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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: The YO Show on October 20, 2018, 06:49:19 PM
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Did not expect to be up on SD 19 to 0 in the 1st quarter... We are dominating at the line and... Grant gonya is kicking the PAT instead of Kennedy. Wow.
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Come on fellows let's talk about some of these positives!! Playoffs here we come😀
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Perfect storm here. Get a passing team like South Dakota in these conditions and it's great news for YSU.
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Looks like we both started game day threads right at around the same time (I was first though ;) )
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LT stinks.
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This about to become a loss.
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Wow. The offense just completely fell apart
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Not happy that we left SD back in this, but have to give the D some credit Simmons is 9-23 for 76 yards..Several short yardage stops on running plays have been key
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D-Line playing well.
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Side note: Get rid of the Penguin at midfield and replace with a big block Y
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Mays is in. Did van gorder get pulled or hurt?
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Mays is in. Did van gorder get pulled or hurt?
Both.
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Watching the Mooney offense is excruciating.
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Watching the Mooney offense is excruciating.
The SD defense was God awful..in for a rude awakening the last three games with this style of offense
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Watching the Mooney offense is excruciating.
The SD defense is God awful..in for a rude awakening the last three games with this style of offense
Rude awaking? We’re a 3-4 team that only managed 7 points last game. It’s
Not like we’ve been coasting through weak defenses all year.
Can we please just be happy with a solid conference win?
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I am glad we won. But, wtf if Gordy was hurt would Nate keep running the Ball and taking hit after hit plain Forrest Gump stupid. We are still in track for 4 wins!
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I am glad we won. But, wtf if Gordy was hurt would Nate keep running the Ball and taking hit after hit plain Forrest Gump stupid. We are still in track for 4 wins!
Agree, I’m always so happy when gummy runs out of bounds...
Sure Mays is tough but he does take a lot of unnecessary hits
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Amazing, a nice win and some folks still find negative things to post.
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Nice win ...Hail Youngstown !
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a win is better than a loss,
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I wasn’t being negative stating a fact. Nathan runs himself till he gets hurt. Has he not been injured last year, the year before etc and this year. I am glad we won.
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Perfect storm here. Get a passing team like South Dakota in these conditions and it's great news for YSU.
Hey Chief, and I quote "This will be another L. The players have quit on the coaches."
Your weather comment not withstanding, your "quite on the coaches" comment is brought into grave question.
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Did not expect to be up on SD 19 to 0 in the 1st quarter... We are dominating at the line and... Grant gonya is kicking the PAT instead of Kennedy. Wow.
Perhaps "attempting to kick the PATs" would be better wording?
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Perfect storm here. Get a passing team like South Dakota in these conditions and it's great news for YSU.
Hey Chief, and I quote "This will be another L. The players have quit on the coaches."
Your weather comment not withstanding, your "quite on the coaches" comment is brought into grave question.
Let's not act like it's all sunshine and roses here now. We beat a team who loves to throw the ball all game long in a torrential downpour with 40 mph winds all game long. Got lucky. This team still stinks.
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Look, Whether it was planned or injury ...placing Mays in the game is the only thing that brought the offense back into the game. We were sunk & would likely have lost that game. For the 3rd time this season, our offense was figured out early in the second quarter & shut down; just like every other big-12 offense. Congrats on the line making some strides on run blocking (nice misdirection), but VG was running for his life from Q2, until he left the game. Thanks for finally changing up that play with #26. I like it, but it is not going to work if you do not run a couple of keepers and pass out of the pattern (can we hand off instead of pitch, at least when the ball is soaked?).
I would hope that they will let Mays throw the next time he is in. USD was a much worse team than I expected. Their QB could not find his rhythm. We have another W, let's hope it is not the last.
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Was a good win. Finally committed to the run, and did what we do best. I think we win again on Saturday, and that will be our last win, maybe outside shot at Beating UNI. Coaching is the biggest reason for this disaster season. Crist way in over his head calling plays.
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Look, Whether it was planned or injury ...placing Mays in the game is the only thing that brought the offense back into the game. We were sunk & would likely have lost that game. For the 3rd time this season, our offense was figured out early in the second quarter & shut down; just like every other big-12 offense. Congrats on the line making some strides on run blocking (nice misdirection), but VG was running for his life from Q2, until he left the game. Thanks for finally changing up that play with #26. I like it, but it is not going to work if you do not run a couple of keepers and pass out of the pattern (can we hand off instead of pitch, at least when the ball is soaked?).
