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Title: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 16, 2017, 11:24:42 PM
Doesn't get any easier this week. Another battle.... Let's hope some of the banged up fellas are okay to go.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: lakesbison on October 17, 2017, 12:08:53 AM
End Uni's season please.

signed MVFC
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Wick250 on October 17, 2017, 10:45:08 AM
After the past two weeks, here is a statistic that we will all like.  The UNI quarterback has 29 carries that have resulted in -89 yards.  He has thrown for 17 touchdowns but has been intercepted 8 times.  UNI has also given up well over 400 yards a game.  We are all well versed in the horror stories about that dome, but UNI has a weaker offense than South Dakota and NDSU and a much weaker defense than the Bison.  No excuses.  Go out there and get the job done.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 17, 2017, 11:36:55 AM
After the past two weeks, here is a statistic that we will all like.  The UNI quarterback has 29 carries that have resulted in -89 yards.  He has thrown for 17 touchdowns but has been intercepted 8 times.  UNI has also given up well over 400 yards a game.  We are all well versed in the horror stories about that dome, but UNI has a weaker offense than South Dakota and NDSU and a much weaker defense than the Bison.  No excuses.  Go out there and get the job done.


100% agree! Cannot lose this game.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 17, 2017, 11:38:53 AM
After the past two weeks, here is a statistic that we will all like.  The UNI quarterback has 29 carries that have resulted in -89 yards.  He has thrown for 17 touchdowns but has been intercepted 8 times.  UNI has also given up well over 400 yards a game.  We are all well versed in the horror stories about that dome, but UNI has a weaker offense than South Dakota and NDSU and a much weaker defense than the Bison.  No excuses.  Go out there and get the job done.


100% agree! Cannot lose this game.
agree.  win out or stay home.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 17, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
was cruzing an UNI sports blog and noticed this.  Obvious has -0- to do with football, but interesting none the less.  Compare to job Coach Calhoun is doing!

Official 2018 Panther Basketball Recruit List
08-25-2015, 11:26 AM
Committed
A.J. Green..........6-4 G Cedar Falls, IA (Cedar Falls) Rivals ★★★★

Offered
Keshawn Justice...6-4 G Cottage Grove, WI (Madison East) Rivals

Committed Elsewhere
Daniel Oturu.........6-9 F St. Paul, MN (Cretin-Derham) VC Committed to Minnesota
Gabe Kalscheur.....6-4 G Edina, MN (DeLaSalle) Rivals Committed to Minnesota
Joe Wieskamp.......6-4 G Muscatine, IA (Muscatine) Rivals ★★★★ Committed to Iowa
Joey Hauser..........6-8 F Stevens Point, Wi (Stevens Point) Rivals ★★★★ Committed to Marquette
Race Thompson...6-8 F Plymouth, MN (Armstrong) Rivals ★★★★ Committed to Indiana
Shea Mitchell........6-6 F Lakeville, MN (Lakeville) ★★★ Committed to UW-Milwaukee
Elijah Parquet.......6-4 G Beaumont, TX (West Brook) Committed to Colorado
Isaac Likekele.......6-4 G Arlington, TX (Mansfield Timberview) Committed to Fresno State
Quinn Blaire..........6-6 F Livonia, MI (Divine Child) Committed to William & Mary
Blake Brinkmeyer..6-8 F West Des Moines, IA (Valley) Committed to Indiana State
Tyrese Haliburton..6-6 G Oshkosh, WI (Oshkosh North) Rivals ★★★ Committed to Iowa State
Jarius Cook...........6-3 G Brooklyn Park, MN (Park Center) VC Committed to North Dakota State
Riley Abercrombie..6-8 F Wollongong, AUS (Clear Lake) VC Rivals Committed to Boise State
Cooper Kaifes.......6-3 G Shawnee, KS (Mill Valley) VC Committed to Loyola (IL)
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 17, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
Wells and Reed are 50/50 to play per Bo. Wouldn't expect Wells to play until he's completely healthy.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 17, 2017, 05:33:00 PM
Wells and Reed are 50/50 to play per Bo. Wouldn't expect Wells to play until he's completely healthy.
Wells was 50/50 for NDSU too
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 17, 2017, 05:53:50 PM
Wells and Reed are 50/50 to play per Bo. Wouldn't expect Wells to play until he's completely healthy.
Wells was 50/50 for NDSU too

