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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: penguinpower on October 19, 2019, 11:46:21 PM
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Someone please explain to me how the worst defensive back in school history (possibly MVFV history) gets a job as a defensive backs coach? that TD where they threw it to the TE was vintage D'Alesio.
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His mothers boyfriends name is on the new press box. Oh and he coached Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. What a joke huh?
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His mothers boyfriends name is on the new press box. Oh and he coached Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. What a joke huh?
He didn't coach Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. He has no business coaching defensive backs. This is simply Mooney collusion.
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His mothers boyfriends name is on the new press box. Oh and he coached Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. What a joke huh?
He didn't coach Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. He has no business coaching defensive backs. This is simply Mooney collusion.
I think he was being sarcastic about the Rivers and Moss thing
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His mothers boyfriends name is on the new press box. Oh and he coached Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. What a joke huh?
He didn't coach Rivers and Moss to NFL careers. He has no business coaching defensive backs. This is simply Mooney collusion.
I think he was being sarcastic about the Rivers and Moss thing
I get it, but I don't want others to actually believe it
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Sarcasm for sure. He has the two of them all over hia twitter acount. Laughable and delusional. Like I said in another post. None of this is a quick fix. It runs deep and dirty. They have given full time coaching positions to people who should be graduate assistants.
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Rivers was nothing until he met D'Alesio! While he does need to go, you are starting a couple levels too low. This mess is a top down mess and Strollo and Pelini should be the first out the door!
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I seem to recall someone saying that the Pelini hiring was all on JT. ;) Then why stop at Strollo?
That was just a bit of sarcasm and I know that we are all upset. I did not expect much from this season, but Bo led us to believe, this combined with the way we win/lose/play, makes things even more of a disappointment. The team is simply not moving forward.
1. The lack of an O line until opening week.
2. The lack of recruiting running backs and foundation players which leads directly to...
3. All big play offense and defense. No balance. The only adjustments that we make on D is blitz, or not. We do make some adjustments on O, but the foundation is just not there to be successful.
The truth is that Bo is Bo and Strollo is going to handle this one of two ways:
1. The Wolf way. Or,
2. The Heacock way.
Wolf was basically told he was not going to be renewed; he got in early trouble when we lost a large group of players, from which we never seemed to recover. While coach H was given an expectation that had to be met or he would not be renewed. As I mentioned earlier, I will expect Strollo to treat Bo more like Heacock, and set an expectation.
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I seem to recall someone saying that the Pelini hiring was all on JT. ;) Then why stop at Strollo?
That was just a bit of sarcasm and I know that we are all upset. I did not expect much from this season, but Bo led us to believe, this combined with the way we win/lose/play, makes things even more of a disappointment. The team is simply not moving forward.
1. The lack of an O line until opening week.
2. The lack of recruiting running backs and foundation players which leads directly to...
3. All big play offense and defense. No balance. The only adjustments that we make on D is blitz, or not. We do make some adjustments on O, but the foundation is just not there to be successful.
The truth is that Bo is Bo and Strollo is going to handle this one of two ways:
1. The Wolf way. Or,
2. The Heacock way.
Wolf was basically told he was not going to be renewed; he got in early trouble when we lost a large group of players, from which we never seemed to recover. While coach H was given an expectation that had to be met or he would not be renewed. As I mentioned earlier, I will expect Strollo to treat Bo more like Heacock, and set an expectation.
I said that JT brought Bo to YSU, but you corrected me. Not being one to argue, I converted! (I can dabble in sarcasm too!)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkoYP7BacA
Bo says he can't explain the breakdowns. Well coach, look at the film of your DB coach/DC when he played. He does everything you aren't supposed to do and you hired him. That may be a good explanation as to why you have so many breakdowns
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Here are some old memories from a YSU fan that did a nice job with his blog.
http://www.paneech.com/tag/nick-gooden/
There is a litany of references to Donald D'Alesio a d his inability to cover anyone. How about these frustrating memories? ugh. I have a good idea, let's hire him so he can teach others to not have the ability to cover anyone on defense.
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The only reason these young guys were hired is because they are young and full of energy so they do most of the recruiting so Bo doesn't have to.
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He is coaching at YSU for the same reason he played at YSU. Not sure Bo has a say either.
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So energy makes u a good recruiter? They have no track record of recruiting. So its on the job training at the expense of the fans. And a gross waste of resources. Most if not all of the coaching positions posted at YSU demands D1 or D2 experience. That should surely be the case with football considering the conference competiton.
Anyway, like I said none of this is easily fixed. Not to mention the cupboard is empty. Depth (recruiting) is a real issue. If u dont think so look at our 3rd and 4th quarters.
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So energy makes u a good recruiter? They have no track record of recruiting. So its on the job training at the expense of the fans. And a gross waste of resources. Most if not all of the coaching positions posted at YSU demands D1 or D2 experience. That should surely be the case with football considering the conference competiton.
Anyway, like I said none of this is easily fixed. Not to mention the cupboard is empty. Depth (recruiting) is a real issue. If u dont think so look at our 3rd and 4th quarters.
Didn't say they were good recruiters lol. Just saying that's a reason why they are coaches.
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Excluding the WIU game the D has given up 129 point in 3 games. I would say its a problem with personel, coaching, scheme, adjustments and preparation.
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The opposing QB has to choose which open receiver he wants to throw it to......sounds like the DC has. even training them well and effectively
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The good thing is the DC has extensive on-the-job training trying to chase down receivers..... So sick of excuses about budget limitations BLAH BLAH BLAH..... This is the best we can do?
