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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: ytownchief22 on October 01, 2017, 10:14:21 PM
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Time to turn the attention to the Coyotes. They've beaten a terrible Bowling Green team, and ranked teams in North Dakota and Western Illinois. The dome is always a tough place to play. Should be a good matchup.
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They are definitely improved. The Minnesota transfer is a dangerous dual threat quarterback, but I doubt that his targets are anywhere near the caliber that we faced last night. And they have not met a defense as tough and as fast as ours.
If our oline plays with the intensity and the efficiency that they demonstrated last night (and I believe that they will,) it will be bad news for any defensive front seven in this league that does not call Fargo home.
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They are definitely improved. The Minnesota transfer is a dangerous dual threat quarterback, but I doubt that his targets are anywhere near the caliber that we faced last night. And they have not met a defense as tough and as fast as ours.
If our oline plays with the intensity and the efficiency that they demonstrated last night (and I believe that they will,) it will be bad news for any defensive front seven in this league that does not call Fargo home.
I think it is difficult to replicate intensity. There are too many individual factors involved. However, I believe the key to beating this team is to test their depth. We need to be physical and manage the game in a way so we keep it close till the 4th quarter. I think things will break loose later in the game. We just need to make sure we are getting the # of plays in each series on offense so it starts to take effect. This team is much improved and they play tough in their dome.
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They've been close to beating us in the past so this team better be ready to play off the bat.
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Charles Barkley had a comment on the YSU/South Dakota game. He accidentally said Angola.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLVkcecP8g
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Charles Barkley had a comment on the YSU/South Dakota game. He accidentally said Angola.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLVkcecP8g
confusing Angola - South Dakota, it's an easy mistake anyone could make.
Wasn't it the Angolian that Sir Charles wacked for pushing him in a game we were up 50-60 points?
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Charles Barkley had a comment on the YSU/South Dakota game. He accidentally said Angola.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLVkcecP8g
confusing Angola - South Dakota, it's an easy mistake anyone could make.
Wasn't it the Angolian that Sir Charles wacked for pushing him in a game we were up 50-60 points?
Yeah I think it was but he still meant the Coyotes.
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Charles Barkley had a comment on the YSU/South Dakota game. He accidentally said Angola.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLVkcecP8g
confusing Angola - South Dakota, it's an easy mistake anyone could make.
Wasn't it the Angolian that Sir Charles wacked for pushing him in a game we were up 50-60 points?
Yeah I think it was but he still meant the Coyotes.
Honestly, the Coyotes (or "Coyots" as they say it) is a lot better nickname than the SDSU bunnies. Barkley would have wacked the S _ _ _ out of the bunnies!
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They've been close to beating us in the past so this team better be ready to play off the bat.
Agree
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This is a classic trap game.
Coming off a big win, huge game coming up back at home... They can't look past this game, they're a top 10 team on the road and they have some impressive wins already (not Bowling Green).
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I agree this is a trap game. They gave the jarheads just 33 yards on the ground.
The QB had 32 pass attempts and 24 rushes. That's a lot of handles for a QB. Second most rushes was a RB with 12. Streveler leads he team in attempts, rushing, and has 10 TD and 0 INT. No question who we will need to stop.
As almost every FB game, it will be important to control the line of scrimage both ways.
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People talking about getting College Game Day to come to YSU next week for NDSU. Last time we tried this, we ended up losing the week before. The boys better be focused.
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People talking about getting College Game Day to come to YSU next week for NDSU. Last time we tried this, we ended up losing the week before. The boys better be focused.
They will be focused. We are 6 point underdogs Chief!
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People talking about getting College Game Day to come to YSU next week for NDSU. Last time we tried this, we ended up losing the week before. The boys better be focused.
They will be focused. We are 6 point underdogs Chief!
I understand point spreads are a function of where the money is flowing, not "favorites", but +6 for us against USD seems wrong!
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The game is sold out. Gonna be a tough environment.
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The D did a great job containing Streveler last year. Hoping for a repeat performance. Wonder if they are planning some snaps for Ricky being as he played against SD last year.
