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Title: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 19, 2017, 03:13:43 PM
Any rumors about our starter at QB? 
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 19, 2017, 03:18:42 PM
I heard Wells is good to go
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 19, 2017, 03:29:24 PM
I heard Wells is good to go
That would be great.  You couldn't tell Saturday but the week before his body language, while in a T and sling, was awfully relaxed for it to be very serious. 
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Double ET on September 19, 2017, 04:16:56 PM
I heard Wells is good to go
That would be great.  You couldn't tell Saturday but the week before his body language, while in a T and sling, was awfully relaxed for it to be very serious.

I saw him practicing on the side line during the CCSU games. He was throwing the ball with good velocity. I have to believe that he will be ready to go, especially with another week of rest.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 19, 2017, 05:43:37 PM
Wells should be good to go from what I hear.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Wick250 on September 19, 2017, 10:06:17 PM
The outcome of this game will be determined by these two matchups:

The prolific passing game of SDSU against our good defense.
Our balanced offense against an okay SDSU defense.

No stupid turnovers and I like our chances.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 19, 2017, 10:13:43 PM
The outcome of this game will be determined by these two matchups:

The prolific passing game of SDSU against our good defense.
Our balanced offense against an okay SDSU defense.

No stupid turnovers and I like our chances.


Have to pressure the QB and contain him (Easier said than done) and have to be able to run the ball.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 20, 2017, 08:32:05 AM
The outcome of this game will be determined by these two matchups:

The prolific passing game of SDSU against our good defense.
Our balanced offense against an okay SDSU defense.

No stupid turnovers and I like our chances.
Wick, sometimes you offer good insite, but today? not so much.  key matchups: our O vs. there D and their D vs our O?  the name Captain Obvious comes to mind! 
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 20, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
Anyone know if Durkin will be available?  He was not dressed for last week's game.

Also Cam Fraser left with a shoulder injury.  Any update on him?
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 20, 2017, 01:19:00 PM
Anyone know if Durkin will be available?  He was not dressed for last week's game.

Also Cam Fraser left with a shoulder injury.  Any update on him?
My biggest complaint against Bo is the complete lack of player information the program provides.  They never provide injury update informtion.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 20, 2017, 02:39:09 PM
Durkin was dealing with a concussion, should be good to go. Fraser will also be fine.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 20, 2017, 03:44:38 PM
Durkin was dealing with a concussion, should be good to go. Fraser will also be fine.
good,  I know I saw Spencer re-enter after looking like a more serious knee injury, and I thought the same about Fraser.  Not sure, but I think he returned Saturday.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 21, 2017, 11:48:58 AM
Durkin was dealing with a concussion, should be good to go. Fraser will also be fine.

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 21, 2017, 11:59:19 AM
Durkin was dealing with a concussion, should be good to go. Fraser will also be fine.
good,  I know I saw Spencer re-enter after looking like a more serious knee injury, and I thought the same about Fraser.  Not sure, but I think he returned Saturday.

Fraser did not return.  He was on the sidelines icing his shoulder.

Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 22, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
This SUCKS!  I know a bye now will be great for Hunter, the OL, and the coaching staff as they get ready for league play, but it SUCKS for us fans!  OSU plays UNLV which lost to Howard.  I didn't even know Howard had a football team?  In any case, this is BORING!!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Double ET on September 22, 2017, 12:01:54 PM
This SUCKS!  I know a bye now will be great for Hunter, the OL, and the coaching staff as they get ready for league play, but it SUCKS for us fans!  OSU plays UNLV which lost to Howard.  I didn't even know Howard had a football team?  In any case, this is BORING!!

UNLV to OSU is like CCSU to us. It gives them another home game which will fill the Horseshoe.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: YSU1 on September 23, 2017, 03:44:18 PM
what is Howard"s last name?
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on September 23, 2017, 06:09:33 PM
This SUCKS!  I know a bye now will be great for Hunter, the OL, and the coaching staff as they get ready for league play, but it SUCKS for us fans!  OSU plays UNLV which lost to Howard.  I didn't even know Howard had a football team?  In any case, this is BORING!!

Of course Howard has a football team ... It is the minor event that breaks up MEAC/SWAC band shows.   fb


(http://coas.howard.edu/bands/images/drummajor.JPG)
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 25, 2017, 09:48:19 AM
This SUCKS!  I know a bye now will be great for Hunter, the OL, and the coaching staff as they get ready for league play, but it SUCKS for us fans!  OSU plays UNLV which lost to Howard.  I didn't even know Howard had a football team?  In any case, this is BORING!!

