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Title: Doug Phillips
Post by: peteonastick on February 06, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Doug Phillips. Next head coach.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUGO on February 06, 2020, 08:07:29 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: The YO Show on February 06, 2020, 08:35:21 PM
What is going on? What changed between yesterday and today?
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: peteonastick on February 06, 2020, 08:44:51 PM
What I heard was that it was between Tyrrell and Phillips with the trustees.  They told Tress to make the decision and lets just say that $$$$$$$$ backed Phillips. 

Doug Phillips joined the University of Cincinnati football staff in January 2017. He coached tight ends and served as UC’s special teams coordinator in 2017 before shifting to his current role as running backs coach in 2018.
 
The Youngstown, Ohio native and former high school head coach has nearly 25 years of football coaching experience, including six seasons at the NCAA FBS and FCS level and has coached in three national championship games.
 
Phillips returned to an on-field coaching role with the Bearcats after spending the 2016 season at Iowa State as the director of player personnel.
 
He was a high school administrator from 2008-15, serving as a principal and superintendent, most recently as the superintendent at West Branch Local Schools in Beloit, Ohio. Phillips was also an assistant principal and principal for the Dickson County school district in Dickson, Tenn., and principal at Dalton Local Schools (outside of Canton, Ohio) from 2009-12.
 
He coached the defensive ends and served as Bowling Green’s recruiting coordinator from 2007-08, helping the Falcons share the 2007 MAC East title and earn a bowl bid.
 
Phillips helped coach Diyral Briggs, from Mount Healthy HS, to his second consecutive first-team All-Mid-American Conference honor in 2008. Briggs finished the year with 9.5 sacks, most in the conference. Briggs also set career-highs in tackles for loss with 13.5. In two years under Phillips Briggs recorded 14.5 sacks, second-highest in the league during that span.
 
Phillips joined the Falcons staff after spending the 2006 season as the defensive quality control coach at Ohio State working with UC Head Coach Luke Fickell. He was part of a staff which won the Big Ten championship and played in the BCS title game. The Buckeyes were fifth in the country in scoring defense that season. On the field, he assisted with the Buckeye linebackers which included All-American and Bronko Nagurski Trophy winner James Laurinaitis.
 
He worked and coached for 15 years at the high school level, including nine as a head coach. A native of New Middletown, Ohio, Phillips served as head football coach at Springfield Local HS (1997-2000) and Salem HS in Salem, Ohio (2001-05), turning around both programs.
 
Phillips led his high school alma mater, Springfield Local, to back-to-back state playoff appearances. His 1999 team won the first of consecutive league championships and made the first of two playoff appearances, while his 2000 squad went undefeated in the regular season and returned to the postseason, where it to the state quarterfinals. After four years at Springfield Local (1997-2000) Phillips moved onto Salem High School, where he spent five seasons (2001-05) and guided his teams to better records every season, culminating with a league runner-up finish in 2005. In addition, he guided the school to consecutive winning records in 2004 and 2005, a feat that was accomplished for the first time in 30 years at the school.
 
Phillips received his start in college football from 1991-92 at Youngstown State with Jim Tressel. He coached tight ends, defensive backs and running backs/kickers during his stay. Under Tressel, Phillips coached in three national championship games including 2006 at OSU and in 1992 and 1991 at YSU. The Penguins won the NCAA FCS title in 1991.
 
While an undergraduate student at Toledo, Phillips got his coaching career started at Toledo St. Francis DeSales and Sylvania Northview. After earning a bachelor’s degree in education from UT in 1991, he received a master’s degree in educational administration from Youngstown State in 1995.
 
PERSONAL INFORMATION
Born: February 29, 1968
Hometown: New Middletown, Ohio
Education: Toledo (1991, B.S.); Youngstown State (1995, M.S.)
Year in Coaching: 24th
 
COACHING CAREER
YEAR: SCHOOL - POSITION
1991-92: Youngstown State - Graduate Assistant
1997-2000: Springfield Local HS - Head Coach
2001-05: Salem HS - Head Coach
2006: Ohio State - Quality Control (Defense)
2007-08: Bowling Green - DE/Recruiting Coord.
2016: Iowa State - Director of Player Personnel
2017: Cincinnati - Special Teams Coordinator/Tight Ends
2018-: Cincinnati - Running Backs

BOWLS COACHED IN
YEAR: SCHOOL - BOWL
1991: Youngstown State (FCS Playoffs/NCAA FB Championship)
1992: Youngstown State (FCS Playoffs/NCAA FB Championship)
2006: Ohio State (BCS National Championship)
2008: Bowling Green - Humanitarian
2018: Cincinnati - Military
2019: Cincinnati - Birmingham
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 06, 2020, 08:55:21 PM
Resume = unimpressive
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 06, 2020, 09:02:19 PM
Well, what a dumpster fire this has become. The usual.

Tyrrell was going to be the choice but from what I can gather, he wanted more money, especially to bring in certain assistants that would've cost more. Certain people in charge did not like that idea trying to go the cheapest route possible.

Phillips is a Youngstown boy and another close guy to JT and will be the new coach.

