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Title: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: Penguin Nick on July 10, 2018, 10:33:03 AM
I know it's summer but this site is absolutely DEAD.  Football season is just around the corner and there is no excitement at all.  Perhaps it's because we have a lousy non conference schedule that no one cares about.  Not even playing at WVU is getting anyone excited - this is sad.  So let me get things started and hopefully I'll fire some people up.  If we were in the Mid American Conference we would be excited for the start of football season.  We would have rivalries.  We would be where we belong - a perfect fit.  One conference for ALL sports.  The MAC is not dropping down to 1AA, we need to figure out how to join and make things work economically.  What say you?
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: ysuguins4 on July 10, 2018, 12:16:24 PM
I would rather the Guins be in the MAC also.  It would be great to play Akron and Kent every year, but unfortunately the economics don't make it feasible.  We would need a very wealthy alumnus to shell out the additional 10 million a year that it would require.  I believe at some point the majority of MAC schools will be forced to drop down to FCS, but not sure when that will happen.
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 10, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
Things will start to pick up on here once fall camp starts. It comess down to money and we don't have enough of it to sustain being in the MAC.
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: guinpen on July 10, 2018, 08:41:16 PM
I would rather the Guins be in the MAC also.  It would be great to play Akron and Kent every year, but unfortunately the economics don't make it feasible.  We would need a very wealthy alumnus to shell out the additional 10 million a year that it would require.  I believe at some point the majority of MAC schools will be forced to drop down to FCS, but not sure when that will happen.

Spot on
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: YSU1 on July 10, 2018, 10:10:36 PM
our fan base is too small for the MAC.  besides we can't beat teams in the sub-division.
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: go guins on July 11, 2018, 09:00:32 AM
our fan base is too small for the MAC.  besides we can't beat teams in the sub-division.
so is kent and akron.  they have huge financial problems.  the solution is NOT for us to move up, but for them to get real and move down.
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: Penguin Nick on July 11, 2018, 09:31:29 AM
Besides the extra 20plus scholarships and paying coaches more salary, what other costs are associated with moving up to Division 1A (FBS)?
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: go guins on July 11, 2018, 12:13:09 PM
Besides the extra 20plus scholarships and paying coaches more salary, what other costs are associated with moving up to Division 1A (FBS)?
Big issue is football attendance. Akron has huge issues with this and is forced to buy thousands of tickets for every game.  We are thousands below threshold also, so we would be doing the same drill as Akron.  FBS makes -0- sense for YSU, Akron, Kent, probably Buffalo.  (But does sound like the start of a great FCS conference with no trips to the Dakotas doesn't it?)
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: IAA Fan on July 11, 2018, 03:58:43 PM
Besides the extra 20plus scholarships and paying coaches more salary, what other costs are associated with moving up to Division 1A (FBS)?

Good question. The best answer that I can think of are additional requirements from the conference. The MAC sponsors Field Hockey, W Gymnastics, Men's Swimming and Men's Soccer ...which are sports that we do no have. AT first you can say "so whoct" and move anyway; but to properly compete for all conference trophy, you need to participate in all of these sports. They do not sanction bowling, so we may be forced to drop it ...mainly for scholarship reasons. There is also the loss of scholarship equivalents, which would hurt any FCS team moving up. There are also much more strict media requirements that we would only have been able to meet as of last year (TV lighting). There are much more in the way of marketing requirements, which can add up to quite a bit of our financial resources.
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: YSUGO on July 11, 2018, 09:05:45 PM
I keep hearing for 10 years that the MAC needs to move down.  Its not going to happen.   Sometimes I think we need to drop down to D2. 
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: go guins on July 12, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
I keep hearing for 10 years that the MAC needs to move down.  Its not going to happen.   Sometimes I think we need to drop down to D2.
Non scholarship 1AA would make more sense.  Taylor made for Pioneer conference with Dayton Valpo, Butler etc.
Title: Re: This site is dead
Post by: guinpen on July 12, 2018, 08:07:35 PM
I keep hearing for 10 years that the MAC needs to move down.  Its not going to happen.   Sometimes I think we need to drop down to D2.

May not be a case of some low end 1A schools moving down but rather the upper end 1A schools moving further up. Separation none the less.

