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Title: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 08, 2017, 08:36:59 PM
The Bison roll into town undefeated, yet again, and are ranked #2 in the nation. The weather for Saturday looks fantastic for mid-October with a high of 80 and mostly sunny skies. Obviously the fan base is likely still down from the heartbreaking loss to USD, but this is a huge game under the lights and we need a big crowd to get behind the team. If we can win this game (easier said than done) we would have gone 2 of 3 against arguably the 3 best teams in the league.

Also, although I’m not too familiar with them, the Barstool Sports tailgate radio show will be on campus for this top ten battle.

Go Guins!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 08, 2017, 09:24:00 PM
The Bison roll into town undefeated, yet again, and are ranked #2 in the nation. The weather for Saturday looks fantastic for mid-October with a high of 80 and mostly sunny skies. Obviously the fan base is likely still down from the heartbreaking loss to USD, but this is a huge game under the lights and we need a big crowd to get behind the team. If we can win this game (easier said than done) we would have gone 2 of 3 against arguably the 3 best teams in the league.

Also, although I’m not too familiar with them, the Barstool Sports tailgate radio show will be on campus for this top ten battle.

Go Guins!

Barstool are midwest guys trying to make it with a blog. They seem to be doing everything right. Someone needs to get a hold of them and send them to Elmton and the original Wedgewood pizza. They have rated pizza at every place so far this year & like our Guins ...we hold our own against anyone. One of them called the MSU upset & they are getting a great deal of attention, this will help us.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 08, 2017, 10:10:11 PM
Better see 15k+ in the stands.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
LETS GET IT ON!

I Don't expect NDSU to lose a game this year, sorry, but I personally feel that NDSU doesn't belong in the FCS, maybe Youngstown doesnt either??

NDSU's offense will be the only question mark going into this game as they haven't faced a defense yet, 5 straight cupcakes gets ya fat!

NDSU Defense is top notch, so I'm expecting a similar game to 2013 (when I graced Youngstown with my presence) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwGGdg3Ia2M   35-17

Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 09, 2017, 12:36:45 PM
Lakebison- It seems like you guys have done a pretty good job overcoming some of the early season injuries. I seen that Deluca returned for Missouri St. but the other starting linebacker was lost in that game. How is the overall health of your team including depth?
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: tjbison on October 09, 2017, 06:07:23 PM
Lakebison- It seems like you guys have done a pretty good job overcoming some of the early season injuries. I seen that Deluca returned for Missouri St. but the other starting linebacker was lost in that game. How is the overall health of your team including depth?

Sitting pretty good, our 2nd and 3rd strings have got a ton of reps this year unlike last year.  Biggest name out is Greg Menard but he hasn't played a snap this year
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 09, 2017, 06:23:27 PM
LETS GET IT ON!

I Don't expect NDSU to lose a game this year, sorry, but I personally feel that NDSU doesn't belong in the FCS, maybe Youngstown doesnt either??

NDSU's offense will be the only question mark going into this game as they haven't faced a defense yet, 5 straight cupcakes gets ya fat!

NDSU Defense is top notch, so I'm expecting a similar game to 2013 (when I graced Youngstown with my presence) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwGGdg3Ia2M   35-17

Careful what you wish for there. I wonder how Appalachian state fans feel never getting to compete for a national championship again lol. Both NDSU and YSU  have good enough teams to compete in FBS, but “belonging” is a different issue all together.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 09, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
If we can't run the ball with any success, NDSU defense will eat Mays alive.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Karl Hungus on October 09, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
Right you are Chiefy  .
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 10, 2017, 08:35:03 AM
http://www.gobison.com/news/2017/10/9/football-no-2-north-dakota-state-at-no-8-youngstown-state-saturday-on-espn3.aspx?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter A little information on the Bison
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 10, 2017, 08:47:07 AM
If we can't run the ball with any success, NDSU defense will eat Mays alive.
They have seen the read option for 2 years now so you can forget that. Mays or Davis need to hit some deep balls and stretch the field if not our running game will be in trouble. Their defense is head and shoulders above that of the bunnies and coyote's
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 10, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
LETS GET IT ON!

I Don't expect NDSU to lose a game this year, sorry, but I personally feel that NDSU doesn't belong in the FCS, maybe Youngstown doesnt either??

NDSU's offense will be the only question mark going into this game as they haven't faced a defense yet, 5 straight cupcakes gets ya fat!