Nothing like going from a HS coach to a guy who was superintendent of West Branch schools for several years. Yikes.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 06, 2020, 09:07:34 PM
Typical youngstown mentality. Man oh man.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUGO on February 06, 2020, 09:12:09 PM
So much for a national search!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 06, 2020, 09:14:02 PM
Careful what u wish for.  In a days time it went from questionable to BAD.  Sad to say but its curtains for a once proud football program. Just when u thk it cant get any worse.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Wick250 on February 06, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
So we refuse to allow an extraordinarily successful high school coach to have enough funds to build a competent staff.  Then we select a character whose only head coaching experience was at two "nothing" high school programs.  This is sickening beyond belief.  But cheer up.  We still lead all mid-majors in paying for perfectly worthless assistant athletic directors.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 06, 2020, 09:20:25 PM
Paladin is getting the popcorn ready..wow just wow!!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: peteonastick on February 06, 2020, 09:24:15 PM
The key years are the Salem years...read between the lines...big money from a certain person from Salem and BGSU backed him. 


COACHING CAREER
YEAR: SCHOOL - POSITION
1991-92: Youngstown State - Graduate Assistant
1997-2000: Springfield Local HS - Head Coach
2001-05: Salem HS - Head Coach
2006: Ohio State - Quality Control (Defense)
2007-08: Bowling Green - DE/Recruiting Coord.
2016: Iowa State - Director of Player Personnel
2017: Cincinnati - Special Teams Coordinator/Tight Ends
2018-: Cincinnati - Running Backs
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: peteonastick on February 06, 2020, 09:31:35 PM
It's official...hit the news..
https://www.wkbn.com/sports/ysu-to-name-doug-phillips-next-head-football-coach/

Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 06, 2020, 10:10:36 PM
This guy has less experience then Paul Christ.  Something is terribly wrong at YSU.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUGO on February 06, 2020, 10:13:31 PM
I agree, He makes Tyrrell look like Urban Meyer!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 06, 2020, 10:19:00 PM
All 1 year stints with bullshit positions.. Hopefully his salary is NO more than $125k.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 06, 2020, 10:44:50 PM
Bob Sebo bought Phillips the job.  This was all Tressel decision.  Don’t like it at all.  Phillips is bland and has done nothing to deserve the job.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YsuPride on February 06, 2020, 10:53:35 PM
Better than Shane
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 06, 2020, 11:05:33 PM
Looking at his Twitter page he has done nothing but boost the Cincinnati program the last few days including today. Did the team actually meet with the Hoban coach last night and was this whole thing with Phillips put together today in just a few short hours?
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 06, 2020, 11:22:26 PM
If he bought him the job what was the price?
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Wick250 on February 06, 2020, 11:38:29 PM
So attendance is way down.  Interest is dropping to about the level of basketball.  And this nonentity is going to be the charismatic leader that returns the program to national prominence?  This "hire" will generate about as much community enthusiasm as the selection of a new soccer or volleyball coach.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 06, 2020, 11:52:52 PM
He'll last 3 years and D'Alesio will be next head coach.  Mark my words!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 07, 2020, 12:30:43 AM
OMG. I listened to an interview with this guy from UC recruiting and I couldnt believe what I was watching. 

Also' it appears that Tom Phillips from Stow may be his brother.  We may have a high school coach on staff after all.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: penguinpower on February 07, 2020, 07:09:33 AM
We all knew we can only afford to pay 15 assistant athletic directors and add more costs through bowling and some other sport I don't remember and will never watch........so what did you all expect?

With D'Alesio as a key defensive coach, all I can say is if you think we would make a splash hire you were wrong. There is no money and the money that exists has even greater influence on the outcome.  Blame the state of affairs on Strollo not holding people accountable, hiring too many AD's and using the money that SHOULD be used in the only sport that matters on other bulsh!t that nobody cares about.

Now we are in a high stakes gambling game with a bad hand, but still have a chance.

There are many ways to look at this hire as bad.  I've seen many of the remarks. No experience, no HC experience, worked as a principal, a local guy etc.  I get it and I agree.

But I challenge everyone to take a little different view on this. The guy should know what winning looks like. He's been a part of a lot of winning teams as a coach (player?).  Secondly, it takes a certain level of sophistication to be a principal/superintendent etc at a school.  As a HC, that is a very important aspect that could be used to deliver success. It is also the same type of sophistication that made Tressel a better FB coach and gives him the capability to run a University as president. I see some parallels there. It so appears that the guy either likes co as coaching or the money associated with coaching because he left his admin job to get into a job that is a grind. He also knows the area and the people in the area.

It is a creative hire.  He may be a good hire.  I give him a punchers chance.  But how does he win without resources?


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Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: nova75 on February 07, 2020, 07:57:57 AM
The financial constraints are self-imposed. If it was important they would find the money to compete. Keep funding at a D2 level and that what you’ll become. Most of the programs perform at that level already.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Wick250 on February 07, 2020, 08:32:41 AM
Power,

Thanks for the post.  It reduced my anger and made me look at this more objectively.  Administrative expertise is indeed essential for a head coach.  I just hope we have the resources to assemble a respectable staff that Phillips can manage.