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This is bad real bad. How does a team start off winning their first four games and then go backwards and get worse as the year goes on. No team does that unless they have a slew of injuries. I'm at a loss for words. I have no faith in the administration and this coaching staff. YSU needs to do what it takes to move in a different direction as soon as the last game is played. We are a bottom feeder in our conference. Seems like the team has quit on the coaching staff and Leadership.
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This is bad real bad. How does a team start off winning their first four games and then go backwards and get worse as the year goes on. No team does that unless they have a slew of injuries. I'm at a loss for words. I have no faith in the administration and this coaching staff. YSU needs to do what it takes to move in a different direction as soon as the last game is played. We are a bottom feeder in our conference. Seems like the team has quit on the coaching staff and Leadership.
When you play four cupcakes and get false bravado that is what happens...and you can't coach kids up or motivate them when the going gets tough. You cannot constantly yell at kids today like what is happening on our sidelines ..DEVELOP THEM!!! This isn't Don Bucci era football...recruit tough kids regardless of talent, teach them, develop them, and they will run through a brick wall for you!! We recruit football players..not ATHLETES! MULTI-SPORT ATHLETES is what we are missing!! Football players give up..ATHLETES get better because they know how to handle failure and how to buck up!! Kids like that are easy to coach...
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Did you hear pelini in his press conference state the freshman class this year was his best recruiting class and he will be looking to play some this year now in the last games?
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Did you hear pelini in his press conference state the freshman class this year was his best recruiting class and he will be looking to play some this year now in the last games?
yes I did. Waid makes the class clearly above average right out of the box. Several DB's should greatly improve defense with some PT. HOWEVER, this team is playing FAR below potential and it has to do with leadership and discipline. You look to the coaching staff and usually the QB for direction and consistency and although I am NOT a fan of Mays as a QB, he is unquestionably tough and I refuse to dump on him for this mess. To me the lack of consistent play falls on the staff and I think 100% may be the correct number to replace. HOWEVER we are not about to do that, so I'm not sure where you go. Certainly you move Carl to D and get Waid an spread offense OC and see where we go from there.
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Nothing against Waid but his other offer was Fordham. If he becomes a productive QB time will tell. I thk Pelini is full of s**t. A few years ago was probably better based on stars as we got several high rated defensive guys from western PA and the kid from Minnesota. Smoke n mirrors by Pelini.
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The program will not move forward until Pelini is gone. Have you looked at the other teams rosters? They are all young! North Dakota State and Northern Iowa have the least amount of senior starters in the conference. North Dakota State, UNI, and South Dakota State have stud redshirt freshman quarterbacks.
Pelini's talent is below average, that is one him and his lack of recruiting players good enough to complete in this conference.
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I turned off the South Dakota game in the third quarter. I'm assuming Waid did not play. Correct? That would give him one more free game. Play Craycraft against Indiana State and give Waid the entire game against Illinois State on the final week. Let's get a glimpse of him against a good team that needs to win to advance to the playoffs. Right now nobody really knows what this kid can do.
Any other freshman who has not yet seen the field but is being counted on heavily by the coaches for the future should start the last two games. What is the worst that can happen? Give up 56 points and get crushed? Par for the course.
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I turned off the South Dakota game in the third quarter. I'm assuming Waid did not play. Correct? That would give him one more free game. Play Craycraft against Indiana State and give Waid the entire game against Illinois State on the final week. Let's get a glimpse of him against a good team that needs to win to advance to the playoffs. Right now nobody really knows what this kid can do.
Any other freshman who has not yet seen the field but is being counted on heavily by the coaches for the future should start the last two games. What is the worst that can happen? Give up 56 points and get crushed? Par for the course.
I agree with your thoughts 100% Move Carl to the D, Move Waid to QB and find a OC that features a spread attack and let's go. Pat Pearson from Girard would be a place to start looking for an OC. He too a team without Waid to the playoffs with plenty of offensive stats I believe.
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I can't honestly believe that you are proposing to add a high school coach as the OC. This is exactly how we ended up where we are. We need to get some top graduate assistants that are completing their time and are ready to coach at the college level. Our problem was not the OC. The problem is the OL coach and the D'alesio mess.
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I can't honestly believe that you are proposing to add a high school coach as the OC. This is exactly how we ended up where we are. We need to get some top graduate assistants that are completing their time and are ready to coach at the college level. Our problem was not the OC. The problem is the OL coach and the D'alesio mess.
Exactly this...all of it.
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Maybe they can re-hire the older Stoops back too for special teams. What a gross waste of a salary for YEARS. Wasn't he supposed to be the liaison for local high school coaches? Collected a salary for too many years. Anyone see a trend yet?
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I can't honestly believe that you are proposing to add a high school coach as the OC. This is exactly how we ended up where we are. We need to get some top graduate assistants that are completing their time and are ready to coach at the college level. Our problem was not the OC. The problem is the OL coach and the D'alesio mess.
Somebody make a list of high school coaches who coached high school before getting their first college job. I'll start:
Damn near every coach of note!
We need to open up and run the spread to be effective in today's game and fully utilize Mark Waid. His HS coach isn't a bad place to start. Do you thing he would be worse the the coordinators we have now?
Again, IMO moving Carl back to DC and Pearson to OC gives us a much better chance to win going forward.
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Not too change the subject, but I thought Baker was the DB coac?
As to D'Alesio, he is the kind of guy that we want coaching here. It is just that he he is no where near ready for a coordinator's job.
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DJ Gomes coaches DB's. Baker coaches LB's.
And to your 2nd comment.... I just spit out my water laughing so hard. Typical Town attitude.
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There is no question in my mind that Pelini needs to replace Crist (OC) and D'Alesio (DC) for us to have any hope next year.