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Title: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 22, 2020, 07:38:37 AM
Well I haven't been on here really since I posted about the high levels of mental retardation around the Corona virus.  To the dipsh** koolaid drinking liberal that challenged me-My observations have "aged" well.

Pennsylvania has more covid deaths over age 100 than age 45, more deaths over 95 than 60, and more deaths over 85 than 80. 

As I stated earlier, this disease is being handled incorrectly in most areas other than Florida. The elderly have to be protected.  The economy is now in shambles by the decisions of hapless politicians listening to the liberal moral agents in the media and in academia.  The economic impact will cost more lives than the virus if it stays this way for much longer.  Interestingly, these same academic people that created their modeled guidelines did not consider the economic fallout and debt that our future generations will have to pay for as a result of their great advice. This alpha risk error is on par with the costs of going into Iraq when no weapons of mass destruction existed there.  Hmmm. 

Anyway, for those above 40 years of age, this could be something that interests you. https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1  They've found a link between the cytokine storm and Vitamin D3. The cytokine storm is the body's reaction to the virus that kills people with covid19 and the old Spanish flu for that matter. The study finds that it is not not only a correlation but shows causation at a .05 level of significance.  Basically for those of you who do not understand the statistics, mortality from covid19 and case rates of covid19 show causation on D3 levels.  If you are below 30 nmol/L you are screwed and cases are high. If you are above 63 nmol/L you are better off and if at 80.....well practically 0 death rate and cases. 

If you aren't on a supplement of D3 living in NE Ohio you are probably low but don't just run out and take it because you can overdose on D3 if you get over 100 nmol/L in your blood serum.  If you are an aging male, well, you probably need more than a female the same age.  If you are white and spend time in doors, you can probably take 5000 international units three to five days a week for a few months and be fine in Ohio.  If you are a person of color you may need more like 5000 units 7 days. D3 is a fat soluble vitamin that is also known as the sunlight vitamin. Fat soluble means it stores in your fat.  If you lose weight expect stored D3 in fat to be released increasing your blood serum level.  Your body also converts cholesterol into D3 but as you age the conversion efficiency is lower.  Skin pigmentation slows the conversion rate. That means if you are black you have better resistance to skin cancer but will have lower D3 levels as compared to a lighter skin person with the same amount of sun exposure...same with other races (it is not a race thing but a ecposure/pigmentation ratio thing).

This applies to anyone with higher skin pigmentation vs lower and may explain why the death rates among Blacks and Latinos is higher.  It may so explain why the death rates are so much higher in the North East.  The Vienna Arsenal was built in NE Ohio during WW2 because the cloud cover there is so constant (something like 333 days per year) they knew Spy planes wouldn't be able to find it as easily.  My point is that Florida and Georgia are not seeing the same death rates as NY and NE Ohio-they get more sun too.  It could simply be related to D3 levels plus other comorbidity factors.

Bottom line is see your doctor take your supplements demand the season is played and go to the games.  The average age of death from this virus on the USA is something like 75.  The average mortality rate in the US is around 74  down from somewhere around 82 due to the stupid heroin epidemic plaguing the area and nation as well (keep telling yourself we don't need borders). 

YSU has announced that they will resume normal classes in the fall and it is a good move.  Now we have to demand football.

The liberal media wants an economic collapse because they want Trump out of office and socialism where the predetermined academic elites make all the calls because they know better.  Power and control is all they care about and I am sick of it.  If you know how to interpret statistics this study shows a lot of variation but clear causation and the logic behind it makes sense. 

I am not a conspiracy theorist but as I see the lack of journalistic curiosity and omission of relevant, & significant information so I am beginning to believe there may be one.  Some of the moral subjects on this board are incapable of independent thought and believe everything fed to them by liberal arts major journalists with an activist cause, void of critical thinking skills, and armed with IQs running around 70.  What does that say about those who believe them?


 In new guidance, the CDC estimates that about a third of coronavirus infections are asymptomatic and 0.4% of those with COVID-19 will die.  That's on par with the H1N1 flu almost exactly which hit the country in 2009-2010.

The 2020 season should be played as it has always been.  Keep the elderly protected until vaccinations are available.  The entire thing is a scam.

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on May 22, 2020, 10:12:31 AM
 Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts. 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 22, 2020, 10:21:29 AM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on May 22, 2020, 12:17:50 PM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.

Where are you getting that 0.4 % number from?

As of yesterday Mahoning County had 1310 confirmed cases and 162 deaths, that figures out to over 12 %.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 22, 2020, 12:48:28 PM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.