Of course Howard has a football team ... It is the minor event that breaks up MEAC/SWAC band shows.   fb


(http://coas.howard.edu/bands/images/drummajor.JPG)
You got that right!  Nobody ever made a movie about the Marching Pride (or The Best Damn Band in the Land, for that matter!)  Drumline even had a sequel!  (I don’t count Hang On Sloopy the Movie, it was about a song, not the band and it wasn't a movie, dispite the name)
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 25, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
Wonder if Wick avenue will be done by game day ?.....  :-\
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on September 25, 2017, 01:29:24 PM
Any news on whether Hunter will be well for this game?
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 25, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
Any news on whether Hunter will be well for this game?
wondering if Wells is well, huh?  I think the report was he was OK for CCS if needed, and this is extra 2 weeks, I assume he is fine.
The following is from Hunter's on Facebook page:

Fairless Night at The Ice Castle
Sat 7 PM · Fairless Linebackers Club · Navarre, OH

Hunter posted: Thanks Jimmy! Appreciate all the support, can't wait to see everyone there!

Sounds to me like he intends to play!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on September 25, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Any news on whether Hunter will be well for this game?
wondering if Wells is well, huh?  I think the report was he was OK for CCS if needed, and this is extra 2 weeks, I assume he is fine.
The following is from Hunter's on Facebook page:

Fairless Night at The Ice Castle
Sat 7 PM · Fairless Linebackers Club · Navarre, OH

Hunter posted: Thanks Jimmy! Appreciate all the support, can't wait to see everyone there!

Sounds to me like he intends to play!

Sounds like it to me too! Facebook checking huh? Man did you ever do any time as a private investigator? Pretty good sleuthing there Go!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on September 25, 2017, 08:04:29 PM
Back to the game discussion! SDSU will be a tall task. Excellent offense, we shall see whether we are up to snuff. Hoping we can score points on their defense, but from the Montana State game defensive effort, I'm hoping we can.

I'm bringing friends. Hope to get a good crowd for our home game against another highly ranked team  fb
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 25, 2017, 08:09:13 PM
https://youtu.be/ntXNfsKjhLI A few comments from SDSU head coach on the upcoming game
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 25, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
Jackrabbits have had our number for awhile. Time to change that.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 26, 2017, 08:55:36 AM
Back to the game discussion! SDSU will be a tall task. Excellent offense, we shall see whether we are up to snuff. Hoping we can score points on their defense, but from the Montana State game defensive effort, I'm hoping we can.

I'm bringing friends. Hope to get a good crowd for our home game against another highly ranked team  fb
I'm all in with the hope for a good crowd.  GLAD I didn't bring friends to CCSU.  That game was worse than Valpo and I thought that was the worst ever.  CCSU was BORING!
SDSU will be anything but boring!  Will be a real test and I hope we get a passing grade!  Like most of last year, comes down to pressure on QB and not making dumb mistakes on O.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 26, 2017, 09:26:29 AM
I hope fans dont stay home to watch the bucks play a poor 1-3 Rutgers team..12,000 to 14,000 actual fans is what i expect
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on September 26, 2017, 09:48:58 AM
I hope fans dont stay home to watch the bucks play a poor 1-3 Rutgers team..12,000 to 14,000 actual fans is what i expect
Bucks gave up 21 to a team that LOST to HOWARD!  This could be a better game than people expect.  That being said, what a great evening it should be to watch FB live!  I'll be at Stambaugh Stadium!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 26, 2017, 12:40:06 PM
I hope fans dont stay home to watch the bucks play a poor 1-3 Rutgers team..12,000 to 14,000 actual fans is what i expect

It definitely hurts attendance when OSU is playing a marquee team, but I doubt many will stay home for Rutgers.  I'm thinking 16,000 show up.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 26, 2017, 12:45:09 PM
Jackrabbits have had our number for awhile. Time to change that.

Wells played a good game his Freshman year when the Guins beat the bunnies.  Hoping for a similar performance this weekend.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 26, 2017, 02:21:04 PM
Bo says Hunter is good to go.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 28, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
Hoping for a big crowd but who knows. Always wishful thinking.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 29, 2017, 12:19:06 PM
I'm excited to see how the Guins match up with one of the best teams in FCS.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on September 29, 2017, 01:51:42 PM
Thinking there will definitely be a bigger crowd than the last two games that is for sure.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on September 29, 2017, 10:38:02 PM
Thinking there will definitely be a bigger crowd than the last two games that is for sure.