And neither practiced today
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 17, 2017, 08:55:37 PM
I wouldn't expect either of them to play. We really miss Reed though. The outside guys cannot get consistent pressure.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 18, 2017, 09:42:52 AM
You may want to consider the fact that our offense has evolved, we may not want a new QB. That being said Mays was taking some big hits for NDSU.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Wick250 on October 18, 2017, 12:05:43 PM
I want both quarterbacks healthy.  Between them, we can attack a defense in every conceivable way.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 18, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
Both QB's are banged up. Mays was limping badly towards the end of the game.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 18, 2017, 04:29:22 PM
Both QB's are banged up. Mays was limping badly towards the end of the game.
both, as in mays and davis, or mays and wells?  whatever they say about week to week etc. I doubt very much hunter back is much before 4-6 weeks. or 2-4 more.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 18, 2017, 11:36:54 PM
We haven't won there since 99 I believe. Time to change that.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 20, 2017, 11:45:22 AM
We haven't won there since 99 I believe. Time to change that.

That 7 game streak in the dome comes to an end Saturday.  Guins rebound from the two close losses with a convincing win.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 20, 2017, 11:53:59 AM
We haven't won there since 99 I believe. Time to change that.

That 7 game streak in the dome comes to an end Saturday.  Guins rebound from the two close losses with a convincing win.

Let's hope you're right.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 20, 2017, 10:56:44 PM
Mays better be ready. Need this W.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Joe Bernastat on October 21, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
I agree with Chief.  Must win. If we lose this game, season over.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 21, 2017, 09:31:47 AM
I agree with Chief.  Must win. If we lose this game, season over.

Yep, even though i think there’s a chance we could make the playoffs with 4 losses, from a morale perspective/ control your own destiny this is a must win. Hope the guins can  come out fast and take any potential drama out of this game.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 21, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
We have to get this one.  But I don’t think the Panthers are as weak as we think.
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/college/football/youngstown-state-presents-challenge-for-unis-newfound-balance-on-offense-20171021
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
We lose this game and we are done.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 10:25:20 AM
Oh yes, this is one I never counted on. Two new players on offense bring the Panther back to the wildcat style that we we all know and love to lose to. Up until last week they only had misdirection, which we figured out in last year's game late in the contest. This offense was much better against SDSU than we were and their defense has a great deal of motion
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 02:14:56 PM
Once again #42 is too slow to stay with a RB
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
If we don’t put pressure on the QB we will get picked apart
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 02:25:39 PM
Chapman and Louigene cannot rush the passer. Without Reed, we stink.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 02:31:45 PM
This QB just doesn’t have it. Coordinator doesn’t help any.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 02:32:01 PM
Man is our offense predictable
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
And defense playing on their heals.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 02:45:40 PM
Wow do we look bad
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 02:46:07 PM
If we don’t score on this upcoming drive, it’s over.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Double ET on October 21, 2017, 02:46:45 PM
Can we ever stop them on 3rd downs?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 02:47:16 PM
I believe you will see Ricky Davis play QB today
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Double ET on October 21, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
If we don’t score on this upcoming drive, it’s over.
Mays will not be able to pass us to victory.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Double ET on October 21, 2017, 02:50:41 PM
Why would the returner let the ball bounce on the goal line? He should catch the ball on the fly at the 5 yard line and run with it.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: The YO Show on October 21, 2017, 02:52:24 PM
Definitely need points this drive or else this gets out of hand
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 02:52:46 PM
There was something I didn’t expect. We ran off tackle on first down
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 02:55:09 PM
Come on
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Double ET on October 21, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
I still do not believe we will be able to do much this year without Wells.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Double ET on October 21, 2017, 02:57:42 PM
We didn't do much last year until Wells returned.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 02:58:14 PM
This is over. Th offense stinks and the defense line is being dominated. Kiss the season goodbye.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: OleYSUfan on October 21, 2017, 02:59:46 PM
we need a big break very soon!!
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:05:59 PM
Was that the first pass downfield that Mays threw this year?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
Was that the first pass downfield that Mays threw this year?

