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He has accepted an offer from a D 1 college.
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Christmas has arrived early
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My my my whatever will folks have to complain about.
Best of luck to him.
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Never understood why he stayed with Bo, or why Bo let him stay? One guy wanted a running QB, the other a drop back QB. Neither is right OR wrong, but frankly it was incomparable. Our OL was frankly ineffective much of the year, but going from Wells to Mays to Wells and back calls for completely different style of blocking and plays and maybe that contributed more then we'll ever know.
Anyway, good luck Shane.
Any on staff possibilities at OC?
This makes Stoops to DC even more likely as it removes one level of newness.
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Best of luck to him. Long overdue in my eyes.
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He's been trying to leave for YEARS! Never cared for him, more off field stuff then on field.
Where is he going?
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Haven’t heard that he left
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Source? Haven’t seen anything.
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Of the three top coaches in our program (HC, OC & DC) the worst one is staying on. I do ntot mean this as a Bo slam. Let's be serious, we have (had) the best coordinators at our level. I may not have liked some of Carl's play-calling, but that does not mean that he isn't quite successful at what he does with less-than-exceptional talent. I have always been a fan of Shane.
To have both sides of the ball leave is usually pretty damning to a club.
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Big Hits it will affect our recruiting.
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Of the three top coaches in our program (HC, OC & DC) the worst one is staying on. I do ntot mean this as a Bo slam. Let's be serious, we have (had) the best coordinators at our level. I may not have liked some of Carl's play-calling, but that does not mean that he isn't quite successful at what he does with less-than-exceptional talent. I have always been a fan of Shane.
To have both sides of the ball leave is usually pretty damning to a club.
Once again. Have not seen anything on him leaving except speculation on this board.
Sorry not buying it
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Of the three top coaches in our program (HC, OC & DC) the worst one is staying on. I do ntot mean this as a Bo slam. Let's be serious, we have (had) the best coordinators at our level. I may not have liked some of Carl's play-calling, but that does not mean that he isn't quite successful at what he does with less-than-exceptional talent. I have always been a fan of Shane.
To have both sides of the ball leave is usually pretty damning to a club.
Wrong again. Monty's reign was long overdue. An offense that is not so complex as you and others make it out to be. Sure it looks good vs Buter and Valpo. Not so much vs MVFC teams. It was time for him to go.
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Of the three top coaches in our program (HC, OC & DC) the worst one is staying on. I do ntot mean this as a Bo slam. Let's be serious, we have (had) the best coordinators at our level. I may not have liked some of Carl's play-calling, but that does not mean that he isn't quite successful at what he does with less-than-exceptional talent. I have always been a fan of Shane.
To have both sides of the ball leave is usually pretty damning to a club.
Wrong again. Monty's reign was long overdue. An offense that is not so complex as you and others make it out to be. Sure it looks good vs Buter and Valpo. Not so much vs MVFC teams. It was time for him to go.
I stand behind my statement. You just cannot let a positive Monty post stay on top. Losing two coordinators is not exactly the great thing people will spin it to be. If you see it as a positive, then you have to admit Monty's success. I see a loss of two coordinators as an issue at the top, not something positive; at least for YSU.
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Of the three top coaches in our program (HC, OC & DC) the worst one is staying on. I do ntot mean this as a Bo slam. Let's be serious, we have (had) the best coordinators at our level. I may not have liked some of Carl's play-calling, but that does not mean that he isn't quite successful at what he does with less-than-exceptional talent. I have always been a fan of Shane.
To have both sides of the ball leave is usually pretty damning to a club.
Wrong again. Monty's reign was long overdue. An offense that is not so complex as you and others make it out to be. Sure it looks good vs Buter and Valpo. Not so much vs MVFC teams. It was time for him to go.
I stand behind my statement. You just cannot let a positive Monty post stay on top. Losing two coordinators is not exactly the great thing people will spin it to be. If you see it as a positive, then you have to admit Monty's success. I see a loss of two coordinators as an issue at the top, not something positive; at least for YSU.
