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Title: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: YsuPride on September 06, 2022, 07:23:32 AM
Dayton up next.   They beat Robert morris last week on the road
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: guinpen on September 06, 2022, 09:59:57 AM
Dayton up next.   They beat Robert morris last week on the road

Looks like Dayton used the run game against RM, hope that helps us. Anyway, we better have a solid win.

Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 06, 2022, 12:41:08 PM
We should smash them
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Wick250 on September 06, 2022, 01:07:11 PM
On September 18, 2021 in Carbondale: Southern Illinois 55  Dayton 3

On November 20, 2021 in Carbondale:  YSU 35  Southern Illinois 18

Placing emphasis upon results from common opponents is often not wise. However....
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: YsuPride on September 08, 2022, 11:37:46 AM
Doesn't matter.   It's game by game.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Kandrase on September 08, 2022, 02:53:06 PM
All I know is if we can't blow out a non-scholarship team we're going to be in trouble in the MVFC (See 2018 season)
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Kandrase on September 08, 2022, 02:56:02 PM
All I know is if we can't blow out a non-scholarship team we're going to be in trouble in the MVFC (See 2018 season)

That stupid Butler loss is going to be forever etched into my brain... it happened on my wedding day  :'(
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 08, 2022, 06:45:17 PM
Duquesne is better than you think.  They've done a good job a stepping up their recruiting.  They beat Ohio University last year and the Florida State team they lost to beat LSU.  Duquesne actually gave FSU trouble in the running game and they scored on Duquesne using big plays. While the outcome was never in doubt, the play by Duquesne was respectable.

 That being said, we should curb stomp Dayton.

 
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Double ET on September 08, 2022, 08:21:49 PM
From today’s Tribune/Vindy:


Scouting Report Week 2: Dayton

LOCAL SPORTS
SEP 8, 2022

JOEL WHETZEL
Staff writer
jwhetzel@tribtoday.com
 
 

Correspondent photo / Robert Hayes Youngstown State SAM linebacker D’Marco Augustin makes a one-handed pass breakup against Duquesne last week. Augustin and the Penguins welcome Dayton to Stambaugh Stadium this Saturday.

YOUNGSTOWN — If it’s true that a team’s biggest jump comes between Games 1 and 2, then consider this Youngstown State’s opportunity to show it’s prepared for a steep climb in schedule difficulty after Saturday.

YSU began its season last Saturday with a 31-14 win over Duquesne, and there was plenty to like. Still, there were a number of things the Penguins (1-0) need to clean up as they host Ohio’s only other FCS program, Dayton, on Saturday at the Ice Castle before rounding out nonconference play next week at Kentucky.


“There are goals that we set each week, whether it’s yards per (pass) attempt or stopping the run. So we have to continue to focus on what we can do to get better and hit those areas,” said YSU coach Doug Phillips. “I always say that practice execution becomes game reality. I think Bill Belichick said that, and we stress that each and every day. If we’re not making the passes on third down in a Wednesday practice, what makes you think that’s going to happen on Saturday? So our kids have to take that jump, that big leap, and keep improving in those areas.”

And he highlighted a few of those areas, in addition to the aforementioned pass game. YSU began each half last week by giving up a touchdown to Duquesne, and also left points on the table due to not finishing drives and special teams miscues, the latter of which being an oddity for the Penguins since Phillips took over.

Phillips added, “There’s a lot of improvement we can make. I think this team will continually get better week by week, but we have to make a huge jump this week.”

In Dayton (1-0), YSU is getting an opponent that rallied from a 14-6 halftime deficit at Robert Morris for a 22-20 win over the Colonials.


Similar to the Penguins, Dayton used its run game for most of its offense. That begins with dual-threat quarterback Dante Casciola.

The redshirt freshman went just 10-for-19 for 87 yards passing last week, but led the Flyers with 96 yards and a touchdown on the ground.

“Compared to Duquesne, they run a lot more. The quarterback looks to run around a lot,” said YSU defensive end Dylan Wudke. “I think he had more rushing yards than passing yards. On pass plays, he’ll sit back, look around and then take off, so we have to contain him in the pocket, and in the run game we have to be early in stopping and being violent up front and change the line of scrimmage.”