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I've been bumming around on a South Dakota football blog, and I can tell you this for certain. They are FAR more fired up about this game than we are. This may be the biggest game in USD football history and it isn't close to the biggest game for us so far this season. If the players are as fired up as their bloggers and ours are as listless as the bloggers on this site, we will be in a huge pile of trouble. They are waiting for YSU to send back unused tickets so the can sell them to waiting fans. Going to be loud in that dome, that's for sure.
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Making projections based on widely divergent ooc games and a single league match is rather pointless. For what it is worth (not much) our two best opponents in the Sagarin ratings (#54 Pitt and #87 SDSU) are supposedly stronger than the two highest rated South Dakota foes (#90 Western Illinois and #142 Bowling Green.)
Our defense surrendered 348 yards to Pitt and 222 to SDSU. South Dakota yielded 472 to BG and 474 to Western Illinois. Much of that yardage came in the air where they appear to be most vulnerable. Ricky Davis threw for over 200 yards against them last season. If they commit too many resources to containing our running game, Mays should be looking at single coverage all across the field.
As go guins suggested, the biggest enemy on Saturday is focus and emotion, not talent. We better not take this week off, or any of the remaining weeks in October.
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Don't like this game at all. Tough place to play - like a sardine can. Coming off a great game and have the #2 team next week. We can either get trapped looking back or forward. They believe this is the the breakout game for their program. Talent across the field I think we are better in almost every position except QB, but the intangibles will determine this game - playing a full game, turnovers, special teams, taking the crowd out of the game early! Nervous about what our demeanor will be like! National Champion level or just a playoff team. Better coach them up this week. USD is 3-0 on the road - we better win on the road in this conference!
GO GUINS
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Pretty nervous about this one.
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Don't like this game at all. Tough place to play - like a sardine can. Coming off a great game and have the #2 team next week. We can either get trapped looking back or forward. They believe this is the the breakout game for their program. Talent across the field I think we are better in almost every position except QB, but the intangibles will determine this game - playing a full game, turnovers, special teams, taking the crowd out of the game early! Nervous about what our demeanor will be like! National Champion level or just a playoff team. Better coach them up this week. USD is 3-0 on the road - we better win on the road in this conference!
GO GUINS
Exactly my sentiments. I also think they've circled this game. I don't recall them ever beating us since joining the league (and they've beaten NDSU). You hit the nail on the head. We will see if they are focused like a champion or if they are playing like a playoff team early in the season. This game could seriously end up being worth a bye heading into the playoffs, which will really help when that second season starts.
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Let's not have a repeat of a couple years ago when people were trying to get gameday to come here for the NDSU game and we crapped the bed the week before because the team wasn't focused.
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Too late for that, ytownchief22. Idiots on Twitter have been trying to get Gameday to the NDSU game all week.
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Too late for that, ytownchief22. Idiots on Twitter have been trying to get Gameday to the NDSU game all week.
Thankfully those idiots aren’t playing tomorrow.
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Now, I may fall under the category of "one of those idiots" on Twitter. But trust me, this team is focused on this week. Bo was asked in the weekly press conference, "Is it easier to keep the team focused when playing a highly ranked team?" He answered to the affirmative and said he didn't need to get the team focused at all this week, and then added, "But you all know I can most definitely get their attention if I need too, but I haven't needed too."
Besides, going back to the year we lost to UNI the week before, I wouldn't say that looking ahead lost the game. UNI was good, but we had every reason to win that game. I remember poor clock management costing us points and the game. Just my 2 cents.
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Further more, I am nervous for this game not because "the team is looking ahead" but because SD is a good team and this is at home for them. Still expect to win, but this is a very scary game. Go Penguins!
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Further more, I am nervous for this game not because "the team is looking ahead" but because SD is a good team and this is at home for them. Still expect to win, but this is a very scary game. Go Penguins!
Yes
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It's gameday let's go penguins!
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Let’s go Guins. Gameday. First drive for each team will tell a lot about this game
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Always tough to travel to the Dakotas and Northern Iowa. On top of that tough environments. I agree could be a trap game. Plus on how we dominated last week I am concerned it will give us a false sense on who we are. Hopefully Pelini will keep their heads where they need to be. If we can dominate the scrimmage line on both sides life will be good. Special team play will be important today and if we win that. Ballgame! Go YSU!