D2 is not an option
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: IAA Fan on July 13, 2018, 08:23:46 AM
I have also said this before, but at least for me, weekday games (in the MAC) are terrible. I do not care that we are filling a spot on ESPN, I drive 3-hours to get to the games and could never make any weekday games. Also, people that work the next day are not really going to tailgate, nor will there be any real room because the school cannot afford to miss the parking space on a weekday with classes. Even if I lived close and worked 8-5, I am not going to tailgate for an hour or less...and if the game was on-the-road, I would be lucky to just make the game.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on July 13, 2018, 08:50:30 AM
I have also said this before, but at least for me, weekday games (in the MAC) are terrible. I do not care that we are filling a spot on ESPN, I drive 3-hours to get to the games and could never make any weekday games. Also, people that work the next day are not really going to tailgate, nor will there be any real room because the school cannot afford to miss the parking space on a weekday with classes. Even if I lived close and worked 8-5, I am not going to tailgate for an hour or less...and if the game was on-the-road, I would be lucky to just make the game.
But you need to keep in mind, you are more the exception than the rule (number of guys driving 3 hours to YSU home games can't be many)  At least in the beginning, the MAC weeknight games we reminiscent of Monday Night Football, where it was an "event" more than just a regular season game.  This was a boost for the MAC, no question.   
BTW, I love your  "I would be lucky to just make the game" when you root for a team that plays most of there away games in the Dakotas, Iowa, Missouri!   That's why, when any of these "filler threads" get started to fill the time between FB seasons, I always go for the more local conference potential match-ups.  We are missing a TON not having regional rivals.  And playing FB in one conference and other sports in also costing us in match up enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: IAA Fan on July 13, 2018, 09:38:04 AM
Yes I agree I am the exception with the drive for home games, but I am also closer to Miami and OU than the average Penguin fan. As far as these games being a big event... It could not possibly be any bigger than a good fall Saturday game at YSU. The missing component there there is to continue winning games. Factor in that most YSU fans would rather watch the game than freeze.

The better option is to try and schedule MAC games again (staying I-AA). The next thing is to see if Strollo is willing to go to 2 IA games, the second one being a MAC school which will not pay more than any I-AA team. Then petition the MAC to allow certain MAC schools to travel to YSU. I would be willing to bet that the MAC would would give consideration to in-state I-AA opposition. However, most MAC schools have no issue finding an extra power conference game, so there may be no interest from the schools.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on July 16, 2018, 09:08:14 AM
Yes I agree I am the exception with the drive for home games, but I am also closer to Miami and OU than the average Penguin fan. As far as these games being a big event... It could not possibly be any bigger than a good fall Saturday game at YSU. The missing component there there is to continue winning games. Factor in that most YSU fans would rather watch the game than freeze.

The better option is to try and schedule MAC games again (staying I-AA). The next thing is to see if Strollo is willing to go to 2 IA games, the second one being a MAC school which will not pay more than any I-AA team. Then petition the MAC to allow certain MAC schools to travel to YSU. I would be willing to bet that the MAC would would give consideration to in-state I-AA opposition. However, most MAC schools have no issue finding an extra power conference game, so there may be no interest from the schools.
A MAC school has NOTHING to gain from playing YSU.  If they win, "they should have won, they are 1A vs 1AA" and if they lose, "how could you lose to a 1AA school?"  No, we'll have to wait a few more years for 1A football expenses to crush a couple schools and then have a rational discussion.  Best thing for the MAC was a new level for the "power 5" conferences.  That would allow lower expenses: if the presidents had any sense (which they don't seem to have now)
BTW, I saw somewhere where some of the MAC schools payed pretty good for 1AA opponents.  Not true?
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: YSU1 on July 17, 2018, 09:38:04 AM
I wonder if Pelini will stay or go.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on July 17, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
I wonder if Pelini will stay or go.
He leaves after this season or next, one or the other.  He definitely needs another playoff year to get his name out in the media, but I expect one.   Even then, he can find 50 jobs paying a million more than YSU.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: IAA Fan on July 17, 2018, 04:39:45 PM
Yes I agree I am the exception with the drive for home games, but I am also closer to Miami and OU than the average Penguin fan. As far as these games being a big event... It could not possibly be any bigger than a good fall Saturday game at YSU. The missing component there there is to continue winning games. Factor in that most YSU fans would rather watch the game than freeze.