As a team, Dayton ran for 230 yards and two touchdowns on 44 carries, an average of 5.2 yards per carry. In addition to Casciola, tailback Jake Chisholm, a StatsPerform Second Team All-American last year, tallied 75 yards on 22 attempts, and also led the Flyers with three receptions. He’s Dayton’s all-time leader in all-purpose yardage.

That will provide a good test for a YSU defense that had no trouble stopping Duquesne’s run game last week. The Penguins allowed just 51 yards on 25 carries.

Similarly, Dayton’s run defense was stout against the Colonials last week. Dayton allowed just 30 yards on 25 attempts for an average of 1.2 yards per carry. Linebacker Nathan Arthur led that charge with nine tackles and a forced fumble.

Of course, RMU doesn’t feature the rushing attack that YSU does, and Penguin running back Jaleel McLaughlin is coming off of a performance in which he needed only 20 carries to pile up 203 yards and three touchdowns. Behind him, Dra Rushton supplied a nice change of pace for the Penguins and ran six times for 41 yards. As a team, YSU tallied 274 yards on 41 carries — 6.7 yards per attempt.

As Phillips alluded to, though, it wasn’t a perfect day for the offense either. Demeatric Crenshaw completed just 14 of 29 passes for 154 yards and no touchdowns. He averaged 5.31 yards per attempt, and YSU’s offense struggled at times to finish drives that were venturing into Duquesne territory.

As far as Dayton’s defense goes, YSU receiver Bryce Oliver, who had six recepetions for 58 yards, noted that the Flyers will give YSU a lot of one-on-one opportunities on the outside.

“They play a lot of quarters as we watched on film (Tuesday) morning, so just manipulating certain leverages, getting certain matchups, O-line taking care of what they have to do, running backs take care of what they have to do,” Oliver added.

That also could provide an opportunity for the YSU pass game to get back to what Phillips said he saw during the preseason.

“We missed some throws that we’ve seen us hit in summer camp, and we have to go back, and figure out why we weren’t hitting those in the game,” he said. “We had that goal of 8.5 (yards per attempt). What we did was study all the playoff teams from last year … and what was their yards per attempt in the passing game? Anyone that made the playoffs, they were all in the 6.5, 7.5 and 8.5 or 9 (range), and we said that’s what we need to get to.”

ABOUT THAT SERIES HISTORY

Dayton leads the all-time series 9-1, but the teams have only met once since the 1980s. That came in 2013, when YSU defeated the Flyers 28-10.

Prior to that, the teams had last met in 1977, a 27-23 Flyer victory. Current Dayton head coach Rick Chamberlin was a Flyer linebacker in that contest.

SCORING STREAK

Dayton has scored in 498 consecutive games, but 194 of those weren’t at the Division I level. Still, it’s the longest active streak in college football. Dayton’s last shutout loss was to Marshall, 9-0, on Oct. 16, 1976.

PREDICTION

Youngstown State corrects its mistakes from Week 1 and wins 34-7, but Dayton pushes that scoring streak forward another week.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Cimo7 on September 10, 2022, 12:41:00 PM
Guins -23.5 favorites on FanDuel
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 10, 2022, 02:40:13 PM
Much better start
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2022, 04:42:32 PM
We are playing terribly undisciplined.  Not going to get it done in the MVFC.  This needs to be corrected immediately
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: YSUGO on September 10, 2022, 04:46:37 PM
I watched a little of the Bison game.  We are nowhere near there level yet.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2022, 05:16:39 PM
Whenever Bob Hannon mentions number 8 all I can think of is the safety that was the worst player that ever played YSU football.  He's the one that became a secondary coach under Pelini
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Double ET on September 10, 2022, 05:20:11 PM
Whenever Bob Hannon mentions number 8 all I can think of is the safety that was the worst player that ever played YSU football.  He's the one that became a secondary coach under Pelini
I am still trying to forget him. I think he eventually did Pelion in at LSU.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: guinpen on September 10, 2022, 06:39:03 PM
Nice 1st qtr, ok 2nd qtr, poor 3rd qtr, nice 4th qtr. Seems we never come out hot after half time.