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Agreed. Special teams may be huge today!
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Agreed. Special teams may be huge today!
Yes. Since we will be playing in the doom, Kennedy should be able to put the kick off into the end zone avoiding potential kick off return.
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Mr. Reed needs to have a big game today.
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Time to get ready!
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Couldn't ask for a better start.
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Saw we scored. Did we get ball first? My ESPN 3 feed finally started working right before we scored
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Great start. Take that crowd out of the game
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Better start blitzing this kid
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well we are not even going to come close to covering these receivers. Just blitz every play & cross your fingers
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well we are not even going to come close to covering these receivers. Just blitz every play & cross your fingers
Are you watching the same game ? There was one big pass play and the TD was just an under thrown ball that you just can't cover. Get the eyes checked.
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Saw we scored. Did we get ball first? My ESPN 3 feed finally started working right before we scored
No they got ball first.
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Zinni cannot block anyone. Get him out.
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I’m watching the same game and we’re going to get killed if we don’t start blitzing
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Please get Larkin out.
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Carl has no clue ...looks like the defense from 2 seasons ago. Defense is lost out there. this is what happens when you do not tackle.
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bring that qb down on the 3.5 and they kick a field goal. instead we push him out.
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Carl has no clue ...looks like the defense from 2 seasons ago. Defense is lost out there. this is what happens when you do not tackle.
Let’s slow it down bashing Carl.... you saw the adjustment’s he made in the Pitt game.
Need 7 here
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Damn it
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Giving this kid way too much time
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They matched up there small quick WR’s against our slower. LB’s.
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should have been called for roughing
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You make Mays have to beat you throwing the ball and he won't. We are in trouble.
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this is where USD wins the game...all they need is 3, but they will certainly get 6 against us.
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NICE TACKLE POWELL. THEY ARE CALLED HANDS...TRY THEM
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Hey look what a blitz can do
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The USD QB seems to jump when his line is stood up. I think we do not need to get to him, just shift up front.
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I missed quite a bit of the game. I saw Reed in some replays but not on the last 2 drives.
Any idea why he isn't playing? The pass rush looks anemic unless we blitz. He seemed to be getting a nice push on the replays.
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I missed quite a bit of the game. I saw Reed in some replays but not on the last 2 drives.
Any idea why he isn't playing? The pass rush looks anemic unless we blitz. He seemed to be getting a nice push on the replays.
He's been subbing in just on 3rd down and obvious passing downs but that has to change. Louigene and Chapman are just warm bodies. Aren't getting the job done. Need to shift some coverage by the LB's and DB's unless we plan on bringing some more pressure.
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Adjustments I see that need to be made.
Lee Wright needs to become a spy on there QB and sent on every play. He’s not doing anything in pass coverage anyways.
Also need to limit their possessions in the second half and we have to get 7 points on our first possession of the half
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I missed quite a bit of the game. I saw Reed in some replays but not on the last 2 drives.
Any idea why he isn't playing? The pass rush looks anemic unless we blitz. He seemed to be getting a nice push on the replays.
He's been subbing in just on 3rd down and obvious passing downs but that has to change. Louigene and Chapman are just warm bodies. Aren't getting the job done. Need to shift some coverage by the LB's and DB's unless we plan on bringing some more pressure.
Thanks chief. You're right that needs to change I dont get it.
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USD QB is good and will pick us apart. It does look like our defense of 2&3 years ago. We must put a lot more pressure on their QB
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If we can't run the ball, we're done. Won't win the game with Mays arm.
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If we can't run the ball, we're done. Won't win the game with Mays arm.
Agree 10000%
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This looks like a Nebraska defense. Ummmm Bo ? Carl ?
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so far we are not the better team
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"IF" YSU had an "O" coordinator and a QB we'd be dangerous!!
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We are done. Can’t cover the middle of the field
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Three and out to start second half. Not having Wells arm is hurting the run game. We just gave up another td on a slant. Good be ballgame.
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I mean the middle of the field is just wide open. They are so afraid of this kid running the ball, instead he's killing them with his arm.
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This one is over
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"IF" YSU had an "O" coordinator and a QB we'd be dangerous!!
