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Signees so far:
Amarian Robinson. 5-11 DB from Akron East
Sam Merryman. LS/TE from Shadyside
Jackson Pruitt. 6-1 DB from Jeannette (PA)
Hunter Allen. 6-5, 225 DE from Canal Winchester
Ben Bentley. 6-0, 190 RB from Belfry (KY)
Gage Salyers. 6-2 DB from Ironton
Haeden Gump. 6-4, 285 OL from Girard
Devin Johnson. 6-1, 215 LB from Paintsville (KY)
Tyjon Jones. 6-1 DB from Johnstown (PA)
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Davonte Murray. 6-3, 230 DE from Cass Tech (MI)
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Chase Glover. 6-4 WR from West Bloomfield (MI)
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David Metzler. 6-5, 285 OL from Hilliard Bradley
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Brayden Taylor. 6-2, 215 LB from Wooster
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Now a transfer. Anthony Johnson. 6-2, 270 DT from Bowling Green. 4 years of eligibility left
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Logan Pasco. 6-0, 210 LB from Davidson (MI)
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Tariq Williamson. 6-3, 240 DE from Akron East.
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Sean Sweet. 6-5, 300 OL from Crestwood.
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Aidan Parker. 6-2, 280 OL from Westfield (IN).
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Lawson Schultz. 6-0, 260 FB from Butler CC.
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Evan Yockey. 6-6, 330 OL from Lakota West.
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Haeden, Haeden Gump is the best HUDL tape of all the NSD recruits so far, and in a position we NEED the most help, so very good to see. But I've watched a ton of HUDL tapes over the years and they can be very deceiving. I have great confidence in all-state guys from Coach Pearson's program, but, for instance, I am assuming things about the opponent I'm simply in no position to know. But good to have the highly respected OL help!
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James Morrow. 6-6, 300 OL from Butler CC
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Ezra Scott. 6-2, 195 RB from Anthony Wayne HS.
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James Morrow. 6-6, 300 OL from Butler CC
I've played Butler CC before when I worked in Butler, nice course but I don't remember their FB team? In any case, we seem to have depleted is somewhat with this class!
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Stephon Jones. 6-2, 345 OL from ASA College.
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That’s all for the early signees.
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That’s all for the early signees.
I count 23 which is a TON compared to last year's 8 wasn't it?
In any case, looks pretty well balanced, with some potential help in areas where we need HELP! IE, OL, DE, DB I noticed no QB's after signing about 8 over the last couple years. Nice to see confidence in guys we have.
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Stephon Jones. 6-2, 345 OL from ASA College.
this is the JUCO program that gave us the immortal Henry Yoboue. (I say immortal in that he must be a statue by now, I've never seen him move!) We have almost 700# of recruits from ASA in these two guys. Glad I don't have to feed them! At least Stephon appears to move on the field and we could use some straight ahead power at G occasionally. Welcome Mr Jones.
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Pelini's press conference is accessible via the university website. For a bit of good news, Bo did mention that Justus Reed weighed his options and has decided to return.
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Pelini's press conference is accessible via the university website. For a bit of good news, Bo did mention that Justus Reed weighed his options and has decided to return.
THAT is GREAT NEWS! Our best player coming back for a senior season is WONDERFUL! (wonder if he wants to go both ways and help out at OT too?)
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At the 1:56 minute mark of the presser today, he is asked about Haeden, Bo wasn't sure who he was and had to look at his notes until he was told the last name - Gump - only local kid recruited. Tells me a lot on how much he is involved in recruiting. Not much...
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At the 1:56 minute mark of the presser today, he is asked about Haeden, Bo wasn't sure who he was and had to look at his notes until he was told the last name - Gump - only local kid recruited. Tells me a lot on how much he is involved in recruiting. Not much...
Exactly
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Yeah I got that impression from around the 1 minute mark where he said we had a plan and the coaches executed it. "I really liked what we were able to do in this recruiting class. Carl really spearheaded the effort." Guess we will find out if Carl is a good recruiter. Because it certainly seems to me this is more his class than Bo's
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Big time commit just now for the Guins.
Demeatric Crenshaw, a 6-2 dual threat QB from Pickerington Central.
Offers from BC, Cincy, Toledo, Indiana, Kentucky and Louisville.
