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This is hard to watch so far.
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I'm biting my tongue or typing fingers.
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Robert Morris looks like they came to play same can't be said for YSU. YSU has not played well since the first half of the IUPUI game.
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Nice crowd, and YSU comes out a lays an egg!
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You would think YSU was the team with only 7 wins!
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That dunk was it for me
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Embarrassing
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It's like the same BS over and over. Teams play zone and our players either have no clue or not coached up on how to attack a zone. Too much isolation basketball.
Coach C is playing his Fairmont state offense using all guards or swingmen. No bigs while every team in the Horizon pounds us to death and unless he gets someone in the portal then we'll see the same crap next season.
Can't let a 7-23 team come into your house especially in a tournament and walk out with a W.
Congratuation to RMU. You guys showed how to play TEAM basketball.
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Need some damn rim protectors! 6-6, 6-7 is fine, but need couple interior guys to battle inside!
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A lot to digest in this one. As I mentioned at halftime, RMU certainly came to play, played with intensity, while YSU either thought they could cake walk though this game or seemed tired. YSU never played with any sense of urgency until the end. Somehow YSU out-rebounded RMU by 1, but it sure didn't feel like it. RMU seemed to get every loose ball, every 50-50 ball, and the rebounds that counted.
It's hard to believe that 5 days YSU controlled their own destiny at a top 4 seed and had a shot at the #2 seed now they're done after being beaten by RMU for the 2nd time at home. RMU plays hard and is probably better than their record, but that was just their 8th win. They only won 5 other D1 games and one of those was St. Francis.
YSU has struggled all year against the zone and when they're not making shots like tonight it really compounds things. Then Akuchie, Cohill, and Olison were trying to force things inside with no luck.
As I mentioned above, YSU has not played well since the first half in the IUPUI game. They were out-played by IUPUI in the 2nd half allowing them to make a game of it, were beat from start-to-finish and basically weren't competitive when they needed it most against WSU & NKU and that continued tonight for much of tonight. On the other side, YSU has been dominated inside. Maybe Owens and the RMU transfer they got can give YSU some size inside next year.
Such a shame too to have that great of a crowd and not reward the fans with a good performance. I'd say half the crowd or more left with 6 mins to go when coach took out the first team. Give the guys credit for coming off the bench and at least giving the team a spark. It was actually too bad Long missed the front end of the 1 & 1 and then Olison had that turnover late when he tried to pass the ball rather than just going up with an open shot because Cohill nearly singlehandedly brought YSU back scoring 11 points in the last 38 seconds.
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Another season...another miserable end. I'm sick and tired of going thru this same crap every single year. Our future looked so good just 2 years ago. Coach C. needs to get his act together, he is a disappointment. If YSU wants to win they need to pay coaches more, gut Beeghly and make it a modern arena or move to the Covelli Centre. Beeghly is a glorified high school gym. We're never going to get better staying with the same status quo.
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Calhoun has two important jobs. He not only needs to produce a consistent winner, but he also needs to convince the disinterested population of the Mahoning Valley that men's college basketball is relevant in their lives. The catastrophe that unfolded this evening makes both of those tasks extremely difficult if not impossible.
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Calhoun has two important jobs. He not only needs to produce a consistent winner, but he also needs to convince the disinterested population of the Mahoning Valley that men's college basketball is relevant in their lives. The catastrophe that unfolded this evening makes both of those tasks extremely difficult if not impossible.
Great crowd that wanted to get into the game. 6 mins to go, YSU is down 20, the starters are coming out, and over the half the crowd is gone. It had to be a like a bad dream for Coach. The last 3 games have taken me back the last several years of the Slocum era where double digit losses and non competitive games were more the norm. Calhoun has turned the program around and has brought excitement, but I'm not sure if it's at a ceiling or what. 5 years and the best seed they've been has been a 5 and haven't gotten past the quarterfinals (Slocum did get YSU to the semi-finals in his final year_. Obviously not ready to compete with the top schools.
