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Title: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 15, 2017, 01:53:48 PM
The new coaching staff has secured their 1st commitment.

6-5 F Garrett Covington from Don Bosco Prep (IN)

http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_article/show/723152
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: guinpen on April 15, 2017, 08:11:19 PM
Hope he is as good as the last Covington we had.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 15, 2017, 09:16:43 PM
Add 6'9" Jacob Brown from Clemmons Nd to the commitment list..Calhoun making an immediate impact
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 15, 2017, 10:08:18 PM
Brown was committed to Fairmont St earlier. Following Calhoun here.
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Post by: sandman on April 15, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Covington is a well built forward who can use his body against smaller wings......was a stat sheet stuffer at GAC high school in Atlanta which produced Malcolm Brogdon and Isaiah Wilkins of UVA.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 16, 2017, 06:55:51 AM
Brown needs at least 20 lbs of muscle and is skilled  but I love how he moved his feet defensively in his videos..Covington seems to be a bit of a sleeper because he relocated and slipped through some cracks...also looking to add a transfer of from Del St who made all league as a soph...Devin Morgan
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 16, 2017, 10:22:51 AM
Not blown away buy either.   Hopefully I'll be proven wrong.   Calhoun coming in late has a uphill battle and will see how he recruits going after 2018 players.   1:30 videos are never a great judge of talent.   

Anyone know what ever happened to Sydney Umude ?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 16, 2017, 10:56:28 AM
I disagree..take a close look at Brown..he needs to get stronger but skills are there
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on April 16, 2017, 11:00:37 AM
Not blown away buy either.   Hopefully I'll be proven wrong.   Calhoun coming in late has a uphill battle and will see how he recruits going after 2018 players.   1:30 videos are never a great judge of talent.   

Anyone know what ever happened to Sydney Umude ?
I would be happier if we are getting D-1 transfers than D-2 transfers.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 16, 2017, 12:21:13 PM
Just rewatched a bit of Brown's video...i saw a kid that hasn't even come close to filling out his frame but has the skills to be a good when he does...its easy to see the obvious..a solid looking stroke that seems fine for spot up 3's ...and surely the height to play inside...he finished plays with either hand but look at the little things I noticed
..he sealed nicely inside despite his thin frame and the thing I really loved with how he moved his feet on defense..he seemed a willing defender....with college coaching and physical maturity Jacob Brown looks like a great get...if you think he's nothing but a D2 player don't you think Calhoun would realize that too...
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 16, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
I have a feeling he brings in a JC post of some type and 2 transfers who will sit out
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 17, 2017, 03:07:16 PM
jbags,I hope you're right.   There's always an upside but you can say that about many prospects.   Last year when I saw Hartfield's video his skill level jumped out at me.  He also scored 37 points in the state semifinal vs Westerville South.

Bobby Hain's hs video showed him more of an outside shooter than a post up player like he was at YSU so you never know when a new players comes into the program.

Cam Morse only had one D1 offer so I hope Brown can develop into a legit Horizon league post player.

We really need a juco post player to go with our returning guys.  Morse,Santiago,and Hartfield are solid.  Someone like a williams or Rosic need to take their game up a level.   Our only big is Haygood  who has improved but can't stay out of foul trouble.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 17, 2017, 04:17:57 PM
I can't help but recall VASJ Coach Kwasnak's comments about Calhoun's ability to recruit good players but the "right" players..
To me that means guys that fit his style..his records at FSU lead me to believe he can do that...i expect much better contributions from Rahim Williams Hartsfield and Devin Haygood because they seem to fit his "run and stun" style...the fact that he must go deeper in his bench to play that way should stop guys from constantly transferring out...Keene..Andrews..Weber..Umude were perfect for this style...cant wait to see it all come together...we need a transfer 2 guard to sit out and then step in for Morse...Rob Edwards from Cleve St seems perfect
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Wick250 on April 17, 2017, 06:46:54 PM
Perhaps the reason that Slocum's teams always seemed to lack an identify was the fact that he had to take any plausible DI talent that was willing to come.  As jbags noted, Calhoun is seeking players that can fit into his style of play.  That is going to make a big difference.  For the first time since Peters, there is a plan.  Calhoun might end up disappointing us all, but I don't think so.  I really feel the long nightmare is coming to an end.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 17, 2017, 10:04:55 PM
Perhaps the reason that Slocum's teams always seemed to lack an identify was the fact that he had to take any plausible DI talent that was willing to come.  As jbags noted, Calhoun is seeking players that can fit into his style of play.  That is going to make a big difference.  For the first time since Peters, there is a plan.  Calhoun might end up disappointing us all, but I don't think so.  I really feel the long nightmare is coming to an end.

Yep. I love the staff he's put together. This group could do special things. I have a good feeling.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 17, 2017, 11:10:15 PM
Set up perfectly....3-4 year with Calhoun..he gets us a cou0le 20 win seasons and moves on and Bobby Steinberg takes over
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on April 18, 2017, 08:14:03 AM
Set up perfectly....3-4 year with Calhoun..he gets us a cou0le 20 win seasons and moves on and Bobby Steinberg takes over

This is announcement from YSU website and Vindy today:

Bobby Steinburg, who has been recognized as one of the nation's top assistant coaches by several national publications, has been named Associate Head Coach on the Youngstown State men's basketball staff, Head Coach Jerrod Calhoun announced.

Steinburg, who spent the last nine seasons at Kent State, was ranked seventh in CoachStat.net's Top 25 Mid-Major Assistants Ready for a Jump.  In 2015, NextUpRecruits.com acknowledged him as one of the Top-5 assistant coaches in the Mid-American Conference.  In December 2011, Basketball Times Magazine listed Steinburg as one of the 'Best Future NCAA Division I Head Coaches', ranking No. 6 nationally.

"Bobby brings a lot to the table," Calhoun said. "He's recruiting junior college and high school guys, and there's a lot of places he can get us in.

