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Title: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: YsuPride on February 24, 2018, 10:33:19 AM
Does anyone know any of our non-conference schedule for next year in men's basketball?
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on February 24, 2018, 12:32:09 PM
@ West Virginia

Western Michigan

I also think we are apart of a tournament
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 02, 2018, 11:10:34 AM
Vargo just tweeted Nov 9 we're also playing at Pitt. 85k for the game. Not a bad non conference schedule.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
Vargo just tweeted Nov 9 we're also playing at Pitt. 85k for the game. Not a bad non conference schedule.
I just wish announcing our non-conference schedules didn't sound quite so much like prostitution!  I wonder if the administration feels as much like pimps as it sounds to me.  Selling other's bodies for money.  We don't give a sh** if the MBB or FB teams get beat by 30-40, as long as we get our money! 
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: Penguin Nick on March 05, 2018, 09:11:33 AM
go guins, personally you're statement is false.  I look forward to an extremely challenging basketball schedule that eventually will help us get better players and that in the future perhaps we will win some of the games.  In football I am interested in the so called "money game" more than any game of the year.  Can't wait to go to WVU in September.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 05, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
It's all about money when you're a school struggling financially. Going to Pitt and WVU will be nice because they are easy drives. And you get paid for playing there ? No brainer. Instead of playing in some tournament in Utah.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 10:33:38 AM
go guins, personally you're statement is false.  I look forward to an extremely challenging basketball schedule that eventually will help us get better players and that in the future perhaps we will win some of the games.  In football I am interested in the so called "money game" more than any game of the year.  Can't wait to go to WVU in September.
My statement is a statement of my opinion, and therefore, it is true by definition!  Because you enjoy seeing YSU get the sh** kicked out of our players in miss matches more than I do, my opinion is NOT "false"?  Maybe you could say "IMO, I look at this differently", not YOUR STATEMENT IS FALSE."   

AS I remember, in the first 2 years of playing BIG (formally known as the Big 10) competition, we lost the best player on our team for the entire season early in the game.  Sacrificed for the financial gain of the administration.
Everybody would like to win one of those games, but the truth is, we are sacrificing  hard working young men for cash.  If you think the university is doing it because it will help recruiting, or on the off chance we actually win one, you are (IMO) pretty damn naive!
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 05, 2018, 10:42:02 AM
go guins, personally you're statement is false.  I look forward to an extremely challenging basketball schedule that eventually will help us get better players and that in the future perhaps we will win some of the games.  In football I am interested in the so called "money game" more than any game of the year.  Can't wait to go to WVU in September.
My statement is a statement of my opinion, and therefore, it is true by definition!  Because you enjoy seeing YSU get the sh** kicked out of our players in miss matches more than I do, my opinion is NOT "false"?  Maybe you could say "IMO, I look at this differently", not YOUR STATEMENT IS FALSE."   

AS I remember, in the first 2 years of playing BIG (formally known as the Big 10) competition, we lost the best player on our team for the entire season early in the game.  Sacrificed for the financial gain of the administration.
Everybody would like to win one of those games, but the truth is, we are sacrificing  hard working young men for cash.  If you think the university is doing it because it will help recruiting, or on the off chance we actually win one, you are (IMO) pretty damn naive!



Lol, do you pay attention ? Every non power 5 school does it. We are not Ohio State who produces millions and millions in revenue. Ever see the 500 people in attendance at our games ? That doesn't make money. We have to do what we have to do. Btw, Pitt sucks in basketball, we may beat them.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 10:59:19 AM

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Lol, do you pay attention ? Every non power 5 school does it. We are not Ohio State who produces millions and millions in revenue. Ever see the 500 people in attendance at our games ? That doesn't make money. We have to do what we have to do. Btw, Pitt sucks in basketball, we may beat them.
Yes, I pay some attention, and you are wrong, not EVERYBODY does:
NDSU 2018 Schedule
Cal Poly
North Alabama
Delaware (Homecoming)
South Dakota State (Dakota Marker)
Northern Iowa
Western Illinois
Illinois State
South Dakota
Youngstown State (Harvest Bowl)
Missouri State
Southern Illinois
Besides, didn't your parents ever tell you "if everybody else jumps off a cliff, are you going to jump also?" If it's a bad idea but "everybody" is doing it, then we should too?
You don't think most prostitutes in Youngstown don't need the damn money?  You think they do it for the love of sex?  They do it because they NEED THE MONEY.  You know what that makes what they do?  PROSTITUTION!  Same as YSU.  If YSU is driven by revenue only that why track? why golf, why baseball/softball, why the HELL bowling?  If the investment doesn't make send and the fans don't support the program, then I'd vote for no scholarships and Pioneer Football League membership rather than university administration sponsored prostitution!
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: Penguin Nick on March 05, 2018, 11:33:14 AM
Penguin Nick earlier stated:  go guins, personally you're statement is false.

go guins, you are correct in that my earlier statement should have read:  "I look at this differently"or "I disagree with you" as you have a right to an opinion (no matter how wrong it is  ;D)

As per NDS, no one in the Power 5 wants to play them anymore as they aren't worth the aggravation.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: goodnews on March 05, 2018, 11:36:32 AM
YSU Basketball needs better scheduling, better/updated facilities, more money and better recruits.  The logical solution is playing power 5 conference opponents that pay and Coach Calhoun is clearly doing that.  The entire University needs $$$$ regardless of academics or athletics. 

FYI NDSU Football is playing Colorado, Oregon and Arizona in future schedules.  They actually post their extended schedule years out.  I for one think it creates excitement and a clear vision of their future.  The athletic department at YSU makes it a big secret and I personally think that is a mistake.  If you want the community and Alumni to rally around and support the programs get them involved.  Its called COMMUNICATION and PR.... 

