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Title: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 01:12:47 PM
Davis must have been almost 15-yards back before he took off. Fooled everyone.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 01:17:05 PM
Nice touch by the Trees QB, that pass was just dropped.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on November 04, 2017, 01:20:38 PM
Ricky is the best athlete on offense for us.  He should have a good day. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 01:23:30 PM
ISU is absolutely terrible. Some of our local high school teams could beat these bums.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 01:40:48 PM
was that score legal?
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 01:44:24 PM
was that score legal?

4 TD in 1st quarter... Is that a record?
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
Nothing gets your season back on track like beating a D3 team.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 01:51:42 PM
Up 4 TDs, I thought they would not give up a quick score.

Wow, Lee Wrigt almost chased down their RB.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 01:52:00 PM
there is the tackling we have grown to know and love. just terrible
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
How #7 still starts at DB is amazing to me.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 02:03:01 PM
Another big play?
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
This team stinks lol.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 02:21:26 PM
The way our defense played, we better score every possession.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 02:22:12 PM
Another big play?

make it 2 for ISU. Powell did not even try to make that tackle
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
I actually hope we lose this game. Put some pressure on Bo to make some changes.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Buddy on November 04, 2017, 02:27:52 PM
Now I see why we are 3-5
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
Now I see why we are 3-5
Gave up 24 points to this team in a half. No wonder we lost last 4 games.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
I was wrong. W gave 24 points in a quarter.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 03:02:34 PM
nice play call and execution. hope we see more of #82
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
If only Montgomery could actually develop a QB, Davis could have had a special career here. He has the talent that's for sure.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 03:18:16 PM
nice play call and execution. hope we see more of #82
Your wish has been answered.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ucfpengbuck on November 04, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
Thank you Ricky Davis or ISU secondary.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on November 04, 2017, 03:22:04 PM
Indiana St.  is a disaster with their secondary.  I hope we find a Qb next year. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 03:32:13 PM
If only Montgomery could actually develop a QB, Davis could have had a special career here. He has the talent that's for sure.

Let's not go overboard. You should be thankful Montgomery works with QB's as well as he does; because Davis is #4 on the depth chart.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on November 04, 2017, 03:42:10 PM
The guy was a starter so I feel if he dropped to 4 then that’s on Montgomery. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 03:47:59 PM
The guy was a starter so I feel if he dropped to 4 then that’s on Montgomery.

Don't agree. Not Montgomery's choice to play that style of offense, but he installs it. Davis earns the nod and is out for 4 games (probably more). Then 4th-string Wells came in and did the job. He earned it. This run & gun big lay offense we are playing today is not YSU, nor will it win in the top half of the MVFC.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 04, 2017, 04:06:59 PM
well i think we have our answer on Well's medical chances
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on November 04, 2017, 04:11:14 PM
Yea that’s sucks. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Double ET on November 04, 2017, 04:32:35 PM
well i think we have our answer on Well's medical chances
That was my thought when they put him in.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 08:15:42 PM
I have yet to see a QB "get better" under Montgomery.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on November 04, 2017, 09:15:17 PM
I actually hope we lose this game. Put some pressure on Bo to make some changes.

Really, you actually would hope for YSU to lose, unreal!
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
I actually hope we lose this game. Put some pressure on Bo to make some changes.

Really, you actually would hope for YSU to lose, unreal!


Coaching staff needs a wake up call.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Petey on November 05, 2017, 08:31:41 AM
Went into the Dakota forum after their loss yesterday and was shocked to see the posts concerning their team and the QB they refer to as stick. In one game Stick has gone from the great and powerful OZ to a worthless pile of crap. Took a few losses for a few of our fans to turn into the sky is falling knuckle heads also. Living hear in Cbus OSU fans can turn quickly also. Probably natural, but never heard a true fan actually hoping for a loss. Can just see him stamping his feet as he typed that!! My wife can get pretty emotional at times, but she can keep things in perspective. Need to think before typing the tantrums, these are still kids at the end of the day that do take a peek here from time to time. Have been attending games since we played at Rayen and seen many ups and downs. Things will get better. WE ARE YSU!