Where are you getting that 0.4 % number from?

As of yesterday Mahoning County had 1310 confirmed cases and 162 deaths, that figures out to over 12 %.

Straight from the CDC. But in case there are some left leaning people that don't believe it (and want to confiscate business assets) here it is from your point of view.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/health/cdc-coronavirus-estimates-symptoms-deaths/index.html
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 22, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.

Where are you getting that 0.4 % number from?

As of yesterday Mahoning County had 1310 confirmed cases and 162 deaths, that figures out to over 12 %.

But 35% don't show symptoms.  I recently saw that testing in NE ohio showed that 25% of people there are showing antibodies and that was when that type of testing was only a few days old.  They are saying now 33%-35% have antibodies.  Been in US since November.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on May 22, 2020, 01:05:23 PM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.

Where are you getting that 0.4 % number from?

As of yesterday Mahoning County had 1310 confirmed cases and 162 deaths, that figures out to over 12 %.

But 35% don't show symptoms.  I recently saw that testing in NE ohio showed that 25% of people there are showing antibodies and that was when that type of testing was only a few days old.  They are saying now 33%-35% have antibodies.  Been in US since November.

Ok so where are you getting the 0.4%

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 22, 2020, 02:39:07 PM
I am getting the 0.4% from here:

Straight from the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
1.5% for people 65 and older. the reason why the % looks to be so much higher is that many people have already had it or they are not showing symptoms when they had it. so the Mahoning County number is likely not a representative sample if you consider the number of cases that don't show symptoms.  BTW the 0.4% number is for the population that actually shows symptoms.

But in case there are some left leaning people that don't believe it (and want to confiscate business assets) here it is from your point of view.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/health/cdc-coronavirus-estimates-symptoms-deaths/index.html
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ELPENGUIN on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 AM

administrators, as a minority who does not believe radical right wingers. Please take Penguin Power of the air. He  or she is a negative asset to a sports site.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: YSUGO on May 23, 2020, 07:13:59 AM
I have known Penguin Power for almost 30 year.  He’s a hard working family man, served his country and well educated.  He is passionate in what he believes.  But he has a right to his opinion just like you and me.  We all as Americans need to be more tolerant on what we disagree on and find a common ground to solve our problems. 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ValleyTalk on May 23, 2020, 07:28:24 AM

administrators, as a minority who does not believe radical right wingers. Please take Penguin Power of the air. He  or she is a negative asset to a sports site.
Certainly seems like the “solution” being implemented by big tech is to silence certain types of opinions that goes against a certain narrative. The beautiful thing of our country is our freedom of speech. There is plenty of nonsense on both sides of the aisle spewed on social media every hour. We don’t need a thought police from big tech or admins on this website to silence certain types of opinions. We need educated Americans who can see through the crap and research information to make informed opinions. Cmon man.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on May 23, 2020, 07:35:11 AM
Please move this topic to general bs forum. It doesn't belong in the sports topic.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Double ET on May 23, 2020, 08:20:36 AM
From today’s Vindy/Tribune on YSU football topics:

https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2020/05/one-still-standing/

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Joe Bernastat on May 23, 2020, 09:28:18 AM
I find penguinpower and his posts to be extremely well researched and informative.  I also think that they provide valuable information as it relates to YSU sports.  In the United States of America, on Memorial Day weekend no less, it is bothersome to me that some are calling for him to be censored or silenced because they do not like or agree with his views.  Surely, these folks are not as compassionate and accepting of others as they may purport to be.  However, they do have the choice to simply ignore what they do not agree with. That is what makes the United States of America great.

God Bless the USA!
God Bless all of our veterans and military!
God Bless the Great State of Ohio!
God Bless the Great City of Youngstown!
God Bless Youngstown State University!

Let’s join together to make them all great again!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 23, 2020, 03:43:57 PM

administrators, as a minority who does not believe radical right wingers. Please take Penguin Power of the air. He  or she is a negative asset to a sports site.


Stop with the race crap. I'm not a racist you are acting like one because you had to state the fact you are a minority.  How do you know I am not a minority?  I want the damn season to be played and there are good reasons for it, which, I am pointing out.  I am not a right winger either.  I am a libertarian.  The liberals are now American Communists as so eloquently pointed out by Black Conservative Candice Owens. The communists have taken over the left and the media is complicit. Keep drinking the cool aid. This disease shouldn't be shutting the economy down. There is data to prove it. We need sports to resume immediately.  Don't lack tolerance because I am stating facts that you disagree with. You can't win that argument so do as all the liberals do.....silence people or hide in your safe space.