"Bobby also has a winning pedigree. Kent State is program that has been stable not only in the Mid-American Conference, but on a national level with the most recent NCAA Tournament appearance and various other postseason tournaments."

Last season, Steinburg helped the Golden Flashes to the 2017 Mid-American Conference Tournament Championship, an NCAA Tournament berth, a 22-14 overall record and victories in nine of their last 10 games before the NCAA Tournament.

Steinburg also aided Kent State to three MAC regular-season championships, averaging over 21 wins per season and reaching the postseason seven of his nine years.

Prior to joining the Kent State staff in 2008-09, Steinburg was the head coach for two seasons at Motlow State (Tenn.) College from 2006-08.

At Motlow State, Steinburg resurrected a moribund program that won only seven games in the season prior to his appointment into a national contender. In his first season at the helm, the Bucks compiled a 10-6 TJCCAA league record and a share of the Eastern Division regular season championship.  In year two, given time to bring a full recruiting class aboard, Steinburg led Motlow to a school record 28-5 mark, was ranked as high as No. 8, and finished with a No. 15 final national ranking.

Steinburg also had assistant coaching stints at UC Davis (2003-06), Bellarmine (2001-03), Idaho (2000-01), Motlow State (1998-00) and was a graduate assistant at Middle Tennessee State (1997-98).

Steinburg received his bachelor's and master's degrees at Middle Tennessee State. Originally from Oswego, N.Y., he grew up in Richmond, Va. He is the son of Rep. Bob Steinburg (R-NC) and Marie Steinburg.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 18, 2017, 08:36:13 AM
Maybe Steinburg doesn't want to be the YSU head BB coach at all.  Looking at his dad’s resume, maybe he wants to be Governor Tressel's Lieutenant Governor instead?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 18, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
Naz Bohannon, a 6-6 F/G from Lorain has committed. Had offers from Kent, Brown, New Mexico and Drexel for basketball. Averaged 17, 9 and 4 this year. Seems he was a nice DE football prospect as well. Had offers from Michigan State, Pitt, Cincy to play football. Athletic kid. He is Lorain's all time leading scorer.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 18, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
http://highschoolsports.cleveland.com/news/article/2360727999401588562/lorains-naz-bohannon-commits-to-youngstown-state-for-basketball/
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 18, 2017, 10:59:10 AM
What a great get! I was holding out hope that he chose us to play hoops instead of the fb route..this is exactly the kind of kid that will be a beast for us..rugged football mentality..if he was 6'7 he'd be in the Big 10. Great student too! Calhoun hit it into the upper deck on this one. One now schoolies and the transfer pg from Delaware St and he killed it on short recruiting time...wait til next year when Calhoun and Steinburg have a year to sell this program...i guarantee you Kent counted on that kid being in their class...JC post next I hope
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 18, 2017, 11:26:44 AM
Naz Bohannon, a 6-6 F/G looks more like a 6-4 "Sir Charles" type.  Wonder if he wants to be a 2 sport guy, because this guy is definitely a DE type body for a school that needs DEs!!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 18, 2017, 01:58:34 PM
Big get for Calhoun and staff.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 18, 2017, 03:08:04 PM
I just read the article on Naz and have not yet seen his video.  However,he has an AA degree with a 3.93 .   Not even sure how you do that while in HS.   VERY impressive.   His quote saying he's nothing without family and friends shows maturity and wisdom not usually reserved for a HS senior.  Love this kid already.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 18, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
I did take a minute to watch his football tape and he is making the right choice to play MBB.  The one thing the FB tape convinced me of is he is nowhere near 6-6.  Maybe 6-3 6-4 which means the G part of F/G is probably the most likely.  That being said, this kid seems like just what the Dr. ordered!  Glad to have him aboard!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 18, 2017, 03:21:47 PM
Watched his video.  Reminds me of a smaller Draymond Green.   His game  and size is very similar to the 1st recruit Garrett Covington.  Twin DE on our B-ball team.   Can't wait for the season.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 18, 2017, 04:49:47 PM
The Green comparison is a good one...Naz plays with an edge to him..very aggressive
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 19, 2017, 08:32:01 AM
The Green comparison is a good one...Naz plays with an edge to him..very aggressive
Not quite sure I'm ready to compare Bohannon to a 2 time NBA All-Star, 3 time All Defensive team player just yet. Let's just go with the "Naz plays with an edge to him..very aggressive" and leave the Hall of Fame debate until we see him play a bit?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 19, 2017, 03:10:03 PM
go guin,not implying Naz has Green's ability.  Just saying his game is similar style in a smaller body.  One is an NBA all star the other was the leading scorer for Lorain HS.  I pattern my game after Kyrie Irving but most days it takes me a few minutes to stand up straight after getting out of bed.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 20, 2017, 08:10:58 AM
go guin,not implying Naz has Green's ability.  Just saying his game is similar style in a smaller body.  One is an NBA all star the other was the leading scorer for Lorain HS.  I pattern my game after Kyrie Irving but most days it takes me a few minutes to stand up straight after getting out of bed.
One thing about these HS tapes is you don't see any defense.  Would like to see him play D before I start looking at comparisons.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Petey on April 22, 2017, 07:57:44 AM
Looking at Columbus paper this morning. Last night in all star game Naz scores 17 points. Reports he is a Butler signee?  Error correct??