Also, Crenshaw's high school stats were in the paper this morning.  74% completion rate as a senior.  14 for 16 in the 2019 title game.  Six rushing tds in the 2017 title game.  All of that against fierce competition in Ohio's DI.  Not a bad building block for a new coach.  We all know the impact an elite qb can have at our level.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 07, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
I simply don't understand the overwhelming negativity of the posters on the thread.  How in God's name to you make the statement that Phillips makes Tyrrell look like Urban Meyer in comparison?  Just YESTERDAY Tyrrell was the guy with no college experience and this was a disaster?  You guys make me laugh.  If Phillips knows football and relates to kids on the field, and parents in recruiting, he'll be fine.  Remember the best football mind EVER at YSU picked the guy, and that gets him the benefit of the doubt with me.  In 3 years we can review this decision, but before that is premature. 
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 07, 2020, 09:02:03 AM
  Was blindsided by this one.   I was all in on Tyrrell, he had head coaching experience and was a winner.  Doug Phillips has done nothing to deserve this job.   The job was certainly bought for him.  Very disappointed in Tressel, this was all his decision.

I hope Phillips proves me wrong, and I will support him and the program.  But I can't see it, also from what I remember while coaching high school, sorta boring and nerdy.  I don't see him exciting the fan base.

Yes Tressel a great football mind, but he was the one who hired John Robic, although the committee he put together had Robic near the bottom of the candidate list.  Robic was a bust and he got the job because Larry Brown and John Calipari bought him that job.  That is a fact.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: gbs20 on February 07, 2020, 09:32:34 AM
When did Sebo become a player at YSU? He had no interest previously. As I said previously re Tyrell...if this works out--great; but if not its on Tressel. You all are overestimating how well he is running the university.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: peteonastick on February 07, 2020, 09:46:32 AM
When did Sebo become a player at YSU? He had no interest previously. As I said previously re Tyrell...if this works out--great; but if not its on Tressel. You all are overestimating how well he is running the university.

He became a player this week when Tress was in Florida with him and called Strollo to cancel the team meeting with Tyrrell. Going in a different direction. $$$$$$.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 07, 2020, 10:05:47 AM
Pete you are correct.  Just heard that Tressel who has been in Florida since last Saturday has been staying with Sebo at his home.   That he and his wife Ellen are there with Sebo and his wife.  This smells really bad.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 07, 2020, 10:41:45 AM
Pete you are correct.  Just heard that Tressel who has been in Florida since last Saturday has been staying with Sebo at his home.   That he and his wife Ellen are there with Sebo and his wife.  This smells really bad.
How in the world does this "smell bad"?  You guys watch to much MSNBC conspiracy stories.  I am certainly NOT saying JT didn't influenced this choice, but BS DIDN'T pay him to pick Phillips!  You guys are weak Oliver Stone wannabes!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysubigred on February 07, 2020, 10:42:28 AM
My two cents for what it's worth (no dog in the fight) just a casual fan.

MoRon and JT are going the cheap route to coaching until Donald D'Alesio is done learning the ropes in his "unpaid" stint with BO at LSU. He'll come back as HC and they'll rename Stambaugh to D'Alesio.

Sadly JT seems to be going off the deep end  with the good ole boy system :'(
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Kandrase on February 07, 2020, 11:11:07 AM
My two cents for what it's worth (no dog in the fight) just a casual fan.

MoRon and JT are going the cheap route to coaching until Donald D'Alesio is done learning the ropes in his "unpaid" stint with BO at LSU. He'll come back as HC and they'll rename Stambaugh to D'Alesio.

Sadly JT seems to be going off the deep end  with the good ole boy system :'(

Who said Dalesio’s job at LSU was unpaid?
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysubigred on February 07, 2020, 11:34:05 AM
My two cents for what it's worth (no dog in the fight) just a casual fan.

MoRon and JT are going the cheap route to coaching until Donald D'Alesio is done learning the ropes in his "unpaid" stint with BO at LSU. He'll come back as HC and they'll rename Stambaugh to D'Alesio.

Sadly JT seems to be going off the deep end  with the good ole boy system :'(

Who said Dalesio’s job at LSU was unpaid?

Sorry I skimmed the article and thought I seen a comment about an unpaid position.


https://footballscoop.com/the-scoop-...bruary-2-2020/ (https://footballscoop.com/the-scoop-...bruary-2-2020/)
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: peteonastick on February 07, 2020, 12:32:38 PM
Pete you are correct.  Just heard that Tressel who has been in Florida since last Saturday has been staying with Sebo at his home.   That he and his wife Ellen are there with Sebo and his wife.  This smells really bad.
How in the world does this "smell bad"?  You guys watch to much MSNBC conspiracy stories.  I am certainly NOT saying JT didn't influenced this choice, but BS DIDN'T pay him to pick Phillips!  You guys are weak Oliver Stone wannabes!

I don't have a dog in the fight either...just relaying how it all went down when Tyrrell was in and then out so fast.  Money talks... BS walks...we complain all the time on how much money NDSU has...well that comes from oil money donations from boosters...we finally get one and people complain...take the money...let's face it...it is all recruiting and assistant coaches in college football.  Until I see that, I won't pass judgement.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Northcoast Penguin on February 07, 2020, 12:48:21 PM
I don't know which is more entertaining.  Reading these post or the Impeachment Sham.  Three (3) coaches have been shamed, the facts from a "good source" were false, claims of JT buying this coach while in Florida without facts and having your minds already made up that the newly hired coach is a bad choice before his hiring is announced AND before he is introduced to anyone.