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Bo finally got his QB. Gem of the class. Was a 3 year starter and won 2 state titles. Huge get.
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Demeatric Crenshaw, a 6-2 dual threat QB from Pickerington Central.
Watched this kid play against Mentor in the 2017 Div I State Championship and the 2019 Div I State Quarter Finals. This kid is the real deal. Great Athlete, good size and speed...big plus for the program.
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Article from Tribune/Vindy
Pelini excited about new recruiting class
YSU SPORTS
DEC 19, 2019
JOE SIMON
Sports Reporter
jsimon@tribtoday.com
YOUNGSTOWN — For someone who has never cared for the theatrics of National Signing Day, Youngstown State coach Bo Pelini sure seemed to be in a good mood Wednesday.
“Great day for the program,” said Pelini as he walked into the press conference. “Great day.”
This wasn’t the first time he felt that way.
Pelini was equally exuberant last year when the Penguins signed a large contingent of players — several of whom were from the Mahoning Valley. Pelini said with the last two classes, it wasn’t just the talent or character of the players, but the fact that YSU was able to address several areas that were in need of depth.
“I told you guys how excited I was about last year’s class, and we were able to redshirt most of those guys,” said Pelini, referring to the Penguins giving redshirts to every true freshman but corner Dee Ford. “We’ll see how this group plays out, but we’re talking about two classes in a row that I think are going to lay a foundation for this program going forward. I have not had that luxury.”
Pelini didn’t shy away from the reason why.
Going into his sixth year leading YSU, Pelini admitted he focused mostly on junior college and FBS transfers when he first took over because he wanted to win right away.
That paid off with a trip to the FCS Championship in his second year, but it also may have set the program back the last few seasons, with YSU finishing 6-5 in 2017, 4-7 in 2018 and 6-6 this past year.
“I felt like we were short-term fixing things for the first few years, trying to patchwork things together,” Pelini said. “Now we’re working under the premise that we’re building this program for the future — not only for the present but also the future — which is a good feeling when you sit in my seat.
“You’ve got to make those decisions,” he added. “When I first came in, I wanted to win right now. You want to win and you want to have a chance to compete.”
The first part of this year’s class (Wednesday was the “early signing period” with another set for February) is much different than last year’s.
There was only one area athlete on Wednesday’s list — Girard offensive lineman Haeden Gump — after YSU signed seven last year. The 6-foot-4, 280-pound Gump will join fellow Indians Mark Waid, a soon-to-be redshirt freshman quarterback, and Michael Belcik, a sophomore wide receiver in the fall.
As Pelini praised Gump, he indicated that he anticipates more local players joining in February.
“He’s a big, physical kid,” Pelini said. “Tough, all about football. He represents this area really well, as far as what he brings to the table, and we’ll add some other local kids that we’re also talking to that’ll probably join our team as preferred walk-ons, that type of thing.”
Gump was one of seven offensive linemen on the signing-day list as YSU attempts to fill an area that has been decimated by graduation the last two years. Two of the linemen (Stephon Jones and James Morrow) were junior college transfers as the Penguins may be looking for them to take over right away after four starters graduated.
There were also four defensive linemen, four defensive backs, three linebackers, two tailbacks, one wide receiver, one fullback and a long-snapper on the 23-man list. Pelini said he has a better feel for how to build the roster now that he has spent five years at FCS level.
“We only got 63 scholarships to work with to sign 85 guys, so it’s like having a salary cap,” said Pelini, who gave much of the credit for this class to his brother, Carl, who has worked as the recruiting coordinator. “There’s a lot that plays into it, and lets face it, I wasn’t at this level (before). I was working at the full-scholarship level, so it takes a little bit of time for me to figure out that it’s a balancing act, and this is the best way to balance it.”
Pelini also touched on a few other topics.
Maybe the most important one was the return of defensive end Justus Reed. A senior in the fall, Reed will be in his seventh season of college football after several injuries resulted in two extra years of eligibility granted by the NCAA. Pelini said Reed, who led YSU and was tied for first in the conference with 12.5 sacks this year, considered leaving for the NFL Draft but instead chose to return.