GOOOO GUINS!!!!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Wick250 on April 22, 2017, 11:38:37 AM
Yesterday the YSU athletic website announced that Bohannon had signed his letter of intent.  If Butler was moving in at the last minute, that is very good news.  Reinforces the fact that this kid can play.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 22, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
Big time error. Kid can play and is ours. Love this coaching staff.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: YsuPride on April 22, 2017, 01:38:15 PM
Nice recruit.   Imagine what a coach who can recruit can do
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 24, 2017, 09:09:24 AM
Nice recruit.   Imagine what a coach who can recruit can do
You've got that right.  If you have your choice of me coaching and Mike Krzyzewski recruiting, OR Krzyzewski coaching and me recruiting, trust me, take me coaching.  You HAVE to have players.  (neither option would be "ideal," afterall Coach K is getting older!  Just turned 70) 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: YsuPride on April 24, 2017, 06:36:36 PM
Super excited to see what Calhoun can Do for our program.  Now I'll be back at Beeghly
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 24, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
Michael Akuchie 6-8 from St Thomas Aquinas Ft Lauderdale fl is our newest verbal.  He's only about 185 lbs.  Just watched his video and he showed a good handle and someone who likes to run the floor.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 25, 2017, 09:01:12 AM
Michael Akuchie 6-8 from St Thomas Aquinas Ft Lauderdale fl is our newest verbal.  He's only about 185 lbs.  Just watched his video and he showed a good handle and someone who likes to run the floor.
Looks more like 165 lbs. and will need to add some strength, but moves well, handles well, nice shooting touch, we can wait a year for the weight room to "do it's thing."   You can't teach 6-8
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 25, 2017, 09:05:31 AM
The team is going to be athletic, that's for sure. Up and down the court. Love it.

Also if anybody didn't see. WKBN got granted access to practice and had coach mic'd up.

http://wkbn.com/2017/04/24/calhouns-vision-brings-a-fan-base-excitement/
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 25, 2017, 09:19:42 AM
The team is going to be athletic, that's for sure. Up and down the court. Love it.

Also if anybody didn't see. WKBN got granted access to practice and had coach mic'd up.

http://wkbn.com/2017/04/24/calhouns-vision-brings-a-fan-base-excitement/
Nice!  One quote was "you should be running and dunking, and getting this place going"!  That is EXACTLY what is needed.  Opening practice, wearing a mic.  That is MARKETING his program!  This guy gets it.  We can only hope some of the sports adminstration was listening.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 25, 2017, 10:44:43 AM
That was the first time the local media was allowed access to a men's basketball practice in over 10 years.... Slocum did not allow them before. I love this guy and his staff. Bright things ahead for the program!!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Joe Bernastat on April 25, 2017, 12:28:43 PM
If he is good enough for The Chief, the guy must be something special. 

Joe Cool  8)
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 25, 2017, 04:01:51 PM



Just for go guins.   Akuchie =  Scotty Pippen 8)
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 25, 2017, 05:28:26 PM
Going out on a limb and projecting this recruiting class as the one to win our league and get us to the NCAA's....i don't anticipate any transfers because Calhoun's style of ball will allow playing time for all....do we keep that last schoolies or find a 2 guard now to replace Morse...kinda thought we'd get a transfer to sit a year then slide into Cam's spot or a transfer pg to fill Santiago's
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 25, 2017, 06:03:43 PM
jbags,I'm still hoping for someone with a little bit of size to help in the post.  Devin Haygood fills the role but there's no one else on the roster and he gets into foul trouble.   
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: IAA Fan on April 25, 2017, 07:32:26 PM
The team is going to be athletic, that's for sure. Up and down the court. Love it.

Also if anybody didn't see. WKBN got granted access to practice and had coach mic'd up.

http://wkbn.com/2017/04/24/calhouns-vision-brings-a-fan-base-excitement/
Nice!  One quote was "you should be running and dunking, and getting this place going"!  That is EXACTLY what is needed.  Opening practice, wearing a mic.  That is MARKETING his program!  This guy gets it.  We can only hope some of the sports adminstration was listening.

So you think this was Calhoun walking in and playing "Dirty Harry" in order try and carry the ransom for the kidnapped girl? :)  Just telling the admin what he was going to do? (just teasing) They would never hire or keep someone like that. Also when was the last time in the last 10-years we had a court practice in April? Substituting speed for skill is not going to make it in the Horizon...defense. Oh wait Butler and Loyola left ...maybe it will. Coach needs time to adjust to DI, I will give it to him. Creating a "buzz" can be nothing but good for the program ...that's for sure.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 26, 2017, 09:01:20 AM
1AA, I have never, and still don't get the adjust to D-1 stuff.  Coaching is coaching.  BB or FB is BB and FB.  If you can coach you can coach.  Guys go up and down all the time.  The good ones win at every level and the lesser perform to a lesser extent.  Yes, he will need time to recruit players and some with need a year to be physically ready. same as with ALL programs, but you act like the Horizon League is some really tough league to get prepared for. and to me is is really about lower than weaker mid-major play.  Seems to me that the Horizon League is going to have to adjust to coach Calhoun as much as he is going to have to adjust to them.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: IAA Fan on April 26, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
You hit the nail on the head. DI is less about style than DII, especially at the MM level. When you are an upper end conference club, in an upper-level conference, then 1-guy is not going to make the difference. At our level, one player can make your entire team. A DII club is almost never going to see that caliber of a player, so they adjust style to get an edge. I do not see any Horizon team adjusting to YSU, with two exceptions that are already speedy. Now certain dominating upper-end teams in DI will play a certain style (UK, Mich State, UNC, Old UCLA, etc.) but those are few and far between. You don't see Matta changing the Buckeyes to win 2-games a year again MSU do you? Now if 9 teams in the Big-10 played the same style as MSU, then Matta would lose his job if he did not "keep up with the Jones". YSU was one of a few teams that adjusted to compete with Butler in the conference, but they were so good for so long we had no choice. Should Calhoun win consistently (and we all hope for that to occur) then maybe a couple of coaches will adjust.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on April 26, 2017, 04:58:38 PM
Coaches can decided on the types of offensive and defensive scheme that they want to play. Unless they can find the types of good players to fit into those schemes, it would not work.

I used to visit my family in Las Vegas in the 80's. Many of my relatives graduated from UNLV. Jerry the "shark" won lots of games with an uptempo game known as "the running rebels" at UNLV. I was able to watched couple of games at UNLV the year when they won the NCAA. I believed 4 of the starting 5 played in the NBA. The Shark was the talk of the town.