The issue at the top is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Of the three top coaches in our program (HC, OC & DC) the worst one is staying on. I do ntot mean this as a Bo slam. Let's be serious, we have (had) the best coordinators at our level. I may not have liked some of Carl's play-calling, but that does not mean that he isn't quite successful at what he does with less-than-exceptional talent. I have always been a fan of Shane.
To have both sides of the ball leave is usually pretty damning to a club.
Once again. Have not seen anything on him leaving except speculation on this board.
Sorry not buying it
You should buy it. Curious who his replacement will be.
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Hopefully whoever it is actually can get along with Bo and bring in a QB with him.
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Hopefully whoever it is actually can get along with Bo and bring in a QB with him.
You hit it out of the park there Chief.
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Let’s be honest here. Bo came here and I think had to accept the fact that Shane was part of the deal. I think it would have seen Monty leave last year but the semi-final changed that. I think Pelini likes it here and Shane realizes he won’t get the keys to the program staying here with Bo. Bo will have his chance now to play his style of ball. Let’s hope for the best.
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Let’s be honest here. Bo came here and I think had to accept the fact that Shane was part of the deal. I think it would have seen Monty leave last year but the semi-final changed that. I think Pelini likes it here and Shane realizes he won’t get the keys to the program staying here with Bo. Bo will have his chance now to play his style of ball. Let’s hope for the best.
Pretty spot on there.
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Let’s be honest here. Bo came here and I think had to accept the fact that Shane was part of the deal. I think it would have seen Monty leave last year but the semi-final changed that. I think Pelini likes it here and Shane realizes he won’t get the keys to the program staying here with Bo. Bo will have his chance now to play his style of ball. Let’s hope for the best.
It is ok for Bo to play his style of football if he has the QB to do it. The coach of the MBB also wants the team to play his style of ball without the proper players and the result speak for itself.
Bo needs to get a QB who can read the defense and can also throw the ball down field.
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and we still need an offense that can ram the ball when needed; otherwise we are going to back to same terrible defenses that we had under Wolf.
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and we still need an offense that can ram the ball when needed; otherwise we are going to back to same terrible defenses that we had under Wolf.
Are you inferring that the defense was bad because the offense didn't run the ball? Those two things are mutually exclusive. The defense was bad because we didn't have a coach that had a clue on how to run a defense
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and we still need an offense that can ram the ball when needed; otherwise we are going to back to same terrible defenses that we had under Wolf.
This comment makes no sense. The defense is the only reason this team has any chance to win games the last 2 years. Wolford has nothing to do with this ? It was long overdue for Monty to leave.
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No what I said makes perfect sense Chief. As to Monty needing to leave I think you are full of it; but that has nothing to with this comment. Just you wanting to top a post & you simply to not like the guy.
If we do not run a balanced offense the defense will not be prepared come September. It really makes all the sense in the world.
Power I agree with you completely on those two bad DC's under Wolf & that is what I was referring to in part. However, an offense running the ball well is not mutually exclusive from a good defense; in fact it is fundamental. I have said this before...Your offense and defense practice against each other for 6-months out of the year & against outside opposition for only 14-20 hours a year. It is up to our offense to be balanced enough to show the defense as many looks as possible. Conversely, it is up to your defense to give the offense enough looks to also be well prepared. Just think how badly Wofford would have beaten us last season if they had a pass game?
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I have been trying to understand and make sense of this thread the entire week. Know where on social media can I find that he is know longer the offensive coordinator or has stepped down. Love him or hate him Bo has spoke very highly of shane over the years and said he was a major asset to the program. He has retained his position year in and year out when many thought Bo would part ways with him..So is he staying or going?
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I have been trying to understand and make sense of this thread the entire week. Know where on social media can I find that he is know longer the offensive coordinator or has stepped down. Love him or hate him Bo has spoke very highly of shane over the years and said he was a major asset to the program. He has retained his position year in and year out when many thought Bo would part ways with him..So is he staying or going?