NDSU Defense is top notch, so I'm expecting a similar game to 2013 (when I graced Youngstown with my presence) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwGGdg3Ia2M   35-17

LOL ... this topic has been discussed on this board for years now ...long before we even heard of NDSU. As I have told many YSU fans I will tell you. Being a team that no FCS team can afford summer camp time to prepare for does not make you (or YSU) a IA/FBS team. Not to mention we both lack facilities, although ours are a bit more deserving. Please do not respond with "Dome talk" It is a basketball area with turf, just as UNI is. Also let's not talk weather, you are a plain state. Try being just south of a great lake and being pummeled by moisture all winter ...you will then know what bone-chilling cold is all about. Try recruiting in a state with more than 2 DI programs and having your natural rivals being IA ... not I-AA and DII. Try recruiting in a local region that is highly touted and scoured by bigger clubs and a general region of over 70 DI programs ...instead of 7. We all have our good and bad. Your run will end, just as ours did (and GSU's, Marshall's, Appy State and EKU's did before you) and people will wonder what ever happened to those Bison. Hope you move up and you will be as irrelevant in the college football world as Nevada, Boise State, WKU and many others that did the same. If YSU moves up people may wonder the same, but at least fans will be able to travel to away conference games after a stop at a gas station ...not an airport.

So, back to the current game at hand.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 10, 2017, 12:30:52 PM
Unless Mays plays a great game, I'd like to see Ricky get a chance.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 10, 2017, 01:25:18 PM
LETS GET IT ON!

I Don't expect NDSU to lose a game this year, sorry, but I personally feel that NDSU doesn't belong in the FCS, maybe Youngstown doesnt either??

NDSU's offense will be the only question mark going into this game as they haven't faced a defense yet, 5 straight cupcakes gets ya fat!

NDSU Defense is top notch, so I'm expecting a similar game to 2013 (when I graced Youngstown with my presence) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwGGdg3Ia2M   35-17

LOL ... this topic has been discussed on this board for years now ...long before we even heard of NDSU. As I have told many YSU fans I will tell you. Being a team that no FCS team can afford summer camp time to prepare for does not make you (or YSU) a IA/FBS team. Not to mention we both lack facilities, although ours are a bit more deserving. Please do not respond with "Dome talk" It is a basketball area with turf, just as UNI is. Also let's not talk weather, you are a plain state. Try being just south of a great lake and being pummeled by moisture all winter ...you will then know what bone-chilling cold is all about. Try recruiting in a state with more than 2 DI programs and having your natural rivals being IA ... not I-AA and DII. Try recruiting in a local region that is highly touted and scoured by bigger clubs and a general region of over 70 DI programs ...instead of 7. We all have our good and bad. Your run will end, just as ours did (and GSU's, Marshall's, Appy State and EKU's did before you) and people will wonder what ever happened to those Bison. Hope you move up and you will be as irrelevant in the college football world as Nevada, Boise State, WKU and many others that did the same. If YSU moves up people may wonder the same, but at least fans will be able to travel to away conference games after a stop at a gas station ...not an airport.

So, back to the current game at hand.

We’ll put , I didn’t mean to start a tangent the phrase “belonging in FCS” triggered me haha.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 10, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
Bo says Hunter is 50/50 to play. Same with Justus.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 10, 2017, 06:27:25 PM
Bo says Hunter is 50/50 to play. Same with Justus.

Neither practiced today
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 10, 2017, 07:36:22 PM
If Reed doesn't practice all week and he feels good enough to go saturday, I let him go. Need that pass rusher.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 10, 2017, 07:51:12 PM
These guys do an excellent job.  Too bad we don't have this type of coverage.  I watch their stuff every week because nobody covers the MVFC like these two. I appreciate their points of view and they are respectful to every team but still tell it like it is.

https://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/bison-video-blog-youngstown-state-preview-2/
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 10, 2017, 11:12:42 PM
These guys do an excellent job.  Too bad we don't have this type of coverage.  I watch their stuff every week because nobody covers the MVFC like these two. I appreciate their points of view and they are respectful to every team but still tell it like it is.

https://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/bison-video-blog-youngstown-state-preview-2/

Wow that was really well done. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: tjbison on October 11, 2017, 07:41:50 AM
Jeff and Dom do great

You can also listen to Bison 1660 from 12 to 2 your time this week for good pre game, they always have opposing teams beat writers, play by play guys and coaches on

They have an app you can stream thru, little more homerish but still good to listen to

www.bison1660.com
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 11, 2017, 09:37:01 AM
NDSU Pregame Presser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAMEvsycl24
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 11, 2017, 05:56:22 PM
How many Bison fans are headed this way ?
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: 2000YSU on October 11, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
How many Bison fans are headed this way ?
The guy from NDSU who Hannon talked to on Penguin Playbook said that he expects 400-500 Bison fans to make the trip. Similar to the crowd they brought to Indiana State last Saturday.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 11, 2017, 10:27:05 PM
Expecting a good game.

Hate 7:00 starts.

With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 11, 2017, 10:52:00 PM
Expecting a good game.

Hate 7:00 starts.

With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.


The first person I've EVER heard say that about YSU games, yikes.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: NDSUSR on October 11, 2017, 10:54:00 PM


With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.

Seriously, after the sh** going on at YSU, you throw this idiotic comment out there?
#braindead
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 11, 2017, 11:07:43 PM


With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.

Seriously, after the sh** going on at YSU, you throw this idiotic comment out there?
#braindead

Wow that was easy, only 27 minutes to prove they ( well at least one fan ) have not. Too bad.

Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 11, 2017, 11:52:31 PM
#1 = NDSU should be FCS. 88-7 and  5 titles and a 9-3 record to FBS.. Nuff Said.  Sorry.

#2 = in 2013 NDSU had at least 1500 fans down there in youngstown, 1000 fans in 2015... id say the same this year, its Pheasant Hunting opener up here and Vikings Packers game so alot of us are doing those things instead of coming down.. Sorry!

#3 = yelling Bison at the end of the anthem isn't disrespectful at all.. we sign the entire anthem!

Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 12, 2017, 12:09:01 AM
#1 = NDSU should be FCS. 88-7 and  5 titles and a 9-3 record to FBS.. Nuff Said.  Sorry.

#2 = in 2013 NDSU had at least 1500 fans down there in youngstown, 1000 fans in 2015... id say the same this year, its Pheasant Hunting opener up here and Vikings Packers game so alot of us are doing those things instead of coming down.. Sorry!

#3 = yelling Bison at the end of the anthem isn't disrespectful at all.. we sign the entire anthem!

We enjoy your company Lakes, but just don't sit down for the Anthem...That's all
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 12, 2017, 12:22:24 AM
#1 = NDSU should be FCS. 88-7 and  5 titles and a 9-3 record to FBS.. Nuff Said.  Sorry.

#2 = in 2013 NDSU had at least 1500 fans down there in youngstown, 1000 fans in 2015... id say the same this year, its Pheasant Hunting opener up here and Vikings Packers game so alot of us are doing those things instead of coming down.. Sorry!

#3 = yelling Bison at the end of the anthem isn't disrespectful at all.. we sign the entire anthem!

1. Did you mean shouldn’t? Look, as long as NDSU has 63 full scholarships just like the rest of us they “belong” in FCS.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 12, 2017, 12:14:22 PM
Bo says Hunter is 50/50 to play.

Bo's just throwing that out there for the Cows.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Looking forward to a great game!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Joe Bernastat on October 12, 2017, 08:55:31 PM
I'm with Chief. Looking forward to a slobber knocker.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on October 12, 2017, 09:48:19 PM
Fully expect this to be a good game. I'm so stoked  ;D
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 12, 2017, 10:29:04 PM
Better come out physical.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 13, 2017, 12:18:36 AM
im quite surprised at how quiet this week has gone. I figured people would be amp'ed up.  kinda wishing you guys wouldve beat USD, then it wouldve been a bigger game!

NDSU is going to Run the ball & play smashmouth and I'm guessing Bo will too!.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 13, 2017, 06:27:43 AM
We cannot turn the ball over.  This game is going to be like the national championship.  We must game plan better than last week and everyone must execute at a high level.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 13, 2017, 10:20:43 AM
I haven't even seen a tweet from 1 of our players this week.
are your players quiet on twitter too?

its just so odd.   well, screw it , I think it's gonna be an exciting game to watch! Cant Wait!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 13, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
I think both staffs and players know how big this game is.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 13, 2017, 06:07:53 PM
Chief the fact we bring a 3-2 record into this game makes it very important. A win would increase our chances of home playoff games. A loss and another bump in the road down the stretch No home game and No guarantee of post season
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 13, 2017, 07:05:33 PM


With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.

Seriously, after the sh** going on at YSU, you throw this idiotic comment out there?
#braindead

Care to be more specific? Because I seriously have no idea what you are referring to.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 13, 2017, 07:10:38 PM
Chief the fact we bring a 3-2 record into this game makes it very important. A win would increase our chances of home playoff games. A loss and another bump in the road down the stretch No home game and No guarantee of post season
Guys we all know that a win at UNI is about a 25% probability and tremendously more difficult game. We match up well with NDSU,  with last weeks loss, this is clearly a "must win". Frankly the rest of the season is. 2 conference losses will probably not do it in 2017.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 13, 2017, 10:09:06 PM
I laugh when you say we "match up well" with the Bison. They own us. Haven't beaten them since 2011.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Wick250 on October 13, 2017, 11:47:55 PM
NDSU is an excellent team.  Nobody in FCS matches up well against them.  UNI is on their way to the MVFC second division: can't run the ball and yielding over 450 yards per game.  They might beat us out there (they always do) but they won't win more than three conference games.

The 24 team playoff has created a new reality.  Any MVFC team that finishes 7-4, 5-3 will make the field.  Regardless of the outcome tomorrow, we should win the last five games.  Our schedule really lightens up while the other talented teams in the conference will cannibalize each other down the stretch.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on October 14, 2017, 08:17:35 AM
Rise and shine! It's gameday! I'm already back in the Yo and at YSU! fb
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 14, 2017, 08:28:33 AM
Does anyone know what happened with Isaiah Scott? I look for Ricky Davis to play in todays game..wouldn't mind seeing a few deep shots to Bailey and Patterson especially if the corners are playing up
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 14, 2017, 08:34:38 AM
does this double as the game day thread??

no suprises on ndsu injury report.  looks like all hands on deck!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Buddy on October 14, 2017, 09:00:36 AM
Game notes still have Hunter listed as starting QB along with Mays
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 14, 2017, 09:19:55 AM
Game notes still have Hunter listed as starting QB along with Mays

Wells was listed as the starter last week, fyi. So take the depth chart with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on October 14, 2017, 09:21:28 AM
What do you mean what happened to Scott fever? Because he is listed as OR with Stefan Derrick?
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 14, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
What do you mean what happened to Scott fever? Because he is listed as OR with Stefan Derrick?