It is what it is.  The program had regressed and everyone wants the 90's back again.  Not going to happen for some time.  Either support this guy and the program or stay home but stop the trashing the new coach.  He should be welcomed to the community and program by the fans and alumnus.  He has a difficult job as it is.  Totally surprised by these posts.  Been following YSU since the 80's.  Never have I seen anyone come down as hard on a coach as this one.  We all need to lighten up, support this guy and the University with this choice.

My rant is done!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 07, 2020, 01:52:31 PM
 Northcoast no sham, these are all facts:
1. Tressel left for Florida last Saturday, all week staying at the home of Bob Sebo who pushed hard for Doug Phillips. Sebo is making a significant gift to YSU.
2. Phillips was not in top three as of Wednesday night.  He did interview last weekend in Canton, and the committee did not make the cut.
3. Tressel stepped in and said we are hiring Phillips.
4. Phillips was out of football for seven years, most recently running backs coach at Cincinnati.  Never a coordinator.

Now this is opinion:  If Tressel was going to step in, he could have at least been part of the interview process in Canton and not vacationing in Florida.  Another opinion, Phillips in way over his head, this has disaster written all over it.

Also hearing staff will be mostly grad assistants and young guys from Cincinnati and Iowa State. We will see if this is accurate.  I am sure Phillips will hire his brother who is a high school coach at Stow.

I'm done til spring ball. 
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 07, 2020, 02:25:33 PM
Money talks and Sebo strikes, that's all I have to say.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 07, 2020, 02:31:10 PM
I hope its a SIGNIFICANT CHECK since YSU Football is now the PAWN.  He certainly has the $$$$ to make a difference.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSU1 on February 07, 2020, 02:48:32 PM
If YSU does not have the money to compete at this level, they should drop back to Division 2.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Kandrase on February 07, 2020, 04:33:31 PM
If YSU does not have the money to compete at this level, they should drop back to Division 2.

Come on guys let’s have some perspective. The MVFC is harder to compete in than the MAC. We have a very competitive FCS football team and are probably in the top quartile when it comes to the entire subdivision. Butler was an atrocity... but we usually do very well against non conference teams (Samford, Howard, Robert Morris, Duquesne etc.

We’re a competitive FCS program, just not elite like we want to be.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 07, 2020, 04:37:29 PM
We will find out on 9/5 if the MAC is easier.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: guinpen on February 07, 2020, 05:48:57 PM
This thread has taught me a couple of things.

1. Most folks on this board need better sources.
2. Way too many negative Nancy's.

As much as I hate to admit it, I no longer feel that we are on the same level as the mid MAc schools. A true YSU fan really only has one option at this point, trust that the powers to be know what they are doing and give the new coach a chance to prove himself. I believe that JT came to us as a lowly QB coach and look how he turned out, Let's all hope that Doug does better.
 
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Wick250 on February 07, 2020, 05:50:57 PM
This may or may not make you feel better, depending on your stance on this selection.

As everybody now knows, Phillips was a position coach at Cincinnati for the past three years.  Did you realize how highly rated Cincinnati football has been lately?  Here are the final ratings for this past season from a sample of polling services.

#21 AP
#21 Coaches
#21 Massey
#30 Sagarin

So we hired a position coach from a nearly top 20 ranked program (whether Cincy deserved that status is irrelevant....they have it.)  One week ago in the aftermath of the revelation about Marrow's salary, a FBS position coach at a successful program seemed out-of-bounds.

Take this for whatever you think it is worth.


Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 07, 2020, 06:28:31 PM
Wick, as the running backs coach at Cincinnati Phillips was a huge reason why Ethan Wright from Manchester flipped his verbal late and signed with the Bearcats. Phillips was also Targeting Jr. Marquael Parks from Orrville. Parks has some issues to work out, but if Phillips can some how bring him to Youngstown watch out!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: HappyPenguin on February 08, 2020, 10:27:32 AM
Stick was right, recruiting and assistants are WAY more important than this guys resume.

He needs to come in and manage the situation. He comes from a successful program in Cincy and was here when we were successful also. To me, that experience is valuable and useful.

Give him a chance. Do you think things were on the upswing before Bo left?

Like was stated before, he has a punchers chance to be a good one.

We've seen how hiring coordinators to be HC has gone. Hell we just had a 9 win a season HC from the Big 10 and he couldn't get it done here. Its about more than resumes.

All that being said, he isn't going to get more $$$ for assistants than Bo did unless this donor steps up to the plate. And if he doesn't, I don't expect the results to be there either.

Recruits and assistants guys, kind of a big deal lol.

