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Title: The public has reached high levels of ... with cancellations
Post by: penguinpower on March 12, 2020, 07:59:55 PM
The response to the virus outbreak is so ridiculous it is maddening. Let's cancel all college sports and cla$$es. 
let's see, 80% of people have minor symptoms.  Corona is a common cold virus.  The remaining 20% may require some treatment but not hospitalization.  The elderly are at risk and will likely require it. the average age of death is 80 so they need to keep those people away.

The virus is not expected to overrun the healthcare system unless some of the retards abuse it.

WTF is this world coming to?
Buy more toilet paper ******* morons..
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: pen4life on March 16, 2020, 08:21:48 PM
I personally invite you to lick the door handle at your nearest ER.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: YSUinBoston on April 08, 2020, 06:21:52 AM
This aged well
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: penguinpower on April 08, 2020, 07:29:22 AM
Before I have to correct the retards on the board let me begin by stating the facts.  The seasonal flu death rate iin the US is higher than the Coronavirus death rates based on the statistics available as of April 6th.

That being said, from April 2009 to April 2010 60.8 million Americans contracted the H1N1 flu. 274,000 were hospitalized, 12,500 died.  It was not  a crisis until 1,000 people died in October of that year. The government was unprepared and did not have the vaccinations made despite having a vaccination in place. There was no panic and we did not shut down the economy.  As of this morning there have been 12,857 deaths. Here is the backup: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

There are a few things that I was unaware of that are major factors in this issue and it has made a big difference in why we have to have this bullsh** quarantine. 

#1 hospital consolidation over the last 10 years has taken away the capacity to handle higher patient loads.
Hospital consolidation rationalization can be found here as a good high level overview.

https://pnhp.org/news/hospital-consolidation-and-the-affordable-care-act/

#2 We no longer make our own drugs and have little control of the Supply chain. Even if we wanted to get the drugs at this point we cannot get them because China is using them on it's own citizens. 

#3. We don't make our own PPE to protect healthcare workers and citizens. 

Now that that has been said, let's talk about the death rates. 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

The worst death rate is in NY at 28 per 100,000 people which is a death rate of 0.028%. The seasonal flu has a death rate of 0.11%  Whic one is worse?  The f***ing flu is worse.  This disease is just more contagious so it has a better reach into society.

Here is the data from the CDC on the Flu. 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

However, we are going to shut down the economy a d possibly cause a depression over this virus. This thing is already worse than the 2008 economic crisis and it was self induced.  Totally unacceptable to me.  They need to get the economy back up and running.  This 2 week event is going to kill more people due to economic outcomes than it will from the flu itself. It is f***ing ridiculous and retarded.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on April 08, 2020, 08:31:47 AM
 Penguinpower you are ignorant.  A healthy 53 year old man died this week in Poland.  Even with social distancing as many as 100,000 people likely will die.  Then it won't be over until there is a vaccine or cure.

 You can't put thousands of people in a stadium to watch a game, that is insanity with a virus that spreads like this one.   In the big picture, college football is meaningless.  Even if they play football, there will be no fans in the stadium.

 
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: penguinpower on April 08, 2020, 09:14:34 AM
Penguinpower you are ignorant.  A healthy 53 year old man died this week in Poland.  Even with social distancing as many as 100,000 people likely will die.  Then it won't be over until there is a vaccine or cure.

 You can't put thousands of people in a stadium to watch a game, that is insanity with a virus that spreads like this one.   In the big picture, college football is meaningless.  Even if they play football, there will be no fans in the stadium.



You and I don't know the herd immunity. There are places in Italy that are showing 70% of the population is immune when getting blood donations.  Yes it is sad but the bottom line is that if people lose thier jobs and their healthcare then the economic impacts could be responsible for more deaths. This is not going to be a V-shaped recovery. It is going to be an L-shaped recovery and we can only hope for a U-shaped outcome.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: penguinpower on April 08, 2020, 10:09:42 AM
The University of Washington just revised the death projections to 60,000 people in the US and it will likey spread to more people than the flu.

Again we don't know the herd immunity numbers and won't have it until the anitbody tests reveal what it looks like.  It may be higher than eveyone thinks considering the virus was being seeded here as early as October and November of 2019.  The elderly are at risk and therefore protections for those people need to be put in place, but shutting down the economy for less than 1% of the people is crazy to me. 
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on April 08, 2020, 01:38:47 PM
  The Univ Of Washington projection is if the entire nation practices social distancing through at least May.  if it were not for social distancing that figure would be at least 10 times higher than the 60,000.

