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Title: Fire Bo
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2018, 05:17:31 PM
Bye. Done.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 01, 2018, 05:32:09 PM
Bring back Montgomery
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: peteonastick on September 01, 2018, 05:37:59 PM
Goodbye. Pathetic. Fire him now.

Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
No excuse. Just none. Pathetic. Go coach Mooney you bum.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: peteonastick on September 01, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
He’s making excuses. Fire his ass now!
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: goodnews on September 01, 2018, 05:56:53 PM
Other than an ego of working for Pelini, the assistant coaches brong ZERO to program....
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: YSU1 on September 01, 2018, 07:00:45 PM
This does not help Pelini's resume.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: IAA Fan on September 01, 2018, 08:19:30 PM
I would not be disappointed if Strollo asked Bo for his resignation, but I would be surprised. We could bring back coach Carl and coach Shane & use the money we pay Bo, but those two would never leave where they are now ...at least not this abruptly. I am going to stay calm as possible.

Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: YSUinBoston on September 01, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
I get the anger....but you know he isn't getting fired.  That let Meathead Wolford get 4 full years and countless embarrassing losses.  Bo is borderline teflon around here.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: penguinpower on September 01, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
Unfortunately, who are you going to get that is better? We have a shoestring budget for coaches.  Our facilities recruit and the stadium needs a facelift.  He should have had them ready.  This is as much on coaching as it is the players.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2018, 11:39:17 PM
Bo's on shorter of a leash than you would believe. He's been upsetting some people higher up with his attitude and unwillingness to do some things. Absolutely pathetic today but that's normal for a Pelini coached team. No fundamentals, doing all the little things wrong and not doing them at all.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: peteonastick on September 02, 2018, 08:42:00 AM
“I thought we were ready to play and obviously, I was wrong. The comedy of errors that happened out there is hard to describe,” Pelini said. “It was one guy after another. [Butler] executed and made good plays.

I heard it for the last two weeks...we are ready, great team atmosphere, etc...He can't be that bad at figuring out if his team is ready or not?  Maybe he didn't put enough time into it to figure it out?  Not good!

Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
Pathetic. The program will never be the same.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: The YO Show on September 02, 2018, 03:45:13 PM
“I thought we were ready to play and obviously, I was wrong. The comedy of errors that happened out there is hard to describe,” Pelini said. “It was one guy after another. [Butler] executed and made good plays.

I heard it for the last two weeks...we are ready, great team atmosphere, etc...He can't be that bad at figuring out if his team is ready or not?  Maybe he didn't put enough time into it to figure it out?  Not good!

I was just commenting in another thread how incredulous it is to hear the players saying they weren't going to meetings and doing the little things, yet the HC last week said we were and we were ready and he knows how to prepare. Crazy to see
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on September 02, 2018, 04:23:55 PM
“I thought we were ready to play and obviously, I was wrong. The comedy of errors that happened out there is hard to describe,” Pelini said. “It was one guy after another. [Butler] executed and made good plays.

I heard it for the last two weeks...we are ready, great team atmosphere, etc...He can't be that bad at figuring out if his team is ready or not?  Maybe he didn't put enough time into it to figure it out?  Not good!

I was just commenting in another thread how incredulous it is to hear the players saying they weren't going to meetings and doing the little things, yet the HC last week said we were and we were ready and he knows how to prepare. Crazy to see

Yes... that disconnect is pretty concerning. But honestly with the talent gap we should have against a non scholly team i still find it hard to believe lack of focus or preparation would lead to a loss. We should be able to beat a team like butler playing a very vanilla defense and running 5 offensive plays. I don’t know who to blame at this point
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: guins4dayz on September 04, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
Just someone who came here to tell you when he was hired returning to say.......