Cincy and Iowa State have both been pretty darn good the past couple seasons we may just get some decent guys here, young guys that can relate to today's player and hopefully with the savvy to recruit those kids. You'll be surprised how much better we are when the recruiting improves no matter who is calling the shots. We did make the NC game with Wolf's guys and Bo calling the shots. He just couldn't replace those guys and we went right in the crapper. Bo was still the same guy, so what changed? Staff and players.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 08, 2020, 01:49:47 PM
He is hired and today 3 players from Stow have been offered where Doug's brother Tom is the head coach lol.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Kandrase on February 08, 2020, 02:12:09 PM
Watching the press conference and it sounds like this is Doug’s dream job. Great to hear his passion. As much as I think Bo wanted to do a good job I never quite felt like his heart was in it. YSU was always a step down not an end goal, Phillips seems genuinely excited to be here.

OMG he also just said “recruting is first and foremost!” I’m sold on the Phillips era!!!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: penguinpower on February 08, 2020, 06:51:44 PM
I saw the presser.  I like him.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: guinpen on February 08, 2020, 08:41:19 PM
just watched it, he handled himself well, time to get to work.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 09, 2020, 01:18:33 AM
D coordinator coming from John Carroll.  Peterson the O line coach and Grosetti the strength coach only holdovers from Pelini staff.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 09, 2020, 08:11:14 AM
https://jcusports.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/joe-schaefer/1426 Some information on D.C.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 09, 2020, 08:49:20 AM
I saw the presser.  I like him.
Probably the best I have felt about a coach in a long time. Most importantly I could see players wanting to come to YSU and play for him. Pelini has left him with major holes to fill,  thinking he can be successful with juco and transfers this offseason. Hopefully he can put a quality staff together and the team can head into spring practice on a high note. We have nothing to lose, but everything to gain here
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: The YO Show on February 09, 2020, 10:23:50 AM
If new D coordinator is going to be from John Carroll, does that mean Carl is getting the boot?
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Kandrase on February 09, 2020, 11:18:12 AM
https://jcusports.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/joe-schaefer/1426 Some information on D.C.

Looks like he worked with Phillips when they were both  at Iowa State. I like this pick, as someone who follows d3 I saw  JCU’s defense in person a few times and they had were really good for that level, saw them give Mount Union some difficulty a few times, with a really good dline.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Wick250 on February 09, 2020, 12:20:18 PM
On paper, it looks like Schaefer is a good selection within our price range.  Experience as a very successful  high school coach at an important program, D3 coordinator, and exposure to FBS football.  Also remember that at Iowa State he had the opportunity to learn defensive principles from Jon Heacock. 

Clearly, the university is making a clean break from the Pelinis. Peterson was a Tressel guy.  I assume that Phillips wants him and that he was not forced to retain him. Peterson is addressing the Curbstone Coaches organization tomorrow.  That could be interesting.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 09, 2020, 05:32:28 PM
Troy Rothenbuhler is the new OC
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 09, 2020, 06:48:57 PM
https://ekusports.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/troy-rothenbuhler/1194 Information on the offensive coordinator..as Wick pointed out earlier there are definitely connections here..I felt there was a reason Peterson was retained
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysupenguins14 on February 09, 2020, 07:23:01 PM
Excited for the energy that Coach Phillips is bringing to the program.  It's time for us to all get behind him and show our support!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: IAA Fan on February 09, 2020, 08:19:58 PM
Guess we are not going to get that national recruiting footprint that I was hoping for.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysuguins4 on February 09, 2020, 08:41:39 PM
I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.  You just never know how these hires are going to go.  I thought for sure that Bo would be a slam dunk.  He won 9 or 10 games each of his 7 seasons at one of the top 20 programs in the country, and yet he went 18-22 in MV conference play while with the Guins.  He also oversaw one of the most embarrassing losses in YSU football history.  It will be interesting.  Maybe he'll bring back the spring game.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 09, 2020, 08:46:52 PM
Strollo emphasized the committee was not solely looking for a coach with local ties, but it did help.

“I’m sure that’s kind of the perception that we’re looking for that,” he said. “We aren’t. We reached out on anyone that came across our table and could identify. When all things are equal, there’s a great advantage to have someone who has a local connection to high school coaches, has connection to the state of Ohio. There might be some candidates that we talk to that have similar resumes, but if their resumes were from California or Texas, it didn’t make sense to us.


Strollo is a clown. The last head coach to have not grown up in the Mahoning Valley was Tressel lol.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: penguinpower on February 09, 2020, 08:51:44 PM
Guess we are not going to get that national recruiting footprint that I was hoping for.


I dont think he was saying that. He was stating that NDSU and SDSU have a national footprint a.d up to this point we did not.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 09, 2020, 09:47:25 PM
Chief is right, Strollo is a clown.  YSU has a small time vision. 

But, Tressel 💯 hired Phillips.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: IAA Fan on February 10, 2020, 07:12:25 AM
I am just saying that I expected that we would go with less experience (and cost) at Head Coach and make up for it with a couple of solid coordinators (like when we had Carl and Shane). However, judging from the selections, everyone is Youngstown. NE Ohio has diminishing returns on HS ball. The best HS ball has been in SW Ohio for years now. Central Ohio is the only place where football is growing at the HS level.