His offensive scheme was very simple. He figured that a team would typically have 12 turnovers per game. He had his players raced past mid-court and shot the 3's as soon as possible. The quick shoots eliminated the turnovers resulting in almost in average gain of 10-15 points. They regularly scored over 100 points.

Fast forward a few years, the shark was kicked out of UNLV because of some type of violations. He went to other schools using similar schemes without any success. HE COULD NOT GET THE PLAYERS!

We shall see if we will be successful. We needs good players. Right now, we have a power forward who could not  shoot over 50% FT, could not finish under the basket, could not make layups and could not get away from fouls trouble. We need good players...... Hope the new coach can bring them in....
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 26, 2017, 11:27:02 PM
Devin Morgan‏ @D_Morgan22  1h1 hour ago

Blessed to say I've committed to Youngstown St University ⚪️🔴⚫️

PG. Delaware State transfer. Averaged 15 ppg.

Cam and Santiago play while Devin sits out a year and then the reigns are his.

Love what this staff is doing!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 27, 2017, 10:51:01 AM
Devin Morgan‏ @D_Morgan22  1h1 hour ago

Blessed to say I've committed to Youngstown St University ⚪️🔴⚫️

PG. Delaware State transfer. Averaged 15 ppg.

Cam and Santiago play while Devin sits out a year and then the reigns are his.

Love what this staff is doing!
Warren Tribune talked about this kid last night.  Several of the Freshman recruits are a year of D-1 training away from being competitive anyway, so waiting dor Devin "fits".
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 27, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
You hit the nail on the head. DI is less about style than DII, especially at the MM level. When you are an upper end conference club, in an upper-level conference, then 1-guy is not going to make the difference. At our level, one player can make your entire team. A DII club is almost never going to see that caliber of a player, so they adjust style to get an edge. I do not see any Horizon team adjusting to YSU, with two exceptions that are already speedy. Now certain dominating upper-end teams in DI will play a certain style (UK, Mich State, UNC, Old UCLA, etc.) but those are few and far between. You don't see Matta changing the Buckeyes to win 2-games a year again MSU do you? Now if 9 teams in the Big-10 played the same style as MSU, then Matta would lose his job if he did not "keep up with the Jones". YSU was one of a few teams that adjusted to compete with Butler in the conference, but they were so good for so long we had no choice. Should Calhoun win consistently (and we all hope for that to occur) then maybe a couple of coaches will adjust.
" DI is less about style than DII,"
I don't believe that even for a second.  Just look around, it is all about the coach and his style. 

"When you are an upper end conference club, in an upper-level conference, then 1-guy is not going to make the difference."
That simply isn't true.  You are saying that one kid can't turn around a major conference MBB program?  I could site dozens where that exact thing has happened.
1AA I love your historical prospective to YSU athletics and your passion for YSU athletics, and I love your blog, but sometimes you run to delusional.  My original point here was if Calhoun can coach, he can coach.  If he can recruit, he can recruit.  Dozens of coaches have moved up, and down, and proven that to be true over time.  Calhoun doesn’t need 18 seconds to adjust to 1A MBB. 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 27, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
I know a coach who went from a lower level to D1 and was very very successful.   I think his name was Tressel or something like that.   
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 27, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Love Devin Morgan's video.   He's a scorer but not excited about his .369 shooting %.  Hope he can bring a little Marcus Keene to Beeghly minus the punch.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 27, 2017, 03:24:11 PM
What a great recruiting class...all built in what seems like a short amount of time however relationships formed by this entire staff led to all this...Bohanon would've  signed at Kent but relationship to Steinberg got him here...prior relationships to Slay got us Akuchie...Calhoun brought in Brown ...Covington and Morgan had to have crossed paths with this staff at some point....this solid foundation at a variety of positions will lead into next year's 4 player class...when these 8 are jrs and sophs and Morgan is a sr is when we jump to the class of the Horizon...cant wait to have 2 entire recruiting classes come through this program for 4 years...thats what will get us into the Dance for the first time
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 27, 2017, 03:39:55 PM
What a great recruiting class...all built in what seems like a short amount of time however relationships formed by this entire staff led to all this...Bohanon would've  signed at Kent but relationship to Steinberg got him here...prior relationships to Slay got us Akuchie...Calhoun brought in Brown ...Covington and Morgan had to have crossed paths with this staff at some point....this solid foundation at a variety of positions will lead into next year's 4 player class...when these 8 are jrs and sophs and Morgan is a sr is when we jump to the class of the Horizon...cant wait to have 2 entire recruiting classes come through this program for 4 years...thats what will get us into the Dance for the first time
"thats what will get us into the Dance for the first time"  Yep, that just might happen, and then WHAM 89-44 and we become the 275th 16 seed to get crushed by a #1.  We need a 1AA for basketball as well as football.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on April 27, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
No reason whatsoever that we can't become as competitive as MAC teams in the NCAA's....plus a giant $$ bonanza...much more than out Frisco TX appearance ever could
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 27, 2017, 06:26:10 PM
No reason whatsoever that we can't become as competitive as MAC teams in the NCAA's....plus a giant $$ bonanza...much more than out Frisco TX appearance ever could

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 28, 2017, 08:47:12 AM
No reason whatsoever that we can't become as competitive as MAC teams in the NCAA's....plus a giant $$ bonanza...much more than out Frisco TX appearance ever could
giant $$ bonanza?  Not sure about Horizon League, but most leagues collect all tournament money and distribute it among all conference teams.  Can anybody confirm or correct this?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 28, 2017, 09:39:47 AM
It's up to the conference to distribute the money, yes. Northern Kentucky received 1.77 million this year for playing one game.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 28, 2017, 09:47:09 AM
It's up to the conference to distribute the money, yes. Northern Kentucky received 1.77 million this year for playing one game.
It's up the the conference, yes, but the question is, does the Horizon league collect and distribute or not?  Northern Kentudky EARNED 1.77 M but did they keep it, or does YSU get $177,000 along with everybody else?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Penguin Nick on April 28, 2017, 10:00:06 AM
Posted by go guins:  "thats what will get us into the Dance for the first time"  Yep, that just might happen, and then WHAM 89-44 and we become the 275th 16 seed to get crushed by a #1.  We need a 1AA for basketball as well as football. "