Heck I thought it was the same O coordinator that got us to the championship game last year and got us to control the ball for over 45 minutes last week against a top ten team.
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See ya. Mays stinks. Montgomery is predictable as hell on offense. If we can't run, we don't win.
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Put Ricky in. Mays doesn't have it.
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Put Ricky in
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did we even have offensive front that series?
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What kind of defensive game plan is this ? Can't expect Dellovade and Wright to cover 1 on 1 vs these quick WR's over the middle.
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Chief, the defense is MUCH more of a problem. SO maybe we need to pull Pelini
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Missing wells arm is big for us.
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Streveler has been killing us with his arm. If we lose this is a team loss.
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Are blitzers have no idea where the QB is. What good does it do you to break through 5-yards away horizontally?
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#37 is not our man. Sorry Teven.
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#37 is not our man. Sorry Teven.
My god just stop.
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Does anybody miss Wells yet LOL!!! 8)
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#37 is not our man. Sorry Teven.
What are u talking about?
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He is not a TB, he is an FB. Turner has the chance to break it.
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#37 is not our man. Sorry Teven.
You must mean that he is not your man. A lot of folks, me included, like him.
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we also need more Shane Kuhn & less Rader.
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SD can tackle!!!
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There goes that FB. Lol
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Interesting, Teven just broke one, albeit a short one, but I will take it.
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nice job on the o-line.
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we also need more Shane Kuhn & less Rader.
Between this and the McCaster comment, you are out of your bleeping mind. WOW.
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Well. Ball game could come down to this defensive series right here.
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D needs to take charge
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Excuse me ...but Fullback score lots of TDs, but it took a TB to get us down to the 10. You guys have not happy medium. We need McCaster, but not as a starting TB.
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we also need more Shane Kuhn & less Rader.
Between this and the McCaster comment, you are out of your bleeping mind. WOW.
Kuhn is much stronger. Although we have 3 good TE's.
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I'd like to see #30 play against some good competition.
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Need to grind it out and get 7 here
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Reed has his arm in a sling and he's in a jump suit on the sidelines. He's done.
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How many times are we going to run off tackle on first down?
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Too bad Wells didn't have Mays wheels!
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How many times are we going to run off tackle on first down?
Monty....
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Too bad Wells didn't have Mays wheels!
Too bad Mays doesn’t have Wells arm!
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How many times are we going to run off tackle on first down?
Monty....
Every time we have our fullback in.
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Too bad Wells didn't have Mays wheels!
Too bad Mays doesn’t have Wells arm!
8) Touché
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on the chin ...boot him
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Just got a big break there. That’s targeting
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Do not understand that call
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That’s Bullsh**
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Dear god....
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what kind of call was that? A fake on the 42? 2 stops in a row and Pelini is getting cocky.
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Horrible inconsistent referee’s on that personal foul call
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Big call there. Need 7
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these damn refs are calling targeting ...this was clearly only roughing, but it is not called.
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these damn refs are calling targeting ...this was clearly only roughing, but it is not called.
Terrible
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How does the targeting not get downgraded to late hit? Is it because a late hit unlike targeting isn't reviewable? And mccaster is money
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way too much time left. It's a stop here or bust.
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I think coach Shane has the TB rotation figured out.
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Targeting is reviewable but roughing is not? Total bs. It’s a late hit regardless.
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watch the fake
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Blitzing works ;D
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Terrible first two play calls from the clown himself.
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now they have been using #20 the whole half outside of the red zone & now this.
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Horrible play calling
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Hahaha my god this clown is gonna blow the game. Wow. Typical. What a joke.
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Monty is terrible.
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Wow 3 bad plays typical choke job on the road.
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"IF" YSU don't fire Monty ASAP it would be a travesty >:(
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That’s a huge penalty
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Shane Montgomery blew this game with his piss poor play calling last series. 2 runs for negative yards backup when you know they're going to use TO's. Hahahahahaha.
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the mistake was not using #20 and our complete inability to get any pressure on the QB. Quit blaming the O coach for a lack of D talent.
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True freshman DB getting smoked and that's the ball game. Joke.
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
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that just dropped next week's attendance to under 10k.