NDSU and SDSU recruit mostly untapped resources and this is a major part of their success. NE Ohio is not untapped. In fact it used to be perhaps the most popular area in the mid-west for recruiting. The xDSU's are pulling the top athletes from their area ...we are not and never going to. We have to recruit more nationally, or at least in these other parts of Ohio. Coach Shane could recruit nationally, but he brought us the bottom 2/3 of the state. Coach Carl clearly had a national footprint and his name will bring local kids.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 10, 2020, 09:23:22 AM
All this talk about "national footprint"  Southern Ohio being the only place football is growing etc. is LOL funny.  I think St. Eds, Hoban, ST. Ignatius would beg to differ, and the 2019 champions were from all over the state.  The champions in 2018 were St. Edward (Division I), Archbishop Hoban (Division II), Kenston (Division III), Wyoming (Division IV), Orrville (Division V), Kirtland (Division VI) and McComb (Division VII) would also fly in the face of the Southern premise.  What you DO notice when looking at state champions is they repeat and repeat, which says the most important thing is NOT where they are from, but who is the coach.  THAT is what's important. Top talent goes Power 5, second line talent goes mid-majors and we get what's left.  Once in a while one slips through like Rivers, Reed, or maybe Crenshaw, but by in large we get third tier talent and so it comes to coaching.  Let's hope Phillips is the guy. 
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: IAA Fan on February 13, 2020, 07:42:48 AM
Go, it became clear when I saw his salary, that we were not going to go after an experienced group of coordinators and this is upsetting to me. This is what a mean by a national footprint. It is not as if YSU is a dominating team anymore and recognized by many players nationwide.

Also, this does not mean that I will not get behind our new staff, I am already there. It seems as though coach P is doing some homework and look how many mistakes coach Wolf made going after a nationally known experienced candidate at DC. Yet his regional hire at OC, turned out to be a sensational choice. It is becoming equally clear that JT is more involved at this point, he is a recognized commodity.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 13, 2020, 08:57:03 AM
Go, it became clear when I saw his salary, that we were not going to go after an experienced group of coordinators and this is upsetting to me. This is what a mean by a national footprint. It is not as if YSU is a dominating team anymore and recognized by many players nationwide.

Also, this does not mean that I will not get behind our new staff, I am already there. It seems as though coach P is doing some homework and look how many mistakes coach Wolf made going after a nationally known experienced candidate at DC. Yet his regional hire at OC, turned out to be a sensational choice. It is becoming equally clear that JT is more involved at this point, he is a recognized commodity.
We had no name coordinators paid peanuts in the 90's.  If the HC is "the guy", they he will develop coordinators or find coordinators that can coach, but don't yet have "big names".   Football, more than any other sport is all about the HC.  Let's all hope Phillips is "the guy!"
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysubigred on February 13, 2020, 09:02:05 AM
Go, it became clear when I saw his salary, that we were not going to go after an experienced group of coordinators and this is upsetting to me. This is what a mean by a national footprint. It is not as if YSU is a dominating team anymore and recognized by many players nationwide.

Also, this does not mean that I will not get behind our new staff, I am already there. It seems as though coach P is doing some homework and look how many mistakes coach Wolf made going after a nationally known experienced candidate at DC. Yet his regional hire at OC, turned out to be a sensational choice. It is becoming equally clear that JT is more involved at this point, he is a recognized commodity.

You're killing me Smalls! How do you figure that Wolfords OC was any better than the DC? I know you love Monty but face it he had a huge problem in the MVFC as all the coaches and assistance had since YSU entering the MVFC. Monty's O put up incredible numbers during the weenie schedule but when it came time for when it counted (MVFC schedule) the statistics fell drastically. JT was the only coach YSU had that did well in the MVFC which yielded ~ 97 NC, 99 Runner up NC, 2000 1st round loss to Richmond. Since JT Heacock's 06 run and out right MVFC championship ring was his glory. Wolford's 5 years zero zip nada! Bo 2016 run with Wolf's kids and a bit of JT magic was his glory.

Thanks for your attention!
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Wick250 on February 13, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
I was angry when we hired Phillips because rumors suggested that a wealthy donor had subverted the will of the committee.  It brought back terrible memories of the "Monus gang" and all the damage they did to the university.

Now as the facts become more clear, it looks like we were fortunate beyond all expectations.  Phillips was a position coach for a top 25 FBS program.  His coordinators (apparently, nothing official yet) have experience "as coordinators" on the D2, D3, or even FCS level.  Given monetary constraints, two weeks ago I did not believe any of this was possible.  There are no guarantees, but this was the logical move in the direction away from the Pelini debacle.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: gbs20 on February 13, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
Good post Wick250. I was here through the Monus debacle and shared the same fears. Its possible that Sebo tipped the scales but wealthy donors are influential at most universities for better and worse. What matters now is the outcome.  I was also here through the Tressel years and while I have issues with Tressel as president, I also saw the power of YSU football to unite the community in a positive way.  That may not be repeatable for a number of reasons at that scale, but restoring some part of the past can do nothing but help. Its clear that Pelini ran from developing the connection between the University and the community to the point that anger became apathy. At least when fans are angry they care. It will be difficult to develop interest from apathy but I hope he is successful.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 13, 2020, 01:59:08 PM
A couple things are true.  Bob Sebo has a ton of money.  JT and BS are friends.