The 2020 season needs to be played.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 23, 2020, 04:59:16 PM
My belief is football will be played this fall.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 23, 2020, 06:06:40 PM
My belief is football will be played this fall.

I hope so. we need to demand it
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on May 26, 2020, 09:40:05 AM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.

Where are you getting that 0.4 % number from?

As of yesterday Mahoning County had 1310 confirmed cases and 162 deaths, that figures out to over 12 %.
First, as anybody (including you) know the confirmed cases equals a SMALL % of total cases and to do mortality rates, you need to divide deaths by the TOTAL infection rate.
Last I looked at our roster, I saw "very few" 70+ aged players.  I thing the death rate among YSU player ages is even lower, like .02%, or less than driving, drinking or drugs.
Look at the life cycle of any of these flu or corona virus.  By July we should be about -0- infection rates.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 26, 2020, 01:37:56 PM
Demand football being played, lol.  You are so shortsighted.   What happens when a college football team has several players test positive?   Who is paying for the testing?  What happens when a coaching staff tests positive?

 YSU like many colleges are laying off staff and pay cuts are happening and have taken place, but you want to charter a jet and fly YSU 4 times across the country and yet there likely is no or little revenue coming into the program?  Each charter costs at least 80 thousand dollars.

 This isn't Ohio State where there are millions of dollars coming in from television contracts.


Mortality rate is 0.4% How is that any different on what happened in 2009 -2010?  We didn't stop sports for it. Same rate exactly.  The disease has been here since it November and 33% of people don't even know they have it.  A few more months and we should reach herd immunity levels.

Where are you getting that 0.4 % number from?

As of yesterday Mahoning County had 1310 confirmed cases and 162 deaths, that figures out to over 12 %.
First, as anybody (including you) know the confirmed cases equals a SMALL % of total cases and to do mortality rates, you need to divide deaths by the TOTAL infection rate.
Last I looked at our roster, I saw "very few" 70+ aged players.  I thing the death rate among YSU player ages is even lower, like .02%, or less than driving, drinking or drugs.
Look at the life cycle of any of these flu or corona virus.  By July we should be about -0- infection rates.

I ran the numbers according to the CDC guidance model and it preducts that 115,714 people in Mahoning county have or had the virus already.  As of 2019 there are 228,683 people there so if you live there you have a ~50/50 chance of having antibodies because odds are that you are asymptomatic based on CDC information. 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on May 26, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
Starting to stray from Football. That article showing only one returning O lineman is very concerning to me. O hope we give a bit stronger up there this year. Need to get that run game back up to par.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on May 26, 2020, 04:22:10 PM
So allow me to play the Devil’s Advocate for a moment

In 71 maybe 72 my accounting professor started out by asking the class what 1 + 1 was. We looked at each other and wondered how we should answer this simple question. Two?

His reply was; what do you want it to be? Point being that numbers can be massaged to support a desired conclusion.

I am not saying that your numbers are wrong, just suggesting that they  need to be taken with a grain of salt.

By using CDC info should we really believe that half of Mahoning County either has the virus, has had the virus or has antibodies preventing the virus? Seems very unlikely to me.

I only know three people that have the virus, friends. Can I make a case that I only know 6 people in Mahoning County? My professor would make a case that I could.

All three are in their 40's and all three have been fighting it for 3-5 weeks. Not a fun time for them, lost work is the least of their problems, but since they have not died I guess it is not a big deal that they have it.

Let us assume that 115,000 plus people do have it, how would you like to be an 80 year old sitting at a game wondering if the person next to you is one of THEM? Wait the CDC suggests that we may be ok if we stay 6 feet apart and we all wear masks. Like that is going to happen.

Like I said just playing the Devil's Advocate.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on May 26, 2020, 09:38:39 PM
Starting to stray from Football. That article showing only one returning O lineman is very concerning to me. O hope we give a bit stronger up there this year. Need to get that run game back up to par.

This is why we will finish toward the bottom of the conference.  A miracle will need to happen otherwise. We are in a rebuild again

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on May 27, 2020, 09:38:44 AM
Starting to stray from Football. That article showing only one returning O lineman is very concerning to me. O hope we give a bit stronger up there this year. Need to get that run game back up to par.

This is why we will finish toward the bottom of the conference.  A miracle will need to happen otherwise. We are in a rebuild again
last years OL was marginal at best.  Did fine against cupcakes, got killed against MVFC teams except last game. 
Yes, Becker is only returning starter, but a bunch of the back-ups had significant playing time, and should not play like true freshman.  Truth is a couple the guys gone won't be missed, and time to give younger guys a chance.  Frankly they can't be much worse.  Zinni was OK and Jones was pretty good until he took the cheap shot, but otherwise, I hope they got good educations.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on May 27, 2020, 10:47:51 AM
 Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.