A 1AA in basketball would be irrelevant, who would care (it's called Division 2).  I'd rather be a 15-16 seed and lose big than win a 1AA basketball title.  go guins, such a negative attitude, it sounds like you have absolutely no faith in the basketball team becoming a known entity and doing damage in the tournament.  I ABSOLUTELY believe it can happen, maybe not immediately but it can happen.  I hope fairly soon up-grades to Beeghly will occur, they are sorely needed. 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 28, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Posted by go guins:  "thats what will get us into the Dance for the first time"  Yep, that just might happen, and then WHAM 89-44 and we become the 275th 16 seed to get crushed by a #1.  We need a 1AA for basketball as well as football. "


A 1AA in basketball would be irrelevant, who would care (it's called Division 2).  I'd rather be a 15-16 seed and lose big than win a 1AA basketball title.  go guins, such a negative attitude, it sounds like you have absolutely no faith in the basketball team becoming a known entity and doing damage in the tournament.  I ABSOLUTELY believe it can happen, maybe not immediately but it can happen.  I hope fairly soon up-grades to Beeghly will occur, they are sorely needed.
A 1AA in basketball would be irrelevant,"
So you believe our football program is "irrelevant"?  Sorry, I disagree.  I think it is just right for YSU and similar schools.
"Who would care (it's called Division 2)”
No, it would be 1AA.  There is a division II already, 1AA BB would mimic the success of 1AA football. 
"I'd rather be a 15-16 seed and lose big than win a 1AA basketball title." 
Oh yeah, I think playing a #1 seed and getting our brains kicked in would be wonderful.  16 seeds are ZERO for EVER!  I disagree completely with you.  I love the 1AA football tournament.  Very competitive games.  You think the playoff games this season were nothing compared to getting pummeled in Pitt?  I disagree 100%
"go guins, such a negative attitude, it sounds like you have absolutely no faith in the basketball team"
No, exactly the opposite.  I have great faith in Coach Calhoun.  But YSU is far better suited to competing at a level similar to football, than D1.  I just want to get him on a level playing field for a tournament.   
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Penguin Nick on April 28, 2017, 10:53:44 AM
Comparing a 1AA in basketball to a 1AA in football is comparing apples to oranges.  Generally, smaller schools cannot compete at the very highest levels in football but they can in basketball.  If a school invests in their basketball program they have a chance - the history of the NCAA Basketball Tournament proves this point.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on April 28, 2017, 11:05:18 AM
Comparing a 1AA in basketball to a 1AA in football is comparing apples to oranges.  Generally, smaller schools cannot compete at the very highest levels in football but they can in basketball.  If a school invests in their basketball program they have a chance - the history of the NCAA Basketball Tournament proves this point.

I dispute your claim.  The key word in your claim is "generally" and GENERALLY they can't compete.  You can site incidences of a mid major schools with a hot run.  Recently Butler and Wichita State are noteworthy, but the noteworthiness of that reinforces my claim that the smaller schools are "generally" not competitive. 
There are 1AA football programs with big time wins.  YSU over Pitt for example, or Appy State over the team up North.  But those are exceptions to the rule, not proof the rule is wrong.  1AA basketball makes as much sense as 1AA football.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: BigDWSU on April 28, 2017, 01:31:14 PM
It's up to the conference to distribute the money, yes. Northern Kentucky received 1.77 million this year for playing one game.
It's up the the conference, yes, but the question is, does the Horizon league collect and distribute or not?  Northern Kentudky EARNED 1.77 M but did they keep it, or does YSU get $177,000 along with everybody else?

The HL divides all NCAA tournament money into 12 shares.  The team that earned the NCAA tournament money gets 2 shares.  The HL gets 1 share to cover operational costs and all remaining HL teams get 1 share.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Wick250 on April 28, 2017, 01:54:37 PM
Thanks BigD.

I thought the distribution was something like that, but I was not sure.  Having a competitive basketball program and even making the tournament will be great for the university in several ways.  But it will not be a "cash cow."  Only teams in power conferences that get multiple bids and have their teams make deep runs gain a financial bonanza from the NCAA tournament. 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 28, 2017, 02:05:19 PM
Thanks BigD.

I thought the distribution was something like that, but I was not sure.  Having a competitive basketball program and even making the tournament will be great for the university in several ways.  But it will not be a "cash cow."  Only teams in power conferences that get multiple bids and have their teams make deep runs gain a financial bonanza from the NCAA tournament.

The exposure alone can be worth a lot more. Nobody gives a crap about the FCS football playoffs. Even our fans. Shown with the attendance in the home playoff games. Heck, we lost money on the Wofford game.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: OleYSUfan on April 28, 2017, 03:38:26 PM
The following are YSU basketball commits:
Garrett Covington   6'5''
Jacob Brown           6'9''
Naz Bohannon        6"6"
Michael Akuchie      6'8"
Devin Morgan         5"10"   (must sit out 1st season)

Appears to be a good recruitment class, I don't believe we can have anymore recruits for the 2017-2018 season.
There seems to be a lot of excitement about this class and high hopes on this board, we certainly welcome these new recruits and hope for positive results in the upcoming 2017-2018 season.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 28, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
The following are YSU basketball commits:
Garrett Covington   6'5''
Jacob Brown           6'9''
Naz Bohannon        6"6"
Michael Akuchie      6'8"
Devin Morgan         5"10"   (must sit out 1st season)

Appears to be a good recruitment class, I don't believe we can have anymore recruits for the 2017-2018 season.
There seems to be a lot of excitement about this class and high hopes on this board, we certainly welcome these new recruits and hope for positive results in the upcoming 2017-2018 season.

I thought that we might have one more since Morgan won't be eligible this season. 

