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Does anybody know why it takes so long to get the football schedule out? I know what day we are playing West Virginia, because it is posted on the WVU website. I know when we are playing NDSU because it is posted on their website. In fact I know when we are playing NDSU in 2019 because THAT is posted on their website. I know when we are playing Maryland in 2027 because THAT is posted on their website, but as far as I can tell, we have NOTHING on our website? Anybody have 2018 information I don't? Anybody know why we are later than some? (many (most) are late like us) Any reason to hold information back?
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Our non-conference games along with WVU are... wait for it... Valpo and Butler. Awesome job again Strollo!
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Our non-conference games along with WVU are... wait for it... Valpo and Butler. Awesome job again Strollo!
Alpo and Butler? (yes, I know Alpo and Valpo are not the same, but in football, they're close)
I suggest we go back to opening at home with Slippery Rock. At least we get some "away" crowd. That means we get 4 home games worth watching yet again. Thanks Ron!
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What a joke. Two worthless games. Will be checking out OSU schedule those weeks. Will most likely be making a trip down there this year. Not worth the hassle of setting up a tailgate anymore for those games! Very disappointing scheduling.
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Pete, couldn't agree more with you. Last time we played Valpo we honestly could have scored 100. Wolford ran the ball every play in the second half. Look at the elite teams in FCS, and in our conference Northern Iowa always plays 1 or 2 quality FCS opponents, same with North Dakota St.
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Wait till the Strollo fan boys get on here to defend this. It's all about money and getting home games, blah blah. The athletic department is that desperate for money they are not willing to give up a home game every other season to play a real quality FCS opponent ? When's the last time we played a big OOC FCS opponent early in the season ?
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Wait till the Strollo fan boys get on here to defend this. It's all about money and getting home games, blah blah. The athletic department is that desperate for money they are not willing to give up a home game every other season to play a real quality FCS opponent ? When's the last time we played a big OOC FCS opponent early in the season ?
I get tired of the "Strollo is perfect and does everything himself" crowd. I think Jim Tressel is a remarkable man and an extraordinarily effective leader, but he isn't perfect and he doesn't do everything himself.
I do understand the principals of scheduling a couple cupcakes early, but a typical Valpo and Butler team has a way to climb to reach the cupcake status. Pitt, WVU, etc. schedule us in the same role, but we at least give them a workout. (sometimes a bit more than they want!) IMO we could do a little better with non-conference opponents.
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why can't we schedule another team from the fcs. like a team from the swac or meac.
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why can't we schedule another team from the fcs. like a team from the swac or meac.
We could, but the downside is it would be a home and home and so instead of 2 non-conference home games every year, we would have only 1 assuming we continue to play a FBS team away every year.
The posts saying YSU scheduling is all about the money it absolutely correct. The MBB team has s schedule set to generate money and huge loses. FB is set up to generate money and lopsided early wins. Frankly I'd prefer to look at the way people like NDSU and JMU run their programs without FBS games every year. But that would require out-of-the-box thinking, investment, promotion, and effort. Things our Athletic department aren't exactly noted for.
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NDSU is loaded with PAC 12 games for the foreseeable future... Clearly their program generates money and wins... The mind set is to be then best they can be... YSU will generate decent crowds because of the East side renovations and added loges....
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Valpo and Butler = pitiful!!!!
These games will be scheduled in the beautiful fall weather and no one will be there!
Why can't we do better???? This is a complete rip off for all of ours fans (year after year the same thing). :'(
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LOL here it comes again. 2 things:
chief: you will be happy when you see one of the reasons why we schedule Butler, aside from this location is obvious. Valpo? I am sure that you can figure that one out by yourself.
Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap. This is not the days prior to the "Tressel Rule".
If you people do not want to go to games, then don't. Save the seats for fans.
FYI. I drive past the Shoe every fall to attend YSU games. I would turn down an OSU v michigan ticket (and did) if the game falls on a day that YSU is even playing an away game at the same time. My daughter had 4-tickets during Tressel's championship season in 1992 & I said NO.