Well for years people have been posting here claiming that no one shows up for the games because of weak teams. So let's see how many show tomorrow for a really good team. Guessing I already know the answer.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 30, 2017, 12:15:15 PM
C'mon boys. Time to shine!!!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on September 30, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
Thinking there will definitely be a bigger crowd than the last two games that is for sure.

Well for years people have been posting here claiming that no one shows up for the games because of weak teams. So let's see how many show tomorrow for a really good team. Guessing I already know the answer.

Unfortunately that topic gets beat like the dead hirse. Less than 8k today is my prediction.  M-70 Tailgate lot is not even half full.  I know 4 hours till kickoff but still...
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: YSUGO on September 30, 2017, 06:56:02 PM
The announced crowd will be like 13-15k my guess.  But Youngstown metro area has lost too much population.  That's why the emphasis to add loges they have a waiting list and at 20k a loge and what are they adding like 10.  Do the math you added 200k in revenue per a game times 5 or 6.  That makes up the 10k of fans we lost if they pay 20 a ticket.  Not rocket science but reality. 
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: The YO Show on September 30, 2017, 07:36:26 PM
Very good crowd tonight. Did Hunter get hurt that first series? Saw Nathan finish the drive.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Buddy on September 30, 2017, 08:07:35 PM
Wells has to be hurt
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: YSUGO on September 30, 2017, 08:09:46 PM
Yes he got hit on it looked like a rollout play.  If was a call by Monty pretty stupid to call if your qb has a tender shoulder.  But hard to tell watching this generic broadcast.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: WeAreYoungstown on September 30, 2017, 08:22:15 PM
Horrible play calling before the half there. Gotta take the FG and the 10 point lead with the ball to start the half. Completely lost the momentum going into the locker room.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: YSUGO on September 30, 2017, 09:59:58 PM
We had the ball for 27 minutes out of 30 in the second half.  Offensive line gets the MVP of the game for the 300+ yards rushing.  Total Domination at the Ice castle. Great job team.  Whoever said Pelini couldn't coach lol! I thought Mayes improved all season.  Nothing flashy with him but if we keep running like that we don't need Superman back there!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 30, 2017, 10:17:43 PM
Horrible play calling before the half there. Gotta take the FG and the 10 point lead with the ball to start the half. Completely lost the momentum going into the locker room.

Wrong. How about McCaster go out of bounds instead ???? That's on him.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 30, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
Great, dominating win. Controlled the ball all night and just went maybe momentum started to switch to them, the safety happened. Biggest play of the night. Wells just cannot stay healthy. Can't be counted on... We'll see what happens going forward.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Petey on September 30, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
Just curious could not watch game, but looked at defense stats and did not see anything for Reed? Did he play?

GOOO GUINS!!!!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 30, 2017, 11:12:39 PM
Just curious could not watch game, but looked at defense stats and did not see anything for Reed? Did he play?

GOOO GUINS!!!!


Yep, he played. We didn't get much pressure on the QB all night.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on September 30, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
Very very impressive win. Offense and defense were both great. Only recall 1 flag against the bunnies. Had a couple of chances to tack on more point, glad that did not come back to haunt us. TOP was crazy. Wish we had taken a knee at the end of the game. Nice crowd and a lot stayed to the end of the game.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 30, 2017, 11:15:52 PM
17,450 announced attendance.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Wick250 on October 01, 2017, 12:32:21 AM
This was a night that the announced attendance was the real attendance.  :D

Sure our young skill players made some mistakes near the goal line, but I thought that Mays and McCaster were excellent overall.  How many scrambles on third and long did Mays execute to keep drives going?  How much yardage did McCaster gain after first contact? 

In order to contain SDSU, I assumed that we had to get pressure on their talented qb.  We could not touch him all night, a tribute to their o-line.  A real tribute to our linebackers and d-backs for somehow managing two probable NFL talents under those trying circumstances.  I wonder how many yards SDSU gained after the first quarter?  After their only touchdown, how many possessions did SDSU have without scoring?  Great job, guys.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 01, 2017, 12:39:52 AM
Great win.  Wasn't expecting this.  Very pleased.  left too many points out there.  QB needs to run less so he doesn't get hurt. 