Frosh =Akuchie, Bohannon,Brown,and Covington.  (4)
Soph =Ferguson,Hartfield. (2)
JR = Davis,Haygood,and Morgan (3)
Sr = Santiago,Williams,Rosic,Strollo,and Morse. (5)

That's 14 on the roster.  Not sure Strollo counts for obvious reasons and Does Morgan count this season ?

Should we call the freshman class the ABC men?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ValleyTalk on April 28, 2017, 09:11:06 PM
@JDotson8: Per his Facebook page, one-time Milan basketball standout Latin Davis will be transferring from Youngstown State.

That will be another scholarship with him transferring out. Too bad, I really liked Latin.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: IAA Fan on April 28, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Thanks BigD.

I thought the distribution was something like that, but I was not sure.  Having a competitive basketball program and even making the tournament will be great for the university in several ways.  But it will not be a "cash cow."  Only teams in power conferences that get multiple bids and have their teams make deep runs gain a financial bonanza from the NCAA tournament.

The exposure alone can be worth a lot more. Nobody gives a crap about the FCS football playoffs. Even our fans. Shown with the attendance in the home playoff games. Heck, we lost money on the Wofford game.

??  fb ??

Sure you did not mean to say basketball? I mean the last time I checked we just had our 27th draft pick go to the Patriots. Dry spell yes, but it pales in comparison to our dry spell in basketball. Heck what are you ashamed of? Most of the teams in the HL have power sports that are not MBB. You don't think that UIC would drop MBB for better Volleyball? I don't recall any UWGB players on the US basketball team, yet I recall seeing multiple member of Green Bay Ski team make the Olympic team. We are what we are and the Ice Castle is not known as a tough place to play women's soccer.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 29, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
@JDotson8: Per his Facebook page, one-time Milan basketball standout Latin Davis will be transferring from Youngstown State.

That will be another scholarship with him transferring out. Too bad, I really liked Latin.


I liked Latin too.  He was a little up and down but always thought he would step up his jr and sr year.  Looks like Ferguson is going to get back up minutes behind Santiago.

If that opens a scholarship then we desperately need another big for the upcoming season.  I know they don't grow on trees however we are thin in the paint.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on April 29, 2017, 07:37:51 PM
@JDotson8: Per his Facebook page, one-time Milan basketball standout Latin Davis will be transferring from Youngstown State.

That will be another scholarship with him transferring out. Too bad, I really liked Latin.

Any nformation on why he is transferring out? Does it have anything to do with the new style of play and the new coaching staff ?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 04, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
Deaundra Murphy, a 6-4 guard from St. Joseph's in WV has committed. Led the entire state in scoring at 28 ppg. Love this class!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 05, 2017, 08:30:12 AM
Deaundra Murphy, a 6-4 guard from St. Joseph's in WV has committed. Led the entire state in scoring at 28 ppg. Love this class!
Love this COACH!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 05, 2017, 03:26:42 PM
It says he's a walk on .   Looks like he has a nice stroke.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 05, 2017, 05:36:34 PM
I don't think he's a walk-on is he ? Latin Davis leaving freed up another scholly.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 05, 2017, 06:04:01 PM
I don't think he's a walk-on is he ? Latin Davis leaving freed up another scholly.


Verbalcommits.com lists his status as walk on.    I read on one site that he was ranked the #4 player in the state and on another had him ranked 8th.   anyhow,how often do we talk YSU basketball in May ?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Commissioner on May 06, 2017, 12:43:48 PM
As a big basketball fan of a different Horizon school, it's just nice to see some enthusiasm for basketball at YSU. It's good for everyone in the league if YSU finally gets competitive. Calhoun was a great hire, and a perfect fit for the Mahoning Valley. And if some of the guys he's bringing in look--at least on paper--a bit marginal as D-I players, that's OK. He's working on a short recruiting season and he's obviously going to guys he likes and with whom he's built a relationship while recruiting them for Fairmont. It's still the best YSU recruiting class in a while, and it will get better in future years.

If anyone is interested, I've got a little summary of HL recruiting classes at http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/thread/627/horizon-league-recruit-transfer-commitments

Go 'Guins!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: OleYSUfan on May 08, 2017, 10:27:44 AM
YSU basketball is still trying to recruit another player for the 2017-18 season; these names are offered:

Zack Pfaggenberger   6"9"
Brandon Goldsmith    6"4"
Kody Shubert            6"0"
Caleb Catto               6"4"
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 08, 2017, 01:59:06 PM
3 of them are for the 2018 class and one committed elsewhere
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 08, 2017, 02:04:46 PM
I also see that Rahim Williams is leaving.
That gives us 2 more scholarships.
I'm thinking at least 1 JC  kid will be brought in..wonder if Calhoun has suggested that Davis and Williams should transfer or if they saw the handwriting on the wall
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: IAA Fan on May 08, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
I think style has much to do with it. In an up-tempo offense, you have to shoot fast and accuracy suffers. Yet you hope the number of shots makes up for the lower in-basket percentage. How do the basketball experts on the board see this new style impacting fouls? Will we have more or less? The same but maybe more away from the ball?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 08, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
I think the style seemed to fit Rahim.
Run and jump...i think pushing the ball leads to easy buckets be it layups or great looks off the secondary break.. Cavs are at their best with this style...and no I'm not comparing us to the Cavs..its just a better sell to recruits..
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 08, 2017, 03:47:16 PM
I also thought Rahim would excel in this style.   He's going to be a senior so we only had him for this up coming season.   He's a great weak side shot blocker.   We need another big.  Not sure this late in the game there are any bigs out there but Calhoun has showed that he can find players.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 08, 2017, 05:41:36 PM
Rosie transferri g out too...no doubt in my mind now that Calhoun painted a picture that did not include them...thought they were questionable D1 talents at best...Calhoun and staff know exactly what they are doing...i believe 2 jucos are on their way...this staff has too many contacts to not bring in better talent than the 3 that are leaving
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 08, 2017, 06:01:02 PM
Rosie transferri g out too...no doubt in my mind now that Calhoun painted a picture that did not include them...thought they were questionable D1 talents at best...Calhoun and staff know exactly what they are doing...i believe 2 jucos are on their way...this staff has too many contacts to not bring in better talent than the 3 that are leaving

Wow Rosic is gone too.   He was our back up big who was more suited to play on the wing based on his size and euro style of play.   Rosic & Williams both only had one year left so maybe this was mutual ?   Coaching staff has to have a game plan.  If no juco then the frosh will be playing some serious minutes.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 08, 2017, 06:50:33 PM
Anyone think coach Calhoun should go after Tony Farmer 6-7 235 Garfield hts Lee college jc TX ?