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
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Typical choke job by OC Shane Montgomery. Why does this guy keep getting a pass ? 2 different staffs now. Got carried by a superb defense last year. Time for him to go.
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Till Mayes can look up field and complete more than 20 yd pass we will struggle. I am not impressed with him and his decision making. Wells can’t heal fast enough!
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worse yet, we have 2, possibly 3, more talented teams on our remaining schedule
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Go, think Mays can be a very good QB for us, but at what cost? He is going to need most of the remaining season to get there. I am not willing to scrap 2017 to improve his play under "fire". He would be fine if we had a bit more stout D.
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So... Why did we run it twice with like 2 minutes left? We needed to move the ball.
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
CRAP! 28-points wins every game you play.
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
31 points giving up isn’t a good defensive game against anyone at any time.... but if that helps your support for firing Montgomery, cuz that’s not happening
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you talk about YSU offense being one-dimensional? How does it feel to be beat by the most one-dimensional offense we have faced? I don't think they did anything but rotate the two backs and occasionally go w/o one. We simply failed to perform. It was a good game and we came out on the short side.
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
31 points giving up isn’t a good defensive game against anyone at any time.... but if that helps your support for firing Montgomery, cuz that’s not happening
"IF" YSU had an offense worth a sh** the defense wouldn't have been out there to give up 31 points #bookit
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
CRAP! 28-points wins every game you play.
You sir are WRONG!! Not in this league :o
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
CRAP! 28-points wins every game you play.
You sir are WRONG!! Not in this league :o
I don’t care if it’s Pop Warner. You give up 31 points you deserve to lose.....
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The mistake was sitting back and letting there QB pick you apart. 28 points should have been enough to win this game
Bull sh**!! 31 points is a good defensive game against this team in that dome!!
Forgot to add SD has a piss poor defense should have scored way more than 28 against these guys.
CRAP! 28-points wins every game you play.
You sir are WRONG!! Not in this league :o
ESPECIALLY in this league. What do you think we are in the CAA, Big Sky or SWAC?
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We ran plat action on first down once and they were keying on the run so much it fooled everyone. However Mats could not complete the pass. I think it was the one Raider dropped.
I am also surprised we did not use Davis at all. Just for a series or two
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good point on Davis, but it would have had to have been with a lead and early. I agree with Chief on those last two drives ...but one for each team. Monty was playing for the 45-yard line and a FG attempt, while USD played for the end-zone and "settled" for a chip-shot FG with a kicker they do not trust.
Our last 3 scoring drives were using Turned until we were inside the red-zone (or he needed a breather), then either adding McCaster, or replacing #20 with #37 ...why did we not stick with it on that last drive? We came out conservative with Teven & USD went whole hog against the run.
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Proud of the penguins effort today and very proud to be a fan. I said earlier that we need 2 out of 3 games against SDS, SD, and NDS. Next week now becomes a must win. Not happy that we gave up close to 500 yards on Defense and couldn't find a solution for Jackson. Their players were so young on offense and they started a good amount of true freshman. I figured they would load the box on us and they did after 1 quarter. They played man coverage with know safety help over the top for the majority of the game and we did not challenge their corners all day. Mays did some really good things, but the inexperienced showed. Took to many sacks and just doesn't see the field that good and is missing wide open recievers and staring down his primary recievers..Bring on the bison!!
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This was a game we could of won. Their QB was the best one we saw all season and it seemed like we had no answer to what they were doing at times. Mayes has played enough where the other teams no what he can and can’t do. He doesn’t see the field well and at times holds the ball too long and struggles to throw the mid to deep throws. So if I was the coach. Uptempo the offense go to 3 step drops, slants and screen game. You change your system to what you have. That is what the good coaches do. We can’t come out next week with the same coloring book and crayons. I have a question why isn’t Coates with his 4.3 speed not gameplanned a few plays. Just a thought. Defense got exposed today I felt some poor tackling and spacing by the db’s which is fixable. Not sure what baby bo’s gameplan to stop their qb was. He gets a D this week. Monty gets a D+. Horrible play calls on the next to last drive. If u was the HC I would say what the hell were u thinking.