I told you so.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 15, 2018, 09:14:53 AM
Carl Pelini has just been named the interim head coach at Bowling Green..Stay tuned!!
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on October 15, 2018, 09:26:21 AM
  We have had three mediocre hires since Tressel left.  It hasn't worked, thats on Strollo. However, Strollo will not fire Bo, even if we go don't win another game the rest of the season.  It is comical that anyone thinks YSU would hire Carl Pelini as head coach, after firing his brother.   Carl will not be the next head coach at Bowling Green.  They will do a search and clean house.   Carl could survive as D coordinator if new coach wants him.

 Our next coach should be younger, come from a successful program, either as a head coach at D-2, or D-3, or a coordinator at D-1.  If he is successful, he will be gone in five years to a bigger program.  We should be a stepping up for a younger coach.  Tressel was exception, staying 15 years.

It was funny listening on the radio on Saturday, Strollo interviewed at halftime, talking about volleyball, track, on and on.   No one cares.  At this level you need to win in either football or basketball. 



 
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 15, 2018, 10:05:41 AM
There is a good chance Bo is the head football coach in waiting for BGSU..Carl would remain as DC
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 15, 2018, 10:21:55 AM
I'm sure D'Alesio will be named coach in waiting here.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on October 15, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
 Bo Pelini next coach at Bowling Green?   What has he done here to earn that job.  By the end of the year he will be under .500 in conference play, lost to Butler, our recruiting is a disaster, and the future of the YSU program is not good.  What young talent do we have?

 If BG hires Bo, they will get what they deserve.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 15, 2018, 12:05:28 PM
Bo Pelini next coach at Bowling Green?   What has he done here to earn that job.  By the end of the year he will be under .500 in conference play, lost to Butler, our recruiting is a disaster, and the future of the YSU program is not good.  What young talent do we have?

 If BG hires Bo, they will get what they deserve.
BG could care less what Bo has done or hasn't done at YSU. His number of years in coaching, success at Nebraska and the ability to recruit the Midwest would all be in his favor. The only reason Bo stayed this year was because the money was still flowing in from Nebraska. He will not sit around in the offseason coming off a record of 3 and 8 only to bring in a cool $250,000 next year Take the pay increase at the FBS level and earn the respectability again so you can someday coach at the P5 level
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on October 15, 2018, 12:38:01 PM
Football Fever, what did Pelini do at Nebraska?  No Big 10 titles, No Big 12 titles, no BCS bowl appearances.  Against the elite of the conference he not only lost, he got blown out.  He beat the bad teams.  He is also a pain the you know where for and AD and President to deal with.  He is a D coordinator, not a head coach.

 He lost to Butler.  In year 4 of a program, he should have YSU rolling, instead the program is a mess.  He is setting us back for years.  He has no chance to ever coach at a Power 5.   He will also not win at a place like BG, have you seen their scores this year?  Your comment about recruiting the midwest, is hilarious.  How did that work out for him at YSU?   Pelini also has publicly said he hates recruiting.

From Nebraska to YSU to BG, wow.   YSU is a better program and a better place that BG.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 15, 2018, 01:17:36 PM
Football Fever, what did Pelini do at Nebraska?  No Big 10 titles, No Big 12 titles, no BCS bowl appearances.  Against the elite of the conference he not only lost, he got blown out.  He beat the bad teams.  He is also a pain the you know where for and AD and President to deal with.  He is a D coordinator, not a head coach.

 He lost to Butler.  In year 4 of a program, he should have YSU rolling, instead the program is a mess.  He is setting us back for years.  He has no chance to ever coach at a Power 5.   He will also not win at a place like BG, have you seen their scores this year?  Your comment about recruiting the midwest, is hilarious.  How did that work out for him at YSU?   Pelini also has publicly said he hates recruiting.

Regardless of how it happened or where the program is now, he did take YSU to our first playoff appearance in a decade and first championship appearance since 1999. It’s still a pretty good resume line item. That will be in the first few lines of the press release after BGSU hires him
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 15, 2018, 05:52:45 PM
  We have had three mediocre hires since Tressel left.  It hasn't worked, thats on Strollo. However, Strollo will not fire Bo, even if we go don't win another game the rest of the season.  It is comical that anyone thinks YSU would hire Carl Pelini as head coach, after firing his brother.   Carl will not be the next head coach at Bowling Green.  They will do a search and clean house.   Carl could survive as D coordinator if new coach wants him.