Pelini also said some players will not be returning next year, but he did not specify which ones. He added that he has not yet evaluated the coaching staff to determine who may not be back in 2020 because his time was devoted to recruiting.
“I told you there were going to be some changes,” he said. “… We’re building for the present and the future, and there are just some kids that it was just time to move on from.”
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MAXPREPS has Demeatric Crenshaw as the 25th best QB in the country and #1 in Ohio. At lease 5 mid-major FBS offers. This may be the best rated recruit we've ever had, at any position. Listed starting the year at 6/2 205 finished the year 6/2 215 looks probably 6/0 225 which would be fine for me. Definitely run first, but seems to have effortless accurate release on throws. Some of Bo's "time to move on" players may be QB's. Frankly with Reed coming back, all looks hopeful.
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Crenshaw is the real deal from what I’ve been told from people who have seen him play. Makes you wonder about the future of Waid and his ability to throw the ball. Every game he’s been in, it’s been mostly runs. Should be an interesting fall camp.
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Crenshaw is the real deal from what I’ve been told from people who have seen him play. Makes you wonder about the future of Waid and his ability to throw the ball. Every game he’s been in, it’s been mostly runs. Should be an interesting fall camp.
Your observation of Waid's resume at YSU is obviously correct, but he threw for 4700 YDS and 48TD's as a senior going to the state championship at Girard. He can throw, we just don't seem to trust him yet (now maybe never) You're right about camp. RB, highly contested, WR highly contested, DB's & OL also. Only thing that wan't was QB, and now that might be #1! Crenshaw had to come here because promised a chance to play from day one when others said "redshirt".
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Big time commit just now for the Guins.
Demeatric Crenshaw, a 6-2 dual threat QB from Pickerington Central.
Offers from BC, Cincy, Toledo, Indiana, Kentucky and Louisville.
Wow, what a great get. I cannot wait to see how this plays out.
ESPN has him ranked as a 4 star, #19 Dual threat QB.
They also list an offer from Ga Tech but don't show us as offering or accepted yet.
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How did this guy end up at YSU? After watching his highlights he is clearly the starter week 1.
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How did this guy end up at YSU? After watching his highlights he is clearly the starter week 1.
We might have promised him just that....plus doing RPO for every play..
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Another transfer or 2 are on their way as well.
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Another transfer or 2 are on their way as well.
I hope an OT and an RB We could use some experience at both! I've been a Braxton Chapman fan, but clearly Bo isn't and I don't have much to do with ball distribution. One thing for certain, if Braxton gets only a few carries he isn't going to help much. Has to be work ethic or attitude, and I defer to the coaching staff to address.
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I think that they were expecting that kid from Ursuline to sign, but he took an offer from Western Michigan. Is that one of those Chief?
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I think that they were expecting that kid from Ursuline to sign, but he took an offer from Western Michigan. Is that one of those Chief?
Negative. I'm pretty sure a DB is coming in. Not sure about the rest.
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It was nice to see us sign a true FB. That's a blast from the past.
I can't remember the last true FB we had off the top of my head that saw any significant reps. Deke Ison maybe?
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Terrell Bailey, a 5-11 DB has transferred in from Tennessee. Had major SEC offers out of high school. Big pickup!
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How did this guy end up at YSU? After watching his highlights he is clearly the starter week 1.
The FBS schools wouldn't guarantee him a chance to compete at QB, but YSU did. Similar to how Lynn Bowden almost ended up here.
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Is Crenshaw still a verbal? Is he enrolled? If he is really serious about YSU he should be here for the spring practice. Otherwise probably still shopping for a better offer.
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Is Crenshaw still a verbal? Is he enrolled? If he is really serious about YSU he should be here for the spring practice. Otherwise probably still shopping for a better offer.
Yes he is committed. All depends on his high school if he can gradate early and get here. I doubt it.
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Is Crenshaw still a verbal? Is he enrolled? If he is really serious about YSU he should be here for the spring practice. Otherwise probably still shopping for a better offer.
Yes he is committed. All depends on his high school if he can gradate early and get here. I doubt it.
Yes he tweeted a thing about it, seems pretty darn committed
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Bump for today!
Chief? Any word on the kids from Dec staying? Stud QB?
Thanks! :angel:
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Word is Demeatric has signed. Nothing official yet.