I would hope that they will let Mays throw the next time he is in. USD was a much worse team than I expected. Their QB could not find his rhythm. We have another W, let's hope it is not the last.
Yeah that offense really came to life when Mays came in! They scored 0 points lol. C'mon now....
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Look, Whether it was planned or injury ...placing Mays in the game is the only thing that brought the offense back into the game. We were sunk & would likely have lost that game. For the 3rd time this season, our offense was figured out early in the second quarter & shut down; just like every other big-12 offense. Congrats on the line making some strides on run blocking (nice misdirection), but VG was running for his life from Q2, until he left the game. Thanks for finally changing up that play with #26. I like it, but it is not going to work if you do not run a couple of keepers and pass out of the pattern (can we hand off instead of pitch, at least when the ball is soaked?).
I would hope that they will let Mays throw the next time he is in. USD was a much worse team than I expected. Their QB could not find his rhythm. We have another W, let's hope it is not the last.
I think that Mays gave the Offense the big spark that it needed, maybe we did not realize any points but it was able to chew up a lot of time.
Nice to see Joe A. get a couple of carries, I think that he brings a spark when he comes in.
For Mays sake I wish the would let him throw a safe pass now and then.
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C'mon guys! Mays is like running the wildcat with a RB taking the snap. It can definitely be a nice change of pace, and be effective in the short run. It was definitely that on Saturday night. But that can't be your offense in these days of the spread. Frankly I'm not sure we would have won Saturday without Mays eating up a lot of time and making several very important 1st downs. Nathan is a change of pace from MVG, but certainly NOT a potential replacement.
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Look, Whether it was planned or injury ...placing Mays in the game is the only thing that brought the offense back into the game. We were sunk & would likely have lost that game. For the 3rd time this season, our offense was figured out early in the second quarter & shut down; just like every other big-12 offense. Congrats on the line making some strides on run blocking (nice misdirection), but VG was running for his life from Q2, until he left the game. Thanks for finally changing up that play with #26. I like it, but it is not going to work if you do not run a couple of keepers and pass out of the pattern (can we hand off instead of pitch, at least when the ball is soaked?).
I would hope that they will let Mays throw the next time he is in. USD was a much worse team than I expected. Their QB could not find his rhythm. We have another W, let's hope it is not the last.
Yeah that offense really came to life when Mays came in! They scored 0 points lol. C'mon now....
With the handcuffs on Mays (Obvious) that was not the intent. We needed to chew clock and ignite the run game. Otherwise we would have definitely lost that game ...no question about it. Just like SDSU. Our new found Big-12 offense is not working beyond a couple of sets in Q1 and maybe one set after the half. The difference between this game and SDSU is that we could not put up the same number of points in Q1 against SDSU, as we did against USD. We had only one TD in 3-quarters of football ...most of which was under the command of VG. That TD was by the defense.
Cheif, I am not saying replace VG with Mays (unless Mays is in the running for next year); but in order for he, or any QB to be effective, they must be allowed to utilize all facets of the offense, including the pass.
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Yeah that offense really came to life when Mays came in! They scored 0 points lol. C'mon now....
With the handcuffs on Mays (Obvious) that was not the intent. We needed to chew clock and ignite the run game. Otherwise we would have definitely lost that game ...no question about it. Just like SDSU. Our new found Big-12 offense is not working beyond a couple of sets in Q1 and maybe one set after the half. The difference between this game and SDSU is that we could not put up the same number of points in Q1 against SDSU, as we did against USD. We had only one TD in 3-quarters of football ...most of which was under the command of VG. That TD was by the defense.
Cheif, I am not saying replace VG with Mays (unless Mays is in the running for next year); but in order for he, or any QB to be effective, they must be allowed to utilize all facets of the offense, including the pass.
1AA, what you say about only needing to run clock and maintain possession last Saturday is 100% on point. I was praying he didn't chuck one downfield. Btu 1/2 because we didn't need to pass and 1/2 because he can't pass! As I said, Mays is like running the Wildcat. Effective in the short run, not so much for an extended period of time.
