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Title: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 11, 2021, 04:31:46 AM
Alright 🐧 fans, it is GameDay!  fb
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 11, 2021, 12:01:40 PM
Alright its basically game time haha. Regardless of outcome at least it is football
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 11, 2021, 12:28:38 PM
What an embarra$$ment.  When will the AD be held accountable for this underachieving department he runs?
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 11, 2021, 12:42:48 PM
Definitely like that blocked punt
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Post by: Buddy on September 11, 2021, 12:55:26 PM
Kinda what I expected.
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Post by: guinpen on September 11, 2021, 12:57:52 PM
I guess we will see what our guys are made of.

Not happy with the number of flags so far.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Buddy on September 11, 2021, 01:03:12 PM
Defense is getting roasted. Michigan Stare could score 100.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 11, 2021, 01:08:37 PM
This program is in BIG trouble.  The coach and his staff are unable to recruit.  The staff is full of D2 and D3 a$$istants that are in over their heads on gameday.  They have no connections outside of Ohio.  YSU cant compete with the staffs current recruiting foot print. 
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on September 11, 2021, 01:20:38 PM
You guys are funny.  DP just got here dude and unless you can prove you know what their recruiting process is then keep it to yourself.   Like you somehow thought we would compete in this game.  You should probably take a break from watching this team for at least another year.  No sh** we are in trouble.  We been in trouble for the last 5 years, and that was with a staff who had connections outside of Ohio.  LMAO.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Wick250 on September 11, 2021, 01:51:01 PM
The only thing surprising this afternoon is that a few of you are actually surprised by what is transpiring. You can't compete with a quality opponent when both lines are physically over-matched.  This ineptness might not translate down to our level.  Just pray for no injuries and get out of there.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 11, 2021, 02:11:06 PM
The only thing surprising this afternoon is that a few of you are actually surprised by what is transpiring. You can't compete with a quality opponent when both lines are physically over-matched.  This ineptness might not translate down to our level.  Just pray for no injuries and get out of there.

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Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 11, 2021, 02:44:39 PM
Gotta remember, thanks to the spring season we had shortened strength and conditioning time too. I still am positive about the direction. Will take time to really evaluate if we are truly going to the right direction.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Double ET on September 11, 2021, 03:49:55 PM
The 2nd effort gave us hope although it was played against their backups.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: YSU1 on September 11, 2021, 04:27:40 PM
I think it is better than beating Slippery Rock and a couple of non scholarship schools.  The program has been down a long time.  It will take time.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: guinpen on September 11, 2021, 05:31:17 PM
I think it is better than beating Slippery Rock and a couple of non scholarship schools.  The program has been down a long time.  It will take time.

You are correct, beat SRU people not happy. Lose to MSU people not happy. Have to hope this is the right coach and give a him couple of years to get his players and his system in place.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 11, 2021, 05:34:38 PM
The 2nd effort gave us hope although it was played against their backups.

Our backups were in the 4th quarter too.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 11, 2021, 06:00:21 PM
Duquesne beat Ohio today. Be glad we didn't play them at home  :-X
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: penguinpower on September 11, 2021, 06:19:34 PM
This is going to be a long rebuild but it is being done correctly.  He needs time.  In addition, Pelini f***ed them over with the violations that were hushed up well.  He had less scholarships because of the penis with anger issues. 

Now back to the coaching.  Watch the press conferences.  Phillips said that we are a "developmental program" and "we are not there yet" so be patient. 

I think he will continue to improve through recruiting and development.  Penis Pelini left the cupboard bare. 

So that being said, we are picking up pieces slowly dealing with a hamstring that Pelini left us. Now could we be more creative?  Well yes probably, but they appear to want to win a certain way.  Let them go.  We have no money and we won't have the money until we start winning again. 

I am happy to see the effort.  I think he is building a program.  It is going to take time (years) so expect it and be patient.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: guinpen on September 11, 2021, 07:21:43 PM
Duquesne beat Ohio today. Be glad we didn't play them at home  :-X

Way to go Dukes!
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on September 11, 2021, 08:56:30 PM
I think it is better than beating Slippery Rock and a couple of non scholarship schools.  The program has been down a long time.  It will take time.

Nope cannot agree. Play slippery Rock, you play to win & win. Play a good team, you play to not to lose and lose. Play a warm-up and you play your game. Be a warm-up and you bring in a team that will try not to lose at best. You only learn disappointment. Face facts, this is not an upper-half MSU team. It is only the enormous mistake called transfer portal that will keep them in the middle of the Big-10, as opposed to the basement. The portal is just another way for the less-talented to be promoted.