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Word is Demeatric has signed. Nothing official yet.
That's good for the offense. What about Waid? Not a fan of revolving QB's but these two would be special "IF" they're willing.
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Bigred,
The kids that we signed in December are contractually bound to YSU for next season, unless we were to release them. Of course, they could just sit out a year and then go wherever they wanted. Hopefully, they will be receptive to the new coach.
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Bigred,
The kids that we signed in December are contractually bound to YSU for next season, unless we were to release them. Of course, they could just sit out a year and then go wherever they wanted. Hopefully, they will be receptive to the new coach.
Thanks Wick, I was thinking that, but somewhere I thought I heard a HC change can release them without penalty?
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Crenshaw has signed. It was posted on the YSU Football Twitter account. We can all relax a little now.
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Crenshaw has signed. It was posted on the YSU Football Twitter account. We can all relax a little now.
Yep it's official. Should be interesting how the QB room will play out.
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Bigred,
The kids that we signed in December are contractually bound to YSU for next season, unless we were to release them. Of course, they could just sit out a year and then go wherever they wanted. Hopefully, they will be receptive to the new coach.
Thanks Wick, I was thinking that, but somewhere I thought I heard a HC change can release them without penalty?
This is from national letter.org which has a ton of info about what a letter of intent means.
This was a FAQ about if a letter of intent is valid if your coach leaves
Yes. The NLI you signed with an institution remains binding if the coach who recruited you leaves the institution with which you signed. When you sign an NLI, you sign with an institution and not with a coach or a specific team.
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Bigred,
The kids that we signed in December are contractually bound to YSU for next season, unless we were to release them. Of course, they could just sit out a year and then go wherever they wanted. Hopefully, they will be receptive to the new coach.
Thanks Wick, I was thinking that, but somewhere I thought I heard a HC change can release them without penalty?
This is from national letter.org which has a ton of info about what a letter of intent means.
This was a FAQ about if a letter of intent is valid if your coach leaves
Yes. The NLI you signed with an institution remains binding if the coach who recruited you leaves the institution with which you signed. When you sign an NLI, you sign with an institution and not with a coach or a specific team.
Great thanks.
Soooo, am I to assume the YSU football program signed all it LOI's in DEC since I can't find any announcements for 5 Feb 20?! :-\
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Bigred,
Only Crenshaw. But he may or may not turn out to be a mighty big "only."
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Back in the early signing Bo said he expected to sign 4 more players on the second signing..he said several players were going to leave in the spring he would not elaborate beyond that
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Crenshaw has signed. It was posted on the YSU Football Twitter account. We can all relax a little now.
Yep it's official. Should be interesting how the QB room will play out.
Very interesting Chief..Great get by the Guins was a little worried when Bo left that he might back out of his verbal but luck was on our side all the teams that offered him had signed their quarterbacks by then. Its anyone's guess on how this might play out, could always line him up at the tailback position with Waid on occasion if he's not at quarterback That would give the defenses something to think about. Bottom line is your going to have to keep this kid happy because I think he expects to play right away would hate to see him transfer out to FBS after a year
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Crenshaw has signed. It was posted on the YSU Football Twitter account. We can all relax a little now.
Yep it's official. Should be interesting how the QB room will play out.
Very interesting Chief..Great get by the Guins was a little worried when Bo left that he might back out of his verbal but luck was on our side all the teams that offered him had signed their quarterbacks by then. Its anyone's guess on how this might play out, could always line him up at the tailback position with Waid on occasion if he's not at quarterback That would give the defenses something to think about. Bottom line is your going to have to keep this kid happy because I think he expects to play right away would hate to see him transfer out to FBS after a year
Hopefully, we have Waid for 4 more years OR Crenshaw for 4 more years, but I don't see us having both for 4 years. Does anybody else see if differently?
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I agree, doubt we would have both for 4 years, but crazier things have happened Go.
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Go..the only way I could see us keeping both is if Crenshaw was turned into a full time tailback. He could be the most dominant force at that position the Missouri conference has ever seen. But at the same token he is one hell of a passer..just a pure baller
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Go..the only way I could see us keeping both is if Crenshaw was turned into a full time tailback. He could be the most dominant force at that position the Missouri conference has ever seen. But at the same token he is one hell of a passer..just a pure baller
I agree with the "baller" comment, BUT.........