The better option is to try and schedule MAC games again (staying I-AA). The next thing is to see if Strollo is willing to go to 2 IA games, the second one being a MAC school which will not pay more than any I-AA team. Then petition the MAC to allow certain MAC schools to travel to YSU. I would be willing to bet that the MAC would would give consideration to in-state I-AA opposition. However, most MAC schools have no issue finding an extra power conference game, so there may be no interest from the schools.
A MAC school has NOTHING to gain from playing YSU.  If they win, "they should have won, they are 1A vs 1AA" and if they lose, "how could you lose to a 1AA school?"  No, we'll have to wait a few more years for 1A football expenses to crush a couple schools and then have a rational discussion.  Best thing for the MAC was a new level for the "power 5" conferences.  That would allow lower expenses: if the presidents had any sense (which they don't seem to have now)
BTW, I saw somewhere where some of the MAC schools payed pretty good for 1AA opponents.  Not true?

Are you saying to split the current FBS into 2 (making a 3rd level of DI) or are you saying to bring them into I-AA/FCS? If we split into 3 levels, YSU will have just as much trouble getting into the second level as they currently do getting into the first. Price will go up. Yes the MAC will pay for a one-and-done. However, if Ron Strollo wants to see hard core fans leave in droves, agree to a MAC school (accept maybe UT or NIU) with no return. I will not renew and I have not missed a home game (with the exception of my wedding and the birth of my grandson) since 1979. We were just talking last night. We have had the same seats since the stadium opened. The faculty were offered lifetime seats for $750 each or 2 for $1k (you still need to pay for the season) in order to help fund stadium construction. My father bought them and we have renewed every year.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on July 18, 2018, 09:24:30 AM
Yes I agree I am the exception with the drive for home games, but I am also closer to Miami and OU than the average Penguin fan. As far as these games being a big event... It could not possibly be any bigger than a good fall Saturday game at YSU. The missing component there there is to continue winning games. Factor in that most YSU fans would rather watch the game than freeze.

The better option is to try and schedule MAC games again (staying I-AA). The next thing is to see if Strollo is willing to go to 2 IA games, the second one being a MAC school which will not pay more than any I-AA team. Then petition the MAC to allow certain MAC schools to travel to YSU. I would be willing to bet that the MAC would would give consideration to in-state I-AA opposition. However, most MAC schools have no issue finding an extra power conference game, so there may be no interest from the schools.
A MAC school has NOTHING to gain from playing YSU.  If they win, "they should have won, they are 1A vs 1AA" and if they lose, "how could you lose to a 1AA school?"  No, we'll have to wait a few more years for 1A football expenses to crush a couple schools and then have a rational discussion.  Best thing for the MAC was a new level for the "power 5" conferences.  That would allow lower expenses: if the presidents had any sense (which they don't seem to have now)
BTW, I saw somewhere where some of the MAC schools payed pretty good for 1AA opponents.  Not true?

Are you saying to split the current FBS into 2 (making a 3rd level of DI) or are you saying to bring them into I-AA/FCS? If we split into 3 levels, YSU will have just as much trouble getting into the second level as they currently do getting into the first. Price will go up. Yes the MAC will pay for a one-and-done. However, if Ron Strollo wants to see hard core fans leave in droves, agree to a MAC school (accept maybe UT or NIU) with no return. I will not renew and I have not missed a home game (with the exception of my wedding and the birth of my grandson) since 1979. We were just talking last night. We have had the same seats since the stadium opened. The faculty were offered lifetime seats for $750 each or 2 for $1k (you still need to pay for the season) in order to help fund stadium construction. My father bought them and we have renewed every year.
You should be proud of your consistent support for YSU, I admire your commitment!  I have been attending regularly since 1967, but not nearly as consistently as you.  In fact, have whole seasons "off" with work, kids etc.
Yes, I am saying split what is now officially FBS into two.  The powder 5 conferences, and everyone else currently in FBS.  IE. the MAC the Mountain West etc.  That would allow the remaining FBS teams to lower expenses because they are not pretending to play on the level of the Power 5.  And I YSU definitely do NOT want to move up to that either.  We are barely able to maintain where we are now.   
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: YSU1 on July 18, 2018, 09:29:07 AM
espn3 hurts our attendance especially for out of towners.  I would rather watch the game on the computer rather than drive 3 hours round trip. 
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: Penguin Nick on July 18, 2018, 02:08:23 PM
go guins stated:
"Yes, I am saying split what is now officially FBS into two.  The powder 5 conferences, and everyone else currently in FBS.  IE. the MAC the Mountain West etc.  That would allow the remaining FBS teams to lower expenses because they are not pretending to play on the level of the Power 5.  And I YSU definitely do NOT want to move up to that either.  We are barely able to maintain where we are now.   