GOOO GUINS!!!!
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 05, 2017, 11:45:44 AM
I have yet to see a QB "get better" under Montgomery.
?? Hess, Wells, Davis, Mays ?? I am not sure there has been one that has not, outside of a slide by Wells where he no longer fit the offensive style. I might add that he returned in stellar-fashion to take us to a title game playing his style of ball. The most impressive thing with coach Shane at the OC is the depth at QB & his ability to press someone into our offensive mold. How impressive was it when coach M came down from the booth and quickly changed our game plan to more of a scout team vanilla O & then gradually increased the # of plays and watch Mays come back to beat UNI? These are things that I remember and take pride in. Mays' continued progression this year has been more than solid. He is the starter of this team next year unless he is unseated.

Look I understand if you want a more exciting offense, but you see what toll it takes on our defense. You cannot advance in the post-season unless you can win a 10-7 game
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Kandrase on November 05, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
Went into the Dakota forum after their loss yesterday and was shocked to see the posts concerning their team and the QB they refer to as stick. In one game Stick has gone from the great and powerful OZ to a worthless pile of crap. Took a few losses for a few of our fans to turn into the sky is falling knuckle heads also. Living hear in Cbus OSU fans can turn quickly also. Probably natural, but never heard a true fan actually hoping for a loss. Can just see him stamping his feet as he typed that!! My wife can get pretty emotional at times, but she can keep things in perspective. Need to think before typing the tantrums, these are still kids at the end of the day that do take a peek here from time to time. Have been attending games since we played at Rayen and seen many ups and downs. Things will get better. WE ARE YSU!


GOOO GUINS!!!!

Lol they refer to him as Stick because that’s his name:  Easton Stick.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on November 05, 2017, 03:44:38 PM
If Mays is our future we will be in a hell of a lot of trouble.  He is a very poor mans version of Jeff Ryan.  The kid needs to gain 15 lbs and get an arm and he has no vision of the field.   He is a back up at the fcs level.  He didn’t learn anything from watching Davis on getting rid of the ball instead of taking hit after hit and running at every  opportunity.  This level of play the opponent will take you out and beat on you. So now we  have basically killed 3
Qb’s in 2 years.  It’s fairly obvious that Wolford was the brains on the o line and Bricillo or whatever his name needs to be let go. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on November 05, 2017, 07:39:12 PM
Let's see our "running" qb passes for over 300 yards and we score over 60 points, another bad day for Monty I guess.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSUGO on November 05, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
Indy St. defense was horrible they had given up 212 it’s the previous 4 games.  So explain to me how this makes Monty a genius. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Kandrase on November 05, 2017, 09:18:14 PM
Let's see our "running" qb passes for over 300 yards and we score over 60 points, another bad day for Monty I guess.

Yeah and how many did he throw for last week? Come on guinpen, you know ISUb this year is not a a defense to measure any type of offensive success against
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on November 06, 2017, 07:03:22 AM
Indiana St. came into this game ranked 217th in the country. Southern and Missouri St. come in a little better at 140 and 170. All three are bottom feeders in this conference and rank right up there with C.C.St. and Robert Morris. Our quarterbacks and offense should excell at a high level in these games. It's what you do outside of these games that matter




Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 06, 2017, 09:42:27 AM
Indy St. defense was horrible they had given up 212 it’s the previous 4 games.  So explain to me how this makes Monty a genius.

You are correct, it does not. However, that same thing is said for the QB play itself. Who knows what will result of a Davis vs. Mays, if they did not play against the same team? What Davis' performance does say about Montgomery is that he is detailed and well-prepared.