I know in 2012 he went to jail on some serious charges but the kid paid his debt and did 2 yrs of juco ball.  Coach has the Cleveland connection but would there be some blow back from the community ?   I know Tressel had a history of some high risk athletes.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 08, 2017, 08:15:33 PM
I emailed Coach Calhoun about him just after he took the job but didn't hear back..that kid is a stud..Big10 talent...id be all over him
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 08, 2017, 08:33:44 PM
Farmer signed with an agent and is entering in the draft. He's unable to return to college.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 08, 2017, 09:26:52 PM
Farmer signed with an agent and is entering in the draft. He's unable to return to college.

Thanks chief,I guess he'll be getting paid over seas.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 08, 2017, 10:41:35 PM
Noe' Anabir from Mesa CC has committed. 6-8 forward. Originally from Switzerland.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 09, 2017, 02:01:38 PM
Noe' Anabir from Mesa CC has committed. 6-8 forward. Originally from Switzerland.

Much needed big man.   He only averaged 9pts and 5 reb per game but that's a little deceptive since he only played 17 minutes a game on a team where their leading scorer averaged 13 pts a game while averaging 19 minutes which was the most on the team.  Looks like Mesa cc coach played everyone.

Anabir should get a lot of minutes along with Haygood.  They're are only bigs.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 09, 2017, 08:55:50 PM
Another 6'11" kid from Cali commited...told you Calhoun had guys waiting for scholarships..cant wait to get this thing rolling
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 09, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Alex Wilbourn, a 6-11 C from San Diego City College has committed. Long and lean. More of a face up forward than a post up. Seems like he runs pretty well. Should fit the system.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 09, 2017, 09:15:17 PM
Alex Wilbourn, a 6-11 C from San Diego City College has committed. Long and lean. More of a face up forward than a post up. Seems like he runs pretty well. Should fit the system.

It's like Christmas in May.   Is there any more room at the inn ?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 09, 2017, 09:23:22 PM
One more scholarship remaining.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on May 09, 2017, 09:47:42 PM
Alex Wilbourn, a 6-11 C from San Diego City College has committed. Long and lean. More of a face up forward than a post up. Seems like he runs pretty well. Should fit the system.
Do you know how many more years of eligibility does he still have at YSU?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 09, 2017, 09:59:40 PM
Alex Wilbourn, a 6-11 C from San Diego City College has committed. Long and lean. More of a face up forward than a post up. Seems like he runs pretty well. Should fit the system.
Do you know how many more years of eligibility does he still have at YSU?

He should have 2 years.  He was listed as a sophomore at San Diego CC.

That's 8 new players Calhoun has brought in with one sitting out as a transfer.  This has to be the largest incoming class in YSU history.   These guys are going to need name tags at there 1st practice.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Dmorton on May 09, 2017, 10:30:34 PM
This is the type of recruiting efforts and energy toward the BB program that should have been going on all along.  This is exciting stuff!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: mudclods on May 09, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
I'm not really surprised to see Williams & Rosic go.  I thought early in the season Williams was going to be a huge pickup for YSU.  He was very impressive in the Akron win, but he just never seemed to recover from his injury...same with Rosic.  Neither just mentally seemed to be in the game at times.  Rosic seemed slow and confused at times when he had the ball.  Honestly doesn't even seem like a Division I athlete.  Williams seemed to make to many mental mistakes, which was disappointing because it seemed like he had the talent. 

I really did like Latin Davis, and am disappointed to see him go with 2 years left.  He seemed like a great person and was very exciting at times to watch.  He impressed me with what he could at his size.  He did seem to be inconsistent though and I wondered if he'd stick around. 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 10, 2017, 02:36:23 PM
Wilbourn is going to be a nice addition .   He needs to continue to add muscle but if you watch his high school sr video and contrast that to his 2nd year at CC it's like two different guys.  He has added strength and athleticism. Whether it's being 2 years older or he got in the weight room or both.
We're not at this point going to get a 4 star or 5 star guys so coach needs to finds these overlooked players with upside and I hope he has.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 10, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
Getting more and more excited.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 11, 2017, 09:36:45 AM
I think style has much to do with it. In an up-tempo offense, you have to shoot fast and accuracy suffers. Yet you hope the number of shots makes up for the lower in-basket percentage. How do the basketball experts on the board see this new style impacting fouls? Will we have more or less? The same but maybe more away from the ball?
The reason to run an up tempo offense is the get the ball up court before the defense is set.  It should RAISE not lower shooting percentages.  Fouls are basicly defensive in nature and the style of offense shouldn't make much difference, but the negative would be higher turnovers. 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 11, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
This is going to be such a  breath of fresh air for the fans...ive been begging for it for years.. I was in favor of givi g Kevin Mackey a second chance back when Slocum was hired...CSU's "Run and Stun" was beautiful to watch...question..does Calhoun hang onto the last scholarship because he has only 2 seniors? Or does he bring in someone now? And will he redshirt Jacob Brown as hes brought in 2 JC posts?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 11, 2017, 09:55:27 AM
This is going to be such a  breath of fresh air for the fans...ive been begging for it for years.. I was in favor of givi g Kevin Mackey a second chance back when Slocum was hired...CSU's "Run and Stun" was beautiful to watch...question..does Calhoun hang onto the last scholarship because he has only 2 seniors? Or does he bring in someone now? And will he redshirt Jacob Brown as hes brought in 2 JC posts?
also there was/is some issue with numbers of players.  didn't we have more players on scholarship that allowed?  Don't we need to hold on to some rather than have no freshman class next year?
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on May 11, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
This is going to be such a  breath of fresh air for the fans...ive been begging for it for years.. I was in favor of givi g Kevin Mackey a second chance back when Slocum was hired...CSU's "Run and Stun" was beautiful to watch...question..does Calhoun hang onto the last scholarship because he has only 2 seniors? Or does he bring in someone now? And will he redshirt Jacob Brown as hes brought in 2 JC posts?
also there was/is some issue with numbers of players.  didn't we have more players on scholarship that allowed?  Don't we need to hold on to some rather than have no freshman class next year?
IMO, he might be able to red-shirted couple of the incoming Freshmen. i am not sure if the players have to be on scholarship to play or dress. I thought, in the past, we had couple non-scholarship players on the team. I believe there is a NCAA rule for maximum number of players who dress for the game. However, if there were scholarship players on the injured list, we could play non scholarship players in their place.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 11, 2017, 10:57:33 AM
Honestly, it sounds like all of us a guessing on these scholarship issues, number of players, partial scholarships etc. 
If I get some time, I'll so some research.  This should be easier than football as all you find in football is 1A but in BB we ARE 1A
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 11, 2017, 12:36:25 PM
I Thu k 13 schlarshiped players and 2 walkons...i think their is no maximum..all 15 allowed to dress..we will have 13 if he holds a schoolies back..Morgan can't dress but is on scholarship..Murphy as of now a walkon
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 11, 2017, 01:04:16 PM
We have one scholarship remaining for this year with all the recruits who have signed and remaining players.