I don't think he saw the field really at all last week. Maybe a snap or two.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Buddy on October 14, 2017, 09:43:27 AM
Game notes still have Hunter listed as starting QB along with Mays

I Know.   Just bored and waiting for the game!!!!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on October 14, 2017, 09:45:50 AM
What do you mean what happened to Scott fever? Because he is listed as OR with Stefan Derrick?

I don't think he saw the field really at all last week. Maybe a snap or two.
It's my understanding Scott didn't make the trip to South Dakota with the team
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 14, 2017, 09:46:43 AM
What do you mean what happened to Scott fever? Because he is listed as OR with Stefan Derrick?

I don't think he saw the field really at all last week. Maybe a snap or two.
It's my understanding Scott didn't make the trip to South Dakota with the team


He's just never put it all together for some reason. Athletic ability is top notch.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on October 14, 2017, 09:47:55 AM
I didn't realize that he didn't play in South Dakota.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Buddy on October 14, 2017, 12:50:42 PM
Wish this was an earlier game.  I hate waiting around and OSU is at 7:30 so that will keep people away!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: goodnews on October 14, 2017, 01:17:07 PM
No doubt COLLEGE GAME DAY would be in Ytown had they won last week.  Instead they are at JMU for the Villanova game..
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 14, 2017, 01:23:22 PM
LOVE night games. Crowd should be big and rocking!!!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 14, 2017, 02:20:29 PM
LOVE night games. Crowd should be big and rocking!!!

Love night games also. Makes it easier for me to fly in
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 14, 2017, 07:32:41 PM
wow  ugly start for NDSU.

ysu pounding it
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Buddy on October 14, 2017, 07:38:33 PM
Our secondary needs to learn how to tackle. This ain’t tag guys
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Buddy on October 14, 2017, 07:44:22 PM
Crap.  Can we ever have a call go our way?
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: GoGuins2016 on October 14, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
What was up with Bo going after the other coach?
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on October 14, 2017, 08:32:32 PM
why in the literal f*** is montgomery calling for mays to throw so much?  Didnt we learn our lesson in SD?

On a bright note...great crowd!!!  Lol
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on October 14, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
To quote Bo just before the rader td to his microphone..."RUN THE f***ING BALL!!!!"  Wonder who he was talking to? 
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on October 14, 2017, 09:19:19 PM
Aaaaaand more throwing aaaaaand another sack.  Asaaaand please stop asking him to throw.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: WeAreYoungstown on October 14, 2017, 10:14:10 PM
Another game blown by our kicker
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 14, 2017, 10:36:09 PM
I'M sorry   NDSU blew that game   horrible clock mgmt... YSU shouldve won that     man     ill take the W.  but I'm  pissed and disappointed
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSUGO on October 14, 2017, 10:43:44 PM
They had the better qb offensive line and defensive line and obviously a better kicker when the game was on the line. They rushed for 280 yds ....any other reasons you can think of please pile it on. 
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: WeAreYoungstown on October 14, 2017, 10:53:38 PM
Shut up lake you won. Go back to your cave
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 14, 2017, 11:12:50 PM
Just got home. Has Kennedy ever made a clutch kick for us ?????? I mean my god. Kid just doesn't have it. Disgusting way to end.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 14, 2017, 11:55:19 PM
To quote Bo just before the rader td to his microphone..."RUN THE ******* BALL!!!!"  Wonder who he was talking to?

lots of confusion there 34 ...the TO was smart. Both TE's were confused.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 15, 2017, 12:27:13 AM
They had the better qb offensive line and defensive line and obviously a better kicker when the game was on the line. They rushed for 280 yds ....any other reasons you can think of please pile it on.
They were still very fortunate to win it--I expected them to be a much better team than they showed--either team could've won that one--a lot of the 280yds came on that long run by Stick where the refs missed plenty of penalties--tough loss but they fought to the end and never gave up.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: NDSUSR on October 15, 2017, 01:13:40 AM


With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.

Seriously, after the sh** going on at YSU, you throw this idiotic comment out there?
#braindead

Care to be more specific? Because I seriously have no idea what you are referring to.