Waid is a very effective runner and athlete also. I don't see him as a TB, but maybe an H back running jet sweeps may be a possibility. The way I see it, if Crenshaw wants to play QB, he is going to play QB, here or someplace else.
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Given the modern offensive formations, there may just be a way to keep both Waid and Crenshaw happy and on the field most of the time. How about this. Waid starts at qb and Crenshaw at tb. But Crenshaw passes 15 times per game. How? He runs about 20 plays from the wildcat formation but passes on half of those occasions. The other five throws come from traditional half-back passes. I wonder if he would be happy with that arrangement? It would terrorize opposing defenses (if the o-line was good....big "if".)
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Given the modern offensive formations, there may just be a way to keep both Waid and Crenshaw happy and on the field most of the time. How about this. Waid starts at qb and Crenshaw at tb. But Crenshaw passes 15 times per game. How? He runs about 20 plays from the wildcat formation but passes on half of those occasions. The other five throws come from traditional half-back passes. I wonder if he would be happy with that arrangement? It would terrorize opposing defenses (if the o-line was good....big "if".)
Princeton used to run a 3-QB system where they literally had all 3 qbs on the field at the same time in different positions, you never knew who was going to run, pass etc.
But since Crenshaw is here and not at one of the several P5 schools he had offers from I don’t think any shared duties will be happening, I think Crenshaw is the starter from day 1
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Given the modern offensive formations, there may just be a way to keep both Waid and Crenshaw happy and on the field most of the time. How about this. Waid starts at qb and Crenshaw at tb. But Crenshaw passes 15 times per game. How? He runs about 20 plays from the wildcat formation but passes on half of those occasions. The other five throws come from traditional half-back passes. I wonder if he would be happy with that arrangement? It would terrorize opposing defenses (if the o-line was good....big "if".)
Princeton used to run a 3-QB system where they literally had all 3 qbs on the field at the same time in different positions, you never knew who was going to run, pass etc.
But since Crenshaw is here and not at one of the several P5 schools he had offers from I don’t think any shared duties will be happening, I think Crenshaw is the starter from day 1
Love Waid, but this is the only thing that makes sense for Crenshaw to sign with YSU is to play from day 1.
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With you Go guins Mark is a great athlete and most importantly a great kid. This has to be an emotional rollercoaster for him right about now. Obviously would never turn away talent like Crenshaw, but this is where our recruiting department really failed. You Bring in a guy like waid and label him as your centerpiece and work really hard to get him , then the following year you offer another quarterback when you should be offering quality lineman and ammunition for your centerpiece. This was always a big issue of mine with Bo. Wasted Scholarships everywhere you looked . I really feel Phillips will be a huge improvement in this area
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With you Go guins Mark is a great athlete and most importantly a great kid. This has to be an emotional rollercoaster for him right about now. Obviously would never turn away talent like Crenshaw, but this is where our recruiting department really failed. You Bring in a guy like waid and label him as your centerpiece and work really hard to get him , then the following year you offer another quarterback when you should be offering quality lineman and ammunition for your centerpiece. This was always a big issue of mine with Bo. Wasted Scholarships everywhere you looked . I really feel Phillips will be a huge improvement in this area
To be fair, I don’t think the last coaching staff worked all that hard to get Waid, and I don’t think anyone besides us fans labeled him as the centerpiece. He got a scholarship offer way late in the process and didn’t have a ton of other offers besides Fordham IIRC. He’s definitely a great athlete and I’d be happy to see him as the guy if Crawford hadn’t come along.
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With you Go guins Mark is a great athlete and most importantly a great kid. This has to be an emotional rollercoaster for him right about now. Obviously would never turn away talent like Crenshaw, but this is where our recruiting department really failed. You Bring in a guy like waid and label him as your centerpiece and work really hard to get him , then the following year you offer another quarterback when you should be offering quality lineman and ammunition for your centerpiece. This was always a big issue of mine with Bo. Wasted Scholarships everywhere you looked . I really feel Phillips will be a huge improvement in this area
Who knows? May be after having one year on the team, the coaches might have a different assessment on Waid as the centerpiece of our future.