Look at the 5 or 6 times that ISU dlines or secondary adjusted. The result was they sacked Davis, just as ILS sacked Mays. Again I am not saying that Mays will be our future, I am saying he has earned his chance.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: Penquin68 on November 06, 2017, 12:23:48 PM
Here is my thought.  I think Ricky Davis is the most athletic of all our current QB's, running, throwing, size. Has not developed into a QB like Hunter who can read defenses and check down to secondary receivers, same with Nathan Mays. Is it coaching or lack of ability, I don't know.  One thing I see is that our play calling didn't help either Ricky or Nathan until this past week with quick short throws when they blitz etc to take the heat off the inexperienced QB's.  All teams now load the box on early downs against the run and blitz on obvious passing downs. Finally we had a bit of an answer to help; I understand against a weaker team.

On defense I think we are small and that has taken its toll on the linebackers and db's.  Much of the run game tackles are not by the d line and our smaller back end people have been beat up.  Now they are gun shy in my opinion.  I think we have put too much pressure on the smaller safetys and corners to stop larger running backs and it has taken its toll.  We need larger linebackers and safetys to handle this increased load with the d line not involved that much in stopping the run.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: YSU1 on November 06, 2017, 12:48:53 PM
Sycamores have 52 freshman on that team.  Let's face it they are a JV team.

Driving back to Cleveland so I stopped at Quaker Steak and Lube on 46 to watch the game. Not one tv had the YSU game on.  They were nice enough to change a tv at the back bar so I could watch.  Interest is not there.  The Sycamores drew a crowd of maybe 1000 people for the game.  That is like Division 2.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on November 06, 2017, 07:58:31 PM
Let's see our "running" qb passes for over 300 yards and we score over 60 points, another bad day for Monty I guess.

Yeah and how many did he throw for last week? Come on guinpen, you know ISUb this year is not a a defense to measure any type of offensive success against

I was making a point, I get tired of the Monty bashing all the time. If he can get hammered when we lose he should get kudos when we win. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 06, 2017, 09:49:33 PM
Let's see our "running" qb passes for over 300 yards and we score over 60 points, another bad day for Monty I guess.

Yeah and how many did he throw for last week? Come on guinpen, you know ISUb this year is not a a defense to measure any type of offensive success against

I was making a point, I get tired of the Monty bashing all the time. If he can get hammered when we lose he should get kudos when we win. Pretty simple.


Not when you play a D2 football team.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 07, 2017, 11:49:06 AM
Let's see our "running" qb passes for over 300 yards and we score over 60 points, another bad day for Monty I guess.

Yeah and how many did he throw for last week? Come on guinpen, you know ISUb this year is not a a defense to measure any type of offensive success against

I was making a point, I get tired of the Monty bashing all the time. If he can get hammered when we lose he should get kudos when we win. Pretty simple.


Not when you play a D2 football team.