For us, this is not a situation where we need coached-up, we need to recruit at the high-school level. Something Bo could not do. Now we do not have the big name coach or the winning history  to do well in the portal.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 12, 2021, 12:30:00 AM
Strollo and company hired a  HC who has zero coordinator experience at the D1 level yet is expected to turn this thing around .  Not to mention he has to compete with 6 MAC schools for recruits within OHIO.   No need to worry though we have Petersons 20 year old son as the recruiting coordinator.  I could go on and on but have lost my interest after 20 years. If u don't think there is a problem look no further than this forum where only 20 posts were  made today after playing Michigan State.
 
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 12, 2021, 10:08:12 AM
Personal opinion here, but I don't think DP has done a bad job of recruiting thus far. I noticed he recruited linemen (which we desperately needed), and he hasn't done too bad with the transfer portal pickups he has.

I think everyone is being way to negative on him so far.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 12, 2021, 12:26:44 PM
I think its just very frustrating that we've had to reset the program 3 times since Heacock.  Not to mention its hard to watch when u know we're a very long way from the top of the MVFC.  All the while Strollo has left the program worse off for the incoming replacement.  Wolford was the exception since he could recruit. 
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Wick250 on September 12, 2021, 01:02:40 PM
I think its just very frustrating that we've had to reset the program 3 times since Heacock.  Not to mention its hard to watch when u know we're a very long way from the top of the MVFC.  All the while Strollo has left the program worse off for the incoming replacement.  Wolford was the exception since he could recruit.

I share your opinion about Strollo.  But Tressel hand-picked Phillips. Strollo and his "advisors" wanted someone else. At least that is what my highly reliable sources within the university have told me. I am much more inclined to be patient under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: YSUGO on September 12, 2021, 04:00:59 PM
Just a quick thought JT had no Coordinator experience either when hired.  I couldn’t find anywhere ion the internet who the original a$$istants were.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2021, 05:14:21 PM
Snider and  Dantonio
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: goodnews on September 12, 2021, 09:22:06 PM
Tressel came from a coaching family.  Second, there will never be another JT at YSU that u can count on.  Everyone needs to forget the reincarnation of JT and and move on from the 30 year old National Championships.  If people can accept that including Philips maybe he'll be successful.   
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on September 13, 2021, 08:10:23 AM
  I am skeptical that Phillips can win.  But, way too early and with Phillips being Tressel's handpicked hire, he will get a lot of time.  But so far he is 2-7.  Western Illinois is a must win, the rest of the schedule is brutal.  I have serious concerns about Crenshaw's ability to throw down field.  We need to recruit a big time Qb who can make plays in the pa$$ game.

 Since last spring our pa$$ attack is pathetic.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: go guins on September 13, 2021, 09:33:48 AM
This crap about beating up DP for losing to MSU is depressing.  This is his first real year as coach as EVERYTHING last year was screwed up. (for those of you that forgot or missed it, we had a world wide pandemic)  I'm not sure he's the right guy, but Luke Fickel and Jim Tressel do, and they know more about football that all on this thread!
We gave MSU a better game than Arron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers gave Saints, anybody saying all is lost in GB?
We are 1-1, did ANYBODY think we would be any different after 2 games? 
Frankly I feel more encouraged after the lost to MSU than I did after the win against UIW.   Certainly the MSU WR's were a ton faster than our DB's but so have many others including Terry Robiskie at OSU (a game I saw) and the guys at WVU.  Guys go to 1AA because they just don't have 1A size or 1A speed. Yes 1AA guys occasionally make the NFL, but as a general rule, size or speed help the decision process.  Now the the season starts.  Crenshaw has some serious game time under his belt, we have more wins than last season and the
check book is full. 
Time to see have we are going to stack up in the MVFC!  Most on this site are correct, we don't have enough good players, but you gotta start somewhere. DP didn't leave the cupboard bare, that a$$ Pelini did.  Give coach Phillips a chance.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Wick250 on September 13, 2021, 01:24:52 PM

 Since last spring our pa$$ attack is pathetic.

I agree.  We most definitely need to throw the ball down the field.  But here is the big question.  Can you develop a sophisticated pa$$ing game when the offensive line can not pa$$ block?  In his few pa$$ attempts, Crenshaw had half the time to release the ball that the Incarnate Word and Michigan State quarterbacks received. I feel that the coaches know this and are using plays that have the best chance for success, given our obvious shortcomings up front. Now a$$igning blame for the sorry state of our o-line is a separate issue.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: peteonastick on September 14, 2021, 07:49:34 AM
Strollo and company hired a  HC who has zero coordinator experience at the D1 level yet is expected to turn this thing around .  Not to mention he has to compete with 6 MAC schools for recruits within OHIO.   No need to worry though we have Petersons 20 year old son as the recruiting coordinator.  I could go on and on but have lost my interest after 20 years. If u don't think there is a problem look no further than this forum where only 20 posts were  made today after playing Michigan State.