Two comments:  1st, the Mountain West and American Athletic Conferences are far more aligned with the so-called Power 5 than the weaker FBS conferences (MAC, Sunbelt).  There is no comparison.  Boise State, U. of Houston and Cincinnati (for example) consider themselves big time and do not relate to the MAC/Sunbelt, etc.).

Secondly, your solution basically already exists - it's called 1AA...now you want to have 3 divisions, which I do not think makes any sense.   
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 18, 2018, 11:35:56 PM
go guins stated:
"Yes, I am saying split what is now officially FBS into two.  The powder 5 conferences, and everyone else currently in FBS.  IE. the MAC the Mountain West etc.  That would allow the remaining FBS teams to lower expenses because they are not pretending to play on the level of the Power 5.  And I YSU definitely do NOT want to move up to that either.  We are barely able to maintain where we are now.   

Two comments:  1st, the Mountain West and American Athletic Conferences are far more aligned with the so-called Power 5 than the weaker FBS conferences (MAC, Sunbelt).  There is no comparison.  Boise State, U. of Houston and Cincinnati (for example) consider themselves big time and do not relate to the MAC/Sunbelt, etc.).

Secondly, your solution basically already exists - it's called 1AA...now you want to have 3 divisions, which I do not think makes any sense.   



FCS ;)
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on July 20, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
While I appreciate Penguin Nick's efforts to start any discussion, even if it is the old, time-worn YSU to MAC that we have been over a dozen times in the last few years, THIS IS BS AND WE ALL KNOW IT!!
WHEN DOES FALL CAMP START???
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: The YO Show on July 20, 2018, 10:40:09 PM
Has to be soon considering the season is 43 days away! (or really 42 days and like 1.5 hours haha)
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: The YO Show on July 20, 2018, 10:42:06 PM
Also, hoping someone on here can get to fall camp and we can see where the team is at. Not to sure what to expect this year. New coordinators, new QB, replacing lost starters. Could be an undefeated team or a 6-5 team. Just don't have any clue right now since there was no spring game (although even that is hard to gauge from mind you). Hoping fall camp starts to shed some light.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: Penquin68 on July 21, 2018, 10:00:29 AM
I have heard that the players report August 2.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: YSU1 on July 24, 2018, 03:53:18 PM
once the players report excitement will build. ;)
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 24, 2018, 05:25:23 PM
http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/meet-the-penguins-august4
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: IAA Fan on July 27, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
with 1st game on September 1 ...August 2 will be the first eligible day.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 27, 2018, 08:16:11 PM
Haven't seen less excitement for a football season in a long time.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: The YO Show on July 27, 2018, 08:49:21 PM
The problem is we have a lot of question marks. Hard to be excited when I have no idea what kind of team we have this year. Could go undefeated or could be 4-7. Who knows? Have some talent back, but you know we have some questionable areas and all knew coordinators. I would like to think odds are we are more likely to go 7-4 or better yet 8-3, but I have no idea.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: robmat2571 on July 27, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
4 star tight end Charles Reeves transferring to YSU from Pitt!  Good player!
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 27, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
Charles Reeves Jr from Pitt is transferring here. Eligible immediately. 6-5 280 pounds from Steubenville. Was a top 15 TE out of high school. Had an offer from Alabama. Played TE at Pitt but wonder if he'll play DE here.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 27, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
That's a grown man right there.


https://www.cardiachill.com/2018/7/27/17623986/charles-reeves-jr-transfer-youngstown-state-football-pitt-pittsburgh-panthers-pat-narduzzi-dismiss
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: Penquin68 on July 28, 2018, 05:51:32 PM
As I recall we have a tight end transfer from OSU also.  Not sure they will both stay at that position if they are strong players and both need to be on the field.  Good problem to have.

Any players from last year that have left the program; especially those that were counted on to start?
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: IAA Fan on July 28, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
As I recall we have a tight end transfer from OSU also.  Not sure they will both stay at that position if they are strong players and both need to be on the field.  Good problem to have.

Any players from last year that have left the program; especially those that were counted on to start?