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LOL here it comes again. 2 things:
chief: you will be happy when you see one of the reasons why we schedule Butler, aside from this location is obvious. Valpo? I am sure that you can figure that one out by yourself.
Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap. This is not the days prior to the "Tressel Rule".
If you people do not want to go to games, then don't. Save the seats for fans.
FYI. I drive past the Shoe every fall to attend YSU games. I would turn down an OSU v michigan ticket (and did) if the game falls on a day that YSU is even playing an away game at the same time. My daughter had 4-tickets during Tressel's championship season in 1992 & I said NO.
That's great. Problem is nobody goes to the games. Especially when they are weenie games like these. The east side press box is gonna open up more loges and that means more money for people to sit and drink and eat and laugh and not pay attention to the game. Money runs it all. That's all this department cares about. Forget about the casual fan.
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LOL here it comes again. 2 things:
chief: you will be happy when you see one of the reasons why we schedule Butler, aside from this location is obvious. Valpo? I am sure that you can figure that one out by yourself.
Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap. This is not the days prior to the "Tressel Rule".
If you people do not want to go to games, then don't. Save the seats for fans.
FYI. I drive past the Shoe every fall to attend YSU games. I would turn down an OSU v michigan ticket (and did) if the game falls on a day that YSU is even playing an away game at the same time. My daughter had 4-tickets during Tressel's championship season in 1992 & I said NO.
That's great. Problem is nobody goes to the games. Especially when they are weenie games like these. The east side press box is gonna open up more loges and that means more money for people to sit and drink and eat and laugh and not pay attention to the game. Money runs it all. That's all this department cares about. Forget about the casual fan.
Let's see, no one goes to the weenie games, no one goes to the games when it is raining, no one goes to the games when it snows, no one goes to the games if osu is playing at the same time, no one goes to the games if we have a losing record, no one goes to the games if it is too cold, yadda yadda yadda!
This is not rocket science folks, YSU simply does not have a large base of hardcore fans. Anyone that does not go to a game for one of the above reasons is at best a casual fan. Only missed 5 games since the stadium opened, I have seen quite a few casual fans over the years.
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LOL here it comes again. 2 things:
chief: you will be happy when you see one of the reasons why we schedule Butler, aside from this location is obvious. Valpo? I am sure that you can figure that one out by yourself.
Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap. This is not the days prior to the "Tressel Rule".
If you people do not want to go to games, then don't. Save the seats for fans.
FYI. I drive past the Shoe every fall to attend YSU games. I would turn down an OSU v michigan ticket (and did) if the game falls on a day that YSU is even playing an away game at the same time. My daughter had 4-tickets during Tressel's championship season in 1992 & I said NO.
That's great. Problem is nobody goes to the games. Especially when they are weenie games like these. The east side press box is gonna open up more loges and that means more money for people to sit and drink and eat and laugh and not pay attention to the game. Money runs it all. That's all this department cares about. Forget about the casual fan.
Let's see, no one goes to the weenie games, no one goes to the games when it is raining, no one goes to the games when it snows, no one goes to the games if osu is playing at the same time, no one goes to the games if we have a losing record, no one goes to the games if it is too cold, yadda yadda yadda!
This is not rocket science folks, YSU simply does not have a large base of hardcore fans. Anyone that does not go to a game for one of the above reasons is at best a casual fan. Only missed 5 games since the stadium opened, I have seen quite a few casual fans over the years.
Your point ?
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LOL here it comes again. 2 things:
chief: you will be happy when you see one of the reasons why we schedule Butler, aside from this location is obvious. Valpo? I am sure that you can figure that one out by yourself.
Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap. This is not the days prior to the "Tressel Rule".
If you people do not want to go to games, then don't. Save the seats for fans.
FYI. I drive past the Shoe every fall to attend YSU games. I would turn down an OSU v michigan ticket (and did) if the game falls on a day that YSU is even playing an away game at the same time. My daughter had 4-tickets during Tressel's championship season in 1992 & I said NO.
"Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap."