Yes it was and with UNI crowding the line and having a spy on him. He’s going to have to throw more of them
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: The YO Show on October 21, 2017, 03:12:23 PM
Farley targeting call will be huge for this game
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
So again we are going to give up points on a late first half drive
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:15:42 PM
Wow
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 03:18:17 PM
The last 2 weeks took a lot out of this team. They are cooked.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:21:17 PM
Mays is terrible
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 03:37:30 PM
Mays is terrible

Yes we get it Buddy you do not like the guy. Well most educated fans do. He is the best we have & even if Wells returns that is still the case, so deal with it. Don't say a word about our O-line's inability to protect him and the D-line's complete inability to cover a balanced offense that allows UNI to cut through our D like a hot knife through butter so the Panthers have any option they want on second down. You just make odd comments about Mays not throwing a down field pass, which is OBVIOUSLY not true. So OBVIOUSLY you do not watch the games, or simply like to tell lies. Better yet, you are looking for a scapegoat not named Pelini?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:45:32 PM
Mays is terrible

Yes we get it Buddy you do not like the guy. Well most educated fans do. He is the best we have & even if Wells returns that is still the case, so deal with it. Don't say a word about our O-line's inability to protect him and the D-line's complete inability to cover a balanced offense that allows UNI to cut through our D like a hot knife through butter so the Panthers have any option they want on second down. You just make odd comments about Mays not throwing a down field pass, which is OBVIOUSLY not true. So OBVIOUSLY you do not watch the games, or simply like to tell lies. Better yet, you are looking for a scapegoat not named Pelini?

So first off I never said I hated the guy. But what I see is a guy who looks at one receiver and does not see the rush well. Typically he takes off running when the rich gets to him.

Well is not a great QB but is better than Mays
And I watch every game and have done so for the past 25 years
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:48:18 PM
And I think our defense is playing worse than the offense

The only times we stopped them on third down was due to them dropping the ball
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 03:50:25 PM
42 beat by another RB. Also what has Coates done as a returner? Let’s put someone back there with some speed
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 03:55:22 PM
What a joke. That’s the ball game.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 03:55:49 PM
That needed to be play action
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
We are getting killed on defense
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Double ET on October 21, 2017, 03:58:25 PM
We need 1 yard for 1st down. We live Ned up the RB 7 yard deep.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
Mays just can’t beat teams throwing the ball. This offensive coordinator does not help him at all.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:01:55 PM
Wiggins is hurt and will not return today.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: The YO Show on October 21, 2017, 04:14:20 PM
Ricky!
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: The YO Show on October 21, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
Is the center hurt too? I noticed a lot of bad snaps this game?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:15:42 PM
This O-Line stinks.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
Kennedy STINKS as well. What a piss poor kick and kicker.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 04:16:42 PM
O line is horrible.  Kicker sucks 
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: supermario21 on October 21, 2017, 04:16:59 PM
Good Lord how do you miss a straight shot 35 yarder wide left, as a lefty, indoors?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:17:45 PM
Out coached, out played. We’ve been dominated on the line. Our QB’s can’t throw. Our kicker is useless. The season is done.
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Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 04:19:59 PM
I am sick.   I look forward to this all week and it just kill me
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
Embarrassing
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
Get Mays out. Bo and Montgomery are dumb.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
Hahaha this is embarrassing. Just flat out embarrassing.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 04:29:47 PM
How many times are we goning to do a straight 3 or 5 step drop on 3rd down and long?  Need to try something different.  Roll out or something
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on October 21, 2017, 04:32:00 PM
Sorry Nate...time to go.  Even Hannon and Sammarone saying you need to sit down
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:37:45 PM
Shame Montgomery is the worst.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 04:38:43 PM
sh**.  Now hope for a 7-4 season with some convincing wins

Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:41:14 PM
This team is done. They are beat up. The last 3 weeks took way too much out of them. Kids hanging their heads. No excitement or juice on the sidelines. Sad to see.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 04:49:42 PM
Really missing the passing ability of wells
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 04:50:04 PM
We are a walking infirmary. Done.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 04:51:01 PM
7-4 May be a dream
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 21, 2017, 04:57:49 PM
Can we keep a back in to block number 7
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 21, 2017, 04:59:23 PM
I and a few warned you that we were not happy with the tackle play before the season started.  Radio hit it on the nose.  1. Panthers beat us physically and we lack vocal leadership this year.  Our kicker hasn’t been true money since his freshman year. When you have a running qb you better have 5 or 6 in this league they get hurt.  We are not making the plays that matter and lack playmakers.  When u have a team of fair to average players you have to play flawless football.  But if you lines are not getting it done it usually spells a loss.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 05:04:36 PM
Too little to late.   Done....
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: The YO Show on October 21, 2017, 05:10:09 PM
Would have liked to see Davis in sooner, wonder if it would have been different? Why even through Mays back out when he got hurt?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 05:12:32 PM
Well give the D their due, they tightened up for most of the second half, but the o-line offers no help. Lots of tough decisions to be made this week.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
Would have liked to see Davis in sooner, wonder if it would have been different? Why even through Mays back out when he got hurt?

Arm strength & accuracy. They had a long throw planned. It was smart, but kind of obvious. You knew that he could not run.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 05:16:39 PM
Shame Montgomery is the worst.

Be fair ...Carl stands right beside him in that line. Probably even a couple of people in the lead. At least Montgomery has given us a complete game this year.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: penguinpower on October 21, 2017, 05:21:42 PM
Besides the fact that we were feeling sorry for ourselves and were head cases.  Montgomery showed that he suffers from a full blown case of mental retardation.

If he is such a good coach, then why can't our offense pick up blitzing properly.  As soon as the other team puts everyone in the box we are like deer in the headlights pissing down our leg
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 05:27:55 PM
Uncalled for. Actually our play calling was not that bad on either side of the ball today, or the last 2-weeks; we are simply being out-played.

Power and Go, you picked up on something that you may recall we thought last year ...what about coach Carm in this equation?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 21, 2017, 06:43:24 PM
Mays is still a year away. It was great to see him connect with #4 over the middle today, but he has missed about a dozen wide open receivers in the last couple of games that could have went for scores. UNI played soft zone coverage on the perimeter playing 10-15 yards off our receivers and gave him that throw all day and that was his 1st look that he went to most of the time. I'm not going to pin all the sacks on him, but he needs to do a better job of getting rid of the ball. Still confused of why we ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down against S.D. and N.D.S. when they were playing the run on the final drives..Need to throw a high percentage pass
that will pick up 5 yards on 1st or 2nd so your back up is not faced with a 3rd and long situation. We need to get healthy last time i checked Illinois St. was up on S.D.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 21, 2017, 06:45:42 PM
Ok, I guess I was completely wrong about us being better than last year....
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Buddy on October 21, 2017, 06:48:22 PM
Ok, I guess I was completely wrong about us being better than last year....

Maybe.  But with a healthy Wells it may have been different.  Like the end of the season last year
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Karl Hungus on October 21, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
The kids simply looked tired . Bye week sucked .
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 07:31:56 PM
The kids simply looked tired . Bye week sucked .

Beat up and tired, yes.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 21, 2017, 07:34:16 PM
The kids simply looked tired . Bye week sucked .

Beat up and tired, yes.

We also seems to slip a lot. It almost looked liked they didn’t have the right shoes on for the turf at the  uni dome
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 21, 2017, 07:50:13 PM
We have noticed that since the championship game about the proper cleats.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 21, 2017, 07:56:42 PM
Our O line play has been inconsistent this year?  Is it due to injuries?  Or some of it coaching?  We have a lot of moving parts that seem totally out of synch because of injuries.  Maybe it’s coaching here guys. We are also struggling at place kicker I have no faith in him now. We need to regroup and figure it out quick.  Maybe dummy up the playbook and go full blown smash mouth.  Run a power I.  Something Illinois st would not expect.  We have to coach with what we have.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Joe Bernastat on October 21, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
Awful performance on so many levels.  I have to wonder about the effort this past week.

OL performance was putrid.  Absolutely abhorrent. UNI is not that good.  They really are not.  Season is over. Looks to me like the staff and team packed it in last week. 
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 21, 2017, 08:33:17 PM
As a fan I was just mentally and physically exhausted from the Bison loss all week.. cant imagine how the team felt. I still feel this team is maybe as good if not better then last year's team. A 3-4 record is just hard for me to stomach since the 4 losses have come down to the wire against quality opponents and we have not been completely healthy during this stretch. I think the coaching staff finds a way to win the next 4 and we sneak in..I still believe in this team
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 21, 2017, 09:32:40 PM
Even if this team hasn't packed it in yet, do they even have enough talented bodies to field a team ?