Yu know we have had quite a few, most of the losses were posted on the board here. If I get time on vacation in a couple weeks, I am going to try and do a roster comparison from last year to this.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 29, 2018, 01:03:08 AM
None that were projected to start.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement - article from Warren Tribune
Post by: Double ET on July 29, 2018, 08:37:05 AM
The first YSU Football article comes from Tribune and not Vindy:


YSU is destination

More area players desire to be Penguins
YSU SPORTS
JUL 29, 2018

JOE SIMON
Sports Reporter
jsimon@tribtoday.com
 
 

Tribune Chronicle file photo / R. Michael Semple Youngstown State football coach Bo Pelini has succeeded in recruiting a large number of area players to the downtown Youngstown campus.

YOUNGSTOWN — It was getting dark as Dra Rushton walked around the campus of Youngstown State University as a sophomore in high school, and he suddenly got a visitor.


“(YSU President Jim Tressel) pulled up next to me on the golf cart, him and his wife,” said Rushton, a 2018 Liberty graduate who will play football for the Penguins. “He was just asking if everything was all right, where we were staying, do we know where we’re going. He’s just always there to look out for you.”

Thing is, seven to 10 years ago, that visitor might not have been so nice, and it definitely wouldn’t have been the school president.

Things are changing at YSU, and for the best.

From numerous campus renovations and updates downtown, to improved facilities and a wide-ranging curriculum, the campus has enjoyed a major facelift. Area athletes are noticing as well.

Along with Rushton, the Trumbull County Player of the Year in football, players from Girard, Cardinal Mooney, Ursuline, Austintown Fitch, Canfield, Poland, Salem and Beaver Local all joined the program during National Signing Day in February.

They’ll team up with another large contingent (19) of area players already at YSU. A university that once had a stigma as being a commuter school that students settled for is now becoming a place people look forward to attending.

“Everyone from around the area who’s like, ‘I’ll probably just end up going to YSU.’ It’s really not like that anymore,” said John F. Kennedy graduate Jacob Coates, a sophomore who picked football at YSU over a track scholarship at Penn State. “They re-did Wick Avenue, they’re putting up new apartments downtown. They’re trying to connect downtown to the main campus to try to give it more of a campus feel.

“The whole school is going in the right direction. Everyone’s starting to see that it’s not just a school to say, ‘Hey, I’m going to commute from home and go to school there.’ Downtown is becoming way more live. Everyone’s kind of catching on.”

Indeed.

Rushton, who also had several choices of schools, said he talks to people his age and younger about all the improvements YSU has made in hopes of persuading them to get on board. Aside from simply enjoying being from the greater Youngstown area, Rushton said he was blown away at the sports facilities and equipment the Penguins use.

“All the time people ask, ‘Man, why’d you choose YSU?’,” Rushton said. “I’m like, ‘Man, YSU is like any other D-I (school). We’ve got inside facilities. We’ve got outside facilities. We’ve got great coaches. You know, we’ve got Bo Pelini! We’ve got a great coach. We have the same opportunities as those Ohio States and all those other D-Is have.’ I always tell them it’s not about the big names all the time. It’s about exposure, working hard and you’ll get noticed anywhere.”

An old rival of Rushton’s couldn’t agree more.

Former Girard standout Michael Belcik is another Trumbull County player joining the Penguins. The speedy wide receiver said a big reason he decided to stay home was because so many friends of his, along with other local players, were making the same choice.

That wasn’t the only reason though. Belcik, born and raised in the area, said he’s always held YSU in high regard.

“To me, YSU has always been home,” Belcik said. “I’ve always been close to home, and I always drove past there as a child and looked at that stadium like it was an NFL stadium. Now I actually have the opportunity to play there. It’s an honor.”

The sudden influx of local talent resembles a similar time at YSU.

Back in the 1990s, numerous area players played roles in the Penguins winning four national championships under Tressel. His return, along with Pelini — a former Big Ten, SEC and NFL coach — is playing a role in a resurgent Youngstown.

“That had a big factor when deciding where to go for college,” Coates said of the two polarizing figures. “When I went on my official visit, all the guys were so welcoming, the facilities are great and the coaches as a whole are great guys, and they’re very, very good coaches. When I met one on one with coach Bo at the end of my official visit, he was easy to talk to, and overall he’s a good coach. I just kind of knew that’s where I wanted to be. It just felt right.”