EVERYTHING ELSE BEING THROW AROUND HERE IS SHIFTY ADAM SHIFF level of SPECULATION WITHOUT A SHRED OF ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING FACTUAL. 
Jim Tressel, Bob Sebo and ESPECIALLY Doug Phillips deserve better treatment.  You guys all call yourselves fans then "report" that since JT was as BS's house he must have "bought" the job for Doug Phillips with a donation!?!?!?!  You need FACTS to back up such a ridiculous claim!  I challenge ANYBODY on the "Sebo donation to influence the Phillips hiring" bandwagon to produce any evidence, and if not to apologize on this thread to JT, BS, and especially Coach Phillips.
This has been embarrassing and I find if completely unacceptable treatment to men I find admirable.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: IAA Fan on February 13, 2020, 02:37:29 PM
Go, it became clear when I saw his salary, that we were not going to go after an experienced group of coordinators and this is upsetting to me. This is what a mean by a national footprint. It is not as if YSU is a dominating team anymore and recognized by many players nationwide.

Also, this does not mean that I will not get behind our new staff, I am already there. It seems as though coach P is doing some homework and look how many mistakes coach Wolf made going after a nationally known experienced candidate at DC. Yet his regional hire at OC, turned out to be a sensational choice. It is becoming equally clear that JT is more involved at this point, he is a recognized commodity.

You're killing me Smalls! How do you figure that Wolfords OC was any better than the DC? I know you love Monty but face it he had a huge problem in the MVFC as all the coaches and assistance had since YSU entering the MVFC. Monty's O put up incredible numbers during the weenie schedule but when it came time for when it counted (MVFC schedule) the statistics fell drastically. JT was the only coach YSU had that did well in the MVFC which yielded ~ 97 NC, 99 Runner up NC, 2000 1st round loss to Richmond. Since JT Heacock's 06 run and out right MVFC championship ring was his glory. Wolford's 5 years zero zip nada! Bo 2016 run with Wolf's kids and a bit of JT magic was his glory.

Thanks for your attention!

Red: You are just continuing on with your "hatefest". Anyone with any brains only has to look at coach M's record. The point that I am making is that I thought we may go more national with the assistants and did not. I am showing how the big name hire out of Florida was a big bust, while the Ohio guy proved to be very successful. I am hoping we will see the same this time around.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on February 13, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
  We all hope, or at least most of are rooting for Phillips to win.  But come on, Tressel is not beyond shady dealings.

Phillips was 5th out of 7 when the committee interviewed.  It was tim Tyrrell's job, Don Treadwell next, then Shane Montgomery.

Tressel and Sebo together in Florida, Sebo writes the check.  Tressel makes the hire.  It's over now, let's hope Tressel made the right call.  Yes, I am skeptical and think a running backs coach from Cincinnati, who was out of football for 7 years is going to struggle.

 Phillips I think is average, we need more than average to turn this ship around.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: goodnews on February 13, 2020, 03:34:46 PM
Phillips Talks-the Talk...… time will tell if he can Walk-the-Walk..... Posting on Twitter pics of National Title trophies.  The fact is its irrelevant nearly 25 years ago.  Yes there is championship history but these coaches need to make their own history.  Its all getting OLD.  The last 3 coaches come in with the same MESSAGE to get the job.  We are Youngstown, We are tough, We a full of history, blah blah blah. SHOW ME DONT TELL ME. Its a broken record at this point and these clowns fall for it each time.

Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysubigred on February 13, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
Go, it became clear when I saw his salary, that we were not going to go after an experienced group of coordinators and this is upsetting to me. This is what a mean by a national footprint. It is not as if YSU is a dominating team anymore and recognized by many players nationwide.

Also, this does not mean that I will not get behind our new staff, I am already there. It seems as though coach P is doing some homework and look how many mistakes coach Wolf made going after a nationally known experienced candidate at DC. Yet his regional hire at OC, turned out to be a sensational choice. It is becoming equally clear that JT is more involved at this point, he is a recognized commodity.

You're killing me Smalls! How do you figure that Wolfords OC was any better than the DC? I know you love Monty but face it he had a huge problem in the MVFC as all the coaches and assistance had since YSU entering the MVFC. Monty's O put up incredible numbers during the weenie schedule but when it came time for when it counted (MVFC schedule) the statistics fell drastically. JT was the only coach YSU had that did well in the MVFC which yielded ~ 97 NC, 99 Runner up NC, 2000 1st round loss to Richmond. Since JT Heacock's 06 run and out right MVFC championship ring was his glory. Wolford's 5 years zero zip nada! Bo 2016 run with Wolf's kids and a bit of JT magic was his glory.

Thanks for your attention!

Red: You are just continuing on with your "hatefest". Anyone with any brains only has to look at coach M's record. The point that I am making is that I thought we may go more national with the assistants and did not. I am showing how the big name hire out of Florida was a big bust, while the Ohio guy proved to be very successful. I am hoping we will see the same this time around.

Dan Dan Dan,,, I even thanked you for paying attention. There is no "hate fest" Monty was not the superstar coach you make him out to be. His record alone debunks your argument. As the O-coordinator here, his offense was offensive when it came time to play the big boys in the MVFC no more no less. My brain is not clouded by delusional thought for some high powered offense that didn't exist under your man crush.