 
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
go guins, personally you're statement is false.

go guins, you are correct in that my earlier statement should have read:  "I look at this differently"or "I disagree with you" as you have a right to an opinion (no matter how wrong it is  ;D)

As per NDS, no one in the Power 5 wants to play them anymore as they aren't worth the aggravation.
Excuses excuses, excuses.  Always with the excuses.
NDSU is in FARGO ND, we have a bigger population base and no reason we need to make excuses. 
You are so busy trying to point out the "error of my ways" and making excuses for YSU you fail to look at the facts.
They are trading an away game for an extra home game.  (2018 7 home vs 4 away)
They get 307 for season tickets, (YSU 110) 
18000 tickets at 307 = 5,526.000
12000 tickets at 110 = 1,650,000 + 500,000 for WVU = 2,150,000 or 3,376,000 less than NDSU in revenue.  THAT is why they don't need to play $$$ games.  I do believe they are playing somebody in 2019 but in their case, probably for the sake of football not $$$ like the money grubbing administration of YSU sports. 
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 05, 2018, 12:15:34 PM
More money is always the solution; but if money was that easy to come by we would have better facilities, better coaches and better athletes? WRONG. If there was money to be had then other schools would have it as well and 13 of those (other DI schools in the state of Ohio) would have it before YSU. All that would happen is that the price of a ticket would go up. There is not enough money for schools to have more than one truly & consistently good major men's DI athletic sport. If program's still cannot get the funds to compete, then they need to consider lower level athletics (as YSU does in football). If Butler had as good of a football team as they do Men's basketball, then we would see their football team competing for a P5 conference crown (and corresponding FBS play-off berth) every year, instead of being "walked on" by teams with much less talent than YSU. Now you can be UConn, with stellar men's & women's basketball programs, but I would suspect that YSU would probably have at least a .500 overall record against them on the gridiron. If I recall we have recently beaten UConn in Women's tennis and baseball (at least).

This is why I have always said that we need to focus on Lady Pens basketball, where are dollars can go further. Our facilities are good, our scholarship availability is, at least, competitive. It may even bee too late. Right now there are monies available simply because of gender (Title IX). ESPN is dumping lots of $$$ into the women's Tourney and drawing attention already. Please do not respond with UNI or NDSU. UNI is the tops in combined MM football and men's basketball ...but they are far from the top DI football and men's basketball program. NDSU is the largest school in N. Dakota and the 2nd-largest school in a 4-state region. They are standing at the head of the line for government monies and local business support. Meanwhile (when I lived in Youngstown) my doctors and dentist proudly placed their OSU diplomas, attire and I guarantee you donation dollars ...for the Buckeyes ...our state's biggest and best team. It should also be noted that many federal educational dollars are given equally to each state. If it was not for women's athletics and targeted minority enrollment, YSU would be at the bottom of all schools in our 4-state region ... and if you take away new DI institutions receiving their initial monies and/or private schools, we probably are at the bottom. However, walking around YSU's campus, you would never know this. So be happy that you have Tressel and Strollo helping us with our impression, as this is what will help us in the recruiting and donation battles.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ucfpengbuck on March 05, 2018, 01:02:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VprQ4oOnu14


These arguments perhaps valid or not are secondary to Coach Calhoun getting a few recruiting classes in place.  Winning cures all.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 01:27:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VprQ4oOnu14


These arguments perhaps valid or not are secondary to Coach Calhoun getting a few recruiting classes in place.  Winning cures all.
Winning will help, but it definitely doesn't "cures all."  Honestly looking back is a good precursor to future actions.  Anybody see success prior breeding reinvestment?  So if we fill the bleachers,are they going to use the revenue to buy seats and dump the damn bleachers, or are the more likely to say "we are filling the place with the bleachers, must be good enough!"  IMO, success may be more likely to breed complacency than spur reinvestment with our athletic department.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 05, 2018, 01:34:51 PM
Calhoun is the right man leading the program. He's trying to change a culture that's never been relevant. Winning cures a lot, yes. But you need money games when you are mid major university like ours.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 01:52:38 PM
Calhoun is the right man leading the program. He's trying to change a culture that's never been relevant. Winning cures a lot, yes. But you need money games when you are mid major university like ours.
I agree that Calhoun is the right guy at the right time. and yes you need money, but it isn't ordained that MBB has to fund improvements to the facilities is it?   Does the school of business need to raise their own money for the Williamson School?  Did MBB pay for the Schottenstein Center at OSU?  Hint...it wouldn't be called the Schottenstein Center if they had!
Apparently the university does not see this program as important and I would disagree with them.  Who has to earn their own money other than MMB and FB?   Frankly, MBB can get a stud or 2 and compete with a number of major programs, but we have never had that stud since 1903 so wishing seems kind of hollow to me.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 05, 2018, 01:59:31 PM
Calhoun is the right man leading the program. He's trying to change a culture that's never been relevant. Winning cures a lot, yes. But you need money games when you are mid major university like ours.
I agree that Calhoun is the right guy at the right time. and yes you need money, but it isn't ordained that MBB has to fund improvements to the facilities is it?   Does the school of business need to raise their own money for the Williamson School?  Did MBB pay for the Schottenstein Center at OSU?  Hint...it wouldn't be called the Schottenstein Center if they had!
Apparently the university does not see this program as important and I would disagree with them.  Who has to earn their own money other than MMB and FB?   Frankly, MBB can get a stud or 2 and compete with a number of major programs, but we have never had that stud since 1903 so wishing seems kind of hollow to me.


In mid major athletics, you have to play money games to raise funds for things. Unless you have boosters and donors that donate millions of dollars. Which we don't have. It's just how it is. I do know Calhoun wants to renovate Beeghly and replacing the bleachers is apart of that.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 02:16:21 PM
Calhoun is the right man leading the program. He's trying to change a culture that's never been relevant. Winning cures a lot, yes. But you need money games when you are mid major university like ours.
I agree that Calhoun is the right guy at the right time. and yes you need money, but it isn't ordained that MBB has to fund improvements to the facilities is it?   Does the school of business need to raise their own money for the Williamson School?  Did MBB pay for the Schottenstein Center at OSU?  Hint...it wouldn't be called the Schottenstein Center if they had!
Apparently the university does not see this program as important and I would disagree with them.  Who has to earn their own money other than MMB and FB?   Frankly, MBB can get a stud or 2 and compete with a number of major programs, but we have never had that stud since 1903 so wishing seems kind of hollow to me.