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My only criticism was the 3 man rush and dropping everyone in coverage. Wanted to see pressure on the SD Qb. Coaches know more than I do but the SD qb might be the best in the MVFC.
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We will not beat any team that can stop the run. QB stinks out loud.
How on earth do we have to go to a WR to even field 3 QB in the first place?
We have a dozen TE and 2 QB
LOL, next week will be fun.
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I don't see how any defense can stop the pass if the defenders don't know where the ball is. YSU's safetys and defensive backs were on receivers like white on rice, But only after the receivers caught the ball did they turn to see where it was!
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I don't see how any defense can stop the pass if the defenders don't know where the ball is. YSU's safetys and defensive backs were on receivers like white on rice, But only after the receivers caught the ball did they turn to see where it was!
Yep. That drives me nuts every game.
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Worried about Reed's injury. He's our only true great pass rusher. Chapman and Louigene are decent. Bo and Carl will get the defense fixed. I mean we were playing the #6 team at their place and held them to their lowest offensive output of the year. Offensively I'm worried. If teams can stuff our run and make Monty and Mays try and beat you, it can rarely be done.
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Worried about Reed's injury. He's our only true great pass rusher. Chapman and Louigene are decent. Bo and Carl will get the defense fixed. I mean we were playing the #6 team at their place and held them to their lowest offensive output of the year. Offensively I'm worried. If teams can stuff our run and make Monty and Mays try and beat you, it can rarely be done.
Geez and if you stop USD's QB anyone can beat them as well. LOL No one has done that and no one has stopped our run game. You look for Monty slams at any cost. You are playing with your back-up QB, deal with it. Stop looking for a record lap in the pool when you can barely keep your head above water. If anyone is going to stop our runner, it is coming to Stambaugh this week.
PS: Carl will not fix this defense, he does not know it is broken. Wrong players and defense for this conference. However, if we get to the post-season, our D will do alright.
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You rip Carl just like I rip Monty. Agree to disagree I guess. You were just praising Carl earlier in the year, but you will never say a a bad word about your boy, who when the game is tight and close, he puckers up and craps the bed as a play caller. Sad.....
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We will not beat any team that can stop the run. QB stinks out loud.
How on earth do we have to go to a WR to even field 3 QB in the first place?
We have a dozen TE and 2 QB
LOL, next week will be fun.
As I have post before, our QB plays have not been good.
Mays has trouble throwing a mid-long range ball. Monty probably had to shelve 25% of the Pass plays.
For short - mid passes, he was ok if the receivers were sitting stationary (tight ends and backs) or a wideout crossing across the middle.
His problems were with the passes to receivers or RB who were moving away from him. There were at least 2-3 passes missed Turn on the right side moving upfield. He threw the ball behind him. There were a few misses to the TE or WR running the routes away from him. He missed them too.
Wells could throw these passes where he could not.
SDU knew that and rolled the dice at our last drive but stacking the box. We were too conservative and ran 3 plays up the middle resulting in a punt.
You just could not give an NFL calibre QB 8-10 seconds to find a receiver and expected him not finding one.
We must have a better game plan next week if Wells still could not play. The coaches get paid for this and they need to figure it out.
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There is no sugarcoating the fact that our defense played its worse game in some time. I’m confident in Bo and Carl to get it straightened out. As bad as we played on both sides of the ball, we nearly pulled out a road win over what will likely be a top 5/10 team for much of the season IF their QB can somehow remain healthy. USD is a very solid team that will make noise in the Valley this year.
Bottom line though is we must play much much better to stand any shot of winning next week. As you may recall last years NDSU game played out very similar to the SDSU game with us falling behind early and never being able to materialize much the rest of the way. We need to come out strong and win the battle in the trenches. We lost the battle yesterday and lost the game. The week before we completely dominated SDSU in the battle in the trenches and we were victorious.
Big big big game this Saturday! Weather looks unreal for mid October with a high in the upper 70s!!!
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Montgomery's play calling cost us this game. They ran the ball into a box stacked with 9 people. You just cannot do that. it is retarded. Then you stop the f'ing clock by passimg it on 3rd down. No tempo changes on offense and little to no play action passing on a blitzing defense. The play calling was retarded. Play to win not for OT. Grow some balls Montgomery.