I've never seen the TOP so lopsided in my life.  We pushed them around
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 01, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
Mays running ability is what makes him good. He's not a pocket passer who's gonna sling it down field. He makes plays with his feet and needs to continue to do so. Wells just cannot stay healthy. My god one hit on the shoulder and he was done again.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ucfpengbuck on October 01, 2017, 10:25:27 AM
I'm actually suprised Wells is playing with a shoulder separation.  Depending on the degree or grade of separation,those injuries can linger.   I have one right now(long story) and could not imagine how he's playing.

Mays played a nice game last night but the Oline opened holes that kept the clock going.  Not sure we'll be able to run it like that moving forward if the passing game isn't clicking.   I think Mays can make the plays with his arm going forward which will open the ground game up more.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: YSU1 on October 01, 2017, 11:05:01 AM
They played like the teams of the 90's.  Run first. pass if you need to.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: IAA Fan on October 01, 2017, 12:38:00 PM
I don't know about you, but I was never comfortable the entire game. As dominating as we were on offense; we could not put them to bed. SDSU moved down the field at will in the first quarter. It took a fumble and and INT to hold them to 7. Then in the second quarter, our O line began to shift and holes started to open. We left 12-points on the field. 14-2 = 12 (the two points were from the safety). Our D played back on 1st-down and we were giving 5+ yards on every series. Then we played tight and kept it close on 3rd, but we should not have to work that hard. We cannot give up so much on 1st-down.

The SDSU QB fell apart with even the slightest pressure, but as Wick pointed out the SDSU Oline was fantastic at protecting #3. McCaster is a solid back, but Turner is our best TB and (even though I really like Rader) Kuhn needs to be the starting TE. I agree with Pengbuck, we should test Mays' arm a bit. Although he (visually) missed two seriously wide-open receivers deep & made a good run one one and we had to punt on the other. Just a nice game to watch in-person. The crowd got a good game for their money. Go Guins!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: Penquin68 on October 01, 2017, 02:33:02 PM
Great game, but it really looked like SDSU was the stronger team on offence for sure. Their passing game is strong for FCS (maybe even most of FBS) and team size was markedly bigger than we are. It has been said on this board that our uniforms make us look smaller, but I don't know.  They moved the ball at will for the most part, but turnovers really hurt them.  Thank God for Bo and company coaching the defense and special teams.  And we have a nice running game to use clock.  Our teams pre Bo would have been in deep trouble against them. Would not like to play their offence again. 

As for QB, it looks like Hunter may be questionable at best the rest of the year. Nathan Mays looks ok, but will need to pass the ball down field if we are to have a chance to be really good this year. Again Ricky Davis may be needed with Nathan Mays running and possibly getting hurt.  If that happens I hope Ricky is up to the challenge; I think he just might be after all he has been through.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 01, 2017, 05:23:54 PM
Maybe I was at a different game. Their pass protection did impress me but yesterday their offense sure did not look like the stronger team to me. Only 3 minutes TOP in the second half and zero points, pretty weak. Over 45 minutes TOP to less then 15, I'd say that YSU's offense, at least for yesterday, looked pretty strong.

I usually am a nervous wreck until we have like a 40 point lead with 2 minutes to go. But the way our D was playing I felt comfortable from the near the end of the third on.

I feel good with Mays, tried to force a couple of passes but it all worked out. Like that he can run when needed, but I never feel good about a qb that wants to run first.

We lost some very good players on D from last year, a credit to the team that the D is playing, at least so far this year, as good as they are.

One of the better games I have been at for a while. Kudos to the players and the coaches.


Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 01, 2017, 05:45:52 PM
SDSU  definitely has a lot of talent  on offense with no doubt a few good NFL prospects---however if their offense was all that strong it would've stayed on the field a lot longer than 14 minutes in a 60 minute game--had we been able to put pressure on their qb they might've been on the field for closer to 4 minutes. 8)
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ucfpengbuck on October 01, 2017, 07:54:43 PM
Three newcomers so far this season have really flashed in my opinion.

1.Bryce Gibson as a true freshmen playing cb and making plays is usually unexpected at that position this early for a frosh.
 
2. Justus Reed has made plays (sacks) in every game in limited minutes.   Last night he had the SDS qb by the foot  on the pick he threw.