But bigger issue is the conference is stronger than ever, and was very evident last year.  It is much more than top heavy, Southern Illinois beat us by 25, and they deserved a playoff berth;  they have just about everyone back, they did graduate all american safety Jeremy Chinn.  South Dakota scored 56 on us, they had a top 15 recruiting class, and although they graduated a good QB, they have many returning.

 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on May 28, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.

But bigger issue is the conference is stronger than ever, and was very evident last year.  It is much more than top heavy, Southern Illinois beat us by 25, and they deserved a playoff berth;  they have just about everyone back, they did graduate all american safety Jeremy Chinn.  South Dakota scored 56 on us, they had a top 15 recruiting class, and although they graduated a good QB, they have many returning.
Nobody is talking about missing spring ball, because there is nothing to talk about, but it's a HUGE deal for a new HC and staff and going into the season with a new QB to boot.  DP and his staff have their hands full anyway, even without COVID-19  Plus we start out with a renewal game against Akron and have only one cupcake on the schedule, and even Duquesne is better than they've been sometimes.   this is going to be tough sledding until (or if) the OL jells.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: YSUinBoston on May 28, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
On the one hand, infectious disease experts around the world are treating this as a serious problem.  On the other hand, some anonymous internet poster doesn't agree.  Boy---this is tough.

Dude should drive around in his truck making videos about his views
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on May 28, 2020, 08:33:39 PM
Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.


As always any new coach needs years to get in his players and get his system up and going. If a complete rebuild takes longer and we have the right coach it will be worth the wait.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: YSU1 on May 31, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
That is why the Bo experiment was a waste of time,  He was not going to stay at YSU.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 01, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.


As always any new coach needs years to get in his players and get his system up and going. If a complete rebuild takes longer and we have the right coach it will be worth the wait.
This might have been an accurate reflection 10 or 20 years ago, but not now.  Phillips is any good, he's gone in MAX 5 years.  You take a D-1 job as DB coach and it pays X2 a 1-AA head coaching job.  Coordinator's are getting 4X even 5X the 1-AA HC amount. 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 01, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.


As always any new coach needs years to get in his players and get his system up and going. If a complete rebuild takes longer and we have the right coach it will be worth the wait.
This might have been an accurate reflection 10 or 20 years ago, but not now.  Phillips is any good, he's gone in MAX 5 years.  You take a D-1 job as DB coach and it pays X2 a 1-AA head coaching job.  Coordinator's are getting 4X even 5X the 1-AA HC amount.

If a big time program is after him that means he has done something good at YSU, so that is good for us. Then we find another up and comer.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Kandrase on June 01, 2020, 12:21:43 PM
Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.


As always any new coach needs years to get in his players and get his system up and going. If a complete rebuild takes longer and we have the right coach it will be worth the wait.
This might have been an accurate reflection 10 or 20 years ago, but not now.  Phillips is any good, he's gone in MAX 5 years.  You take a D-1 job as DB coach and it pays X2 a 1-AA head coaching job.  Coordinator's are getting 4X even 5X the 1-AA HC amount.

Not necessarily true, Phillips was making less at UC as running backs coach than he is at YSU. Some P5 assistants certainly make a lot though. I think Phillips will stay unless offered a coordinator position at a big time g5 program or a P5 school, he’s 52 and seemed excited to come home. Doesn’t feel so much like a stepping stone to me. Sure if he gets a massive coordinator offer I wouldn’t be surprised but just another positions coach seems unlikely to me
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 01, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
Agree on complete rebuild, and asking anything more of Coach Phillips is unfair.  Already up against it, new coaching staff and no spring ball is not good.


As always any new coach needs years to get in his players and get his system up and going. If a complete rebuild takes longer and we have the right coach it will be worth the wait.
This might have been an accurate reflection 10 or 20 years ago, but not now.  Phillips is any good, he's gone in MAX 5 years.  You take a D-1 job as DB coach and it pays X2 a 1-AA head coaching job.  Coordinator's are getting 4X even 5X the 1-AA HC amount.