In mid major athletics, you have to play money games to raise funds for things. Unless you have boosters and donors that donate millions of dollars. Which we don't have. It's just how it is. I do know Calhoun wants to renovate Beeghly and replacing the bleachers is apart of that.
I hear you, but I don't see evidence of it.  I see the Covelli Sports Complex, the Don Constantini Multimedia Center the Williamson School of Business, the new Student Success Center. and others.  Those are the programs the administration sees as important and where the administration has "guided" the donations.  It is obvious that included on that list is NOT MBB and Beeghley Center.
We have balanced the budget, doubled the endowment and spent -0- developing Beeghley.  Facts are.......
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 05, 2018, 02:49:01 PM
Calhoun is the right man leading the program. He's trying to change a culture that's never been relevant. Winning cures a lot, yes. But you need money games when you are mid major university like ours.
I agree that Calhoun is the right guy at the right time. and yes you need money, but it isn't ordained that MBB has to fund improvements to the facilities is it?   Does the school of business need to raise their own money for the Williamson School?  Did MBB pay for the Schottenstein Center at OSU?  Hint...it wouldn't be called the Schottenstein Center if they had!
Apparently the university does not see this program as important and I would disagree with them.  Who has to earn their own money other than MMB and FB?   Frankly, MBB can get a stud or 2 and compete with a number of major programs, but we have never had that stud since 1903 so wishing seems kind of hollow to me.


In mid major athletics, you have to play money games to raise funds for things. Unless you have boosters and donors that donate millions of dollars. Which we don't have. It's just how it is. I do know Calhoun wants to renovate Beeghly and replacing the bleachers is apart of that.
I hear you, but I don't see evidence of it.  I see the Covelli Sports Complex, the Don Constantini Multimedia Center the Williamson School of Business, the new Student Success Center. and others.  Those are the programs the administration sees as important and where the administration has "guided" the donations.  It is obvious that included on that list is NOT MBB and Beeghley Center.
We have balanced the budget, doubled the endowment and spent -0- developing Beeghley.  Facts are.......


Welp that would fall on Mr. Strollo's shoulders... Good luck.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 05, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
"Welp that would fall on Mr. Strollo's shoulders... Good luck."

SHAME ON YOU, CHIEF!!  PLEASE don't upset 1AA with a question about what Mr. Strollo  can carry on his shoulders!   Good grief, his kid is done, so who cares about MBB now?  Based on history, certainly not ..... I'm not going to say it, not me, I'm not getting 1AA upset!
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 05, 2018, 04:18:07 PM
You mean Beeghly ...the home of our women's basketball team :)  Oh wait their is also volleyball and swimming. No jock straps needed (legally) in those sports either. The 4 main contributors to this thread are over 50-years of age. It's a shame but that is MBB here at YSU and I have no issue with the money being spent. How dare we build the new rec room, the new locker room, the new floor, a new weight room, a second training center, a film and meeting room, at least 8 new classrooms and additional offices. Why you should consider yourself lucky. The Swimming and diving team dropped the men's program and their side of the place has barely received more than a coat of paint since the early 80's. Even though(contrary to belief on this board) YSU has spent over $7mil on Beeghly in additions and renovations in the past 20-years.

If you want to complain about bleachers, go to a Notre Dame or Michigan football game. You know the stadiums where a fat guy like me cannot even fit one of his butt-cheeks between the lines LOL. Butler is arguably the top team in the conference since we joined, yet the first time I was there (1970's) I do not even recall there being a chair-back seat in the house. Now I have been there more recently and I saw seats in the lower level,  with actually rather nice chair-backs. I am just saying that I have no complaints about Beeghly, a multi-purpose facility. I mean it is only the money spent that gives you the right to even say that we do not need the space in front of the pull-out bleachers.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 06, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
If you want to complain about bleachers, go to a Notre Dame or Michigan football game. You know the stadiums where a fat guy like me cannot even fit one of his butt-cheeks between the lines LOL.

1AA, is your argument against improving Beeghly "we aren't the worst"? 
Fact is we don't measure up with the 1st class facilities in our leagues, and I consider myself as being someone who deserves to be treated in a first class manor.  If you want my discretionary income, provide a 1st class experience and a competitive product.  For decades we have provided neither for BB and recently not for FB either.  (FB-one playoff appearance and virtually no improvements in a decade)  As soon as we begin to live on "how it used to be" we are sounding a death knell.  Step up or step out of the way!   Frankly it is time for your boy Strollo to step out of the way.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 06, 2018, 06:21:56 PM
If you want to complain about bleachers, go to a Notre Dame or Michigan football game. You know the stadiums where a fat guy like me cannot even fit one of his butt-cheeks between the lines LOL.

1AA, is your argument against improving Beeghly "we aren't the worst"? 
Fact is we don't measure up with the 1st class facilities in our leagues, and I consider myself as being someone who deserves to be treated in a first class manor.  If you want my discretionary income, provide a 1st class experience and a competitive product.  For decades we have provided neither for BB and recently not for FB either.  (FB-one playoff appearance and virtually no improvements in a decade)  As soon as we begin to live on "how it used to be" we are sounding a death knell.  Step up or step out of the way!   Frankly it is time for your boy Strollo to step out of the way.

No it is my way of saying we have to stop looking at only FB and MBB ...the later being a major drain on our resources that is not recouped. I am saying that funds are limited and most all funds given to Beeghly in the last decade have gone to MBB enhancements. That WBB (to a point), Volleyball, swimming, etc. have suffered much more and would get my approval for funds long before basketball. As I have stated before we will never be a basketball power, but we could really be something in women's basketball without going broke. Look at what we have been able to do in Track, with at first a nice increase in funds, which brought some assistants on board. Then the addition of WATTS has seen an explosion of dominance.