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RMU is 4-13 on the road, two of those wins at YSU. Number 2 is a beast for them, best player on the court. Calhoun outcoached, their zone caused all kinds of issues. Agree with Nick, at the D- level Beeghly is a dump. I was at Curbstone Coaches lunch two weeks ago when President Tressel spoke. He was asked about Beeghly, and even he said the seats beside him are falling apart and he has good seats. But he didn't say he would do anything about it.
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All YSU needs is a center to protect the paint, more guys who can score, better bench play, a motion offense that
get open looks, better defensive play. I think if we get these things we will be alright.
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Up until the last 3 games I had hope. It has been lost at this point. Last nights game was really poor as it seemed the effort was not there to keep up with RMU on loose balls and especially the inside game on both O and D. We need inside players who can not be intimidated, can rebound and score. I thought we had that earlier in the season, but it has been lost as of late. As for next year who knows what the portal can bring. Two of our best players, Dwayne Cohill and Tevin Olison, came via the portal. We need more and hope that Dwayne returns next year. Shemar and Miles seem good to me, but the other returners need to step up their game to be contributors next year. And who knows who will return with the portal etc. I guess we had a good year comparded to our past, but these last few games really hurt. We need some additions for sure.
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Up until the last 3 games I had hope. It has been lost at this point. Last nights game was really poor as it seemed the effort was not there to keep up with RMU on loose balls and especially the inside game on both O and D. We need inside players who can not be intimidated, can rebound and score. I thought we had that earlier in the season, but it has been lost as of late. As for next year who knows what the portal can bring. Two of our best players, Dwayne Cohill and Tevin Olison, came via the portal. We need more and hope that Dwayne returns next year. Shemar and Miles seem good to me, but the other returners need to step up their game to be contributors next year. And who knows who will return with the portal etc. I guess we had a good year comparded to our past, but these last few games really hurt. We need some additions for sure.
Agree 100% with this. Just seems like the intensity factor got sucked out from halftime on of the IUPUI game. YSU just had no answers to the zone and hasn't been able to stop the inside game even going back to that IUPUI game.
Had YSU played competitive against WSU & NKU, maybe won one, and beat RMU then gotten beaten in the quarterfinals it wouldn't have been such a tough pill to swallow, but this season just didn't end well again after a lot of promise.
Hopefully Cohill, Shemar, Myles & Dunn are back and can build around. Chicone has got to be able to shoot better and be a threat to score. I don't know what happened to Ogoro. Shelton needs to regain his shooting if he's going to be effective. Owen Long seems to play hard and can hit shots but is inconsistent. Kind of excited to see Owens progress. Was a little surprised Coach didn't insert him at times to help inside.
Anyone know what Collen Gurley's deal was? He's listed as a senior. He scored over 1000 points in 3 years at Mount Union. He was on the bench all year, not dressed of course. Did he just sit the year out?
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Another point is that YSU is small at point guard Mayes and chicone are in the 5-10 area. RMU and some others have small pt guards but they beat us off the dribble with their speed. Last night Green was easily getting past Mayes and breaking down the D. Mayes is a shooter in a pt guard body.
Don't give up on Luke. He was a shooter in HS and he probably should of red shirted this season. With one season under his belt Luke might look a lot better next year.
Someone mentioned Mattia Acunzo pertaining to adding size. When I saw Mattia in HS he was more perimeter oriented in the Euro mode than some one like Spear's of RMU that is an eraser.
It's too early to speculate who is coming or going but most likely to transfer might be Chris Shelton or Jacori Owens. Not that I want to see that happen but their playing time was limited. Hopefully they will continue the grind and work on their craft.
Collen Gurley (redshirt)Played D3 ball last year and was MT Unions leading scorer. Not a guy like Cohill that will take you off the dribble but known for his outside stroke. Not sure how that plays out at the D1 level.
Is Greyson Kelly getting another year ?
Does Garrett Covington get a 6th year ?
