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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: YSU1 on December 15, 2018, 09:56:55 AM
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just give the trophy to the Bison. They play at another level.
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just give the trophy to the Bison. They play at another level.
I don't think changing coaches will hurt them much. Losing their Sr QB might, but I doubt it. They are just so sound.
I bet whatever coach they hire doesn't mind recruiting haha. They have 3 FR QB just waiting. All 6'3" they know what they like and just reload.
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I am surprised that NDSt hasn't moved up to the FBS level, they would make a lot more money. They would not dominate the FBS level like they do the FCS level, but they would get into FBS bowls maybe some high paying ones.
So. Dakota St. is a good team, but NDSt controlled the offense and their defense is vey good.
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They have nothing to prove at FCS. I think they would have to build a new Stadium.
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I am surprised that NDSt hasn't moved up to the FBS level, they would make a lot more money. They would not dominate the FBS level like they do the FCS level, but they would get into FBS bowls maybe some high paying ones.
So. Dakota St. is a good team, but NDSt controlled the offense and their defense is vey good.
Not sure about that. I know some teams have lost money on lesser bowl games. I’m sure they make plenty of return on investment with all the publicity they receive as a powerhouse in FCS.
If I were a NDSU fan I’d rather dominate in FCS than become irrelevant in FBS.
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All I know is we are a long way from that level of play.
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I am surprised that NDSt hasn't moved up to the FBS level, they would make a lot more money. They would not dominate the FBS level like they do the FCS level, but they would get into FBS bowls maybe some high paying ones.
So. Dakota St. is a good team, but NDSt controlled the offense and their defense is vey good.
Not sure about that. I know some teams have lost money on lesser bowl games. I’m sure they make plenty of return on investment with all the publicity they receive as a powerhouse in FCS.
If I were a NDSU fan I’d rather dominate in FCS than become irrelevant in FBS.
Yeah I agree. A playoff run and a National title are a lot more fun. Georgia Southern and App State both had very good seasons. And their reward? They're playing in bowl games that I neither know when they are played or what they are called. How glamorous.
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You guys are in the LaLa land of make believe that an FCS championship run is better than moving up. Ask Boise St how it worked for them. Other than your teams fans nobody cares about FCS football. The Bison could pull it off like Boise did. I don’t see many of the BCS teams wanting to drop down for a championship run! It’s about exposure not minor football championships. As for the costs of the football program I think the students are footing most of the bill to pay for football at YSU. If that was taken away we would be another Butler.
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I cannot remember if I have seen a run play today. Maine has a great QB, but if your offense is being stopped by EWU, they obviously have no talent around him. EWU has no chance against NDSU. Although they have big play receivers on both sides this year. They did not have that against us 2-years ago.
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I cannot remember if I have seen a run play today. Maine has a great QB, but if your offense is being stopped by EWU, they obviously have no talent around him. EWU has no chance against NDSU. Although they have big play receivers on both sides this year. They did not have that against us 2-years ago.
Not true lol. EWU had Cooper Kupp who's now with the Rams and Kendrick Bourne now with the 49ers. Both of them had almost 200 yards receiving vs us.
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You guys are in the LaLa land of make believe that an FCS championship run is better than moving up. Ask Boise St how it worked for them. Other than your teams fans nobody cares about FCS football. The Bison could pull it off like Boise did. I don’t see many of the BCS teams wanting to drop down for a championship run! It’s about exposure not minor football championships. As for the costs of the football program I think the students are footing most of the bill to pay for football at YSU. If that was taken away we would be another Butler.
NDSU would not be a “BCS” team they’d go to a group of 5 conference. Also Idaho dropped from FBS to FCS
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I wonder if they built a bigger stadium, obviously a dome, would they have the fans to fill it. If they moved up it would almost guarantee losses. Probably something they don't want to do. Keep the brand hot until it's not.
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their enrollment is less than YSU so I doubt they can draw big numbers
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Watched the last 2 NDSU games. What impresses me most is that they really don't have supper athletes at most positions, but to they play so fundamentally sound! Tackles in space by their db's is outstanding compared to our play. It is like our team is not fundamentally sound in many areas including tackling. I don't know how may times our number 7 is in space and beaten on a tackle. Maybe NDSU players are better athletes, but to me they don't look it compared to our players. If we did a standard speed agility test like the NFL Combine, I think many times our guys are better. But not on the football field. At least my opinion. It is like our coaching does not do enough to get our players fundamentally sound in blocking and tackling.
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They also have a pretty good quarterback and the guy before him was pretty good.
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You guys are in the LaLa land of make believe that an FCS championship run is better than moving up. Ask Boise St how it worked for them. Other than your teams fans nobody cares about FCS football. The Bison could pull it off like Boise did. I don’t see many of the BCS teams wanting to drop down for a championship run! It’s about exposure not minor football championships. As for the costs of the football program I think the students are footing most of the bill to pay for football at YSU. If that was taken away we would be another Butler.
I don't give a sh** if other people around the country know who we are or care. I'd rather go to the playoffs than the WhoTheHellCares Bowl brought to you by Dollar Tree.
What's about exposure? Every team has their games available to everyone now......I can pick from about a hundred games every Saturday.
If you're worried about costs, ask the administrations at places like Kent and Akron if they like losing millions a year to play "big time" football. They are guaranteed to lose money every single season with ZERO chances at ever winning anything outside of a conference championship and a garbage bowl.
If you think the prospects for a fun year are better at a school like that, go watch them. Enjoy that big time atmosphere LOL.
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You guys are in the LaLa land of make believe that an FCS championship run is better than moving up. Ask Boise St how it worked for them. Other than your teams fans nobody cares about FCS football. The Bison could pull it off like Boise did. I don’t see many of the BCS teams wanting to drop down for a championship run! It’s about exposure not minor football championships. As for the costs of the football program I think the students are footing most of the bill to pay for football at YSU. If that was taken away we would be another Butler.