Gone. I wish him the best in his new gig. He was always very nice when I had chances to talk with him. He did do a lot of good things for our program on the offensive side of the ball.
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Need to get someone in here quick and he and Bo need to bring a QB with them.
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Need to get someone in here quick and he and Bo need to bring a QB with them.
Go to the Football coaches page.
Carl has been taken off
Shane has not
Until someone can post something other than hearsay I don’t believe he has gone anywhere
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Source tells FootballScoop Shane Montgomery is leaving Youngstown State to become OC at UNC Charlotte
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Source tells FootballScoop Shane Montgomery is leaving Youngstown State to become OC at UNC Charlotte
Thank you for sharing
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That source is correct.
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Need to get someone in here quick and he and Bo need to bring a QB with them.
Go to the Football coaches page.
Carl has been taken off
Shane has not
Until someone can post something other than hearsay I don’t believe he has gone anywhere
Our sources are better than CNN's ;)
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So now... Let's talk about possible replacements.
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Chief is correct. I've heard the same
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What about Mark Mangino (OC) and Ron Stoops (DC)?
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.@21WFMJSports Per football scoop YSU Offensive Coordinator Shane Montgomery leaving to become OC at UNC Charlotte..
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What about Mark Mangino (OC) and Ron Stoops (DC)?
Nah. No thanks on Mangino. Don't think the defense will change much because it's Bo's regardless of who the coordinator is.
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YSU Offensive Coordinator Shane Montgomery heading to Charlotte
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YSU Offensive Coordinator Shane Montgomery heading to Charlotte
Stated now for the 3rd time....
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So now... Let's talk about possible replacements.
John Klacik? (sorry, I couldn't resist)
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Very interested to see what happens here soon.
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So now... Let's talk about possible replacements.
John Klacik? (sorry, I couldn't resist)
I just threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks a lot
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So now... Let's talk about possible replacements.
John Klacik? (sorry, I couldn't resist)
I just threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks a lot
I think Klacik is missing a chromosome
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I'll be disappointed if someone from within is promoted.
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Klacik was not that bad, he was just trying to maintain an already antiquated Tressel offense. By then, the rules had changed.
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I'll be disappointed if someone from within is promoted.
As will I for both coordinator jobs. I hate to say this, but this is where we find out how much personality & reputation becomes a factor. Bo is HC, not DC, Stoops is above full potential now.
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I'll be disappointed if someone from within is promoted.
Hopefully that doesn’t happen Chief.
I would love to see someone come in and take a fresh approach to both sides of the ball.
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I'll be disappointed if someone from within is promoted.
Hopefully that doesn’t happen Chief.
I would love to see someone come in and take a fresh approach to both sides of the ball.
No fresh approach needed on D. That hasn't been the problem under Bo. Definitely need a complete re tooling of the offense.
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I'll be disappointed if someone from within is promoted.
Hopefully that doesn’t happen Chief.
I would love to see someone come in and take a fresh approach to both sides of the ball.
No fresh approach needed on D. That hasn't been the problem under Bo. Definitely need a complete re tooling of the offense.
You’d be surprised by the shenanigans that are going on with the D..... it needs a new face believe me
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Do You guys realize if we go outside the program next year will be a learning Year especially on offense. I hope we get an experienced play caller and somebody that understands our conference.
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I do not agree on defense Chief. Our defense is fundamentally challenged & lacks balance. We still have weak secondary ability and we creep up to try and stop the run. Our offenses have always been exceptionally well-balanced. I am hoping more of the same comes to the defense. Like we had early-on this past season. We always fall flat when someone challenges us up front. ie: championship game, or last year's first half against Pitt. Wofford challenged us 2 years ago, but we were too talented to lose that one. We have never lacked fundamental talent (like our D) on offense ... outside of last year's line depth & I felt we could have had stronger backs.
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Do You guys realize if we go outside the program next year will be a learning Year especially on offense. I hope we get an experienced play caller and somebody that understands our conference.