Wells
Mays
McCaster
Wiggins
Newsome
Spencer
Reed
Wright



I mean yikes....
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: guinpen on October 21, 2017, 09:34:08 PM
How many sacks have we given up the past two weeks?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Joe Bernastat on October 21, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
As a fan I was just mentally and physically exhausted from the Bison loss all week.. cant imagine how the team felt. I still feel this team is maybe as good if not better then last year's team. A 3-4 record is just hard for me to stomach since the 4 losses have come down to the wire against quality opponents and we have not been completely healthy during this stretch. I think the coaching staff finds a way to win the next 4 and we sneak in..I still believe in this team

Today's game didn't "come down to the wire".  We were beaten in every phase of the game from the opening whistle.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 21, 2017, 10:28:49 PM
As a fan I was just mentally and physically exhausted from the Bison loss all week.. cant imagine how the team felt. I still feel this team is maybe as good if not better then last year's team. A 3-4 record is just hard for me to stomach since the 4 losses have come down to the wire against quality opponents and we have not been completely healthy during this stretch. I think the coaching staff finds a way to win the next 4 and we sneak in..I still believe in this team

Today's game didn't "come down to the wire".  We were beaten in every phase of the game from the opening whistles

Yes, the final score made it look closer than it was
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 21, 2017, 11:01:26 PM
So... Illinois stage beat USD... oh boy.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 22, 2017, 12:25:35 AM
How many sacks have we given up the past two weeks?

16- 10 today and 6 last week
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2017, 06:42:17 AM
While I realize that the OL is taking the brunt of this, the play calling isn't helping them.  When was the last time you saw us run a screen?  We rarely ever do an option outside with Mays in there and he is the person you need to do that with.  We tried to run the ball in the A or B gap on a 4th and 2 1/2 with 9 in the box at a point where we were getting beaten with a 4 man front.  Are you kidding me?  Secondly, no one is coaching Mays on how fast he needs to get rid of the ball.  In some cases he hasn't had a chance but in others he needs to throw it away.  Why do we only have one play with a rolling pocket?  we run about 5 different plays in a game.  There is zero creativity or situaional awareness on the play calling.

There are also some issues on defense.  When was the last time we forced an interception? I honestly can't remember, but it has been too long.  We don't try to rip the ball out either.  And the Db's never turn around.  We are definitely not as good as last year on the DL without Reed.  We need one more guy to break the dam and get to the QB.  Yesterday it was way more obvious.

Why is the FG kicker regressing?  Can someone else do It?

Chapman had a fantastic game on defense.  He and Dellovade are very good football players.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 22, 2017, 07:01:37 AM
Observing the defense and calling an audible at the line would help this offense power. I still can't understand why we are leaving the middle of the defense so wide open. Illinois St. put up close to 600 yards of offense on the coyotes so we better get things figured out and soon
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2017, 07:54:49 AM
They might need a visit from Lou Holds more than anything right now anyway.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 22, 2017, 09:28:39 AM
While I realize that the OL is taking the brunt of this, the play calling isn't helping them.  When was the last time you saw us run a screen?  We rarely ever do an option outside with Mays in there and he is the person you need to do that with.  We tried to run the ball in the A or B gap on a 4th and 2 1/2 with 9 in the box at a point where we were getting beaten with a 4 man front.  Are you kidding me?  Secondly, no one is coaching Mays on how fast he needs to get rid of the ball.  In some cases he hasn't had a chance but in others he needs to throw it away.  Why do we only have one play with a rolling pocket?  we run about 5 different plays in a game.  There is zero creativity or situaional awareness on the play calling.

There are also some issues on defense.  When was the last time we forced an interception? I honestly can't remember, but it has been too long.  We don't try to rip the ball out either.  And the Db's never turn around.  We are definitely not as good as last year on the DL without Reed.  We need one more guy to break the dam and get to the QB.  Yesterday it was way more obvious.

Why is the FG kicker regressing?  Can someone else do It?

Chapman had a fantastic game on defense.  He and Dellovade are very good football players.