Not necessarily true, Phillips was making less at UC as running backs coach than he is at YSU. Some P5 assistants certainly make a lot though. I think Phillips will stay unless offered a coordinator position at a big time g5 program or a P5 school, he’s 52 and seemed excited to come home. Doesn’t feel so much like a stepping stone to me. Sure if he gets a massive coordinator offer I wouldn’t be surprised but just another positions coach seems unlikely to me
Secret is he has no series of P5 9 win seasons to fall back on for credibility like Bo did.  DP NEEDS success to earn his creds.  I agree, but I think JT was pretty secure here, but the prestige and $$$ was too much.  Frankly I think Bo would have stayed except for the MILLIONS!  We NEED success on the field, DP needs success on the field.  Let's hope we both get what we need! Frankly this roster is good enough to make the playoffs in every area but the huge ?? OL.  I will be disappointed with less than 7-5
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 02, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
They have started replacing the turf at Stambaugh.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 02, 2020, 03:59:05 PM
They have started replacing the turf at Stambaugh.
Great!  Big question:  Pete or Y on the 50?
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 02, 2020, 04:20:51 PM
They have started replacing the turf at Stambaugh.
Great!  Big question:  Pete or Y on the 50?

I believe it will be Pete
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 02, 2020, 04:27:15 PM
They have started replacing the turf at Stambaugh.
Great!  Big question:  Pete or Y on the 50?

I believe it will be Pete
Great!  Not universally loved I know, but my #1!!
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: The YO Show on June 02, 2020, 06:01:40 PM
They have started replacing the turf at Stambaugh.

Chief this is the best news I have heard in a long time. Thank you for sharing. Please post updates when it is finished if you can. Would love to see how it looks!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Kandrase on June 02, 2020, 11:24:31 PM
They have started replacing the turf at Stambaugh.
Great!  Big question:  Pete or Y on the 50?

I believe it will be Pete
Great!  Not universally loved I know, but my #1!!
Thanks for the update!

Same, I’ll be so disappointed if it’s not Pete
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 03, 2020, 03:09:15 PM
Pics of the field on Twitter & News channels:
https://www.wfmj.com/story/42201572/turf-being-replaced-at-stambaugh-stadium
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 03, 2020, 04:26:49 PM
Looks like Pete is gone ...Boooo!! Cowards! At first it was Pete, then a mixture of Pete and the block-Y, now just the block-Y; which is what they had planned the whole time. It is as bad as politicians leaking bad news out on Friday night. Next we will hear the standard ... 'it was a tough decision...blah, blah, blah'.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 03, 2020, 05:14:32 PM
They were originally going to keep Pete but looks like they are going to the block Y like in Beeghly. I like it.

They are also going to have different end zones.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 03, 2020, 05:44:56 PM
Surprised they are facing West. Guess the loges mean more than TV. I have not seen my envelope yet, but I hear all seats are reserved. Anyone get theirs yet and confirm?
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: The YO Show on June 03, 2020, 08:11:07 PM
I have not gotten anything.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Kandrase on June 05, 2020, 01:52:59 PM
Surprised they are facing West. Guess the loges mean more than TV. I have not seen my envelope yet, but I hear all seats are reserved. Anyone get theirs yet and confirm?

Makes sense to me, it’s still the “home” stands, would probably seem strange to face the visitors stands even though TV is over there.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 11, 2020, 10:34:55 AM
What are everyone's thoughts on the guarantee for the games? I think they do plan on a regular season, but the guarantee makes you wonder.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 11, 2020, 11:42:21 AM
What are everyone's thoughts on the guarantee for the games? I think they do plan on a regular season, but the guarantee makes you wonder.

What guarantee are you talking about?
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Wick250 on June 11, 2020, 02:40:58 PM
What are everyone's thoughts on the guarantee for the games? I think they do plan on a regular season, but the guarantee makes you wonder.

What guarantee are you talking about?

If you buy season tickets and the games are not played, the university will refund your money or issue you a credit that can be used for the next season.  This applies to both football and basketball. 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 11, 2020, 02:47:04 PM
What are everyone's thoughts on the guarantee for the games? I think they do plan on a regular season, but the guarantee makes you wonder.

What guarantee are you talking about?

If you buy season tickets and the games are not played, the university will refund your money or issue you a credit that can be used for the next season.  This applies to both football and basketball.

Makes sense, thanks
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: The YO Show on June 11, 2020, 09:18:27 PM
Less than 3 months till the (potential) scheduled start of college football!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 12, 2020, 08:17:24 AM
Less than 3 months till the (potential) scheduled start of college football!
If you go backward 3 months and look at where we were, and have been, it is reasonable to expect the same amount of change in the next 3 months, so baring HUGE CONTINUING OVERREACH on the part of government, we should be full steam ahead for opening day!!  Go Guins!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 12, 2020, 01:18:41 PM
I understand that most stadiums have gone to all reserved seating, so they can manage seating distances. Tailgating will be interesting. The Stambaugh tikcet map would indicate YSU is doing the same.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 12, 2020, 02:21:34 PM
I understand that most stadiums have gone to all reserved seating, so they can manage seating distances. Tailgating will be interesting. The Stambaugh tikcet map would indicate YSU is doing the same.