 So if the country were to return to normal, at minimum, and this is a low projection, there would be 600,000 deaths from this virus.   That is more than a common cold.  Yet some think we should fill up Ohio Stadium in September with 100,000 fans. 
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: mudclods on April 08, 2020, 10:31:13 PM
  The Univ Of Washington projection is if the entire nation practices social distancing through at least May.  if it were not for social distancing that figure would be at least 10 times higher than the 60,000.

 So if the country were to return to normal, at minimum, and this is a low projection, there would be 600,000 deaths from this virus.   That is more than a common cold.  Yet some think we should fill up Ohio Stadium in September with 100,000 fans.

It was 100,000-240,000 with the mitigation efforts then dropped to 80 some thousand  & now it's down to 60,000.

DeWine said last month 100,000 people had it in Ohio.  Nearly a month later it just went over 5,000. He said during the peak would be 10,000 new cases per day now the prediction is down to 1,600. Keep in mind the other numbers were with mitigation  and social distancing not without.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: The YO Show on April 08, 2020, 10:36:15 PM
Before I have to correct the retards on the board let me begin by stating the facts.  The seasonal flu death rate iin the US is higher than the Coronavirus death rates based on the statistics available as of April 6th.

That being said, from April 2009 to April 2010 60.8 million Americans contracted the H1N1 flu. 274,000 were hospitalized, 12,500 died.  It was not  a crisis until 1,000 people died in October of that year. The government was unprepared and did not have the vaccinations made despite having a vaccination in place. There was no panic and we did not shut down the economy.  As of this morning there have been 12,857 deaths. Here is the backup: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

There are a few things that I was unaware of that are major factors in this issue and it has made a big difference in why we have to have this bullsh** quarantine. 

#1 hospital consolidation over the last 10 years has taken away the capacity to handle higher patient loads.
Hospital consolidation rationalization can be found here as a good high level overview.

https://pnhp.org/news/hospital-consolidation-and-the-affordable-care-act/

#2 We no longer make our own drugs and have little control of the Supply chain. Even if we wanted to get the drugs at this point we cannot get them because China is using them on it's own citizens. 

#3. We don't make our own PPE to protect healthcare workers and citizens. 

Now that that has been said, let's talk about the death rates. 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

The worst death rate is in NY at 28 per 100,000 people which is a death rate of 0.028%. The seasonal flu has a death rate of 0.11%  Whic one is worse?  The ******* flu is worse.  This disease is just more contagious so it has a better reach into society.

Here is the data from the CDC on the Flu. 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

However, we are going to shut down the economy a d possibly cause a depression over this virus. This thing is already worse than the 2008 economic crisis and it was self induced.  Totally unacceptable to me.  They need to get the economy back up and running.  This 2 week event is going to kill more people due to economic outcomes than it will from the flu itself. It is ******* ridiculous and retarded.

Going off of CDC death rate information for the state of NY from 2018 (most recent year CDC has with data) for full year 2018 NY was at 18.4 deaths per 100,000 people for the flu. Source below.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm

You have just provided evidence that NY death rate is 28 per 100,000 so far for COVID19.

Would that not suggest that this is more deadly than the flu?
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: BigDWSU on April 08, 2020, 10:37:36 PM
It was 100,000-240,000 with the mitigation efforts then dropped to 80 some thousand  & now it's down to 60,000.

DeWine said last month 100,000 people had it in Ohio.  Nearly a month later it just went over 5,000. He said during the peak would be 10,000 new cases per day now the prediction is down to 1,600. Keep in mind the other numbers were with mitigation  and social distancing not without.

The problem is they aren't doing ma$$ testing yet.  There might be 100-200K that have it in Ohio but no one knows because they haven't been tested for it.   Those asymptomatic people are the problem because they are carriers and don't know it and when the stay at home order stops they will be going out and infecting people unaware that they are hurting others.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: penguinpower on April 08, 2020, 10:58:44 PM
Before I have to correct the retards on the board let me begin by stating the facts.  The seasonal flu death rate iin the US is higher than the Coronavirus death rates based on the statistics available as of April 6th.

That being said, from April 2009 to April 2010 60.8 million Americans contracted the H1N1 flu. 274,000 were hospitalized, 12,500 died.  It was not  a crisis until 1,000 people died in October of that year. The government was unprepared and did not have the vaccinations made despite having a vaccination in place. There was no panic and we did not shut down the economy.  As of this morning there have been 12,857 deaths. Here is the backup: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

There are a few things that I was unaware of that are major factors in this issue and it has made a big difference in why we have to have this bullsh** quarantine. 

#1 hospital consolidation over the last 10 years has taken away the capacity to handle higher patient loads.
Hospital consolidation rationalization can be found here as a good high level overview.

https://pnhp.org/news/hospital-consolidation-and-the-affordable-care-act/

#2 We no longer make our own drugs and have little control of the Supply chain. Even if we wanted to get the drugs at this point we cannot get them because China is using them on it's own citizens. 