Excuse me but it is not as though we battled neck-to-neck against this supposed DII football team. A coach has just as much work to do against ISU, as ILS. A weaker opponent just makes it easier to execute.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: dwj on November 07, 2017, 02:25:56 PM
Ricky had a career day and good for him.  But the bottom line is we cannot compete with the top teams in our league.  One factor impacting this is QB talent.  When they stop our running game we are done we haven't had a QB who could take over a game in a long time.  Look at what NDSU did to us this year we played great defense in stopping their running & passing game & their QB took charge & won the game.  Sure we made it to the NCG last year & that was mostly due to being in the easy bracket.  If we were in the other bracket we probably wouldn't have made it past the second round.  We need to go out & get a stud QB, probably a transfer, who can take charge & win a game when needed.  If we continue with what we have not much will change.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: go guins on November 08, 2017, 09:26:58 AM
Ricky had a career day and good for him.  But the bottom line is we cannot compete with the top teams in our league.  One factor impacting this is QB talent.  When they stop our running game we are done we haven't had a QB who could take over a game in a long time.  Look at what NDSU did to us this year we played great defense in stopping their running & passing game & their QB took charge & won the game.  Sure we made it to the NCG last year & that was mostly due to being in the easy bracket.  If we were in the other bracket we probably wouldn't have made it past the second round.  We need to go out & get a stud QB, probably a transfer, who can take charge & win a game when needed.  If we continue with what we have not much will change.
Not sure how you can say "we cannot compete" when we played 5 ranked 1AA teams and 1 1A team.  Yes, we only won 1 but lost 4 on the last play of the game and didn't come prepared to play against Ill St.  We competed against NDSU, USD, SDSU, UNI, and Pitt, and I don't see how you can claim we can't?
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: dwj on November 08, 2017, 10:24:13 AM
We typically loose 3-4 league games a year.  Last play or not we still loose.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: go guins on November 08, 2017, 10:41:36 AM
We typically loose 3-4 league games a year.  Last play or not we still loose.
Maybe, by your math and logic, then we typically win 4-5 league games, but many are close and a close win is tantamount to a loss? 
To me, being competitive means you have a chance to win, I assume to you it means you win every close contest?
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 08, 2017, 11:51:05 AM
This team isn't playoff caliber. Proved it in the game vs Illinois State. Playoff teams don't lose like that. At Home
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: dwj on November 08, 2017, 11:57:34 AM
Wins get you into the playoffs not how competitive you were in the losses.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: go guins on November 08, 2017, 02:55:48 PM
Wins get you into the playoffs not how competitive you were in the losses.
Now you're trying to change your story.  Yes, ultimately wins do the trick, but what you said was " But the bottom line is we cannot compete with the top teams in our league."  What I am saying is your statement isn't correct, we are VERY COMPETITIVE with them. 

EVEN with the Pitt loss, even with the USD loss, even with the NDSU loss, and even with the UNI loss, we were still VERY MUCH A PLAYOFF TEAM BECAUSE of the competitive nature of the losses.  Only the non-competitive loss to Ill St. did us in. 
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 08, 2017, 03:55:25 PM
I think you are both correct, but competitive losses is well below in priority and would only come into play as a deciding factor in the event of a tie (and that is not official). I mean we could have beaten ILS and lost a close game to Ohio State and we would still be out. Too many losses. There is a point where who cares about how close the losses were, a loss is a loss...is a loss.

As to adding a stud Qb I could not be more against anything & trust only Montgomery's recruiting at that position. If Bo wants a different style QB, I have every confidence that coach Shane can find a person. When is the last time you ever heard of Delaware? A couple of stud Qb recruits with "keys to the city", deep play-off runs, NFL drafts, the NCAA begins to "sniff around" and then all of your other recruiting practices come under suspicion as well. Then YSU is not competitive because we lack any talent.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: DavedS on November 08, 2017, 11:15:03 PM
We typically loose 3-4 league games a year.  Last play or not we still loose.
Either way we most likely would've won the National Title last year without all the suspensions. ;)
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: go guins on November 09, 2017, 08:42:03 AM
We typically loose 3-4 league games a year.  Last play or not we still loose.
Either way we most likely would've won the National Title last year without all the suspensions. ;)
I'd like to think so too, but that JMU team looked better to me at virtually every position, not just the 4 suspension replacements, one of which was Jalyn Powell, who I would argue it the MVP if this year's team.   I think, with the 4 suspensions we would have been a closer runner-up.  That JMU team was in my top 5 1AA teams ever.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 09, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
We typically loose 3-4 league games a year.  Last play or not we still loose.
Either way we most likely would've won the National Title last year without all the suspensions. ;)


Would've made the score closer but JMU was the better team.
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: ysuguins4 on November 11, 2017, 10:41:25 AM
We typically loose 3-4 league games a year.  Last play or not we still loose.
Either way we most likely would've won the National Title last year without all the suspensions. ;)


Would've made the score closer but JMU was the better team.

He aint lyin
Title: Re: ISU In-Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on November 11, 2017, 10:46:11 AM
With Ruiz in the game, would have been a different team as they do not stop him.