Noble idea but people will move and sit where they want to, just the way it is.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: HappyPenguin on June 13, 2020, 09:53:45 AM
The University of Houston announced that they had 6 athletes test positive for coronavirus yesterday. The school had allowed some football and basketball players back on 6/1 for voluntary workouts, which they have now suspended.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/houston-halting-voluntary-workouts-after-6-athletes-test-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB15pgXo?ocid=chromentpnews

Its probably not going to take a whole lot for schools to start cancelling fall camps and seasons next, and once one school does that a lot of AD's will feel pressure to do "something" and the whole fall sports slate can fall apart quickly.

I certainly hope this doesn't happen but will not be the least bit shocked if it does.

Anyone know if we have allowed any of our kids back to use the campus facilities?

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 13, 2020, 11:06:06 AM
The University of Houston announced that they had 6 athletes test positive for coronavirus yesterday. The school had allowed some football and basketball players back on 6/1 for voluntary workouts, which they have now suspended.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/houston-halting-voluntary-workouts-after-6-athletes-test-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB15pgXo?ocid=chromentpnews

Its probably not going to take a whole lot for schools to start cancelling fall camps and seasons next, and once one school does that a lot of AD's will feel pressure to do "something" and the whole fall sports slate can fall apart quickly.

I certainly hope this doesn't happen but will not be the least bit shocked if it does.

Anyone know if we have allowed any of our kids back to use the campus facilities?

Kids are allowed back on campus for workouts. They've had about 40-50 back doing voluntary workouts with strength coach but no actual football coaches are allowed to contact yet.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: The YO Show on June 13, 2020, 06:54:08 PM
chief, what day did the voluntary workouts start?
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 13, 2020, 09:27:17 PM
chief, what day did the voluntary workouts start?

Tuesday the 2nd. No on field coaching or anything with the playbook. Just weight and field workouts with the strength coach.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: penguinpower on June 14, 2020, 04:25:34 PM
Well,

The COVID19 thing will not impact the season.  Some perspective on the virus below.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history/

 Hopefully these fools at some of the more liberal schools don't cancel because they are scared.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: The YO Show on June 15, 2020, 08:37:16 PM
chief, what day did the voluntary workouts start?

Tuesday the 2nd. No on field coaching or anything with the playbook. Just weight and field workouts with the strength coach.

At least most programs in the country seem to be on the same boat. I have no idea what to expect from this year, losing the spring and what we have lost so far this summer seems rough for development
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 16, 2020, 12:17:35 PM
chief, what day did the voluntary workouts start?

Tuesday the 2nd. No on field coaching or anything with the playbook. Just weight and field workouts with the strength coach.

At least most programs in the country seem to be on the same boat. I have no idea what to expect from this year, losing the spring and what we have lost so far this summer seems rough for development
For college age kids this is equivalent to the flu. We certainly wouldn't be talking about stopping YSU football for some flu cases in Houston!  It is clear the closing and sheltering demands were wrong as was closing schools.  Let's pray we learn something from our mistakes! 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 16, 2020, 08:28:11 PM
chief, what day did the voluntary workouts start?

Tuesday the 2nd. No on field coaching or anything with the playbook. Just weight and field workouts with the strength coach.

At least most programs in the country seem to be on the same boat. I have no idea what to expect from this year, losing the spring and what we have lost so far this summer seems rough for development
For college age kids this is equivalent to the flu. We certainly wouldn't be talking about stopping YSU football for some flu cases in Houston!  It is clear the closing and sheltering demands were wrong as was closing schools.  Let's pray we learn something from our mistakes!

Problem is that the coaches, trainers, refs etc etc etc are not all college age kids. Glad I do not work in the athletic department, no doubt pressure from all sides. No matter what you decide someone will second guess you.