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You rip Carl just like I rip Monty. Agree to disagree I guess. You were just praising Carl earlier in the year, but you will never say a a bad word about your boy, who when the game is tight and close, he puckers up and craps the bed as a play caller. Sad.....
No I rip anyone that needs it. This defense did not even resemble the defense of the last 4 games of last year and last week. It resembled the defense that we had most of last year & the year prior ...simply small and fast, no tackling skills. No ability to see what the opposing QB is doing or where the ball is in play. I also ripped Monty for his last drive, it was weak and cost us a chance at this game. I also do not like our TB situation. The difference between you and I is that you think anyone with the name Tressel or Pelini is a god. I am not so blind. This conference requires tough defenses that can take over a game and we only had that against Wofford last year ....that was a one dimensional offense. When Carl does something good (in my mind) I will praise him. Giving up over 500-yards, 368 of which was in the air at over 17-yards per attempt is a disgrace.
BTW Power, Monty's play-calling cost us a "chance" at this game ...I agree. However, the game should not have come down to one drive, Monty did not call the fake on the 43, but if he did then I will blame him there as well. Our defense could not stop USD when the Coyotes had zero timeouts remaining. We let one player account for more than 440-yards of offense against us. 368-passing and 73-rushing ....that is also a disgrace. I am also realist, Mays had just under 400-yards of offense and produced 28-points, which is not too bad and should win most any game. We should not have punted 5-times, but it is far from an awful number. Again my frustration with coach M, like you, was the ignorance of player/play rotation that seemed to be working. USD had not stopped it for the last 2 series.
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At least on the bright side we probably have a better chance of beating NDSU now. Got to think our weaknesses were exposed and the players and coaches will come at the Bison with a little chip on their shoulder.
As much as no one likes to admit it , the SD game was kind of a trap game, sure they were highly ranked and we definitely respected them, but SDSU and NDSU are always THE big games. I'm thinking we may have been looking past the Yotes.
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You rip Carl just like I rip Monty. Agree to disagree I guess. You were just praising Carl earlier in the year, but you will never say a a bad word about your boy, who when the game is tight and close, he puckers up and craps the bed as a play caller. Sad.....
No I rip anyone that needs it. This defense did not even resemble the defense of the last 4 games of last year and last week. It resembled the defense that we had most of last year & the year prior ...simply small and fast, no tackling skills. No ability to see what the opposing QB is doing or where the ball is in play. I also ripped Monty for his last drive, it was weak and cost us a chance at this game. I also do not like our TB situation. The difference between you and I is that you think anyone with the name Tressel or Pelini is a god. I am not so blind. This conference requires tough defenses that can take over a game and we only had that against Wofford last year ....that was a one dimensional offense. When Carl does something good (in my mind) I will praise him. Giving up over 500-yards, 368 of which was in the air at over 17-yards per attempt is a disgrace.
BTW Power, Monty's play-calling cost us a "chance" at this game ...I agree. However, the game should not have come down to one drive, Monty did not call the fake on the 43, but if he did then I will blame him there as well. Our defense could not stop USD when the Coyotes had zero timeouts remaining. We let one player account for more than 440-yards of offense against us. 368-passing and 73-rushing ....that is also a disgrace. I am also realist, Mays had just under 400-yards of offense and produced 28-points, which is not too bad and should win most any game. We should not have punted 5-times, but it is far from an awful number. Again my frustration with coach M, like you, was the ignorance of player/play rotation that seemed to be working. USD had not stopped it for the last 2 series.
I don't disagree that our secondary got exposed, but there were also several no calls for holding the DL.
We have a weakness back there becuase of youth but our weakness aside, we are better than most teams. Their QB was exceptional and the best we've faced all year. have to give them credit.
regardless the game was 0-0 with about 2 min left. So however we got there it was essentially an even game. Montgomery needed to be aggressive there and be pussed out.
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You rip Carl just like I rip Monty. Agree to disagree I guess. You were just praising Carl earlier in the year, but you will never say a a bad word about your boy, who when the game is tight and close, he puckers up and craps the bed as a play caller. Sad.....