The reason nobody is on this board posting anymore is because everyone is sick and tired of the cynical remarks and negative comments.  I'm about to jump off myself.  Who wants to read comments after two games that DP is no good, the team is a joke, no talent, recruiting sucks, Strollo sucks, Tressel sucks, YSU sucks...Youngstown at its finest...whoaaa is me...what have you done for me lately, steel is coming back, wear a mask - don't wear a mask.

GO GUINS
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: go guins on September 14, 2021, 08:31:22 AM
Strollo and company hired a  HC who has zero coordinator experience at the D1 level yet is expected to turn this thing around .  Not to mention he has to compete with 6 MAC schools for recruits within OHIO.   No need to worry though we have Petersons 20 year old son as the recruiting coordinator.  I could go on and on but have lost my interest after 20 years. If u don't think there is a problem look no further than this forum where only 20 posts were  made today after playing Michigan State.

The reason nobody is on this board posting anymore is because everyone is sick and tired of the cynical remarks and negative comments.  I'm about to jump off myself.  Who wants to read comments after two games that DP is no good, the team is a joke, no talent, recruiting sucks, Strollo sucks, Tressel sucks, YSU sucks...Youngstown at its finest...whoaaa is me...what have you done for me lately, steel is coming back, wear a mask - don't wear a mask.

GO GUINS
Amen!  We were sitting at the patio bar at the country club after tennis and my friend was going on and on about how terrible everything is, YSU football, the Indians/Guardians, the POTUS, etc etc.  I said, "Mike, we made more money in the marked that at work this year, we are sitting at the club eating and drinking and talking about grandkids athletic endeavors and frankly, I'm thinking how lucky I am, not how UNLUCKY I am.   Damn it, the  cup is never full, but it is a damn sight short of empty! Frankly Crenshaw's performance in these first two games should be the start of a legend and all we are about is Phillips/administration/staff/player bashing. 
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 14, 2021, 03:32:09 PM
On a positive note, the Youngstown State Football letters in steel look very awesome. I want to get something like that for myself. Hubbard Eaglewear used to make stuff for the team, and they don't make that shirt. Did YSU start using a different sportwear provider locally?
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: go guins on September 15, 2021, 09:33:50 AM
On a positive note, the Youngstown State Football letters in steel look very awesome. I want to get something like that for myself. Hubbard Eaglewear used to make stuff for the team, and they don't make that shirt. Did YSU start using a different sportwear provider locally?
Picture?  Haven't seen shirt in question.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 15, 2021, 03:50:35 PM
Check out this tweet. Very first picture: https://twitter.com/ysufootball/status/1436706390861484034?s=20
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on September 20, 2021, 09:55:46 AM
I was disappointed in our showing against MSU. Crenshaw did ok, but I thought he would do better. Naturally he didn't have time from our O line, but I still thought he would do better throwing the ball. On defense we were really out matched. Again I thought we would be slower than them, but we were really out physicaled also. I guess we are not as far along as I thought. I guess that is why we are called fans.

I see where DP is coming from at inproving our strength overall and recruiting young players we can develope. At our level we can't recruit players ready to play at our level, need to be developed. I guess JT did better than I thought at all this and made us competitive almost all the time. The only time we really looked over matched was the 1999 championship game against Georgia Southern. And their fans were the worst I ever experienced. In that game we lost an O lineman to breaking team rules and that really hurt. Their running back, Peterson I think, just ran over us. We might have done better if we stuck to our ground game when behind because our pa$$ing game was not that strong.


Watched the 1st half of the WIU game this past weekend. We better be able to throw the ball or we will be in trouble again. We can't live on just number 8.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: Kandrase on September 21, 2021, 09:59:40 AM
I think it's important to remember how we typically fair against Big 10 teams. The last time we played Michigan State they were ranked #24 and we lost 55-17. We finished that season 8-4.

This Michigan State team is currently ranked #20 and we lost 42-14.

I'm not saying we're an 8-4 team this year, but it's hard to read too much into a poor performance against a good P5 opponent.

This week against Western will give us a real idea of what this team is made of.
Title: Re: Michigan State GameDay Thread
Post by: The YO Show on September 21, 2021, 10:47:16 AM
Good points Kandrase