3. Kyle Hegedus while not new but is getting his 1st real playing time has been solid at saftey.  So far a sure tackler.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: penguinpower on October 02, 2017, 06:18:25 AM
SDSU  definitely has a lot of talent  on offense with no doubt a few good NFL prospects---however if their offense was all that strong it would've stayed on the field a lot longer than 14 minutes in a 60 minute game--had we been able to put pressure on their qb they might've been on the field for closer to 4 minutes. 8)



Thay team was a little snake bit.  If we played them 10 times They might beat us 4 or 5 of them.  The fact that we possessed the ball for such long periods really had an effect in their ability to get into any sort of rhythm.  They are a pass first team and use it to set up the run.  When they weren't able to get thay going they were doomed and we never let them get their machine untracked.  They will be around and in the playoffs.  we out physicaled them (if that is a word) and it prevented them from ever settling in.  It also disrupted the timing on some ofntheir routes.  Brilliant game plan by the coaching staff.  They used a carbon copy of what NDSU did to them in the playoffs last year.  same type of game where not NDSU and YSU had forced a safety as well.  the only difference was NDSU held the ball for 40 min and we held it for 45 min.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 02, 2017, 08:21:53 AM
Maybe I was at a different game. Their pass protection did impress me but yesterday their offense sure did not look like the stronger team to me. Only 3 minutes TOP in the second half and zero points, pretty weak. Over 45 minutes TOP to less then 15, I'd say that YSU's offense, at least for yesterday, looked pretty strong.

I usually am a nervous wreck until we have like a 40 point lead with 2 minutes to go. But the way our D was playing I felt comfortable from the near the end of the third on.

I feel good with Mays, tried to force a couple of passes but it all worked out. Like that he can run when needed, but I never feel good about a qb that wants to run first.

We lost some very good players on D from last year, a credit to the team that the D is playing, at least so far this year, as good as they are.

One of the better games I have been at for a while. Kudos to the players and the coaches.
I was at the same game as you!  I agree 100% with your points.  We played a GREAT game, on both sides of the ball.  This negativity is stunning to me.  We needed a fumble and an interception to hold them to 7?  WTF, we MADE the fumble with hustle, and Armond MADE the int. with a great reaching catch.  What do good teams do?  They MAKE PLAYS when needed.  As to the strength of their OL.  They had 3 1st downs rushing, 65 yards on the ground, less than 1 quarter TOP and scored 7 when averaging 44 coming in and these guys give credit to their OL???  They threw from 3 step drops all night because they knew they wouldn't have time.   Guinpen, I enjoyed the game we went to, hope the others aren't too depressed from their game!
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 02, 2017, 09:40:57 AM
SDSU  definitely has a lot of talent  on offense with no doubt a few good NFL prospects---however if their offense was all that strong it would've stayed on the field a lot longer than 14 minutes in a 60 minute game--had we been able to put pressure on their qb they might've been on the field for closer to 4 minutes. 8)



Thay team was a little snake bit.  If we played them 10 times They might beat us 4 or 5 of them.  The fact that we possessed the ball for such long periods really had an effect in their ability to get into any sort of rhythm.  They are a pass first team and use it to set up the run.  When they weren't able to get thay going they were doomed and we never let them get their machine untracked.  They will be around and in the playoffs.  we out physicaled them (if that is a word) and it prevented them from ever settling in.  It also disrupted the timing on some ofntheir routes.  Brilliant game plan by the coaching staff.  They used a carbon copy of what NDSU did to them in the playoffs last year.  same type of game where not NDSU and YSU had forced a safety as well.  the only difference was NDSU held the ball for 40 min and we held it for 45 min.
Honestly I've read several of the post-game comments here and had to stop and see if I was on a SDSU blog or a YSU blog!?!?!  We pounded them between the tackles for 4 quarters and they never were able to consistently stop the inside running.  They were never able to consistently run the ball nor take 5-7 step drops and throw the passes they normally throw.  These superior O & D line advantages that carry over game to game.   This was not a bad team.  If they were bad, some 4-5 of those 8-10 yard runs would have been 50 yard TD’s.  But we clearly beat them physically on both sides of the ball all night.  TOP is often a very misleading stat, but 45-15 is DAMN impressive.  IMO we play them 10 times we win at least 8 or 9.  Good grief guys, we have a QB that can’t throw the ball 10 yards downfield and they have the box packed and we still get 5 yards per carry.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 02, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
Great game, but it really looked like SDSU was the stronger team on offence for sure. Their passing game is strong for FCS (maybe even most of FBS) and team size was markedly bigger than we are. It has been said on this board that our uniforms make us look smaller, but I don't know.  They moved the ball at will for the most part, but turnovers really hurt them.  Thank God for Bo and company coaching the defense and special teams.  And we have a nice running game to use clock.  Our teams pre Bo would have been in deep trouble against them. Would not like to play their offence again. 