 Our next coach should be younger, come from a successful program, either as a head coach at D-2, or D-3, or a coordinator at D-1.  If he is successful, he will be gone in five years to a bigger program.  We should be a stepping up for a younger coach.  Tressel was exception, staying 15 years.

It was funny listening on the radio on Saturday, Strollo interviewed at halftime, talking about volleyball, track, on and on.   No one cares.  At this level you need to win in either football or basketball.

I like the “young/ hungry” type, my vote is Vince Kehres from Mount Union, who took over the program a few Years back, Sure he took over an already winning program but I think Mount Union’s coaching tree speaks for itself in terms of putting out quality d1 coaches. Matt Campbell at Iowa state, Jason candle at Toledo, Alex grinch at Ohio State. All from Mount Union.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: peteonastick on October 15, 2018, 07:39:09 PM
Football Fever, what did Pelini do at Nebraska?  No Big 10 titles, No Big 12 titles, no BCS bowl appearances.  Against the elite of the conference he not only lost, he got blown out.  He beat the bad teams.  He is also a pain the you know where for and AD and President to deal with.  He is a D coordinator, not a head coach.

 He lost to Butler.  In year 4 of a program, he should have YSU rolling, instead the program is a mess.  He is setting us back for years.  He has no chance to ever coach at a Power 5.   He will also not win at a place like BG, have you seen their scores this year?  Your comment about recruiting the midwest, is hilarious.  How did that work out for him at YSU?   Pelini also has publicly said he hates recruiting.

Regardless of how it happened or where the program is now, he did take YSU to our first playoff appearance in a decade and first championship appearance since 1999. It’s still a pretty good resume line item. That will be in the first few lines of the press release after BGSU hires him

Let's face it...He went to the NC with Wolford recruits and one transfer from Nebraska.  Other than that he has been mediocre at best.  Youngstown people got all excited, as did I, about him coming here.  I remember reading all the Nebraska fans comment about him and wishing us good luck with his aloof attitude, bad PR, poor sportsmanship, etc..it is all true.  He hates kissing recruits butts and it shows.  He hates referees and they hate him.  The problem with Youngstown is that he is a Youngstown guy and they will put up with the antics...for so long. He has brought the program down.  His record speaks for itself. 25-18. 

There are so many problems with this program...from the schedule, the conference, the coaching, the administration..it is all coming to a head and something has to pop!  Tailgating is the only thing keeping me interested in YSU at this point. 
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 15, 2018, 08:31:32 PM
Football Fever, what did Pelini do at Nebraska?  No Big 10 titles, No Big 12 titles, no BCS bowl appearances.  Against the elite of the conference he not only lost, he got blown out.  He beat the bad teams.  He is also a pain the you know where for and AD and President to deal with.  He is a D coordinator, not a head coach.

 He lost to Butler.  In year 4 of a program, he should have YSU rolling, instead the program is a mess.  He is setting us back for years.  He has no chance to ever coach at a Power 5.   He will also not win at a place like BG, have you seen their scores this year?  Your comment about recruiting the midwest, is hilarious.  How did that work out for him at YSU?   Pelini also has publicly said he hates recruiting.

Regardless of how it happened or where the program is now, he did take YSU to our first playoff appearance in a decade and first championship appearance since 1999. It’s still a pretty good resume line item. That will be in the first few lines of the press release after BGSU hires him

Let's face it...He went to the NC with Wolford recruits and one transfer from Nebraska.  Other than that he has been mediocre at best.  Youngstown people got all excited, as did I, about him coming here.  I remember reading all the Nebraska fans comment about him and wishing us good luck with his aloof attitude, bad PR, poor sportsmanship, etc..it is all true.  He hates kissing recruits butts and it shows.  He hates referees and they hate him.  The problem with Youngstown is that he is a Youngstown guy and they will put up with the antics...for so long. He has brought the program down.  His record speaks for itself. 25-18. 

