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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: pen4life on September 06, 2019, 10:15:13 PM
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Was talking to you parking supervisor who said they did away with handicap parking behind east stands so they could create tail gate lot. Meanwhile us gimps have to park on wick, take a shuttle to the front of the stadium and walk around to the east stands. I've been supporting the guins since1963. My wife and I have been season ticket holders for over 20 years. Well thanks to this pack of insensitive dolts next year we are staying home and watching the guins on tv.
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pen4life,
That is terrible but, unfortunately, not surprising. Don't accept such a decision from the idiots that run parking. I urge you to write polite letters to both Tressel and the chair of the Board of Trustees in which you note that parking spaces for handicapped fans are more important than additional tailgating space. Sent both to this address: Youngstown State University, One University Plaza, Youngstown, OH 44555.
My guess is that they would accommodate you and others that need the service.
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I walked through that lot about 10 minutes before kickoff and it was only half full. I also parked in the Wick deck.
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the whole stadium isn't senior friendly. they should have built a bowl type stadium. less steps
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I do not know if I completely agree. The new walkway is nice on the north-end, so people can avoid the east-side steps. It would be very simple to join the M-82 lot and the elevator. Frankly I am surprised this was not done. Include that in your note. I will support you all that I can.(not that it means anything).
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Spoke with a variety of university officials and no one seems to know nuthin. Admin says it's decision of events who say it's the athletic dept who in turn passes the buck to parking services. Nobody is willing to seriously address this problem. Come on president Tressel this is no way to treat the handicapped and elderly. We are some of the teams most loyal supporters and we are being treated like dirt. It was us who were there when Dick Adipotti and the team faced Southern Connecticut, we were there when Denny Klembera faced Rodger Staubach and now we can't get into the stadium.
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Unless I'm missing something, this situation is simply WRONG and YSU should step up IMMEDIATELY to remedy. I mean JT, the trustees, parking services, the AD and his department. This isn't for "somebody" to fix, it's for EVERYBODY involved to fix, and NOW. I't Wed. and there is a game Saturday. If there isn't concrete action by them, heads should roll!
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Sitting at home watching game on TV. My wife’s and my season tickets are sitting on the dining room table. My condition is acting up today and I would never have been able to walk the 1/2 mile uphill from the “handicap “ parking the University so graciously provided us. Good game so far, would liked to have been there but YSU does not seem interested in the attendance of handicapped or elderly. Go Guins !
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I went out of my way to walk through that new "tailgate" lot about fifteen minutes before kickoff. There were two small tents erected and plenty of spaces available. Meanwhile, pen4life sits at home. This is an abomination.
So handicapped people should park in the Wick deck and take the shuttle. Oh, the shuttle that loads in front of the art museum off Wick Avenue. To reach that destination from the Wick deck, a person with mobility issues has two choices: park on level two and walk uphill a reasonably long distance up the entrance drive and then more yards to the front of the museum. Or park on level three, take a bridge at the back of the museum, and then climb two steep stairways to the bus loading area. Do you think that these idiots could have that shuttle pick up patrons at the Walnut entrance, so that handicapped folks could park on the bottom level and reach the shuttle after a brief, LEVEL walk? NO, that would require a degree of intelligence beyond the capabilities of this so-called staff.
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It seems like all we need to do is increase the quantity of spots. There is a simple and quick solution. Either lot M2 (in part), M53 (right next to police), or M52 should be designated for handicapped and a shuttle should run at 15-minute increments that drops people off at the elevator. However, I will say this. My parents parked in the handicapped lot (grass) back when they had it ... & 80% (possibly more) of those parking there were not even close to handicapped. They just borrowed stickers; this is why you have no real consideration today. Same thing with every overweight teen in America because they have grandmother's second sticker that the gov't generously provides widows with one vehicle.
Anyway, let's offer a real solution and the university will provide. The lower level of the parking deck is marked handicapped and is currently being used. This is level for walking. It is not the university's fault people abuse it. If we give part of the new M-80 tailgate lot, which is what some propose, then why did I pay $210 for my M80 pass while young miss Walmart's family enjoys the privilege for free? That is not a fair solution. If you are handicapped and wish to tailgate, then pay for it like everyone else.
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Ridiculous to have that lot behind the east stands as a tailgate lot. Anything to bring in "money" for this incompetent athletic department.