As for QB, it looks like Hunter may be questionable at best the rest of the year. Nathan Mays looks ok, but will need to pass the ball down field if we are to have a chance to be really good this year. Again Ricky Davis may be needed with Nathan Mays running and possibly getting hurt.  If that happens I hope Ricky is up to the challenge; I think he just might be after all he has been through.
SDSU stronger??  We pushed them around, both sides of the ball, all night long, how can you possible say that? 
Regarding size perception.  Simply not true.  Hard to follow the chart maybe, but we totaled 5" taller all players combined, and exactly the same weight. Starting O below:
      SDSU   Height   Wt         YSU   Height   Wt
         inches   lbs            inches   lbs
WR     11    Marquise Lewis     71   190   TE     86    Kuhn, Shane     76   245
WR     19    Jake Wieneke     76   215   WR     4     Patterson, D.     74   190
WR     1     Jacob Brown     71   190   WR     5     Bailey, Alvin     71   180
TE     86    Dallas Goedert     77   260   QB     6     Wells, Hunter     77   215
QB     3     Taryn Christion    74   220   TB     37    McCaster, Tevin    70   195
RB     44    BradyMengarelli    70   195   TE     83    Rader, Kevin     77   250
LT     68    Charlie Harmon     78   300   RT     71    Fraser, Cameron    76   290
LG     51    TianoPupungatoa    77   310   RG     74    Zinni, Jacob     76   305
C     62    Jacob Ohnesorge    75   295   C     70    Hrynkiewicz, V.    76   300
RG     77    Wes Genant     76   300   LG     60    Wiggins, Gavin     76   300
RT     70    Tyler Weir     76   300   LT     61    Spencer, Justin    77   305
            821   2775            826   2775
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: ytownchief22 on October 02, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
The game is over. Enough.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: go guins on October 02, 2017, 11:14:46 AM
The game is over. Enough.
I don't get you guys.  If I see something that doesn't interest me, I don't read it and don't comment on it.
Check the top of the thread, this thread is labeled "South Dakota State".  Game is over, yes, but thread is over when guys don't comment any more.  There is a thread started called "South Dakota" for those that don't want to review the SDSU game.  Question has come up repeated over the years about our players being smaller.  Simply isn't true and I did the research to substantiate my claim.  Read it, don't read it, I couldn't care less, but I don't get your objection to posting.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: guinpen on October 02, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
The game is over. Enough.

I assume this is tongue-in-cheek.
Title: Re: South Dakota State
Post by: DavedS on October 03, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
SDSU  definitely has a lot of talent  on offense with no doubt a few good NFL prospects---however if their offense was all that strong it would've stayed on the field a lot longer than 14 minutes in a 60 minute game--had we been able to put pressure on their qb they might've been on the field for closer to 4 minutes. 8)



Thay team was a little snake bit.  If we played them 10 times They might beat us 4 or 5 of them.  The fact that we possessed the ball for such long periods really had an effect in their ability to get into any sort of rhythm.  They are a pass first team and use it to set up the run.  When they weren't able to get thay going they were doomed and we never let them get their machine untracked.  They will be around and in the playoffs.  we out physicaled them (if that is a word) and it prevented them from ever settling in.  It also disrupted the timing on some ofntheir routes.  Brilliant game plan by the coaching staff.  They used a carbon copy of what NDSU did to them in the playoffs last year.  same type of game where not NDSU and YSU had forced a safety as well.  the only difference was NDSU held the ball for 40 min and we held it for 45 min.
Honestly I've read several of the post-game comments here and had to stop and see if I was on a SDSU blog or a YSU blog!?!?!  We pounded them between the tackles for 4 quarters and they never were able to consistently stop the inside running.  They were never able to consistently run the ball nor take 5-7 step drops and throw the passes they normally throw.  These superior O & D line advantages that carry over game to game.   This was not a bad team.  If they were bad, some 4-5 of those 8-10 yard runs would have been 50 yard TD’s.  But we clearly beat them physically on both sides of the ball all night.  TOP is often a very misleading stat, but 45-15 is DAMN impressive.  IMO we play them 10 times we win at least 8 or 9.  Good grief guys, we have a QB that can’t throw the ball 10 yards downfield and they have the box packed and we still get 5 yards per carry.
I went on the SDSU blog and they praised the YSU team big-time--most claimed it was a beatdown and that YSU manhandled them and several even called it an a$$-whuppin--if u want to read a lot of positive things about YSU in this game just go 2 their blog--the other day it was 28pages of basically praising YSU  which I was kind of surprised they did.