The feeling seems to be spreading.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 29, 2018, 09:48:46 AM
Eh, that's a feel good story and all but many of these local kids who walked on or are given half schollies will make minimal to zero impact on the team. Bo likes his local kids tho but the talent has dropped off significantly.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: YSUGO on July 29, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
I agree.  Basically the locals are their to build depth on the back end of
Roster.  I feel we are in big trouble on both lines and at the skill positions.  I hope I am wrong. 
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ucfpengbuck on July 29, 2018, 12:05:12 PM
Chris Fitzgerald of East high commits to YSU





http://www.hudl.com/profile/8217417/Chris-Fitzgerald


http://www.vindy.com/news/2018/jul/29/easts-chris-fitzgerald-commits-to-pengui/

Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on July 30, 2018, 09:37:52 AM
I agree.  Basically the locals are their to build depth on the back end of
Roster.  I feel we are in big trouble on both lines and at the skill positions.  I hope I am wrong.
Soooo, do I read this as you have confidence in the LB's and kicking game?
As we stand now, we have -0- proven OTs and have lost our best DE and only proven pass rusher, so we should be concerned on the lines.  Hopefully the JUCO transfers bolster the OT position (God knows, they are big enough. Henry Yoboue is about the biggest thing I've seen on two legs!)  We will need Cook to fill his recruiting hype and Richmond to continue to develop at DE or I see issues on D.
I'm OK with the skill positions.  I think we are stronger at WR than the last few seasons, even though a couple of last year's guys are in NFL camps.  I think it is too bad Montgomery is "one and done" but I expect that one to be pretty darn good.  RB is talented and deep, TE is talented and deep. 
IMO anything short of a deep playoff run will be a disappointment.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: The YO Show on July 30, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
Ysu was picked 4th in conference preseason poll
NDSU
SDSU
UNI
YSU
Illinois State
South Dakota
Western illinois
SIU
Missouri State
Indiana state
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement - Vindy article
Post by: Double ET on August 01, 2018, 08:32:19 AM
On Vindy today:

Pelini is in final year of a 4-year deal at YSU

By Brian Dzenis

bdzenis@vindy.com

August can be a murky time in college football.

As teams start to report to camp, certain positions are unsettled.

At Youngstown State, the future of head coach Bo Pelini remains open-ended.

Pelini is in the final year of his four-year pact with the Penguins and the Youngstown native said he hasn’t had any talks with the university about his future.

“It’s something that when the time comes, we’ll talk about it. It’s something that I’m not really concerned with right now,” Pelini said. “It’s business as usual right now. I’m excited about this upcoming year. That’s what I’m focused on.

“There will be a time and a place for that.”

His $213,894 deal expires on Feb. 28, 2019. It’s the same time when Pelini’s previous employer, Nebraska, is done paying $7.65 million of buyout money after the Huskers fired Pelini following the 2014 season.


 
He’s gone 23-15 in three seasons in Youngstown, a run that includes a trip to the Football Championship Subdivision National Championship in 2016 and last year’s 6-5 campaign that ended with the Penguins missing the playoffs.

YSU athletic director Ron Strollo said he’s fine with waiting until the end of the season to broach the subject with Pelini.

“At the end of the year, we’ll have our evaluations and deal with it like we would any coach,” Strollo said.

From both an athletic and academic standpoint, Strollo is a fan of Pelini.

“We think he’s on the cusp of getting this program back to where we want it to be,” Strollo said. “Our hope is that he’s here for a long time and I hope we’ve made it a great place to work for him.”

PENGUINS EARN PRESEASON HONORS

Four Penguins players have made the Missouri Valley Football Preseason Team, the conference announced on Tuesday. All of the players were first-team selections and seniors.

Running back Tevin McCaster, one of two backs in the MVFC to top 1,000 yards rushing, was one of the three backs selected. He’s joined by center Vitas Hrynkiewicz and guard Gavin Wiggins as well as long-snapper Steven Wethli. The Penguins’ four selections tie North Dakota State for most first-team selections for offense.

The defensive preseason team will be announced today.

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Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: The YO Show on August 01, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
Wonder if Ohio State ends up firing urban if pelini will be in the mix for head coach?
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: go guins on August 06, 2018, 10:53:13 AM
Wonder if Ohio State ends up firing urban if pelini will be in the mix for head coach?
They would need a big time name coach, that is "available"  Bo fits both, not many do.
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ucfpengbuck on August 06, 2018, 07:45:39 PM
Wonder if Ohio State ends up firing urban if pelini will be in the mix for head coach?
They would need a big time name coach, that is "available"  Bo fits both, not many do.


Slim and none and slim is way down the road.   
Title: Re: Lack of Early Football Excitement
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 06, 2018, 10:32:38 PM
Wonder if Ohio State ends up firing urban if pelini will be in the mix for head coach?


No