I understand that the average person only attends Football and Men's Basketball, but you cannot continue to think that is where all the $$$ needs to be. Just think about this. Title IX requires an equal number of women's scholarships, to men's. Additionally we have scholarship maximums on most Olympic sports that come no where's near the number of people needed to field a team ...thus requiring more women's teams in many cases...including ours. The Horizon League also dictates a minimum number of ladies sports. The NCAA also dictates that the number of sanctioned women's sports must be the same (or greater) as their male counterparts (exempting football, but not in total scholarships). In short we have to have the same number of sports (or more) for women as men. In addition we need to offer the same number of scholarships. Then we have to factor in sports that are "headcount" vs those that are not. I will not even go there as you have probably already stopped reading. It is not simply math that any idiot like Gene Smith can do. He has a staff just for accounting ...we have a single AD in a program that is almost as complicated as OSU's.

We have 65 NCAA-sanctioned scholarships on football that we have to match with a female athletic scholarship, but we are not allowed to simply go out and place them all in a single women's sport, because football is exempt and we have to fund 8 Horizon League women's sports. Do you realize that we only meet the minimum number of men's sports for the HL? That is 6. We tried to drop baseball and the HL said no because that would take away the League Auto-bid to the NCAA post-season. Have you ever been to the new softball or soccer field? There are a couple of first-class venues, but you probably have never gone to a game or match. Your attitude is simply to put all funds toward football and men's basketball because that is what "I" am interested in. Yet you somehow do not seem to realize that we need those 9 women's sports to keep those other two (FB & MBB) going. Yes it is wrong and many fought against it, but the NCAA was not going to have anything to do with and equal rights law-suit and they "caved". Until the time where some sense of sanity comes to college sports, realize that we need to put about $3 or $4 into women's scholarships for every dollar that we spend on men's scholarships. Now would you like to address perhaps the single largest donation in sports history that required it all to be spent of women's sports? LOL
One more for the road: the MAC has a men's soccer requirement & has 2 teams that have won the NCAA national title and/or played in the title game in recent history. Try going all over the world to get 1st-class players that speak enough English to stay in school and you know darn well they do not play for simply the cost of an education.  What women's sport do you wish to add and what men's sport do you wish to drop, assuming that we can. Try paying a coach $50k to play at that level. We will have 2 or 3 assistants that will be paid that much each. Still want to join?
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: YSU1 on March 06, 2018, 08:25:28 PM
Wagner is tv tonight.  their gym looks like a high school gym.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 08:43:39 AM
1AA, I can't "quote" you back, because of length!
Yes I have been to a softball game at what is a VERY competitive facility for college softball.  (our tailgate group has been very supportive of softball through the 50/50 drawing and we promised the players we would go to a game) However, that facility and the track help MAKE MY CASE.  The university steered a major donations to upgrade the facility, the same as I an suggesting they do with Beeghly.  Your argument reads to me as "nobody gives sh** about all these sports so the university needs to dump millions into them, at the expense of the 2 sports that people DO show interest in."  Does that make sense to you, because it doesn't to me. 
What makes sense to me is for the university to upgrade the facility to a competitive level, and USE THE DAMN THING!  Why don't we have a volleyball tournament? a men's BB tournament, a women's BB tournament?  Answer? Because we don't have a competitive facility and we don't have an aggressive sports administration to make anything happen.  It is all "woe is me" and "Nothing can be done" and "you don't understand my problems" and "NCAA rules" excuse after excuse. 
Quit making excuses for YSU and look at what NDSU has done in the worst possible city of Fargo ND.  Place is so bad they made a damn TV show about it!  Granted, they are head and shoulders above almost everyone in 1AA, but JMU isn't that far back.  You want to compete with them for national championships or move back to the Pioneer League and -0-  scholarships?  We have new BB facilities all over the MVFC.  MAKING GOOD HAPPEN IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE, but it is impossible for some.  We need to find who is holding us back and MOVE THEM OUT!

Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 07, 2018, 09:40:39 AM
Go, as smart as are ...you are just never going to let yourself get it. Football is a revenue-generating sport, MBB is not and never will be ...so it is not even worth my time. Think of our sports program as a puzzle. MBB is a solid brown piece that requires you to work skillfully and timely to find a place where it fits. Football is the big, pretty piece with a nice image on it and one can easily tell where it needs to go with just a glance. Even my 2-year old grandson can figure out where the football puzzle piece goes; but the rest of the puzzle requires a great deal of skill and time/patience to complete. Now if you are a brand new puzzle-builder (new DI sports program), it is very smart to build your puzzle around that big football piece ...but YSU is an established puzzle (sports program) with pieces (needs) that require time and patience.

Strollo is not in your way, he is the best facilitator this school has ever had. You have to know, as well as I, that if we updated/replaced Stambaugh, we would not have a football program in 5-10 years. During that time, Strollo would have to spend every cent just trying to keep up with our required sports needs that we would have a decade with absolutely zero dollars being spent on football and all of the enhancements, or the new facility, would be in shambles. No burned out light replacements, not turf upkeep or replacement, no repairs on seats, lockers, classrooms, etc. No media equipment or anything else. By then we would have low-paid, terrible coaches and a pathetic shell of a team with half-baked players, most of which would not be on scholarship.

In short, you want Strollo to build an adult puzzle (DI  collegiate football program) in the time it takes my grandson to build his 2-piece "Thomas the Tank Engine" puzzle.

One more thing, just because you do not understand the direction of our program, does not mean it is not going somewhere and that your AD does not know where it is going. Take a look at how many times the MAC conversation comes up on this board. Then take a look at the DI schools closest to us (all MAC), and their dominant sports. Then take a look at the direction of our facilities. Specifically, Stambaugh (a clearly 1st-class, highly expandable) Stadium, moving our baseball team from a Struthers B-league facility over to a 1st-rate stadium, completely enhanced Mill Creek Park Golf, a gorgeous new soccer stadium and an indoor Track & Field facility that is equally beautiful. Then take a look at Akron, Kent, UT and even a bit more distant and past closer MAC schools (Marshall) and their dominant sports. If you can see this, you will see that that this ship is sailing in a nice direction. One more thing, Strollo and Co (along with Tressel and Co) are working on campus enhancements that you and I will not be alive to see. So even though my grandson runs up and grabs the 5,000 piece Star Wars puzzle, you and I should know he cannot build it ... yet.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 10:01:54 AM
1AA you are the defeat-est here NOT ME!  For some reason completely lost on my, you have the perverse concept that nothing can ever be changed.  Because we are where we are, that is where we must forever remain. 
I would argue that at this point FB is not a "net" revenue-generating sport.  Certainly no other sport has a positive revenue stream, but it is NOT a damn business, it's SPORTS.  You do it for publicity.  OUR sports are generating far to much negative or at least -0- publicity.  When somebody goes to that HS gym that is Beeghly, does the fan walk away feeling like he has has a first rate experience or does he feel nostalgic for his HS? 