I don't give a sh** if other people around the country know who we are or care. I'd rather go to the playoffs than the WhoTheHellCares Bowl brought to you by Dollar Tree.
What's about exposure? Every team has their games available to everyone now......I can pick from about a hundred games every Saturday.
If you're worried about costs, ask the administrations at places like Kent and Akron if they like losing millions a year to play "big time" football. They are guaranteed to lose money every single season with ZERO chances at ever winning anything outside of a conference championship and a garbage bowl.
If you think the prospects for a fun year are better at a school like that, go watch them. Enjoy that big time atmosphere LOL.
I'm 100% in with HappyPenguin. In a moment of truth, I'm sure both Kent and Akron would like to be meaningful in their programs. Honest to goodness, I did check on the "WhoTheHellCares Bowl brought to you by Dollar Tree" and couldn't find it on the schedule (I did see one brought to you by Dollar General instead). I did see some games with as many fans as we had the last couple games when we were hopeless mired in the second division and terrible weather. That second/third/even fourth tier "FBS" football is a hopeless mess for most teams and thank goodness we don't have to deal with it.
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I'll take the MAC as is over where we are.
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from top to bottom we are in the best FCS conference in the country
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I have followed YSU sports for a long time. Always thought we would get into the MAC and then have more local rivalries, closer travel, etc. But I have given up on that thought due to the cost involved and the YSU budget situation and the local economy. Just doesn't seem possible. At one point thought the MAC would come down to near our level which we could afford, but it doesn't seem possible. If we would have gotten in in 1995, not sure what would be so today. It was close. For me I enjoy the games we are in and accept that is where it is. Like that girl you wanted in HS, maybe you are better off without her.
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I have followed YSU sports for a long time. Always thought we would get into the MAC and then have more local rivalries, closer travel, etc. But I have given up on that thought due to the cost involved and the YSU budget situation and the local economy. Just doesn't seem possible. At one point thought the MAC would come down to near our level which we could afford, but it doesn't seem possible. If we would have gotten in in 1995, not sure what would be so today. It was close. For me I enjoy the games we are in and accept that is where it is. Like that girl you wanted in HS, maybe you are better off without her.
The more local games is the only reason I’d want to move to the MAC. Not sure why the MAC doesn’t move down to FCS. Seems like they’d be better off from a competitive and financial perspective
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If the MAC would drop down that would be IDEAL for us, and probably at least half their member programs, if they were being honest with themselves.
I'm sure they would still find excuses to not play us LOL. Some of the best times I had were the Kent and Akron games I would love to play them again.
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You guys are in the LaLa land of make believe that an FCS championship run is better than moving up. Ask Boise St how it worked for them. Other than your teams fans nobody cares about FCS football. The Bison could pull it off like Boise did. I don’t see many of the BCS teams wanting to drop down for a championship run! It’s about exposure not minor football championships. As for the costs of the football program I think the students are footing most of the bill to pay for football at YSU. If that was taken away we would be another Butler.
Boise is the very rare exception to the rule and has twice the population of Fargo to boot. Ask Marshall, Georgia Southern, Appy or Western Kentucky when was the last time they were top ten FBS. I doubt that 1 person out of 10 could tell you the conference these schools are in. So much for exposure.
Is an obscure minor bowl any better then a minor football championship? Most schools already in a power 5 conference, get very little exposure.
The separation between the Power 5 and the FBS pretenders will continue to grow and at some point there will be a break. That is when YSU must be ready to take advantage. YSU, Akron, Kent or NDSU will never make the FBS play-offs. NDSU would be crazy to move up, they have a great thing going.
I have very little interest in our current league, great conference just no interest in most of the schools. At some point YSU will be playing in a league with some of the current MAC schools, just a matter of when and at what level.
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You guys are in the LaLa land of make believe that an FCS championship run is better than moving up. Ask Boise St how it worked for them. Other than your teams fans nobody cares about FCS football. The Bison could pull it off like Boise did. I don’t see many of the BCS teams wanting to drop down for a championship run! It’s about exposure not minor football championships. As for the costs of the football program I think the students are footing most of the bill to pay for football at YSU. If that was taken away we would be another Butler.
Boise is the very rare exception to the rule and has twice the population of Fargo to boot. Ask Marshall, Georgia Southern, Appy or Western Kentucky when was the last time they were top ten FBS. I doubt that 1 person out of 10 could tell you the conference these schools are in. So much for exposure.
Is an obscure minor bowl any better then a minor football championship? Most schools already in a power 5 conference, get very little exposure.
The separation between the Power 5 and the FBS pretenders will continue to grow and at some point there will be a break. That is when YSU must be ready to take advantage. YSU, Akron, Kent or NDSU will never make the FBS play-offs. NDSU would be crazy to move up, they have a great thing going.
I have very little interest in our current league, great conference just no interest in most of the schools. At some point YSU will be playing in a league with some of the current MAC schools, just a matter of when and at what level.
App State was ranked top 25 at one point this year. Almost beat Penn State in week 1.
YSU is never moving up due to money. Akron and Kent's programs are irrelevant. Toledo, BGSU are decent programs. Nothing serious...
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I'll take the MAC as is over where we are.
I don't like where we are either.
1. different conferences for football and other sports doesn't work for rivalries.
2. playing in the "Dakota League" is way bad on travel. We are by FAR the furthest East team in the MVFC, and it kills us on travel and reduces "away visitors".
3 MAC sucks because we would be second tier every year, in almost every sport. Nobody wants to lose all the time.
4. Cost to compete in MAC is way beyond YSU. Take a look at Akron budget mess.
5 OVC is only conference that makes sense for YSU!