No I rip anyone that needs it. This defense did not even resemble the defense of the last 4 games of last year and last week. It resembled the defense that we had most of last year & the year prior ...simply small and fast, no tackling skills. No ability to see what the opposing QB is doing or where the ball is in play. I also ripped Monty for his last drive, it was weak and cost us a chance at this game. I also do not like our TB situation. The difference between you and I is that you think anyone with the name Tressel or Pelini is a god. I am not so blind. This conference requires tough defenses that can take over a game and we only had that against Wofford last year ....that was a one dimensional offense. When Carl does something good (in my mind) I will praise him. Giving up over 500-yards, 368 of which was in the air at over 17-yards per attempt is a disgrace.
BTW Power, Monty's play-calling cost us a "chance" at this game ...I agree. However, the game should not have come down to one drive, Monty did not call the fake on the 43, but if he did then I will blame him there as well. Our defense could not stop USD when the Coyotes had zero timeouts remaining. We let one player account for more than 440-yards of offense against us. 368-passing and 73-rushing ....that is also a disgrace. I am also realist, Mays had just under 400-yards of offense and produced 28-points, which is not too bad and should win most any game. We should not have punted 5-times, but it is far from an awful number. Again my frustration with coach M, like you, was the ignorance of player/play rotation that seemed to be working. USD had not stopped it for the last 2 series.
I don't disagree that our secondary got exposed, but there were also several no calls for holding the DL.
We have a weakness back there becuase of youth but our weakness aside, we are better than most teams. Their QB was exceptional and the best we've faced all year. have to give them credit.
regardless the game was 0-0 with about 2 min left. So however we got there it was essentially an even game. Montgomery needed to be aggressive there and be pussed out.
I agree with everything you both said. With a few exceptions.
I don’t blame the secondary. I blame the LB’s. They are too slow in coverage and we’re exposed and left the middle of the field wide open. They also need to stop diving at ankles and learn to wrap up.
I hear what your saying about Montgomery pussing out. But with our OL we should have been able to run for one first down and gone to overtime. You have to remember we had the ball to start that drive inside our own 10. If he would have called play action and Mays “who couldn’t hit a RB open all day in the flat” throws a INT. You would have crucified him for not playing for overtime.
Just to go on record I am not a Montgomery fan but he was in a no win situation because of we’re we got the ball and thought we could grind out a first down.
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Tough game. If any of 3 things happen we win. 1. The defense plays well. The offensive line plays well. 3. The QB plays well. None happened.
It seemed like on defense we were never set and looked confused. Also using line backers to cover faster receivers did not work. their number 33 had 200 yards receiving! And we rarely got pressure on their QB. I think we were so concerned with his running that we held back on the pass rush to keep him in the pocket. His throws killed us.
The offensive line did not give our QB time to pass most of the time. And there was no way we could run the ball consistently with them packing the box, especially on 1st down. But must not have had confidence in our QB to throw on early downs much of the time.
Nathan Mays had a hard time under the pressure of their defensive line and blitzing. So he locked on to only one receiver and that was it. And his throwing ability is not that strong.
Finally when tied on the last series we again try to run against an impossible front and play for overtime. If they committed to the run so much and we don't have confidence to pass the ball, we are in deep mud.
Not sure about Ricky Davis but would sure like to see what he could do this year. He for sure has a stronger arm and is a stronger runner. Against the top teams we are in trouble as we are currently structured. I think the defense will be better, but on offense I am not so sure.
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At least on the bright side we probably have a better chance of beating NDSU now. Got to think our weaknesses were exposed and the players and coaches will come at the Bison with a little chip on their shoulder.
As much as no one likes to admit it , the SD game was kind of a trap game, sure they were highly ranked and we definitely respected them, but SDSU and NDSU are always THE big games. I'm thinking we may have been looking past the Yotes.
Some good thoughts
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Worried about Reed's injury. He's our only true great pass rusher.
His injury definitely made a difference. The Guins got some pressure on the QB when he was in there, but very little after he left.
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I am also surprised we did not use Davis at all. Just for a series or two
I thought he'd see some playing time as well. He played against these guys last year, so he would have some familiarity with them.
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Look for Davis to play some this week against the Bison