Will be somewhat of a learning curve even if we stay in house. If we go outside does Bo look for someone that fits our style or not. Same for the D, only time will tell.
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I do not agree on defense Chief. Our defense is fundamentally challenged & lacks balance. We still have weak secondary ability and we creep up to try and stop the run. Our offenses have always been exceptionally well-balanced. I am hoping more of the same comes to the defense. Like we had early-on this past season. We always fall flat when someone challenges us up front. ie: championship game, or last year's first half against Pitt. Wofford challenged us 2 years ago, but we were too talented to lose that one. We have never lacked fundamental talent (like our D) on offense ... outside of last year's line depth & I felt we could have had stronger backs.
No we just lacked competent play calling on offense. Defense led the nation in pass defense the last 2 years. Defense is not the issue.
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I do not agree on defense Chief. Our defense is fundamentally challenged & lacks balance. We still have weak secondary ability and we creep up to try and stop the run. Our offenses have always been exceptionally well-balanced. I am hoping more of the same comes to the defense. Like we had early-on this past season. We always fall flat when someone challenges us up front. ie: championship game, or last year's first half against Pitt. Wofford challenged us 2 years ago, but we were too talented to lose that one. We have never lacked fundamental talent (like our D) on offense ... outside of last year's line depth & I felt we could have had stronger backs.
No we just lacked competent play calling on offense. Defense led the nation in pass defense the last 2 years. Defense is not the issue.
and you are going to deny our obvious deficiencies on D & just ignore record after record performance on offense? Are you going to deny the fact that you watched the top running back, TE's and best depth at QB that YSU has ever had occurred over the 6+ years? You say I have a thing for Monty? Must not be as strong as your relationship with Carl. Carl never shut a team down the entire time he was here. Granted I do think lack of talent and shortness of his tenure had much to do with it ...and he was more than responsible the vast improvement over our last 3.5 DC's but I watched coverage players game after game with no idea where the ball even was against average to just above average QB's. There is not a single person on this board that did not see it. Our d line never stopped anyone & we had no shut-down corners.
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I do not agree on defense Chief. Our defense is fundamentally challenged & lacks balance. We still have weak secondary ability and we creep up to try and stop the run. Our offenses have always been exceptionally well-balanced. I am hoping more of the same comes to the defense. Like we had early-on this past season. We always fall flat when someone challenges us up front. ie: championship game, or last year's first half against Pitt. Wofford challenged us 2 years ago, but we were too talented to lose that one. We have never lacked fundamental talent (like our D) on offense ... outside of last year's line depth & I felt we could have had stronger backs.
No we just lacked competent play calling on offense. Defense led the nation in pass defense the last 2 years. Defense is not the issue.
Agreed. The offense sputters against good teams or play calling becomes inept.......USD ring any bells?
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So Bo has been here several years and the undercurrent has been that he will leave when his Nebraska buyout is over. You have to believe that this is hurting recruiting as it does when a coach is on the hot seat or close to retirement. Wouldnt it also hurt his ability to hire quality assistants? Has Bo made a strong commitment to stay here for the long term other than the usual perfunctory statements?
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So Bo has been here several years and the undercurrent has been that he will leave when his Nebraska buyout is over. You have to believe that this is hurting recruiting as it does when a coach is on the hot seat or close to retirement. Wouldnt it also hurt his ability to hire quality assistants? Has Bo made a strong commitment to stay here for the long term other than the usual perfunctory statements?
This recruiting class is probably the best Bo has had since he's been here so I wouldn't say it's hurting yet.
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Recruiting or getting Coaches will not be a problem. Bo is respected among his peers in the NFL and college and high school coaches. His resume speaks for itself. He has coached many a pro players and a College All-Americans. He has grown as a coach here and he is quite happy. I think Nebraska gave us a gift and how did that work out for them. The program is clean and W’s are building new lives and there is a waiting list for them. If we would have kept our QB healthy we would have made the playoffs.