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Still have to see what Lucrotti and Irwin bring to the table! I'm tired of just being competitive enough to go out in the play-offs. I know the league is tough, but we have to take the next step! We really disappointed a pretty large crowd in YSU terms last night! Frustrating!
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Still have to see what Lucrotti and Irwin bring to the table! I'm tired of just being competitive enough to go out in the play-offs. I know the league is tough, but we have to take the next step! We really disappointed a pretty large crowd in YSU terms last night! Frustrating!
I posted a few full games earlier this year of Irwin & Lucarotti playing for Osbourne academy which plays a national prep schedule so they played much much tougher competition than a normal HS.
Never got a feel on Lucarotti .. He has nice size for a guard at 6-4 210 and seems very athletic. Didn't see a consistent stroke but he did hit threes. I saw him struggle against a guard that was going to West Virginia. Glad he redshirted which should give maturity for next season.
Thought Irwin would be the guy that wouldn't redshirt since he was physically ready for the college game. He won't be a high flyer but he is a great shooter and is more of a stretch forward although he has post up game and being left handed can't hurt. He also had some decent offers from MAC schools.
I think this is the first time in the Calhoun era that he was able to redshirt some frosh and hopefully that's the growth of the program or maybe just a result of a larger (covid) roster.
Just a point on the larger crowd that some posters have alluded to. I started going to games in 70s when Beeghly was new . The place was SRO for games againt Gannon,Akron and some others. The upper bleachers were packed and the place was loud so when I hear about last nights crowd it still does not compare to the steal mill era.
Their loss to Randolph Macon in 1977 was probably one of toughest punch in the gut feelings I've had. This was the first round of division 2 NCAA tournament that YSU hosted and we way more talented but they had great shooters and Jeff Covington had foul trouble that night. RMC went all the way to the final and lost to Tennessee
Chattanooga.
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Still have to see what Lucrotti and Irwin bring to the table! I'm tired of just being competitive enough to go out in the play-offs. I know the league is tough, but we have to take the next step! We really disappointed a pretty large crowd in YSU terms last night! Frustrating!
Just a point on the larger crowd that some posters have alluded to. I started going to games in 70s when Beeghly was new . The place was SRO for games againt Gannon,Akron and some others. The upper bleachers were packed and the place was loud so when I hear about last nights crowd it still does not compare to the steal mill era.
Their loss to Randolph Macon in 1977 was probably one of toughest punch in the gut feelings I've had. This was the first round of division 2 NCAA tournament that YSU hosted and we way more talented but they had great shooters and Jeff Covington had foul trouble that night. RMC went all the way to the final and lost to Tennessee
Chattanooga.
You had to remind me about the Randolph Macon game, I was at the game. So excited at the start and so dejected at the end.
Crowds were much larger then, recall that Philadelphia Textile usually packed in the folks also.
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Still have to see what Lucrotti and Irwin bring to the table! I'm tired of just being competitive enough to go out in the play-offs. I know the league is tough, but we have to take the next step! We really disappointed a pretty large crowd in YSU terms last night! Frustrating!
Just a point on the larger crowd that some posters have alluded to. I started going to games in 70s when Beeghly was new . The place was SRO for games againt Gannon,Akron and some others. The upper bleachers were packed and the place was loud so when I hear about last nights crowd it still does not compare to the steal mill era.
Their loss to Randolph Macon in 1977 was probably one of toughest punch in the gut feelings I've had. This was the first round of division 2 NCAA tournament that YSU hosted and we way more talented but they had great shooters and Jeff Covington had foul trouble that night. RMC went all the way to the final and lost to Tennessee
Chattanooga.
You had to remind me about the Randolph Macon game, I was at the game. So excited at the start and so dejected at the end.
Crowds were much larger then, recall that Philadelphia Textile usually packed in the folks also.
I remember the Textile coach pushing the chair on the floor after the game. Not quite Bobby Knight. They had a guard named Emery Sammons that was one of the best at D2.