"he is the best facilitator this school has ever had"
Thanks, you are making my case for me.  We need a creator, a developer, a driver, an innovator, and you give me a facilitator!   Get him out of the way and watch what can happen!
Strollo give us a decade of uninterrupted LOSING football until JT showed up and brought in Pelini.  Stollo gave us losing season after losing season in MBB until JT showed up and here comes Calhoun.  What what can happen with leadership.  You can daydream whatever you want, but that's the facts.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: Penguin Nick on March 07, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
1AA stated:  Football is a revenue-generating sport, MBB is not and never will be ...so it is not even worth my time.

1AA, please explain to me once again why men's basketball "can never be a revenue-generating sport," because I easily see just the opposite.   
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 07, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
It is not worth the discussion, as your idea is very easy to understand & simply NOT possible financially. My idea does require some knowledge but it is not that difficult to understand. Simply move at the pace your resources allow. BTW athletics, especially DI are absolutely a business ...as is running a university (it is just a non-profit). Tressel and Strollo are two of the biggest business men in the Valley. How could you even think otherwise?

BTW, show me an original Tressel concept that is in place, or even under construction ...there are none. Well actually there are two ...we are in the Horizon (a conference change is something that he pushed for back as our AD) and we were able to finish the upper floor on the Lincoln apartments. Not his original idea, but he did go out of his way to bring in absolutely new funds to finish it. There is an example of Tressel doing his job as and AD and as a university president. Contrary to what you think I highly respect him for it. However in the years that Ron Strollo has been our AD, the list of accomplishments is longer than my arm.

BTW, am not a defeatist, nor do I believe anything has ever been close to unchanged since Strollo took over. In fact QUITE the opposite, as I have been trying to show you. So many people think that YSU could simply drop all sports outside of football and MBB and go about our business. Again with the Tressel brought us Pelini crap. Do you think Bo gave a crap who the president was when he called looking for work? Do you think he would have not called if it was someone else in the president's office (except maybe Shawn Eichorst  :)  )?
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 07, 2018, 10:53:25 AM
It is not worth the discussion, as your idea is very easy to understand & simply NOT possible financially. My idea does require some knowledge but it is not that difficult to understand. Simply move at the pace your resources allow. BTW athletics, especially DI are absolutely a business ...as is running a university (it is just a non-profit). Tressel and Strollo are two of the biggest business men in the Valley. How could you even think otherwise?

BTW, show me an original Tressel concept that is in place, or even under construction ...there are none. Well actually there are two ...we are in the Horizon (a conference change is something that he pushed for back as our AD) and we were able to finish the upper floor on the Lincoln apartments. Not his original idea, but he did go out of his way to bring in absolutely new funds to finish it. There is an example of Tressel doing his job as and AD and as a university president. Contrary to what you think I highly respect him for it. However in the years that Ron Strollo has been our AD, the list of accomplishments is longer than my arm.

BTW, am not a defeatist, nor do I believe anything has ever been close to unchanged since Strollo took over. In fact QUITE the opposite, as I have been trying to show you. So many people think that YSU could simply drop all sports outside of football and MBB and go about our business. Again with the Tressel brought us Pelini crap. Do you think Bo gave a crap who the president was when he called looking for work? Do you think he would have not called if it was someone else in the president's office (except maybe Shawn Eichorst  :)  )?


Bo is not coming here unless JT is president. Fact. Also, MBB can absolutely make money with the right man leading the program, which I believe we have now. A work in progress.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
1AA your concept of "revenue sport" and the separation of FB and MBB based on income is bizarre to me.
Last year we generated 460,000 in FB ticket sales and expenses of 3,800,000.  Please explain what "revenue sport" means to you, and I think we are looking at this from 2 different prospects. I'll bet you MBB is closer to generating revenue for the university than is FB. 
University sports is NOT a business, it is advertising and IMO your commitment to 2nd rate facilities is hurting the ad campaign.
Your concepts of "how things work" and "why they work that way" as as antiquated as Strollo.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 10:57:18 AM
It is not worth the discussion, as your idea is very easy to understand & simply NOT possible financially. My idea does require some knowledge but it is not that difficult to understand. Simply move at the pace your resources allow. BTW athletics, especially DI are absolutely a business ...as is running a university (it is just a non-profit). Tressel and Strollo are two of the biggest business men in the Valley. How could you even think otherwise?

BTW, show me an original Tressel concept that is in place, or even under construction ...there are none. Well actually there are two ...we are in the Horizon (a conference change is something that he pushed for back as our AD) and we were able to finish the upper floor on the Lincoln apartments. Not his original idea, but he did go out of his way to bring in absolutely new funds to finish it. There is an example of Tressel doing his job as and AD and as a university president. Contrary to what you think I highly respect him for it. However in the years that Ron Strollo has been our AD, the list of accomplishments is longer than my arm.

BTW, am not a defeatist, nor do I believe anything has ever been close to unchanged since Strollo took over. In fact QUITE the opposite, as I have been trying to show you. So many people think that YSU could simply drop all sports outside of football and MBB and go about our business. Again with the Tressel brought us Pelini crap. Do you think Bo gave a crap who the president was when he called looking for work? Do you think he would have not called if it was someone else in the president's office (except maybe Shawn Eichorst  :)  )?