Dellovade maybe good.  But he is too slow to cover a RB out of the backfield. He’s also a ankle diver. Needs to rap up. He is a smart Football player which makes him good.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 22, 2017, 11:02:51 AM
Even if this team hasn't packed it in yet, do they even have enough talented bodies to field a team ?

Wells
Mays
McCaster
Wiggins
Newsome
Spencer
Reed
Wright



I mean yikes....
Not many people know this but SD was missing three starters from their offense line when they played us. UNI had two starters out on the O-Line and another one got hurt during the game, plus their best defensive player was ejected for targeting. NDSU has battled injuries the entire season and were without key players against us..they find away..we need to do the same
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Penquin68 on October 22, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
On defense they basically dominated us.  No real fire and they easily got 5 yard gains on first down running.  We really did not match up well.  Also on many of the run plays we had players in the vicinity, but did not tackle. No pass rush made the qb look like Brady as he surveyed the field unmolested and threw with good accuracy.  Not much we could do with our defensive players against their offense.

On offense we sure don't pick up the blitz at all.  It works every time.  No hot receiver, not O line protection, over and over. At times it is on the qb for not sensing the pressure and throwing sooner or away. Also it seems like we never throw into single coverage that is remotely close.  And running into a strong run defensive alignment just doesn't work and we are 2nd and long or don't make a 1st down on 4th down.  If we make the field goal and the 1st down on the 4th down call we could win the game as poorly as we played. We continue on offense to make calls that are against the defensive strength and loose.  That can be fixed with a change in play calling and preparation for the stacked run defense, throwing on so called running downs, and prep for the blitzes we are going to face from now on.  As we are now, we can't succeed.

Can they make the needed changes? I hope so.  Maybe Ricky Davis can give them a spark and the offensive play calling and prep can change us into a less predictable offense and one that can pick up and burn the blitz. That can help the defense for sure and we can win.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 22, 2017, 07:00:43 PM
Let’s hope Bo can recruit to the league from here on out.  He is on record that he rather have overachievers with a high football IQ.  So size isn’t an issue for him. Wolford went out and had s blue print on what he wanted on both lines he wanted length and if he could size he would develop them.  Look at last years line it was enormous.  His game plan if he would have stayed he was recruiting upper Midwest etc because those kids had length. He said I am not trying to mean but the Mahoning Valley doesn’t and couldn’t provide that.  If you don’t have the physical attributes with the football IQ you end up getting beat up like we did this week and honestly it’s not going to get easier.  I hope we can right this to some W’s.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 22, 2017, 09:07:12 PM
Let’s hope Bo can recruit to the league from here on out.  He is on record that he rather have overachievers with a high football IQ.  So size isn’t an issue for him. Wolford went out and had s blue print on what he wanted on both lines he wanted length and if he could size he would develop them.  Look at last years line it was enormous.  His game plan if he would have stayed he was recruiting upper Midwest etc because those kids had length. He said I am not trying to mean but the Mahoning Valley doesn’t and couldn’t provide that.  If you don’t have the physical attributes with the football IQ you end up getting beat up like we did this week and honestly it’s not going to get easier.  I hope we can right this to some W’s.