Bottom line: I'm pretty excited to see if the new guys are better than the old guy's. The bar isn't set to high for them considering the last 19 years.  fb
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: IAA Fan on February 13, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
Well Red, I guess you can call my post "Apocalypse Now". You see it as a war movie.  ;)
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 14, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
  We all hope, or at least most of are rooting for Phillips to win.  But come on, Tressel is not beyond shady dealings.

Phillips was 5th out of 7 when the committee interviewed.  It was tim Tyrrell's job, Don Treadwell next, then Shane Montgomery.

Tressel and Sebo together in Florida, Sebo writes the check.  Tressel makes the hire.  It's over now, let's hope Tressel made the right call.  Yes, I am skeptical and think a running backs coach from Cincinnati, who was out of football for 7 years is going to struggle.

 Phillips I think is average, we need more than average to turn this ship around.  Just my opinion.
One thing for DAMN SURE, it's just you opinion.  Show me the check!!  You are SLAMMING Jim Tressel and Bob Sebo, you better have some damn facts!!  You better have some facts to trash people like JT and BS.  Prove this claim or I am calling you a lying sack of sh**!  Put up, big mouth.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: ysubigred on February 14, 2020, 09:05:06 AM
Well Red, I guess you can call my post "Apocalypse Now". You see it as a war movie.  ;)

WOW Joe Biden!! That made me laugh out loud! Only because I don't know what the hell this means  ??? You "lying dogged face pony soldier"  8)

Next time I'm at a home game I have to make it a point to stop by your TG  ;D
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: IAA Fan on February 14, 2020, 11:58:13 AM
Well Red, I guess you can call my post "Apocalypse Now". You see it as a war movie.  ;)

WOW Joe Biden!! That made me laugh out loud! Only because I don't know what the hell this means  ??? You "lying dogged face pony soldier"  8)

Next time I'm at a home game I have to make it a point to stop by your TG  ;D

I figured you would be one of us that might get that. :) We are at the new lot now. It will be good to have people stop by. We are by the 3rd light post on the northeast side. You will see the two sets of flags on each end. Always food and drink around.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: Penquin68 on February 14, 2020, 02:01:08 PM
We have a fresh start in Football.  New coach who really seems to want to be here which is so important.  Most of the hires so far have been in contact with JT or one of his former coaches along the way. Most are young and should be hungry to do well rather than guys who have been at the big schools and things didn't work out. Hope they can put it all together.  Recruiting is the key along with hard work with our players who hopefully will buy in to the new group.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: guinpen on February 14, 2020, 08:08:16 PM
  We all hope, or at least most of are rooting for Phillips to win.  But come on, Tressel is not beyond shady dealings.

Phillips was 5th out of 7 when the committee interviewed.  It was tim Tyrrell's job, Don Treadwell next, then Shane Montgomery.

Tressel and Sebo together in Florida, Sebo writes the check.  Tressel makes the hire.  It's over now, let's hope Tressel made the right call.  Yes, I am skeptical and think a running backs coach from Cincinnati, who was out of football for 7 years is going to struggle.

 Phillips I think is average, we need more than average to turn this ship around.  Just my opinion.
One thing for DAMN SURE, it's just you opinion.  Show me the check!!  You are SLAMMING Jim Tressel and Bob Sebo, you better have some damn facts!!  You better have some facts to trash people like JT and BS.  Prove this claim or I am calling you a lying sack of sh**!  Put up, big mouth.

Thinking along the same lines, do we really know JT is staying with Sebo and if so, so what. Has anyone seen a check? Why would Sebo be so interested in DP? Any proof that JT wanted DP? This site does not have a good track record with rumors.
Title: Re: Doug Phillips
Post by: go guins on February 17, 2020, 09:29:48 AM
  We all hope, or at least most of are rooting for Phillips to win.  But come on, Tressel is not beyond shady dealings.

Phillips was 5th out of 7 when the committee interviewed.  It was tim Tyrrell's job, Don Treadwell next, then Shane Montgomery.

Tressel and Sebo together in Florida, Sebo writes the check.  Tressel makes the hire.  It's over now, let's hope Tressel made the right call.  Yes, I am skeptical and think a running backs coach from Cincinnati, who was out of football for 7 years is going to struggle.

 Phillips I think is average, we need more than average to turn this ship around.  Just my opinion.
One thing for DAMN SURE, it's just you opinion.  Show me the check!!  You are SLAMMING Jim Tressel and Bob Sebo, you better have some damn facts!!  You better have some facts to trash people like JT and BS.  Prove this claim or I am calling you a lying sack of sh**!  Put up, big mouth.

Thinking along the same lines, do we really know JT is staying with Sebo and if so, so what. Has anyone seen a check? Why would Sebo be so interested in DP? Any proof that JT wanted DP? This site does not have a good track record with rumors.
I agree, JT is entitled to have friends.  I have friends stay with us on Hilton Head all the time, and maybe I should have been getting big checke?!?!?  Some of this crap reads like Bob S. thinks finding Doug P a job is his life's work.  I assume they were both in Salem at the same time, but it is a bunch of years later and would be easier just to give Phillips the money directly.  Tressel seems to start with $1M and go up with donors! 
I would assume JT was involved with hiring DP.  He is without doubt the smartest football mind at YSU, I hope they use the resource.