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Hofstra eliminated football like 10 years ago. It was Fordham.
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With you Go guins Mark is a great athlete and most importantly a great kid. This has to be an emotional rollercoaster for him right about now. Obviously would never turn away talent like Crenshaw, but this is where our recruiting department really failed. You Bring in a guy like waid and label him as your centerpiece and work really hard to get him , then the following year you offer another quarterback when you should be offering quality lineman and ammunition for your centerpiece. This was always a big issue of mine with Bo. Wasted Scholarships everywhere you looked . I really feel Phillips will be a huge improvement in this area
Yes, like a bunch of useless WR's, a crop of useless LB's and a bunch of smaller defensive linemen that went over to offense when Bo felt they did not match his needs on D; even though we all know if they do not match-up on DL, they they certainly do not match up for OL. I think it was the media who put that label on Waid. Got to give us fans something to talk about.
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With you Go guins Mark is a great athlete and most importantly a great kid. This has to be an emotional rollercoaster for him right about now. Obviously would never turn away talent like Crenshaw, but this is where our recruiting department really failed. You Bring in a guy like waid and label him as your centerpiece and work really hard to get him , then the following year you offer another quarterback when you should be offering quality lineman and ammunition for your centerpiece. This was always a big issue of mine with Bo. Wasted Scholarships everywhere you looked . I really feel Phillips will be a huge improvement in this area
Yes, like a bunch of useless WR's, a crop of useless LB's and a bunch of smaller defensive linemen that went over to offense when Bo felt they did not match his needs on D; even though we all know if they do not match-up on DL, they they certainly do not match up for OL. I think it was the media who put that label on Waid. Got to give us fans something to talk about.
I have to admit I was surprised they didn't let Waid run the entire offense if he was as good as everyone was claiming he was. They didn't let him throw much for a reason.
I'm not saying he can't run that scheme, but they're use of him tells me they think he can't run that scheme.
NDSU didn't seem to have any issues modifying their playbook to suit the skills of their new FR QB. How'd that work out?
Why didn't we do that for Waid if he is so great? Why didn't more schools want him?
Handing him the starting QB job and not trying to recruit someone better is folly.
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Looks like we got a nice transfer from BG
Melvin Jackson
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Pos
CB
Height
5-11
Weight
160
Prospect Info
High School St. Edward
Home Town Lakewood, OH
Exp 2017 - ...
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
Pessimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys will come to YSU.
Optimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys are good enough for YSU.
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or Bo figured out he was going to LSU.
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
Pessimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys will come to YSU.
Optimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys are good enough for YSU.
Lets see,,, Go to a MAC school and play on national TV Tue, and Wed nights or come to YSU and hang out with Bo :angel:
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
Pessimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys will come to YSU.
Optimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys are good enough for YSU.
Lets see,,, Go to a MAC school and play on national TV Tue, and Wed nights or come to YSU and hang out with Bo :angel:
Go to a school with a history that includes 4 national titles or go to a school that will never get the chance to compete for a meaningful championship? I dunno, I guess the TV thing is a big deal, but Mount Union gets to play on national TV almost ever year too.
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Well if we were able to get Tariq here with 7 other Mac offers surely we could of got some of those players if we just threw a offer out. I consider Tariq a upper FBS player the others were probably between upper FCS lower level FBS talent. Just the type of kids we need here to compete in the MVC. Not sure who did the recruiting here , but it was just a disaster. To many lower level FCS and upper D2 players coming in if you ask me . I have total faith that Phillips will get the recruiting fixed around here. Not sure what's really in it for the MAC players other then jumping on a plane and playing in front of 3 large crowds a year that's the only thing I can think of
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Well if we were able to get Tariq here with 7 other Mac offers surely we could of got some of those players if we just threw a offer out. I consider Tariq a upper FBS player the others were probably between upper FCS lower level FBS talent. Just the type of kids we need here to compete in the MVC. Not sure who did the recruiting here , but it was just a disaster. To many lower level FCS and upper D2 players coming in if you ask me . I have total faith that Phillips will get the recruiting fixed around here. Not sure what's really in it for the MAC players other then jumping on a plane and playing in front of 3 large crowds a year that's the only thing I can think of
I agree, we should definitely be going after a lot of the same kids as the MAC, the talent in our conference is just as good just maybe a little less deep. There are compelling reasons to choose YSU over Kent and Akron, I hope this coaching staff can learn how to communicate those reasons effectively.