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Wick250 on June 16, 2020, 11:19:36 PM
I am not making any political statement whatsoever, but the ongoing street protests and the upcoming indoor Trump rallies will doom college sports this season.  These events will inevitably lead to a significant spike in the spread of this virus, and conferences will cancel the fall schedules sometime in August.  This will actually be a relief to individual school administrations who will be liberated from making controversial decisions.  I hope that I am wrong, but I don't expect to see YSU sports until the fall of 2021.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 17, 2020, 09:06:49 AM
I think it's a pretty long stretch to say a rally in Tulsa for a couple hours is going to significantly impact the college football season, and while the protests have been pretty intense in a few cities, they have been predominately inner-city blacks and no matter how we may feel and no matter our rhetoric, as a society we don't seem to care much about them either.  Seems to me a few leftists may get the flu and a few rightists may get the flu, it balances out and by the end of June all is forgotten.  Then you have all of July to forget about SARS-2 and by fall, we'll be good to go.  I saw 22 people wearing masks yesterday and I didn't see ONE being worn correctly.  If this virus affects the neck or chin, then these people are going to be in GREAT shape.  If you strap on a mask and pull it down around your neck, ala Nancy Pelosi, then just leave it in your pocket!  How dumb.
The actual truth about the virus and football is this: IF we have a credible treatment, and maybe steroids are the answer, but if we have a treatment, and IF we are well on the way to a credible vaccine but the start of football, they we will have football.  If we have neither, then no matter the facts, football seems unlikely
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 18, 2020, 10:40:32 AM
I am not making any political statement whatsoever, but the ongoing street protests and the upcoming indoor Trump rallies will doom college sports this season.  These events will inevitably lead to a significant spike in the spread of this virus, and conferences will cancel the fall schedules sometime in August.  This will actually be a relief to individual school administrations who will be liberated from making controversial decisions.  I hope that I am wrong, but I don't expect to see YSU sports until the fall of 2021.

I hope that you are wrong also, would say that chances are 50/50 that there will be football this fall. really wonder how "ready" players and teams could be. Would only take a couple of schools anywhere to cancel and there would be a domino effect country wide.

Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 18, 2020, 12:50:32 PM
I agree Guinpen, but it only takes one conference (like the big-12, which has already done so) to say that games will go on as scheduled and we will have games. There is no way that an OSU, or an Alabama sits at home while some team from the Big-12 declares themselves the national champions. Well this is why we have an NCAA.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 18, 2020, 04:48:45 PM
I agree Guinpen, but it only takes one conference (like the big-12, which has already done so) to say that games will go on as scheduled

Ah yes, the sound of money!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 19, 2020, 08:55:41 AM
I am not going to wear a mask at the tailgate, unless maybe I am mingling in a large crowd. No hand-shaking I guess.  I pretty much stay within my group. However, I have no issue with wearing a mask for a couple of hours during the game. Heck late season I will enjoy the warmth.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 19, 2020, 08:58:04 AM
I agree Guinpen, but it only takes one conference (like the big-12, which has already done so) to say that games will go on as scheduled

Ah yes, the sound of money!
In the immortal words of the greatest philosopher of the 21 century, Cuba Gooding Jr. "show me the money"  (A line frequently credited to Tom Cruise, but said to him, not by him)  Money aside, football as usual requires at LEAST an effective and readily available treatment and most likely a credible vaccine at least near widespread distribution.  Only a few schools benefit from TV.  Most, like YSU's only football revenue stream is ticket sales.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 24, 2020, 05:50:39 PM
https://twitter.com/youngstownstfb/status/1275900591785598979?s=21
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: HappyPenguin on June 25, 2020, 06:54:25 PM
https://twitter.com/youngstownstfb/status/1275900591785598979?s=21

Looks great, thanks for the updates as always Chief
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Wick250 on June 25, 2020, 07:05:48 PM
According to WFMJ, half of the new turf has just been rolled back up.  Apparently, the light green color was not what we ordered.  The turf with the correct color should arrive in a few days.  This is no big deal since the turf was not yet properly anchored.  Chief, fill us in if you find out any more details.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 25, 2020, 08:44:05 PM
Good, it looked terrible to me
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 25, 2020, 10:01:23 PM
It was the wrong shade but it will still be 2 different shades of green for each 10 yards for anybody who does not like that kind of thing.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: guinpen on June 28, 2020, 08:01:25 PM
It was the wrong shade but it will still be 2 different shades of green for each 10 yards for anybody who does not like that kind of thing.

Hope that the new color will look better, just not a big fan of that. Not that I will lose sleep over it.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 28, 2020, 10:56:37 PM
Ty Eddington, a 6-3, 330 pound DT is grad transferring in from Eastern Michigan.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 29, 2020, 10:02:15 AM
It was the wrong shade but it will still be 2 different shades of green for each 10 yards for anybody who does not like that kind of thing.