Our o-line isn’t small by any means. Don’t think anyone’s under 6-4 or 6-3
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 22, 2017, 09:15:54 PM
This team is just not as good as last year. Especially now with the injuries.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: penguinpower on October 22, 2017, 11:48:02 PM
my opinion is that there we have a great supporting cast and have several playmakers out due to injury.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 23, 2017, 09:02:45 AM
Let’s hope Bo can recruit to the league from here on out.  He is on record that he rather have overachievers with a high football IQ.  So size isn’t an issue for him. Wolford went out and had s blue print on what he wanted on both lines he wanted length and if he could size he would develop them.  Look at last years line it was enormous.  His game plan if he would have stayed he was recruiting upper Midwest etc because those kids had length. He said I am not trying to mean but the Mahoning Valley doesn’t and couldn’t provide that.  If you don’t have the physical attributes with the football IQ you end up getting beat up like we did this week and honestly it’s not going to get easier.  I hope we can right this to some W’s.
Please correct me, but are you avocating going back to the tried and true winning ways of Eric Wolford?  Let's see, his playoff record was 0-0 if I'm not mistaken.  Bo is 4-1 if not mistaken.  Suggesting we are losing because our OL is too small is simply silly.  We are losing because we have failed to make a play here or there.  You complete a pass in OT against Pitt instead of and INT.   You make a FG in OT against. NDSU,  You make a defensive play against USD on the last drive............  OH what could have been. 
Man for man this team is better than last year's, given some health at QB.  IMO, next year's team, (Bo's last) will be better yet. 
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 23, 2017, 10:05:58 AM
Let’s hope Bo can recruit to the league from here on out.  He is on record that he rather have overachievers with a high football IQ.  So size isn’t an issue for him. Wolford went out and had s blue print on what he wanted on both lines he wanted length and if he could size he would develop them.  Look at last years line it was enormous.  His game plan if he would have stayed he was recruiting upper Midwest etc because those kids had length. He said I am not trying to mean but the Mahoning Valley doesn’t and couldn’t provide that.  If you don’t have the physical attributes with the football IQ you end up getting beat up like we did this week and honestly it’s not going to get easier.  I hope we can right this to some W’s.
Please correct me, but are you avocating going back to the tried and true winning ways of Eric Wolford?  Let's see, his playoff record was 0-0 if I'm not mistaken.  Bo is 4-1 if not mistaken.  Suggesting we are losing because our OL is too small is simply silly.  We are losing because we have failed to make a play here or there.  You complete a pass in OT against Pitt instead of and INT.   You make a FG in OT against. NDSU,  You make a defensive play against USD on the last drive............  OH what could have been. 
Man for man this team is better than last year's, given some health at QB.  IMO, next year's team, (Bo's last) will be better yet.



No it's not. The defense is worse and the OL and running game is worse.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 23, 2017, 10:23:51 AM
You guys are missing the point I was trying to make.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 23, 2017, 11:59:09 AM
You guys are missing the point I was trying to make.
which is?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 23, 2017, 12:38:08 PM
Poor performance by the Guins.  I really thought they would bounce back in a big way from the two tough losses, but instead they regressed, especially Mays.  Too bad Bo's crystal ball didn't tell him before the spring that Wells would only see action in six quarters through seven games.  He would have left Ricky at QB, and be in a little better position.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 23, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
Poor performance by the Guins.  I really thought they would bounce back in a big way from the two tough losses, but instead they regressed, especially Mays.  Too bad Bo's crystal ball didn't tell him before the spring that Wells would only see action in six quarters through seven games.  He would have left Ricky at QB, and be in a little better position.
I'm not as sure as you on Davis.  We saw one really good half against WVU and that is really it.  Hard to say how good he would have been.  HE didn't think he was as good as Hunter or Mays or he wouldn't have asked to go to WR.   Nobody, at any level is good with the 3rd string guy at QB.   Too bad, this team could have done something in the playoffs again with reasonable health.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: goodnews on October 23, 2017, 01:39:33 PM
Need a QB transfer that can actually read defenses rather then this gimmick/predictable offense that leaves us 1 dimensional. The opponents defense dictates our game plans rather than our offense dictating the defense. They recruit the same type of quarterback and none seem to get better at managing the game and often regress as time goes on...
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: go guins on October 23, 2017, 01:58:27 PM
Need a QB transfer that can actually read defenses rather then this gimmick/predictable offense that leaves us 1 dimensional. The opponents defense dictates our game plans rather than our offense dictating the defense. They recruit the same type of quarterback and none seem to get better at managing the game and often regress as time goes on...
it's very easy to type "need a QB transfer that can actually read defenses"  but  not so easy to do.  if the kid can actually read defenses and get the ball to the open guy, he probably has the job wherever he is now!  Brown at Pitt is the example.  They thought they had the answer and DID NOT.  I wouldn't have traded the USC grad student for Wells, maybe not even Mays.   If the kid in Columbus could "actually read defenses" he'd be a solid NFL prospect, but he can't.  Same for Dolphins Cutler, or Chiefs Smith or that Cowboys bum Romo for all 10 years he showed potential.  They say hitting a baseball as the hardest single thing is sports, it isn't.  The single hardest thing is sports is for a QB to read the defense.  The worst MLB player gets a hit 1 in 5 times while the best is 1-3, but there are only about 10-20 QBs in the world that can consistantly read a D in live action. 
That's why you have a game plan and coaches calling plays.  Talking transfer is easy, but rarely works.  Most need to be coached and developed.  Mays is about 20% the passer that Hunter is, but has a couple years to be coached and developed, and good-bad-indefferent, I'd bet our near future is in Nate's hands.   
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: dwj on October 23, 2017, 02:28:45 PM
Could Hunter be back next year?  Basically our season is over and if he only has played 6 quarters can they redshirt him?  He appears to be the best we have & SM loves him. 
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: 2000YSU on October 23, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
Could Hunter be back next year?  Basically our season is over and if he only has played 6 quarters can they redshirt him?  He appears to be the best we have & SM loves him. 