1AA, that is CRAP and you know it. PROOF? NDSU has the YSU game for 2018 AND the YSU game for 2019 posted on their website! WE KNOW THOSE LEAGUE GAMES TOO! There is NO desperation in the 1A scheduled games, as they are posted on the websites of our opponents. Good grief the Maryland game for 2024 is POSTED! There is no desperation in the league games, so are you telling me we can't post a schedule because of we are desperate to get a Valpo and Butler?!?! That is just B _ _ _ S _ _ _! I think we don't post the schedule because the Athletic Department is to lazy to post it.
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2019 is a 12 game season. Do we have an FBS game scheduled? I can't imagine what that schedule looks like?
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2019 is a 12 game season. Do we have an FBS game scheduled? I can't imagine what that schedule looks like?
Not WVU, they play us in 2018, JMU in 2019
not Pitt, KY, Louisville, MSU, Iowa, OSU, PSU, Indiana, Illinois. Michigan because they are all posted.
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LOL here it comes again. 2 things:
chief: you will be happy when you see one of the reasons why we schedule Butler, aside from this location is obvious. Valpo? I am sure that you can figure that one out by yourself.
Schools do not hold back schedules GO, like us, they are desperate. Again with this "scheduling is easy" crap. This is not the days prior to the "Tressel Rule".
If you people do not want to go to games, then don't. Save the seats for fans.
FYI. I drive past the Shoe every fall to attend YSU games. I would turn down an OSU v michigan ticket (and did) if the game falls on a day that YSU is even playing an away game at the same time. My daughter had 4-tickets during Tressel's championship season in 1992 & I said NO.
That's great. Problem is nobody goes to the games. Especially when they are weenie games like these. The east side press box is gonna open up more loges and that means more money for people to sit and drink and eat and laugh and not pay attention to the game. Money runs it all. That's all this department cares about. Forget about the casual fan.
Again with the "wannabe" vs. reality. As pointed out by Guinpen, no one goes to the weannie games. I have news for all of you JMU is a weeneie game, literally ANY FCS team that we can schedule is a weanie game to the typical fan ...so why do you keep asking for losses by scheduling teams that can beat us? The only way to make a I-AA/FCS team less of a weannie game is to market these opposing teams to YSU fans and we cannot afford to properly market ourselves. I bet you that we would sell out if the Buckeyes were coming here, but I bet we would not if Maryland was coming here. Face reality, we cannot attract "name brands" to the Ice Castle. Neither can ANY OTHER TEAM at out level. Do you think Butler woulf have Bolted to the Big East if they could schedule any MBB team they wanted at home and remain a part of the Horizon? Heck no, why put out the $$$$. They left because they had just been in bacl-to-back national championship games and still could get a quality "Big Time" opponent at home. Football is no different ...even worse.
YSU needs to win games and get to the post-season. Then make certain that we have HOME GAMES in the post-season. This is our revenue ... and nothing else.
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1AA, you should consider the possibility that some teams just want to play in the most competitive situation possible. The Big East is FAR superior to the Horizon and maybe, just maybe, Butler wanted to face the best competition possible. Wonder why YSU left the Ohio Valley for the MFVC?
You know, I think your boy Strollo told you scheduling was hard, and you bought the company line hook line and sinker. I started this thread by asking why our schedule came out so long after most of the games were scheduled. Having no other answer than our Athletic Department is simply to lazy to publish it sooner, I guess that's the answer.
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2019 is a 12 game season. Do we have an FBS game scheduled? I can't imagine what that schedule looks like?
From what I heard it’s suppose to be FSU. All the BIG 10 teams turned us down
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2019 is a 12 game season. Do we have an FBS game scheduled? I can't imagine what that schedule looks like?
From what I heard it’s suppose to be FSU. All the BIG 10 teams turned us down
Florida State? Not showing on their website? (maybe I should check YSU site? kidding of course)
Frankly, it seems to me the Athletic Department ought to quit trying to take the easy way out and work at systemically building the program from inside. You don't see NDSU relying on FBS money games for their program. We would be well advised to look at things that JMU and others do in terms of club seating etc. to develop our base home income would be more sustainable. Then the occasional $$$ money game would be a bonus.