Bo is not coming here unless JT is president. Fact. Also, MBB can absolutely make money with the right man leading the program, which I believe we have now. A work in progress.
Chief, you are 100% correct on both points!  MBB is MILLIONS closer to -0- than football, with a much more limited expense structure.  Calhoun is the right guy, this is the right time.  Get Strollo's excuse machine out of the way, update Beeghly and let's see what happens! 
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 07, 2018, 11:04:32 AM
1AA stated:  Football is a revenue-generating sport, MBB is not and never will be ...so it is not even worth my time.

1AA, please explain to me once again why men's basketball "can never be a revenue-generating sport," because I easily see just the opposite.   

Nick: it is simple. MBB can never generate the revenue to do anything other than survive, unless we dropped Football. If we move to a better conference, we could never compete (as we do in the top MM football conference) without a massive influx of resources that could only be achieved in the short-term (a MBB only private donation). That being said, what conference is going to offer us? I mean we only were offered the (then) MCC because they introduced women's sport programs and YSU had just finished off a sensational run and we had plans to increase our women's sports presence. We will be stuck in a 1-team tourney conference that has no chance of garnishing any NCAA post-season revenue unless Northern Kentucky lives up to their expectations and/or UWM hires another cheater at head coach and winning coaches do not last that long these days. Northern Kentucky will be gone very quickly as well.


-UDM: No football (Top Men's sport: Lacrosse. Also have Fencing ...not HL sanctioned)
-UWGB: No football (Top Men's sport: Skiing. Not HL sanctioned)
-UIC: No football (top mens sport: Gymnastics. Not HL sanctioned)
-YSU: Football (Top Men's sport: Football. Not HL sanctioned)

-CSU: No football (Top Men's sport: Basketball They also have Fencing there real top sport. Also have Lacrosse that is not HL sanctioned)
-IUPUI: No football (Top Men's sport: basketball. They also have S&D ...both ARE HL sanctioned.)
-UWM: No football (Top Men's Sport: basketball. They also have Men's soccer ...both ARE HL sanctioned.)
-NKU: No football (Top Men's Sport: basketball. They also have Men's soccer ...both ARE HL sanctioned.)
-OU: No football (Top Men's Sport: basketball. They also have Men's soccer ...both ARE HL sanctioned.)
-WSU: No football (Top Men's Sport: basketball. They also have Men's soccer & S&D ...both ARE HL sanctioned.)

Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
1AA stated:  Football is a revenue-generating sport, MBB is not and never will be ...so it is not even worth my time.

1AA, please explain to me once again why men's basketball "can never be a revenue-generating sport," because I easily see just the opposite.   

Nick: it is simple. MBB can never generate the revenue to do anything other than survive, unless we dropped Football. If we move to a better conference, we could never compete (as we do in the top MM football conference) without a massive influx of resources that could only be achieved in the short-term (a MBB only private donation). That being said, what conference is going to offer us? I mean we only were offered the (then) MCC because they introduced women's sport programs and YSU had just finished off a sensational run and we had plans to increase our women's sports presence. We will be stuck in a 1-team tourney conference that has no chance of garnishing any NCAA post-season revenue unless Northern Kentucky lives up to their expectations and/or UWM hires another cheater at head coach and winning coaches do not last that long these days. Northern Kentucky will be gone very quickly as well.
1AA your thinking is so out of date and your so much a defeatist to actually make me feel bad for you.  You should look at our numbers and the numbers of other programs sometime.  Sports is NOT about making money or even breaking even, and MBB is closer to making money than any other sport.  FB is the money pit, you have some 50 year old concept about making money at FB, and that just isn't so. 
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
Here are some numbers that shed some light on college athletics and money:

Here are some other findings from the NCAA report:

Median revenues generated by athletic departments increased by 3.2 percent from 2012 to 2013, while expenses went up 10.6 percent;
Of the 20 schools that made money, the median profit  was $8.4 million;
Of the 103 schools that lost money, the median deficit was $14.9 million;
The highest total revenues generated by an athletic department was $169.7 million;
The highest total expenses by an athletic department was $146.8 million.
According to the report, all athletic departments outside of the FBS operate in the red. In other words, only 20 of the 1,083 college sports programs in the nation are profitable.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 07, 2018, 11:52:59 AM
Here are some numbers that shed some light on college athletics and money:

Here are some other findings from the NCAA report:

Median revenues generated by athletic departments increased by 3.2 percent from 2012 to 2013, while expenses went up 10.6 percent;
Of the 20 schools that made money, the median profit  was $8.4 million;
Of the 103 schools that lost money, the median deficit was $14.9 million;
The highest total revenues generated by an athletic department was $169.7 million;
The highest total expenses by an athletic department was $146.8 million.
According to the report, all athletic departments outside of the FBS operate in the red. In other words, only 20 of the 1,083 college sports programs in the nation are profitable.

Although the exact numbers are interesting, the results are obvious and only support my opinion. The majority of FBS schools are the same. Okay so what are you saying about funds for MBB again? LOL. We do not have any $500k money games in MBB do we? There is no line waiting to purchase sponsorship signs in Beeghly and they are not getting $50k each. There are no companies renting loges at $50k per season in basketball. There is absolutely no justification to say that we can be anything other than a winning program (that is above .500) in a lower-level conference. I do believe that we can increase our money games and come closer to paying for ourselves in MBB, but we will never be anything close to what we are in football ...in terms of success unless we drop football and outside revenue (i.e. Penguin Club) can be applied to men's basketball. We will never support our facilities. FYI our football program more than pays for the upkeep and some enhancements of Stambaugh, along with some of our Olympic sports. That cannot be said about basketball outside of  a couple of years that we were part of a 2-deep conference in the men's tourney. Of course some of you would think it is okay to just go in debt to make it happen. Do you forget that a successful men's BB program would require a facility over twice the size of Beeghly? So why were you not out there complaining when they built the Chevy Center with no matching funds and it was too small? Heck if it was the planned 12-15k and YSu did become something in basketball, we could pay rent as we do in baseball.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: YSU1 on March 07, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
they have to first win and draw more than 250  fans before they do anything to beeghly
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Here are some numbers that shed some light on college athletics and money:

Here are some other findings from the NCAA report:

Median revenues generated by athletic departments increased by 3.2 percent from 2012 to 2013, while expenses went up 10.6 percent;
Of the 20 schools that made money, the median profit  was $8.4 million;
Of the 103 schools that lost money, the median deficit was $14.9 million;
The highest total revenues generated by an athletic department was $169.7 million;
The highest total expenses by an athletic department was $146.8 million.
According to the report, all athletic departments outside of the FBS operate in the red. In other words, only 20 of the 1,083 college sports programs in the nation are profitable.