There are so many problems with this program...from the schedule, the conference, the coaching, the administration..it is all coming to a head and something has to pop!  Tailgating is the only thing keeping me interested in YSU at this point.

Oh yeah I don’t disagree. I was writing from the BGSU or outsider perspective who doesn’t know the situation. Also it was 2 Nebraska transfers ;)

Well as a crazy fan I’m still holding out hope they can turn this season around just a little. We’re going to be a spoiler team which could be interesting. Not good enough to be a good team but just good enough to ruin SD or Illinois states season if we play well and get some breaks .. so that  could be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: IAA Fan on October 16, 2018, 09:14:45 AM
Mt Union? Not that Bo is going anywhere (unless by his own choice) but how about someone that even knows what a scholarship is  ;)
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 16, 2018, 12:46:28 PM
Mt Union? Not that Bo is going anywhere (unless by his own choice) but how about someone that even knows what a scholarship is  ;)

Again, the Larry Kehres coaching tree has produced several high quality d1 coaches: see Campbell, candle and grinch. Also buffalo hired a coach straight from d3 and they are 6-1 this year.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: go guins on October 16, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
Mt Union? Not that Bo is going anywhere (unless by his own choice) but how about someone that even knows what a scholarship is  ;)

Again, the Larry Kehres coaching tree has produced several high quality d1 coaches: see Campbell, candle and grinch. Also buffalo hired a coach straight from d3 and they are 6-1 this year.
Kandrase, you are absolutely right on your points here.  The arrogance of some of these people regarding coaches with slightly different experiences baffles me.  Give a good football coach a job coach little league baseball or girls volley ball, and he'd win.  Leadership, motivation, studying, learning, adjusting those are the issues, not exactly the "same" experience.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 16, 2018, 02:49:09 PM
Not to mention the fact that The Massey computer rankings give Mt Union an 80% likelihood of victory over the Butler team that beat us.

https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=300937&t0=Mount+Union&h=0&s1=300937&t1=Butler

We’re in no position to dismiss non scholarship schools this year
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: go guins on October 16, 2018, 03:01:46 PM
Not to mention the fact that The Massey computer rankings give Mt Union an 80% likelihood of victory over the Butler team that beat us.

https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=300937&t0=Mount+Union&h=0&s1=300937&t1=Butler

We’re in no position to dismiss non scholarship schools this year
certainly not this year!  but this is about coaching and we should NEVER dismiss the abilities of coaches, at any level!  There is a hall of fame coach coaching in HS this season.  Bet on it!  I have ABSOLUTELY no idea who, but I'll bet there is a dozen great coaches out there honing their skills.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: IAA Fan on October 19, 2018, 05:00:05 PM
Guys this is Mt Union. Who cares? For crying out loud, you go from the single most high-profile coach in all of college ball (available that is) in BO ... to a coach of a team that is nothing short of prep ball. Those kids that were booted from OSU cannot play at YSU, there is no chance of success. You wish to go from #1 to #90 (on a scale of 1 to 100)? Could you at least look somewhere in the middle? We last interviewed a guy that is now the Special Teams Coordinator and DB's coach at UK. Both units ranked in the top-5 in the SEC right now. Native NE Ohio guy with Good NFL connections. Yet most everyone on this board laughed at him, while bowing to Bo. Not to mention head-coaching experience at a successful program. If he was still available why would you even think of a coach from a DIII school? If White does not get hired away, Hood could be open to another job. His only real knock is his age.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 19, 2018, 06:40:53 PM
Guys this is Mt Union. Who cares? For crying out loud, you go from the single most high-profile coach in all of college ball (available that is) in BO ... to a coach of a team that is nothing short of prep ball. Those kids that were booted from OSU cannot play at YSU, there is no chance of success. You wish to go from #1 to #90 (on a scale of 1 to 100)? Could you at least look somewhere in the middle? We last interviewed a guy that is now the Special Teams Coordinator and DB's coach at UK. Both units ranked in the top-5 in the SEC right now. Native NE Ohio guy with Good NFL connections. Yet most everyone on this board laughed at him, while bowing to Bo. Not to mention head-coaching experience at a successful program. If he was still available why would you even think of a coach from a DIII school? If White does not get hired away, Hood could be open to another job. His only real knock is his age.