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IAA Fan,
You asked for a real solution, so here it is. You actually hit upon it in your last post. Make parts of the large lot on Rayen across from the Education School a reserved section for handicapped parking. Run a special handicapped shuttle from that lot to near the elevator on the west side. That is the solution since the university obviously won't take away your new tailgate lot.
Why is that special shuttle necessary? Because as I outlined yesterday, the current shuttle service at the Wick deck is worthless and inaccessible to truly handicapped people.
You have contacts. It is up to you to get this done.
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Ridiculous to have that lot behind the east stands as a tailgate lot. Anything to bring in "money" for this incompetent athletic department.
I have no problem with them making some money but the trick is balance, they do not seem to have a grip on that yet. The east lot was nowhere full again, they could have easily used it to make some handicap and/or season ticket holders very happy with a special parking rate.
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1AA Fan. It is very unfair to imply that the victims of this mess are actually to blame because your parents said ”80% or more were not really handicapped. People have a gross ignorance of disability. Just because someone looks OK on the outside doesn’t mean the disability doesn’t exist on the inside. Even the fat kid you talked about may be dead in 6 months from a disorder most people can’t even spell much less recognize. I am sure a few people abuse handicapped parking but all should not be punished because of the few. These views do not offer a realistic solution but are part of the problem.
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Ridiculous to have that lot behind the east stands as a tailgate lot. Anything to bring in "money" for this incompetent athletic department.
Yeah,,,how awful of them to try to make “money”,,,,,foolish statement,,,,utterly foolish
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Ridiculous to have that lot behind the east stands as a tailgate lot. Anything to bring in "money" for this incompetent athletic department.
Yeah,,,how awful of them to try to make “money”,,,,,foolish statement,,,,utterly foolish
My point is for another tailgate lot when there is plenty of tailgate areas available elsewhere on campus...
You can't leave a row open for handicap in that lot behind the east stands? It's not like the stadium is busting at capacity lol.
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Ridiculous to have that lot behind the east stands as a tailgate lot. Anything to bring in "money" for this incompetent athletic department.
Yeah,,,how awful of them to try to make “money”,,,,,foolish statement,,,,utterly foolish
My point is for another tailgate lot when there is plenty of tailgate areas available elsewhere on campus...
You can't leave a row open for handicap in that lot behind the east stands? It's not like the stadium is busting at capacity lol.
I think Chief's point is well made. We had a good crowd Saturday and the M-70 tali gate lot has as many empty spots as the 1st row of parking behind the east stands. This argument from the administration at YSU makes absolutely NO sense to me. Why continue to fight when you are clearly wrong? C'mon Man, wake up YSU!
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Ridiculous to have that lot behind the east stands as a tailgate lot. Anything to bring in "money" for this incompetent athletic department.
Yeah,,,how awful of them to try to make “money”,,,,,foolish statement,,,,utterly foolish
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My point is for another tailgate lot when there is plenty of tailgate areas available elsewhere on campus...
You can't leave a row open for handicap in that lot behind the east stands? It's not like the stadium is busting at capacity lol.
I think Chief's point is well made. We had a good crowd Saturday and the M-70 tali gate lot has as many empty spots as the 1st row of parking behind the east stands. This argument from the administration at YSU makes absolutely NO sense to me. Why continue to fight when you are clearly wrong? C'mon Man, wake up YSU!
Make no sense? That is the motto of the YSU's parking policy. Have you ever met that guy in charge of parking at ysu?
I have been on many YSU committee meetings where he participated. What came out of his mouth truly amazed me. Today, I am still puzzled by how he can manage to hold on to his job. If I taught like that in my classes, I would not even be able to finish my semester.
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Double ET,
Your response is the only one that I could understand, but obviously neither of us agree.
Taking out handicap parking in 2019 is beyond imagination. Reminds me of a church leader I talked to one time about making his church handicap accessible, and he said there was no need, they didn't have any handicap persons attending! I suppose if a church could be that stupid, so could a university, I just wish it wasn't mine!
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Just got an email from the school on some new policies.....
In an effort to be more accommodating to the Youngstown State University football fan base, the Athletic Department and YSU Parking Services are announcing new Gameday parking procedures to better serve handicap and seniors attending football games at Stambaugh Stadium.
"We have a great fan base, and we recognize a portion of our fans need additional assistance to get to the stadium," Ron Strollo, Executive Director of Athletics said. "Our hope is the new three-shuttle system and dedicated handicap parking lot on Rayen Avenue, near Fifth Avenue, will assist in allowing our fans to attend games more conveniently."