Although the exact number are interesting, the results are obvious and only support my opinion. The majority of FBS schools are the same. Okay so what are you saying about funds for MBB again? LOL. We do not have any $500k money games in MBB do we? There is absolutely no justification to say that we can be anything other than a winning program (that is above .500) in a lower-level conference. I do believe that we can increase our money games and come closer to paying for ourselves in MBB, but we will never be anything close to what we are in football ...in terms of success unless we drop football and outside revenue (i.e. Penguin Club) can be applied to men's basketball. We will never support our facilities. FYI our football program more than pays for the upkeep and some enhancements of Stambaugh, That cannot be said about basketball outside of  a couple of years that we were part of a 2-deep conference in the men's tourney. Of course some of you would think it is okay to just go in debt to make it happen. Do you forget that a successful men's BB program would require a facility over twice the size of Beeghly? So why were you not out there complaining when they built the Chevy Center with no matching funds and it was too small?
WHAT?  "FB pays for the upkeep and some enhancements at Stambaugh"?  Seriously?  The salary amount for football is something like 3 times the ticket revenue and we only pay our HC a down-payment on his salary!  FB  LOSES OVER 3 MILLION a season.  It doesn't pay for sh**!  I swear, you must live in the 50's or something? 
"MBB, but we will never be anything close to what we are in football"  AGAIN you live in the 20th century.  What we "WERE" in football.  In this century we are a losing program with only 2 playoff appearance.  What is that to talk about?  How many conference titles this century?  Let me count . . . .  -0- ?  It was the 90's and JT when we had 7 playoff appearances and 4 championships, not this century!
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 12:29:24 PM
they have to first win and draw more than 250  fans before they do anything to beeghly
That's exactly my point....NOT!  IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME, isn't completely right, but you need to build it AND provide a competitive product for them to come.  This isn't an after the fact thing! You didn't get Tressel and you didn't win with Tressel without Stambaugh first, and at that time Stambaugh was about as good as it got in 1AA football.  My point has been through this whole thread.  Stambaugh is tired and Beeghly is tired and they both need significant upgrades to help provide for competitive programs.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 07, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
I-AA Fan still lives in the 90's in the good old boy days. Those days are over.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 07, 2018, 12:43:37 PM
The good ole boys are still here and stronger than ever. Don't kid yourself. Tressel and Strollo are your proof.

You say that we need to build the facilities and get a competitive products as if we can do that without $$$. yet you all believe that we do have limited funds. Am I missing something here?

BTW both Beeghly and Stambaugh are still nice facilities and neither one presently provides a product would justify a "significant upgrade". Stop arguing about the program's home and enjoy it. It is not "we are not the worst" ...especially in the case of Stambaugh ...we are FAR from the worst ...one of the best.

You guys are the ones living in the past, back when we had arguably the top football facility in the nation at our level. Well you are still in the top-25, probably in the top 20, yet you still complain. You do realize that there are over 100 DI colleges in FCS alone, with more at the FBS-level, that wish they had anything close to our stadium? If we would have enhanced Stambaugh at the expense of building WATTS would you be happier? Perhaps your AD knows what is best for the university.

I find it hard to believe that you are fans of a football team that was in the national championship just 2-years ago. For God's sake, just expect more from your coaches and players for now and be happy. Get out there and support your Guins!
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: go guins on March 07, 2018, 01:17:13 PM
The good ole boys are still here and stronger than ever. Don't kid yourself. Tressel and Strollo are your proof.

You say that we need to build the facilities and get a competitive products as if we can do that without $$$. yet you all believe that we do have limited funds. Am I missing something here?

BTW both Beeghly and Stambaugh are still nice facilities and neither one presently provides a product would justify a "significant upgrade". Stop arguing about the program's home and enjoy it. It is not "we are not the worst" ...especially in the case of Stambaugh ...we are FAR from the worst ...one of the best.

You guys are the ones living in the past, back when we had arguably the top football facility in the nation at our level. Well you are still in the top-25, probably in the top 20, yet you still complain. You do realize that there are over 100 DI colleges in FCS alone, with more at the FBS-level, that wish they had anything close to our stadium? If we would have enhanced Stambaugh at the expense of building WATTS would you be happier? Perhaps your AD knows what is best for the university.

I find it hard to believe that you are fans of a football team that was in the national championship just 2-years ago. For God's sake, just expect more from your coaches and players for now and be happy. Get out there and support your Guins!
You always talk about the "good old boy network" like it is negative.  It can be, but more often than not is is a positive.  We got Bo to turn around a decade of losing football through the GOB network! 
Everybody has "limited funds" but congress.  But we have untapped resources that could go to sports facilities if the "powers that be" say fit.  You seem satisfied with dropping from #1 to #25 in football facilities and the corresponding century long losing record, and I am not.  I know we can do better!  Expect much, get much, expect little, get little.  You are the little guy here. IMO, you need to expect more, not make excuses for less.
I support the 'guins.  In fact my concern is over an administration that IMO is failing to support the 'guins!  Our kids work their butts off and our athletic administration makes excuses for deteriorating facilities.  That is my concern.  You're OK with their inactivity, I am not.  We're done here.  Have a great day.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ysuguins4 on March 07, 2018, 01:48:10 PM
Again with the Tressel brought us Pelini crap. Do you think Bo gave a crap who the president was when he called looking for work? Do you think he would have not called if it was someone else in the president's office (except maybe Shawn Eichorst  :)  )?