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1AA, you should consider the possibility that some teams just want to play in the most competitive situation possible. The Big East is FAR superior to the Horizon and maybe, just maybe, Butler wanted to face the best competition possible. Wonder why YSU left the Ohio Valley for the MFVC?
You know, I think your boy Strollo told you scheduling was hard, and you bought the company line hook line and sinker. I started this thread by asking why our schedule came out so long after most of the games were scheduled. Having no other answer than our Athletic Department is simply to lazy to publish it sooner, I guess that's the answer.
that's bs. NO ONE wants to play a more competitive schedule unless there is reward for the risk. Whatever the name for the Big East is now has more teams making the tourney: That is the only reason to leave. MBB is Butler's revenue. JT made the decision to jump from the OVC because YSU's revenue is football (unlike 90%+ of the schools in the nation). We had little to know hope of ever winning the OVC in football & the requirement was 7 games to make the post-season. At that time the OVC required all teams to play each other and adding EIU would mean we would be playing 9 (then 10) in-conference games each year. Notice we became an independent & the NCAA agreed that with the expansion of the tournament to 16-teams they would allow non-conference affiliated teams the ability to participate. Tressel wisely saw that our chances of making the NCAA were far higher as an independent, than as an OVC conference member. Factor in that he thought (as did most everyone at the time) that YSU was a year or 2 away from a MAC invite. In short JT took the best way out (call it the cowards way out if you would like) but he wanted to "schedule" 7-wins each year. That is just what he did. Then the NCAA put a stop to that a couple of years later with the "Tressel Rule" which requires 7 (or 8 based on year) DI wins.
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2019 is a 12 game season. Do we have an FBS game scheduled? I can't imagine what that schedule looks like?
From what I heard it’s suppose to be FSU. All the BIG 10 teams turned us down
Before or after Jimbo bounced ?
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1AA, you should consider the possibility that some teams just want to play in the most competitive situation possible. The Big East is FAR superior to the Horizon and maybe, just maybe, Butler wanted to face the best competition possible. Wonder why YSU left the Ohio Valley for the MFVC?
You know, I think your boy Strollo told you scheduling was hard, and you bought the company line hook line and sinker. I started this thread by asking why our schedule came out so long after most of the games were scheduled. Having no other answer than our Athletic Department is simply to lazy to publish it sooner, I guess that's the answer.
that's bs. NO ONE wants to play a more competitive schedule unless there is reward for the risk. Whatever the name for the Big East is now has more teams making the tourney: That is the only reason to leave. MBB is Butler's revenue. JT made the decision to jump from the OVC because YSU's revenue is football (unlike 90%+ of the schools in the nation). We had little to know hope of ever winning the OVC in football & the requirement was 7 games to make the post-season. At that time the OVC required all teams to play each other and adding EIU would mean we would be playing 9 (then 10) in-conference games each year. Notice we became an independent & the NCAA agreed that with the expansion of the tournament to 16-teams they would allow non-conference affiliated teams the ability to participate. Tressel wisely saw that our chances of making the NCAA were far higher as an independent, than as an OVC conference member. Factor in that he thought (as did most everyone at the time) that YSU was a year or 2 away from a MAC invite. In short JT took the best way out (call it the cowards way out if you would like) but he wanted to "schedule" 7-wins each year. That is just what he did. Then the NCAA put a stop to that a couple of years later with the "Tressel Rule" which requires 7 (or 8 based on year) DI wins.
That is so much bullsh** it doesn't deserve comment. MAC invite? NOBODY wants to play a more competitive schedule? Usually I enjoy conversing with you, but you are so delusional on this, you aren't worth my time.
Bye, maybe later.
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Southern Illinois Press Release for Future Schedules...
http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/12/southern-illinois-umass-arkansas-state-northwestern/
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2019 is a 12 game season. Do we have an FBS game scheduled? I can't imagine what that schedule looks like?
From what I heard it’s suppose to be FSU. All the BIG 10 teams turned us down
Before or after Jimbo bounced ?