Anybody know the status of MVG for Saturday afternoon?
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I am not so certain I agree with you on Mays passing. His only significant playing time came in 2017-18:
In the air:
8 Games, 75 of 113 passing for 905 yards. 113.1 per game and a rating of 143.6 with 4-INT's. 4TDs
With his feet:
Averaged 9.1 rushes per game, for 75-yards. Also had 4TD's and 2 fumbles.
He had 3 times as many yards passing, as he did running. Actually it was a less than balanced attack that favored the pass, in which Mays was highly efficient.
It is really the matter of making a commitment to using Mays, and opening up the play book. To me there is not doubt that VG has grown and can throw deeper/tighter patterns into traffic, but Mays offers quite a bit of unique skills himself. How far would Mays have advanced this year ...I do not know... but I still think he demonstrated last year that he can lead this team.
Where VG has the distinct advantage is keeping the pass-play alive (with his feet) after the snap, and this is where our line is failing.
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I am not so certain I agree with you on Mays passing. His only significant playing time came in 2017-18:
In the air:
8 Games, 75 of 113 passing for 905 yards. 113.1 per game and a rating of 143.6 with 4-INT's. 4TDs
With his feet:
Averaged 9.1 rushes per game, for 75-yards. Also had 4TD's and 2 fumbles.
He had 3 times as many yards passing, as he did running. Actually it was a less than balanced attack that favored the pass, in which Mays was highly efficient.
It is really the matter of making a commitment to using Mays, and opening up the play book. To me there is not doubt that VG has grown and can throw deeper/tighter patterns into traffic, but Mays offers quite a bit of unique skills himself. How far would Mays have advanced this year ...I do not know... but I still think he demonstrated last year that he can lead this team.
Where VG has the distinct advantage is keeping the pass-play alive (with his feet) after the snap, and this is where our line is failing.
I am not going to get in another text argument with you over May's ability to pass. Even with the stats you quote from last year, he was below average for YSU for the season and well behind Ricky Davis throwing, and the year before he was also below average and WAY behind Hunter Wells.
You don't need to go past the coaching staff to suggest I'm closer to accurate that your confidence in Mays. I think he's a great kid and I wish him well, I just don't want to depend on his arm in a football game.
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Not behind Davis in the slightest (more accurate) ....definitely behind Wells. In any case, Bo does not seem to want Mays; so it's time for the other three, unless Bo is going to wait for another loss to be certain of our post-season fate. Also, I hope we do not blow Gonya's red-shirt.
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Not behind Davis in the slightest (more accurate) ....definitely behind Wells. In any case, Bo does not seem to want Mays; so it's time for the other three, unless Bo is going to wait for another loss to be certain of our post-season fate. Also, I hope we do not blow Gonya's red-shirt.
RD QB rating 209, NM QB rating 143 Mays ints vs TDs 4/4 Davis 1/5 That is a pretty big difference to me. For crying out loud, we're not comparein them to Tom Brady, it's comparing Mays to Davis! That's like saying who is the best high jumper between you and me! (I assume you, but my best guess is we are both POOR!)
What you note about Bo and Nathan is obviously true (that's why I pointed it out) It is also obvious that Bo would prefer a QB that could run vs a drop back like Wells, that is why Montgomery is gone (Shane not VG). So if Mays can run and Bo still doesn't want him, they guess what the coach thinks about his ability to throw?
I don't get the Gonya comment. He will have 3 years left after this, and he doesn't remind me of Wilkins or McFadden by a LONG shot just yet! Don't forget, missing his first TWO extra points left that game in question until the pick 6 in the 4th quarter.
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As to Gonya, no use blowing his red shirt now. Although I noticed his dad (Curt) was there for the 1992 celebration, so maybe Bo was doing the right thing. At least I am pretty sure that is his father.
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I noticed the S.D. coaches changed their defense up when Mays entered the game. They thought Mays was more of a threat with finding receivers downfield especially on the RPO'S then Vangorder. Bo has been giving V.G. heck for this all year. We still lack a quarterback that can sit in the pocket and survey the field with much success and decision making like needed. Our last three opponents will shut down our running game completely and force us to beat them through the air