Fan, next time you're at a Penguin Club function reach out to a few of Bo's longtime friends, and ask them if Bo would have taken this job if JT wasn't the Prez.  Their answer would be "no".
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 07, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
Beeghly is a dump. Hence why Calhoun is trying so hard to bring money into the program to update it.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on March 07, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
Again with the Tressel brought us Pelini crap. Do you think Bo gave a crap who the president was when he called looking for work? Do you think he would have not called if it was someone else in the president's office (except maybe Shawn Eichorst  :)  )?

Fan, next time you're at a Penguin Club function reach out to a few of Bo's longtime friends, and ask them if Bo would have taken this job if JT wasn't the Prez.  Their answer would be "no".

I know the answer to that ... "yes". The better question is would Strollo have even made an offer without Tressel ... probably not. But in all honesty, Bo would have called, as there were several other parties involved that Bo knows ...including Strollo, assistant AD's, other political and professional people, etc.  In general coach T is in a much better position now than he has been over the past few years with much of that suspension nonsense expiring.   I will also say that it is too easy for the media to pick on Pelini and Tressel, so Bo's behavior must continue to be scrutinized by insiders before it gets out to the media and other conference teams. Likewise JT knows he cannot be seen as a university president that brought in a potential "bad boy" and have his ability as the YSU president called to question; so he stayed pretty clean in the hiring and will stay neutral should any incidents flare-up.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: YsuPride on March 07, 2018, 02:55:03 PM
Agree we need a new arena or Beeghly needs serious remodel
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 07, 2018, 07:30:47 PM
Again with the Tressel brought us Pelini crap. Do you think Bo gave a crap who the president was when he called looking for work? Do you think he would have not called if it was someone else in the president's office (except maybe Shawn Eichorst  :)  )?

Fan, next time you're at a Penguin Club function reach out to a few of Bo's longtime friends, and ask them if Bo would have taken this job if JT wasn't the Prez.  Their answer would be "no".

I know the answer to that ... "yes". The better question is would Strollo have even made an offer without Tressel ... probably not. But in all honesty, Bo would have called, as there were several other parties involved that Bo knows ...including Strollo, assistant AD's, other political and professional people, etc.  In general coach T is in a much better position now than he has been over the past few years with much of that suspension nonsense expiring.   I will also say that it is too easy for the media to pick on Pelini and Tressel, so Bo's behavior must continue to be scrutinized by insiders before it gets out to the media and other conference teams. Likewise JT knows he cannot be seen as a university president that brought in a potential "bad boy" and have his ability as the YSU president called to question; so he stayed pretty clean in the hiring and will stay neutral should any incidents flare-up.


If you think JT has his hands clean of Bo and the football program, you'd be wrong.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: guinpen on March 07, 2018, 07:55:41 PM
Beeghly is a dump. Hence why Calhoun is trying so hard to bring money into the program to update it.

Beeghly certainly is not a dump, there have been recent upgrades. Yes more can be done and no doubt will, but a dump it is not.

I believe that Calhoun is trying to bring in money, heck why wouldn't he. Money can help all areas of the program.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: YSU1 on March 11, 2018, 01:08:27 PM
with an RPI of 329 out of 351 teams it will be difficult to attract big time basketball players to come to Youngstown.  because of that it will be difficult to build a program.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on March 11, 2018, 02:12:23 PM
with an RPI of 329 out of 351 teams it will be difficult to attract big time basketball players to come to Youngstown.  because of that it will be difficult to build a program.


The recruiting class coming in next year is better than any class Slocum brought. Quisenberry is the PG and leader of Wayne HS who is ranked #3 in the state D1. He may be the best PG in the state for that matter. Simmons is a long, lean 6-6 wing who can do it all for Beechcroft who is ranked #2 in D2. Both of their teams still alive in the playoffs. Atiba Taylor is a top 5 PG in the state of NJ who had offers from several power 5 teams. Also, 6-11 big man Jeffrey Otchere has named us in his final 5 schools and he will be making his decision here soon. Calhoun is building something great, it's just going to take time because of how bad the culture was here.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 05, 2018, 01:53:47 PM
Vargo just tweeted that we are playing at the Buckeyes on Dec 18th. Getting 95k for it.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: mudclods on April 05, 2018, 02:21:05 PM
Pretty stout non-conference schedule shaping up...WVU, Pitt & now OSU along with Western Michigan
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: Penguin Nick on April 05, 2018, 07:40:51 PM
I get more and more excited about YSU men's basketball every day!
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 05, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Definitely a good non conference schedule. Especially staying somewhat local.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ValleyTalk on April 05, 2018, 08:57:02 PM
I get more and more excited about YSU men's basketball every day!
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Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: IAA Fan on April 06, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
You guys need to relax and lay off the culture-crutch. If you saw attendance at any of the games this year, culture is the same. You think that some guy is going to walk in and sprinkle some magic pixie dust and all of these top players will come to YSU. I have news for you, anyone (as a coach or player) that can do better than ysu, WILL do better. Likewise anyone that cannot do better than YSU ... will not. If talent happens to sneek through, it usually does not stick around. Just remember how many years we had the top players in the conference under Slocum. Slocum knew how to get a good player and make him the best in the conference. If Calhoun is cheep and wins half of his games he would have been fine hire at the end of his term here. Now that all of the talent has left the conference, everyone expects championships. You have to build your team from the bottom-up, unless you are UWM and Pearl. Now we all know why. So unless YSU is willing to make that same commitment (which would also destroy our football reputation), be happy. Early Slocum culture was no different Now Peters seemed to get fans going during his entire tenure. I am just being practical and hope that I am wrong.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: Penguin Nick on August 01, 2018, 09:06:28 AM
Pitt, OSU, and WVU all have their 2018-19 schedules posted.  Cannot find YSU schedule, must still be working on it?  Any insight? 
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: ucfpengbuck on August 01, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
https://d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net/u/2/4k2jz4uxqktvbc/201819_nonHL_mbb_schedule.pdf

The tournament at Fordham sounds like a fun weekend.
Title: Re: Basketball schedule next year
Post by: Penguin Nick on August 02, 2018, 08:52:28 AM
Nice, respectable schedule.