After the Bison's RJ Urzendowski made an ESPN-worthy touchdown catch early in the second quarter—one hand, left-handed on a bullet throw to the corner of the end zone by Easton Stick—a Youngstown State fan threw a bowl of chili on the NDSU receiver as he was jogging back to the bench.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 15, 2017, 06:51:41 AM
Kennedy's FG percentage has to be below 40%. Just terrible. Gave the game away. Mays is what he is. A backup QB. Can't read defenses or throw the ball downfield. Was scared all night. Used his legs well but that's about all he's got. We really missed Reed out there.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 15, 2017, 07:28:41 AM
I don't see us making the playoffs. Sucks having the bye week so early because we are beat the hell up right now.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 15, 2017, 07:52:26 AM
While it sucks we lost, that was certainly entertaining.  I like our chances in a rematch, especially if we had Reed back.  What a game.  The missed FG was the difference maker and had we not iced the kicker it would have gone to 2 Overtimes.  unbelievable
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 15, 2017, 07:53:23 AM
I don't see us making the playoffs. Sucks having the bye week so early because we are beat the hell up right now.

We can make it.  YSU is a good football team.  We just need to win the ones we are supposed to win going forward.  We have all of the ingredients for a deep playoff run, especially if we get some people back from injuries
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 15, 2017, 07:56:48 AM
Kennedy's FG percentage has to be below 40%. Just terrible. Gave the game away. Mays is what he is. A backup QB. Can't read defenses or throw the ball downfield. Was scared all night. Used his legs well but that's about all he's got. We really missed Reed out there.

I disagree.  Mays came a long way tonight.  I thought some of his throws were fantastic, especially the fade for a TD.  This is the first time I felt Mays was adequate.  The play calling was suspect at times.  We lost this game because of the missed FG.  Otherwise it goes to 2OT
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 15, 2017, 07:59:27 AM


With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.

Seriously, after the sh** going on at YSU, you throw this idiotic comment out there?
#braindead

Wow that was easy, only 27 minutes to prove they ( well at least one fan ) have not. Too bad.

Hey I call it the way I see it, I was impressed, had a lot of bison fans sitting around me and NONE of them were disrespectful during the anthem. Good to see.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSU1 on October 15, 2017, 08:00:16 AM
Hey their kicker missed but we called a time out.  He got to kick again and made it.  It seemed in overtime we were playing for the FG.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 15, 2017, 08:06:07 AM
Good game, team loss. For the second week the opposing qb just killed us. Three close losses, 2 in ot, but a loss is a loss. We are a good team just need to take one game at a time. 
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 15, 2017, 08:21:28 AM
I'd say that was the biggest and best crowd in many many years. Shame the result we got...
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 15, 2017, 09:03:42 AM
On that 3rd drive by the Bison just, they just took it to us. They rammed that ball right down our throats, that is where we lost the game. Capped off by Carl bringing in the safety and a Stick TD toss right over the middle to wide-open TE. Same Stick as usual. Not the fasted guy in the world, but he runs great angles and vision. Again misplaced coverage gave Stick a 90-yard rushing TD ...absolutely no excuse there. Also, we left 10-points on the field. Mays was very good today, despite mistakes. Montgomery stretched the offense to Mays ability very well & they were still efficient (24-points on 338 yards). I still think that Mays can earn the starting job with enough experience and he is showing it. That 3rd & 15 toss for Patterson took ice water. The 20+ yard TD throws to Rader and Powell were also quite good. Not enough #20 in the backfield either. I would love to see a comparison on rushing first-down yardage ...the NDSU defense really seemed to have kept us in second and long. Worst officiating yet and awesome Castle-crowd pointing it out.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Wick250 on October 15, 2017, 10:26:55 AM
Agonizing loss.  At times like this, Wolford's teams quit.  Let's hope that Bo has really changed the culture and that the players will understand that their goals are still very much within their grasp.

As we discussed last week, the top tier of FCS this season consists of MVFC teams plus James Madison.  Who are the real top five now, regardless of what any national polls state?  How about:

1. NDSDU
2. South Dakota
3 James Madison
4. YSU
5. Wofford?, Jacksonville State?, Eastern Washington?  Fill in the blank.  None of them could beat the top four.

As Power suggested, a long playoff run is still quite attainable.  Find a way to win next week and then dispatch the four weakest teams in the conference.  We still should finish 8-3, 6-2.  7-4, 5-3 will be good enough. 
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSUGO on October 15, 2017, 10:36:36 AM
Sorry power will disagree with you on our chances on a rematch if that happens it's on the road probably their place.  It was a good game but I was truly disappointed how we gave up that drive Right before the second half where they only had a couple of minutes.  That sh** costs you and it did. Again they have the better lines and qb.  And specials teams is one third of the game and they won that as well.  I see playoffs if we get in and if the committee was smart they would put us on opposite sides of the bracket and I could see us meeting in frisco.  But if we did that will not be a neutral site as the Bison will have a huge crowd vs our 4K that might show up.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 15, 2017, 10:43:34 AM
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like we never run the ball to the left side? I’m surprised they when our run game stalled out in the second half that Montgomery didn’t at least try to run to the left.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 15, 2017, 02:46:59 PM
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like we never run the ball to the left side? I’m surprised they when our run game stalled out in the second half that Montgomery didn’t at least try to run to the left.