Before Jimbo left
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Florida State really a possibility in 2019?
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There's reasons why so many good people I know have left this board...
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1AA, you should consider the possibility that some teams just want to play in the most competitive situation possible. The Big East is FAR superior to the Horizon and maybe, just maybe, Butler wanted to face the best competition possible. Wonder why YSU left the Ohio Valley for the MFVC?
You know, I think your boy Strollo told you scheduling was hard, and you bought the company line hook line and sinker. I started this thread by asking why our schedule came out so long after most of the games were scheduled. Having no other answer than our Athletic Department is simply to lazy to publish it sooner, I guess that's the answer.
that's bs. NO ONE wants to play a more competitive schedule unless there is reward for the risk. Whatever the name for the Big East is now has more teams making the tourney: That is the only reason to leave. MBB is Butler's revenue. JT made the decision to jump from the OVC because YSU's revenue is football (unlike 90%+ of the schools in the nation). We had little to know hope of ever winning the OVC in football & the requirement was 7 games to make the post-season. At that time the OVC required all teams to play each other and adding EIU would mean we would be playing 9 (then 10) in-conference games each year. Notice we became an independent & the NCAA agreed that with the expansion of the tournament to 16-teams they would allow non-conference affiliated teams the ability to participate. Tressel wisely saw that our chances of making the NCAA were far higher as an independent, than as an OVC conference member. Factor in that he thought (as did most everyone at the time) that YSU was a year or 2 away from a MAC invite. In short JT took the best way out (call it the cowards way out if you would like) but he wanted to "schedule" 7-wins each year. That is just what he did. Then the NCAA put a stop to that a couple of years later with the "Tressel Rule" which requires 7 (or 8 based on year) DI wins.
That is so much bullsh** it doesn't deserve comment. MAC invite? NOBODY wants to play a more competitive schedule? Usually I enjoy conversing with you, but you are so delusional on this, you aren't worth my time.
Bye, maybe later.
Enjoy. Reality hurts sometimes. How quickly you forget that we were given a MAC contract back in 1992 & its' cancellation clause was put into effect (that kept us out with the required 2 votes) once Marshall (the MAC's preferred choice that was holding out for an offer from CUSA) agreed to re-join the MAC on the LAST day before the agreement became final. Don't you remember how furious everyone was? My father was on the Athletic Committee at that time and I had to drive him down for a last minute meeting because the vote to accept/reject the contract was real close and they needed a "Show of hands".
Correct, I said NoOne wants to play a more competitive schedule. Let me say that I was somewhat off there ... NoOne wants to play a more competitive non-conference schedule ...unless you happen to be an incredibly over-talented partial or non-scholarship program that is desperate for "banner wins" to get in to play-off. When you are in a conference with 5-teams going to the tourney, your schedule is "tough-enough". This is common sense stuff.
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Anyone know which conference team the Guins don't play the next two years?
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9/1 – butler
9/8 @ wv
9/15 – valpo
9/29 @ wiu
10/6 – siu
10/13 @ sdsu
10/20 – sd
10/27 – ins
11/3 @ ndsu
11/10 – uni
11/17 @ ils
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Anyone know which conference team the Guins don't play the next two years?
We still have another year of Missouri State as our Bye. Then I am not sure because ND comes into the mix.
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Quite possibly the worst home schedule in several years.
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Butler? I’d rather have scheduled Mount Union than non-scholarship Butler. Those games are such a joke. Can’t we get an OVC team or something and do a home and Home?
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Quite possibly the worst home schedule in several years.
Better than any schedule we ever had as an independent & those years include 4 title game appearances. You complained about the DII games & those were all under Tressel and Malmisar. We need the easiest FCS games we can find & of course they will be at home. Just imagine how upset you will be if we travel to Butler for a FB game?
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I hate the “weenie” games as much as everyone else, but with our conference schedule being so strong, we don’t need to schedule a tough OOC for us to get to playoffs. We get seven wins we are going to be in. Now I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to playing stronger OOC FCS opponents in September, perhaps we will in a couple years if we can’t get an FBS game on the schedule.