There are 4 rules regarding a medical redshirt one it must be suffered in season two must be a season ending injury third the injury must occur prior to the second half of the season fourth the injured player can not compete in thirty percent or three games of the season (whichever is greater). So as to if Hunter is eligible for a medical redshirt it depends on how they count the game time because he played the whole game at pitt less than half the game vs Robert Morris and about 5 minutes vs South Dakota State so how they determine his playing time will be the factor that determines his eligibility
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: Kandrase on October 23, 2017, 03:53:34 PM
Poor performance by the Guins.  I really thought they would bounce back in a big way from the two tough losses, but instead they regressed, especially Mays.  Too bad Bo's crystal ball didn't tell him before the spring that Wells would only see action in six quarters through seven games.  He would have left Ricky at QB, and be in a little better position.
I'm not as sure as you on Davis.  We saw one really good half against WVU and that is really it.  Hard to say how good he would have been.  HE didn't think he was as good as Hunter or Mays or he wouldn't have asked to go to WR.   Nobody, at any level is good with the 3rd string guy at QB.   Too bad, this team could have done something in the playoffs again with reasonable health.

You might be surprised. D3s Mount Union went to the National semi-finals with their 3rd string qb last year. To be fair this was a let down for them since it was the first time they failed to make the finals in 11 years. Come to think of it maybe we can get one of Mount Unions back ups to transfer :)

Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSU1 on October 23, 2017, 07:13:44 PM
It does not seem we make any adjustments during the game.  It it did not work in the first half it certainly is not going to work in the second half.  Do something different.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: IAA Fan on October 23, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
A few things:

1. A player has 5-years to play 4. So it does not matter if he meets NCAA sidelines for a medical hardship if this is his 5th-year of eligibility, as there is no remaining year. At this point, a player can ask for the medical waiver if he meets the requirements that 2000 pointed out. Hunter did not red-shirt so this will be interesting. Also, for eligibility, all you need to do is take one snap and you ave played that year. Hunter played his frosh year ... 2014-15-16 & now 17, so has no more eligibility. Medical is his only hope, but not sure how he gets it because he has not taken a red-shirt year, but again he has exhausted his eligibility.

2. We changed up quite bit this past week on offense & I thought Mays did well and showed improvement. I really thought we would have this game with ease, once the coaches son was ejected, but they switched up the defense instead...very smart. However, we did not seem to be prepared for the return of a couple UNI's key players and the resulting balanced offensive attack. UNI discovered they could stop our #37 with just the front 4, so they were free to move everyone inside and blitz at will. This would not have happened last year, as Ruiz had the ability to gain yards beyond the line (so opposing LB's had to stay in position) & Webb could catch the corner, something that I do not think has happened yet this year. I know that we need him to be more, but it is not prudent to think Mays is going to be more than what he is ...a QB with 4 starts. There were some obvious drops. We had just terrible communication on defense, which I thought Carl had figured out.

3. Montgomery is a system guy, which is why we can interject players more freely. What hurt us mostly on offense was our tailback play and line depth. When our TB's see double coverage, then you will see Mays' time to throw increase and his need to run decrease. Fundamental tackling has to improve & we need to be more balanced. How many other QB's are going to burn us with their feet because there is no one backing up the corners?
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 23, 2017, 09:32:23 PM
The O-Line is much worse than last year and the D-Line cannot get pressure at all besides Reed who is hurt.
Title: Re: UNI
Post by: YSUGO on October 24, 2017, 08:16:30 AM
I was told Hunter couldn't get the redshirt already played too much.