That's too much for Montgomery to handle. He only does things the other team will know are coming.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Penquin68 on October 15, 2017, 05:01:36 PM
NCS had a better O Line and D Line and QB.  But we still could have won because you win with a team.  The last 2 weeks in the final series with the game tied, they stack the line and we run the ball into that.  Either we have no faith in our QB to throw against a run defense or our play calling is suspect. In our final drive for a td, when we threw into their single coverage, it worked. Yes the db was close, but it worked.  At this level the offensive receiver has the advantage over the db, and we are reluctant to throw unless the receiver is very open which doesn't happen with the pass rush we face against good teams. We need quick throws to beat the blitzing that we face. Trying to drop back and view the field hoping for a wide open receiver is not possible with the pressure. Thus we get sacked and are up against it for that series.  I feel we play right into the opponents hand doing what we do.  And the QB must get rid of the ball quickly which rarely  happens.  Remember the Pitt game. They are as good as the teams we lost to the last 2 weeks.  We threw against them. Yes a different QB, but different play calling too.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Joe Bernastat on October 15, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like we never run the ball to the left side? I’m surprised they when our run game stalled out in the second half that Montgomery didn’t at least try to run to the left.

That's too much for Montgomery to handle. He only does things the other team will know are coming.

The Chief don't like Monty.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 15, 2017, 09:19:30 PM
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like we never run the ball to the left side? I’m surprised they when our run game stalled out in the second half that Montgomery didn’t at least try to run to the left.

That's too much for Montgomery to handle. He only does things the other team will know are coming.

The Chief don't like Monty.


Don't care for his play calling. Think he's overstayed his welcome here at YSU.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 16, 2017, 12:42:59 PM
Difference in the game was the inability to curb Stick's running.  YSU did a good job when he threw the ball (11-20 for 113), and the D contained their rb's (29 for 108, 3.7 per), but Stick killed the Guins with his feet (11 for 172).  172 yards rushing for a QB that came into the game with 92 yards on the season.  If YSU had a LB or defensive back "spying" him, they didn't do their job, and if they weren't using a "spy" they should have been.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ucfpengbuck on October 16, 2017, 01:52:07 PM
Difference in the game was the inability to curb Stick's running.  YSU did a good job when he threw the ball (11-20 for 113), and the D contained their rb's (29 for 108, 3.7 per), but Stick killed the Guins with his feet (11 for 172).  172 yards rushing for a QB that came into the game with 92 yards on the season.  If YSU had a LB or defensive back "spying" him, they didn't do their job, and if they weren't using a "spy" they should have been.

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Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 16, 2017, 01:58:04 PM
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like we never run the ball to the left side? I’m surprised they when our run game stalled out in the second half that Montgomery didn’t at least try to run to the left.

That's too much for Montgomery to handle. He only does things the other team will know are coming.

The Chief don't like Monty.
Surely you can't be serious! 8)
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 16, 2017, 02:52:30 PM
Difference in the game was the inability to curb Stick's running.  YSU did a good job when he threw the ball (11-20 for 113), and the D contained their rb's (29 for 108, 3.7 per), but Stick killed the Guins with his feet (11 for 172).  172 yards rushing for a QB that came into the game with 92 yards on the season.  If YSU had a LB or defensive back "spying" him, they didn't do their job, and if they weren't using a "spy" they should have been.

Right on. I would add the fact that they were able to ram the ball down are throats at will late in the first half and middle second half. Then Carl did his famous safety creep and then Stick hit a completely unguarded TE for the score. That is because our D-line was dominated outside of the 30, when Carl cannot put his LB's on the butts of the DL. Monty's play-calling was excellent this game. I still question his TB and TE rotation though. We were still being pushed into second-and-long 2/3's of the drives, but Mays was able to get the ball downfield this week.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 16, 2017, 03:40:29 PM
Difference in the game was the inability to curb Stick's running.  YSU did a good job when he threw the ball (11-20 for 113), and the D contained their rb's (29 for 108, 3.7 per), but Stick killed the Guins with his feet (11 for 172).  172 yards rushing for a QB that came into the game with 92 yards on the season.  If YSU had a LB or defensive back "spying" him, they didn't do their job, and if they weren't using a "spy" they should have been.

Right on. I would add the fact that they were able to ram the ball down are throats at will late in the first half and middle second half. Then Carl did his famous safety creep and then Stick hit a completely unguarded TE for the score. That is because our D-line was dominated outside of the 30, when Carl cannot put his LB's on the butts of the DL. Monty's play-calling was excellent this game. I still question his TB and TE rotation though. We were still being pushed into second-and-long 2/3's of the drives, but Mays was able to get the ball downfield this week.