Starting with this Saturday's, YSU home game against Robert Morris, the University will institute the following procedures:
There will be three shuttles that will run starting 90 minutes prior to kickoff starting in the M-53 Parking Lot located on Rayen Avenue just east of Fifth Avenue. One of the shuttles will be wheelchair accessible.
The shuttle will make three stops around campus:
The northeast corner of Fifth Avenue and Lincoln Avenue.
The corner of Fifth Avenue and Armed Forces Blvd.
The M-82 Penguin Club/Taylor Automotive Tailgate Lot on the East Bound Service Road behind the east stands.
The shuttles will run until the end of the first quarter and begin again prior to the conclusion of the game to return fans to the M-53 Parking Lot. Post-game pickup for Armed Forces Blvd. will be the Northeast corner of the intersection.
The M-53 Lot on Rayen Avenue will be a dedicated Handicap lot. Parking will be $5.
Fans may also purchase individual game tailgate passes in the M-82 Penguin Club/Taylor Automotive Tailgate Lot and the M-70 Penguin Club/Hollywood Gaming Tailgate Lot – based on availability each game.
Penguin fans requiring additional information or assistance may contact the YSU Athletic Ticket Office at 330.941.1YSU (1978) or log onto YSUsports.com
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What wonderful news for pen4life and any others that need such a service. This is exactly the type of logical solution that we had been advocating on this board.
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Great news, it sounds like an excellent solution, Thanks to the YSU athletic dept, parking services and the administration. And a special thanks to the diehard fans on this site who just wouldn’t let this issue go. You have made it possible for many folks to continue a great tradition , thank you.
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If anyone on here uses the new services \ lot assignments today I'd be interested in hearing how smoothly it all works out for you.
Glad the school addressed this, it sure looks like a nice solution.
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I will let you know
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The new system works very well and accommodates the needs of the older fans and those who are physically challenged. We just need to publicize it more as most of the folks I talked to didn’t know the change was made. So anyone needing this service go to lot on 5th and Rayen.
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The system did not work very well for a lot of us old folks who had been boarding the bus at M1 deck at least for the last 15 years.
At least 10 of us were still waiting for the bus 15 minutes before game time. This included an out of town family coming to town to watch (for the first time) their relative who transferred in to play for ysu. They gave up and walked to the game in order not to miss the kick off. They told me they were told to wait for the bus in M1 deck.
This is their contact with ysu.
Kudos to the bus driver who saw us and came over to pick us up. He was just as confused as us on why would the bus not be scheduled to make a stop at M1 since the route passed right in front of M1 deck. The driver indicated that the M1 had had the largest ridership for the buses historically
Communications has always been a major problem at ysu, according to internal survey. Things have not changed.
As a minimum, the buses should have stopped at M1 deck, at least for this weekend until all are informed of the change. But, this is too much to ask.
Speaking of lack of communications, a couple of old folks were told to go to the new pick up area instead of M1, only to be told that they could park in the lot since they did not have a handicap parking tag....
I guess things did go smoothly.... depending on your expectations. It did not meet my expectations...
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At least the university is making an attempt to do something. I have to say that the buses were highly-visible this week. It has to be hard when you only have 5 or 6 events per year.
Parking@ysu.edu is their email. Send them your comments and suggestions. I think adding the deck is a good idea. Another idea is for them to realize that many of these people are seniors; many of which do not stay for the entire game. They should run continuously.
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ET,
I give up. These people are hopeless. So the M1 deck had the highest level of shuttle use. The shuttle buses must drive down Wick on the way to picking up passengers in the new handicapped lot. So let's not stop at the Wick deck anymore and make seniors who lack handicapped stickers walk nearly a half mile to the stadium. This isn't a communication problem. It is a demonstration of abject stupidity.
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ET,
I give up. These people are hopeless. So the M1 deck had the highest level of shuttle use. The shuttle buses must drive down Wick on the way to picking up passengers in the new handicapped lot. So let's not stop at the Wick deck anymore and make seniors who lack handicapped stickers walk nearly a half mile to the stadium. This isn't a communication problem. It is a demonstration of abject stupidity.
I agree. When you tear out the existing handicap parking and ignore it until after a game or two, then find an out of the way lot, call it handicapped and run a couple shuttle bus's, you do NOT get credit for addressing the problem from me! The university should be thoroughly embarrassed by this episode.