant relatives is that my daughter has a nice camper up there. They keep it on a farm in Bristol. But it has water and electricity hooked up.  I am thinking that if I can retire in decent health, I may try to give it a go for an entire season (home & away) on the road. As you said, traveling and hotel will most likely be too expensive.
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: The YO Show on October 01, 2022, 02:08:57 PM
Well I wish you luck in your attempt at IAA! Glad to know I'm not the only one with that ambition
Title: Re: NDSU Week
Post by: lakesbison on October 02, 2022, 10:11:11 PM
who were the 2 YSU dads I met in the white tent by dome b4 kickoff ?  we had a good chat.  good guys