#3. We don't make our own PPE to protect healthcare workers and citizens. 

Now that that has been said, let's talk about the death rates. 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

The worst death rate is in NY at 28 per 100,000 people which is a death rate of 0.028%. The seasonal flu has a death rate of 0.11%  Whic one is worse?  The ******* flu is worse.  This disease is just more contagious so it has a better reach into society.

Here is the data from the CDC on the Flu. 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

However, we are going to shut down the economy a d possibly cause a depression over this virus. This thing is already worse than the 2008 economic crisis and it was self induced.  Totally unacceptable to me.  They need to get the economy back up and running.  This 2 week event is going to kill more people due to economic outcomes than it will from the flu itself. It is ******* ridiculous and retarded.

Going off of CDC death rate information for the state of NY from 2018 (most recent year CDC has with data) for full year 2018 NY was at 18.4 deaths per 100,000 people for the flu. Source below.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm

You have just provided evidence that NY death rate is 28 per 100,000 so far for COVID19.

Would that not suggest that this is more deadly than the flu?

Not if the historical flu death rate is 0.11%.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: IAA Fan on April 09, 2020, 08:33:41 AM
Try not to the word "retard" against those that are misguided, ignorant, or may share an opinion different than our own. Retardation refers to those that have MR (mental retardation). In fact I am not that certain that "MR" is "PC" anymore.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: HappyPenguin on April 09, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
Quote

Going off of CDC death rate information for the state of NY from 2018 (most recent year CDC has with data) for full year 2018 NY was at 18.4 deaths per 100,000 people for the flu. Source below.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm

You have just provided evidence that NY death rate is 28 per 100,000 so far for COVID19.

Would that not suggest that this is more deadly than the flu?

Yes it does. But if he wants to die on this hill rather than be proven wrong, let him.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: go guins on April 09, 2020, 03:51:19 PM
This aged well
Boy, it sure didnít did it? 
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: penguinpower on April 11, 2020, 09:21:34 AM
This aged well
Boy, it sure didnít did it?


Read this simpletons.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/

Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of retardation with cancellations
Post by: HappyPenguin on April 11, 2020, 01:42:24 PM
This aged well
Boy, it sure didnít did it?


Read this simpletons.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/

One minor difference. Sweden's government listens to medical experts and relays their suggestions with a single, clear directive. Ours ignores their advice and tells people to do things like seek out the malaria, lupus and arthritis drug hydroxychloroquine, despite no clinical trial indicating its effectiveness in combating COVID-19.

Did we go overboard by isolating everyone instead of those in the high at-risk categories? Probably so. We missed the boat on having a national plan so state governors did their own thing, erring on the side of caution.

I live in a beach town, and I sure am seeing a LOT of elderly, out-of-state tourists who are ignoring the government and medical communities advice to self-isolate AT HOME. I wonder if that can be said for the ones Sweden has asked to stay put? I would bet not.

There's a lot to be said for common sense and a unified message. We have what, 5 states STILL without any social distancing restrictions?

Don't be shocked if are doing this again in the fall.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of ... with cancellations
Post by: IAA Fan on April 13, 2020, 02:20:16 PM
There is no worthwhile president that would instill national restrictions in a state. The last time I checked, the unemployment Bureau is a State Office.The law suits would last until the next century (as I feel they should in that case). The US supreme court is always going to rule in favor of state's rights when it come to employment matters. SO don't blame the president. I do not care for the guy, but he has done much better that I ever thought he could possibly do with this. He has given the states broad powers and gave them financial backing.

As far as Covid-19 coming back, of course it will. It will be mutated by then and any covid-19 vaccine might be useless; but it could reduce the severity of any "Covid-20+".

As to the economic side of this, the Federal Government does not have the resources to put anything in place in every state. Also the congressional arguments as to when the restrictions should be lifted would never end. The VP has been fantastic in his communications with the various state offices and Ohio has been terrific. Going to be lots of idiotic law suits against the Ohio Governor's offices and the state DOH, but the president will back them. This is what was planned all along.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of ... with cancellations
Post by: pen4life on June 19, 2020, 11:14:30 PM
116000 + dead in the US alone. I guess all the trained epidemiologists on this site were off a bit in their predictions.
Title: Re: The public has reached high levels of ... with cancellations
Post by: pen4life on June 19, 2020, 11:31:41 PM
Hey heres one fot the simpltons latest figures USA deaths per 100K  30, Sweden deaths per 100K 40. ! ENGAGE BRAIN THEN AND ONLY THEN ENGAGE MOUTH.