A win is a win but I just do feel all warm and fuzzy with I have seen so far.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: Wick250 on September 10, 2022, 11:41:44 PM
Many of us have our doubts about Crenshaw's passing abilities.  But let's be fair.  Several of those touchdown passes in the first half were outstanding throws.  Who would have thought this morning that Crenshaw would now share the record for td passes in a single game.

Yes, the lack of discipline is frustrating and infuriating. I don't envy the coaches as they try to fix this.  One problem is the junk football culture that the NFL promotes on Sundays which college and high school kids want to copy. Everything demands some type of demonstration and hits after the whistle are sometimes ignored.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2022, 02:21:11 PM
Many of us have our doubts about Crenshaw's pa$$ing abilities.  But let's be fair.  Several of those touchdown pa$$es in the first half were outstanding throws.  Who would have thought this morning that Crenshaw would now share the record for td pa$$es in a single game.

Yes, the lack of discipline is frustrating and infuriating. I don't envy the coaches as they try to fix this.  One problem is the junk football culture that the NFL promotes on Sundays which college and high school kids want to copy. Everything demands some type of demonstration and hits after the whistle are sometimes ignored.

He had 3 good passes in the game. Not worth fixing. Those catches were as much receiver at QB. Sorry, but not a DI quarterback. By the time he is "Fixed" he will be gone. I am sorry, but skill positions need to be good before they play. There can be some improvements as they face quality competition, but the ability has to be there and visible.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: YsuPride on September 12, 2022, 08:12:20 PM
Kentucky up next       #12 team in nation i believe.   Maybe we keep it somewhat close.   we shall see.  then week off then beat down at NDSU.
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: The YO Show on September 12, 2022, 09:15:30 PM
I have seen Kentucky ranked #9 in the FBS. Would very much hope we keep it somewhat close. If we only lose by 2-3 TDs and keep it close first half and score TDs I will be happy. Of course, would love an upset... But not realistic
Title: Re: Football: Dayton Week
Post by: penguinpower on September 13, 2022, 05:07:53 AM
Many of us have our doubts about Crenshaw's pa$$ing abilities.  But let's be fair.  Several of those touchdown pa$$es in the first half were outstanding throws.  Who would have thought this morning that Crenshaw would now share the record for td pa$$es in a single game.

Yes, the lack of discipline is frustrating and infuriating. I don't envy the coaches as they try to fix this.  One problem is the junk football culture that the NFL promotes on Sundays which college and high school kids want to copy. Everything demands some type of demonstration and hits after the whistle are sometimes ignored.

He had 3 good pa$$es in the game. Not worth fixing. Those catches were as much receiver at QB. Sorry, but not a DI quarterback. By the time he is "Fixed" he will be gone. I am sorry, but skill positions need to be good before they play. There can be some improvements as they face quality competition, but the ability has to be there and visible.

He's more of an athlete than a natural QB.  They corrected his footwork last year and his performance improved.  Remember, Demond Tidwell was not a pa$$er either.  Neither was Armanti Edwards for App. State.  All that matters is the results.  It's been proven you can win if the team surrounding you is good.  It's more difficult, to do, but it can be done.  Crenshaw's running threat and mobility will come in useful for a relatively inexperienced OL.  It would be far more difficult having a less mobile pocket pa$$er while trying to upgrade and develop an offensive line.  If I were the coach, that's what I would want to have if I was trying to fix the plane while flying through one of the most challenging war zones known as the MVFC.

No matter how you look at it, Bo left the cupboard bare with kids that are not athletically competitive in our conference.  It's a big project to turn the roster into one that can compete.  Wolford had the recruiting part, but couldn't ever find a competent DC (and I don't think he was competent to coach defense having only been an offensive position coach).  Pelini came in here and made it to the NC with Wolford's recruits and at the same time he stopped recruiting at a high level while the team lost discipline (remember the drug tests after the Jacksonville State playoff game where we lost several key people needed to go up against the gay streamers aka JMU?)

What is DP going to do anyway?  Let's say Crenshaw cannot be coached or helped to be effective enough to win big games.  With the transfer portal available the kids that see programs with turmoil are programs they are less likely to consider.  I think we've got Crenshaw for a few more years unless we pick up a great QB that beats him out in camp.  But that change is not going to happen this year.

Just a few things to consider.