We’re not just picking a random d3 coach, we’re picking a coach from the most dominant program in all of college football. Matt Campbell, from mount union turned Iowa state into a relevant program. Alex grinch, also from mount union did a great job as OSUs interim HC. Campbell frequently cites the mount union culture and values as key to his success. I like mount unions coach because he can help rebuild a winning culture at YSU.

Mount Unions coach has even been mentioned as a potential candidate for the BGSU job, are we really so high and mighty we deserve better coaches than FBS schools?
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: IAA Fan on October 19, 2018, 07:15:07 PM
You forget that ISU is his 4th stop since leaving Mt Union. He left Mt Union to be a position coach at BG. He can also thank Jon Heaccck (former Penguin) for a record year at ISU. Do you realize that (2 years ago) in 11 games vs. the Big-12, only one team came within 10-points of their season average points on offense against the Cyclones? Heacock came back to YSU after a successful stint as D Coordinator at Indiana to become our head coach. I mean all of you people were thinking we could land a HC from Nebraska, which was insanity and it came true. Now maybe we are not going to get a Big-10 coordinator, but this is certainly how we need to think. I am all for giving the little guy a chance, but not at HC. Unfortunately with the reputation of Mt Union, he commands a big salary ...more that his experience is worth. He is stuck there until a mid-level school can pick him up or he is willing to take a pay and position cut.

Again. Bo is not going anywhere, unless it is voluntarily.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 19, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
You forget that ISU is his 4th stop since leaving Mt Union. He left Mt Union to be a position coach at BG. He can also thank Jon Heaccck (former Penguin) for a record year at ISU. Do you realize that (2 years ago) in 11 games vs. the Big-12, only one team came within 10-points of their season average points on offense against the Cyclones? Heacock came back to YSU after a successful stint as D Coordinator at Indiana to become our head coach. I mean all of you people were thinking we could land a HC from Nebraska, which was insanity and it came true. Now maybe we are not going to get a Big-10 coordinator, but this is certainly how we need to think. I am all for giving the little guy a chance, but not at HC. Unfortunately with the reputation of Mt Union, he commands a big salary ...more that his experience is worth. He is stuck there until a mid-level school can pick him up or he is willing to take a pay and position cut.

Again. Bo is not going anywhere, unless it is voluntarily.

No I realize it was his 4th school, he’s done well everywhere he’s gone. My only point is that the school produces good coaches. Basically my entire rationale is that when looking at a potential Bo replacement (I also believe he’s only gonna leave voluntarily too) maybe we should look at the guy in our backyard who keep winning championships rather than a big time assistant who probably has zero experience leading a championship program. I want someone who knows how to lead a program, influence culture and recruit guys who may have been overlooked by bigger schools. Not someone with zero head coaching experience and who only knows how to recruit 4 and 5 star recruits. But it’s a matter of opinion. I respect your opinion IAA, and I still want Bo to stay, At least we’re interested enough in YSU football to have this discussion :)
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 19, 2018, 11:32:52 PM
Be careful with Kehres. Daddy built that program and has given him everything.
Title: Re: Fire Bo
Post by: Kandrase on October 20, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Be careful with Kehres. Daddy built that program and has given him everything.

Not a bad point. But I’d like to think Jr. learned enough to be a good head coach