I don’t blame the safety creep for the TE touchdown. The safety wasn’t coming up on that coverage he was doubling the WR. It’s the job of the LB to cover that tight end and he got beat bad, he never touched him. By the time he turned and ran with him it was too late
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Karl Hungus on October 16, 2017, 04:08:24 PM
Hey DavidS , he is serious & stop calling him Shirley . ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 16, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
Here is one for both the coordinators:

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you".  ;)
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 16, 2017, 05:21:19 PM
Difference in the game was the inability to curb Stick's running.  YSU did a good job when he threw the ball (11-20 for 113), and the D contained their rb's (29 for 108, 3.7 per), but Stick killed the Guins with his feet (11 for 172).  172 yards rushing for a QB that came into the game with 92 yards on the season.  If YSU had a LB or defensive back "spying" him, they didn't do their job, and if they weren't using a "spy" they should have been.

Agree
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 16, 2017, 05:23:07 PM
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like we never run the ball to the left side? I’m surprised they when our run game stalled out in the second half that Montgomery didn’t at least try to run to the left.

That's too much for Montgomery to handle. He only does things the other team will know are coming.

The Chief don't like Monty.

Gee ya think! Funny
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: KilrpengWin on October 16, 2017, 06:58:34 PM


With all the recent controversy about disrespecting the flag and national anthem, I will be curious to see if our bison friends have cleaned up their act.

Seriously, after the sh** going on at YSU, you throw this idiotic comment out there?
#braindead

Care to be more specific? Because I seriously have no idea what you are referring to.

After the Bison's RJ Urzendowski made an ESPN-worthy touchdown catch early in the second quarter—one hand, left-handed on a bullet throw to the corner of the end zone by Easton Stick—a Youngstown State fan threw a bowl of chili on the NDSU receiver as he was jogging back to the bench.
You mean they were serving Chili at the concession stand????? I've got to leave my seat more often! ;D
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: lakesbison on October 17, 2017, 12:08:24 AM
Difference in the game was the inability to curb Stick's running.  YSU did a good job when he threw the ball (11-20 for 113), and the D contained their rb's (29 for 108, 3.7 per), but Stick killed the Guins with his feet (11 for 172).  172 yards rushing for a QB that came into the game with 92 yards on the season.  If YSU had a LB or defensive back "spying" him, they didn't do their job, and if they weren't using a "spy" they should have been.

WELL Stick didn't have to scramble at all the first 5 games to be honest, maybe YSU relied too much on scouting 2017 instead of 2016?  just a thought.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 17, 2017, 09:30:29 PM
Hey DavidS , he is serious & stop calling him Shirley . ;D ;D ;D
Lol--said that purposely but didn't think anyone would  come up with the right response--I was wrong! ;D
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 18, 2017, 08:24:06 AM
Hey DavidS , he is serious & stop calling him Shirley . ;D ;D ;D
Lol--said that purposely but didn't think anyone would  come up with the right response--I was wrong! ;D
glad to see we are maintaining our sense of humor with 3 last second losses!  good sign going forward. win our and make the playoffs and anything can still happen.  there isn't one team we played that I don't think we can beat in a rematch!
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 18, 2017, 06:40:40 PM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 18, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 18, 2017, 10:55:02 PM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.


I disagree we are a better team than last year. Good team, yes. But we are a notch below what we were last year.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 19, 2017, 03:00:18 AM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.


I disagree we are a better team than last year. Good team, yes. But we are a notch below what we were last year.

Feels like we are missing a game breaker.  I think that Reed is a difference maker on defense and we missed him.  However, if we play at a high level there aren't many teams that can beat us and of we continue to improve we are in the mix.  I felt like Mays took a step forward last week, but he still has a way to go.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 19, 2017, 08:36:21 AM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.

I disagree we are a better team than last year. Good team, yes. But we are a notch below what we were last year.

I dunno, I think we’re playing just as well as we did in the playoffs last year. If a couple plays go differently we’re undefeated with a win over NDSU and an FCS team.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 19, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.

I disagree we are a better team than last year. Good team, yes. But we are a notch below what we were last year.

I dunno, I think we’re playing just as well as we did in the playoffs last year. If a couple plays go differently we’re undefeated with a win over NDSU and an FCS team.
Hate to pick, but we lost to Pitt by 7 not 3 and the best team in FCS is clearly JMU.  I think we can get better.  I think we are good enough to make the playoffs and I think if you get healthy and get on a run, we could do damage in the playoffs.  Right now we are a bit better than we were this time last year, but not better than we were during our playoff run.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Penguin Ice on October 19, 2017, 03:17:58 PM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.

I disagree we are a better team than last year. Good team, yes. But we are a notch below what we were last year.

I dunno, I think we’re playing just as well as we did in the playoffs last year. If a couple plays go differently we’re undefeated with a win over NDSU and an FCS team.
Hate to pick, but we lost to Pitt by 7 not 3 and the best team in FCS is clearly JMU.  I think we can get better.  I think we are good enough to make the playoffs and I think if you get healthy and get on a run, we could do damage in the playoffs.  Right now we are a bit better than we were this time last year, but not better than we were during our playoff run.
If we can find a way to stretch the field and make teams respect our passing game. Then yes we can go far into the playoffs
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: Kandrase on October 19, 2017, 05:59:16 PM
Pitt and NDSU  are better than any team in FCS and we lost to both by 3 points in overtime--we are capable of beating any team in FCS imho.