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
Pessimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys will come to YSU.
Optimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys are good enough for YSU.
Lets see,,, Go to a MAC school and play on national TV Tue, and Wed nights or come to YSU and hang out with Bo :angel:
Go to a school with a history that includes 4 national titles or go to a school that will never get the chance to compete for a meaningful championship? I dunno, I guess the TV thing is a big deal, but Mount Union gets to play on national TV almost ever year too.
A bit of sarcasm and a lot of truth to my statement. Brother Bo is no longer a HC at YSU due to many reasons but one major reason was recruiting. Secondly, the school history only rings true to us old timers the casual fan even in Y-town sadly still thinks 1FCS is D II and Can't states appearance on ESPN right before Thanks giving until Christmas sways more recruits than YSU's 90's NC at 1AA. Mount Union wow you are reaching ;)
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A bit of sarcasm and a lot of truth to my statement. Brother Bo is no longer a HC at YSU due to many reasons but one major reason was recruiting. Secondly, the school history only rings true to us old timers the casual fan even in Y-town sadly still thinks 1FCS is D II and Can't states appearance on ESPN right before Thanks giving until Christmas sways more recruits than YSU's 90's NC at 1AA. Mount Union wow you are reaching ;)
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There are 2 MILLION reasons Bo is not the HC at YSU. We were 6-6 last year primarily because of recruiting issues, but if we were 9-3 and made the playoffs, Bo would STILL be the DC at LSU for the same 2 MILLION reasons! ALWAYS remember the words of the greatest American philosopher of the 21th century, Cuba Gooding Jr. "Show me the MONEY!"
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
Pessimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys will come to YSU.
Optimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys are good enough for YSU.
Lets see,,, Go to a MAC school and play on national TV Tue, and Wed nights or come to YSU and hang out with Bo :angel:
Go to a school with a history that includes 4 national titles or go to a school that will never get the chance to compete for a meaningful championship? I dunno, I guess the TV thing is a big deal, but Mount Union gets to play on national TV almost ever year too.
A bit of sarcasm and a lot of truth to my statement. Brother Bo is no longer a HC at YSU due to many reasons but one major reason was recruiting. Secondly, the school history only rings true to us old timers the casual fan even in Y-town sadly still thinks 1FCS is D II and Can't states appearance on ESPN right before Thanks giving until Christmas sways more recruits than YSU's 90's NC at 1AA. Mount Union wow you are reaching ;)
Yes Mount Union example was a reach but it’s true, Kent and Akron aren’t the only local schools who get national TV coverage. I just don’t want us to use TV as an excuse. I think a motivated coaching staff can certainly overcome the MAC TV bump. And beating Akron next year would also be huge for recruiting
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Kent St signed 5 players within a 40 mile radius of their campus. Out of those 5 players none were offered by YSU
Pessimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys will come to YSU.
Optimistic: Bo probably figured out that none of these 5 guys are good enough for YSU.
Lets see,,, Go to a MAC school and play on national TV Tue, and Wed nights or come to YSU and hang out with Bo :angel:
Go to a school with a history that includes 4 national titles or go to a school that will never get the chance to compete for a meaningful championship? I dunno, I guess the TV thing is a big deal, but Mount Union gets to play on national TV almost ever year too.
A bit of sarcasm and a lot of truth to my statement. Brother Bo is no longer a HC at YSU due to many reasons but one major reason was recruiting. Secondly, the school history only rings true to us old timers the casual fan even in Y-town sadly still thinks 1FCS is D II and Can't states appearance on ESPN right before Thanks giving until Christmas sways more recruits than YSU's 90's NC at 1AA. Mount Union wow you are reaching ;)
Yes Mount Union example was a reach but it’s true, Kent and Akron aren’t the only local schools who get national TV coverage. I just don’t want us to use TV as an excuse. I think a motivated coaching staff can certainly overcome the MAC TV bump. And beating Akron next year would also be huge for recruiting
I don't live in the area so "IF" I remember and they make it to the Stag bowl then yes once a year for me.