Hope that the new color will look better, just not a big fan of that. Not that I will lose sleep over it.
I personally do like Pete, and don't like the stripes, but just don't do something stupid like a red field etc.
Block well, tackle well and we'll forget the turf!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Wick250 on June 29, 2020, 10:58:01 PM
The WFMJ twitter site has a picture of the "correct" new turf that has just been installed.  The color difference is subtle and looks, to me at least, vastly superior. 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on June 30, 2020, 08:52:27 AM
Any season tickets envelopes arrive? Get ready for a huge battle, as you know the media will push for football cancellation in order to sway the national election.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 30, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
The WFMJ twitter site has a picture of the "correct" new turf that has just been installed.  The color difference is subtle and looks, to me at least, vastly superior.
I acknowledge I am among the world's lamest social media guys, that being said, I can't find a picture of the YSU field on WFMJ twitter anywhere!  FOUND IT!  Looks like crap, but win baby, win and we won't notice!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on June 30, 2020, 09:27:08 AM
Any season tickets envelopes arrive? Get ready for a huge battle, as you know the media will push for football cancellation in order to sway the national election.
My buckeye friend told me last night, he's sent in his $1,700 and they cashed his check and haven't said a word about whether or not there will be a game, of if there is, can he go?  (I pay something less that $1,700 for Penguin club and seats!)  That being said, IMO no news from YSU is bad news.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Wick250 on June 30, 2020, 12:18:33 PM
IAA Fan,

My ticket renewal letter arrived today.  The deadline for payment is August 12, and I am going to wait near that date to renew.  FCS football without fans: unlikely.  FCS football with fans: very unlikely.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: peteonastick on July 01, 2020, 06:07:18 PM
Got our letter today. What does the seats mean for the Football Parking mean?  Ours says 239-240. Are they assigning spaces for parking in the tailgate lot? 
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on July 02, 2020, 12:14:36 PM
I received the tailgate letter as well and agree that they might be reserved, but it could also be the software they use. I have not received ticket renewal yet & it is not in with the tailgate pass purchase. I wil see what come this afternoon.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Double ET on July 02, 2020, 12:27:05 PM
I received my season ticket renewal notice letter yesterday. It also listed 3 options of refund in case all the games  or specific games are canceled.
I plan not to renew my seats. I rather purchase individual game tickets so I could sit away from the crowds (section 1 or 7) because I am in the old age at risk group.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: goodnews on July 17, 2020, 10:29:48 AM
Where are pics of the new turf? I suppose the SID is overwhelmed with other responsibilities?
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 17, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
Where are pics of the new turf? I suppose the SID is overwhelmed with other responsibilities?


Pete is on the 50
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: IAA Fan on July 18, 2020, 02:01:39 PM
Where are pics of the new turf? I suppose the SID is overwhelmed with other responsibilities?


Pete is on the 50

To me that is Good news Chief!!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on July 20, 2020, 09:31:09 AM
Where are pics of the new turf? I suppose the SID is overwhelmed with other responsibilities?


Pete is on the 50

To me that is Good news Chief!!
ME TOO!  FEAR THE PENGUIN!!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 24, 2020, 10:58:36 PM
Here is a picture of the new turf. Not too much difference besides the black border now going all the way around.

https://twitter.com/CoachNardo27/status/1286628551240888320?s=20
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: Kandrase on July 25, 2020, 03:23:28 PM
Here is a picture of the new turf. Not too much difference besides the black border now going all the way around.

https://twitter.com/CoachNardo27/status/1286628551240888320?s=20

Also noticed it says “Beede” field in the upper right portion from the photo you linked, I like that.
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on July 27, 2020, 09:07:33 AM
Here is a picture of the new turf. Not too much difference besides the black border now going all the way around.

https://twitter.com/CoachNardo27/status/1286628551240888320?s=20

Also noticed it says “Beede” field in the upper right portion from the photo you linked, I like that.
Thanks Chief.  I agree on the nod to "Beede Field" and the border gives it a more finished look.  (and I like Pete!)   
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 29, 2020, 06:16:10 PM
Malick Mdobj has grad transferred in from Cincinnati. 6-5, 210 WR
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: go guins on July 30, 2020, 08:46:26 AM
Malick Mdobj has grad transferred in from Cincinnati. 6-5, 210 WR
This kid's highlights look good, and we love having him, BUT doesn't DP know any OL that want to transfer to get some playing time?   We could have Randy Moss and Chris Carter at WR, but if our QB in laying on his back with a DE laying on top, it won't matter a lick!
Title: Re: 2020 Football Season
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 08, 2020, 12:42:27 PM
Allen Stritzinger, a 6-0 DB has grad transferred in from Syracuse.