Agree 100% if we can just stay focused and win out there is no reason we can’t be a national championship team this year. We are a better team than last year, just had a few tough breaks so far.

I disagree we are a better team than last year. Good team, yes. But we are a notch below what we were last year.

I dunno, I think we’re playing just as well as we did in the playoffs last year. If a couple plays go differently we’re undefeated with a win over NDSU and an FCS team.
Hate to pick, but we lost to Pitt by 7 not 3 and the best team in FCS is clearly JMU.  I think we can get better.  I think we are good enough to make the playoffs and I think if you get healthy and get on a run, we could do damage in the playoffs.  Right now we are a bit better than we were this time last year, but not better than we were during our playoff run.

You're right I did type that too quick, I know we lost by 7 to PITT, my bad.

 I don't necessarily think JMU is clearly the best in FCS, at best I'd say they are arguably #1 both NDSU and USD have the same record as them and play a tougher SOS.

I guess we'll see how we play this week, I could be eating my words if we drop our 3rd game in a row this week.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: YSUGO on October 19, 2017, 08:18:55 PM
We have lost all the close games I think this year. Last year we won them.  We still haven’t played all 4 quarters of a game well.  Penguin power is correct we lack the big play ability on both sides of the ball.  I really think we miss Webb on offense.  The new kid is good but he is still Green and lacks the take it to the house like Webb did.?  Our D needs to create more turnovers and our kicking game needs to improve. We should make the playoffs and if Wells come back that could be the keys to get to Frisco.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 19, 2017, 08:39:28 PM
JMU is definitely one of the top teams in FCS but I wouldnt go as far as saying they are clearly the best--they might be though.Sagarin ranks NDSU  as #43 and JMU as #66 which doesnt necessarily mean they are better---time will tell.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 20, 2017, 09:07:24 AM
I would only note the following: As several postes on this thread have pointed out, YSU is not better than last year's team, and NDSU and USD are also not clearly better than YSU.  We could/should have one both those games.  7 games ago we faced JMU and they were CLEARLY the superior team.  Until somebody proves different, JMU is the best team in FCS football.  Regarding schedules, JMU has 4 ranked teams on theirs and I beleive Delaware was ranked when they played them.  Certainly the MVFC is the best, but JMU isn't playing all Slippery Rocks either.  I want to block out the championship game too, but if we look back, I recall that team was well coached, very well balanced, with talent all over the field.  Beat them and you are the new #1, but 'ya gotta do it on the field.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 20, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
I don't think JMU is the best team.  There is clearly no best team this year, it depends in the weekend and who can improve from week to week. That includes developing depth at all positions and the success of that development.  We will see.  It is a long way away.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 21, 2017, 10:04:46 AM
We have lost all the close games I think this year. Last year we won them.  We still haven’t played all 4 quarters of a game well.  Penguin power is correct we lack the big play ability on both sides of the ball.  I really think we miss Webb on offense.  The new kid is good but he is still Green and lacks the take it to the house like Webb did.?  Our D needs to create more turnovers and our kicking game needs to improve. We should make the playoffs and if Wells come back that could be the keys to get to Frisco.

I think we miss Ruiz more than Webb, but that is so hard to say. Ruiz was much harder to bring down then #37. Ruiz had speed, moves and such power. Look how many times he outran the line for more yardage, he could find a seam or make a hole ...so defenses could not fill a gap in the lane and stop him, they had to bring him down. That is what we are missing. However, Webb was also able to get that extra step to make it outside & could catch, which we also do not have. We are close to replacing Webb with a frosh (#25) who has good hands and is clearly getting better every week, but nothing even close to Ruiz that I have seen on the field. I hve to admit those spin moves by #37 were nice last week.
Title: Re: YSU vs. North Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 23, 2017, 09:04:33 AM
We have lost all the close games I think this year. Last year we won them.  We still haven’t played all 4 quarters of a game well.  Penguin power is correct we lack the big play ability on both sides of the ball.  I really think we miss Webb on offense.  The new kid is good but he is still Green and lacks the take it to the house like Webb did.?  Our D needs to create more turnovers and our kicking game needs to improve. We should make the playoffs and if Wells come back that could be the keys to get to Frisco.

I think we miss Ruiz more than Webb, but that is so hard to say. Ruiz was much harder to bring down then #37. Ruiz had speed, moves and such power. Look how many times he outran the line for more yardage, he could find a seam or make a hole ...so defenses could not fill a gap in the lane and stop him, they had to bring him down. That is what we are missing. However, Webb was also able to get that extra step to make it outside & could catch, which we also do not have. We are close to replacing Webb with a frosh (#25) who has good hands and is clearly getting better every week, but nothing even close to Ruiz that I have seen on the field. I hve to admit those spin moves by #37 were nice last week.
We definitely lack a power back, that's for sure.  I don't think we throw to Turner enough either.