Strollo doesn't count as being on scholarship because of his dad I'm pretty sure of that.

Morse and Santiago graduate after this coming year so there's 2 more opening up for next year.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 11, 2017, 01:23:22 PM
There is no limit on the number of players on a team. The NCAA limits scholarships to 13, and 15 total can suit up for a game. Kentucky had 20 players on the team in Billy G's last year. Obviously five of those did not make the trip for away games or suit up for home games.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 14, 2017, 09:32:31 AM
http://www.tribtoday.com/sports/ysu-sports/2017/05/penguin-recruits-have-a-history-with-swiss-u-20-national-team/

Nice story.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 15, 2017, 09:35:39 AM
http://www.tribtoday.com/sports/ysu-sports/2017/05/penguin-recruits-have-a-history-with-swiss-u-20-national-team/

Nice story.
He was certainly right with his reference to a "small world"!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 15, 2017, 02:49:43 PM
Tyree Robinson Odessa CC 6-5 220 lb.   Listed as a forward on their roster.  12.8 ppg and 7 rebounds playing an average of 15 minutes a game . shot 66% from the field.   I thinks we're done with next years roster.

HS senior numbers were 25.7 ppg 14 rebounds 5.5 blocks in the Boston area (actually 50 miles south of Boston).   I just watched his video and he's a monster inside who mostly dunks.  I read were he was going to commit to New Mexico state.   Looks like a big pickup for the Penguins.     He 's the guy you want getting off the bus first.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on May 15, 2017, 03:26:27 PM
Tyree Robinson Odessa CC 6-5 220 lb.   Listed as a forward on their roster.  12.8 ppg and 7 rebounds playing an average of 15 minutes a game . shot 66% from the field.   I thinks we're done with next years roster.

HS senior numbers were 25.7 ppg 14 rebounds 5.5 blocks in the Boston area (actually 50 miles south of Boston).   I just watched his video and he's a monster inside who mostly dunks.  I read were he was going to commit to New Mexico state.   Looks like a big pickup for the Penguins.     He 's the guy you want getting off the bus first.

He is built like Sir Charles and I hope he could play like him (I will take 80% of Sir Charles).
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 15, 2017, 03:59:37 PM
https://twitter.com/YSUMensHoops/status/864191073559687168
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 15, 2017, 05:10:45 PM
First 3* prospect I ever remember us getting...next year is gonna be fun my friends
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 15, 2017, 06:07:27 PM
Calhoun has brought in NINE new players with Devin Morgan sitting out this year.  I hope these guys can play since we have had a lot guys in the past who couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie.

We have a center,power forwards,small forwards,two guards,and a point guard in this historical haul.
The only thing we might not have is that designated 3 point shooter(zone buster) that many teams have .  DeAndra Murphy might be that guy although I'm not sure if he's a walk on or on scholarship.

I'm so glad we have guys like Naz Bohannon and Tyree Robinson.  The strong power guys have given YSU fits in the past and now we can match up.   

Not sure what the starting line up is next season but Morse,Santiago,and Hartfield will start.   Got to believe with 2 years in the Horizon league that Haygood would be a starter but he'll be pushed.   Haygood has really improved from his freshman year to his Sophomore season so if he pushes it little more he'll be solid and he has help.

I really believe that Braun Hartfield is going to take it to another level next season.  He really came on during the Horizon part of the season while barely playing early.   He has the skills to be all conference.

Warning to the Horizon league,YSU basketball is going to be a tough out starting this November.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 15, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
Odessa is a very good JUCO program. Robinson looks like a nicely built athletic kid that will work vey well in Calhoun's system.


Also, Geoff Hamperian has joined the team as a walk-on. 6-5 F/G from University School in WV.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ysuhoops24 on May 15, 2017, 07:45:06 PM
These past couple weeks have been like Christmas every morning.  Wake up, go to work, get home and see who we signed and every day our team got better and better.  I can't wait.  It's going to be a fun ride the next few years. 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on May 15, 2017, 07:54:40 PM
Can anyone remember the last time we are talking about MBB program in May ? How exciting!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 15, 2017, 08:29:23 PM
Odessa is a very good JUCO program. Robinson looks like a nicely built athletic kid that will work vey well in Calhoun's system.


Also, Geoff Hamperian has joined the team as a walk-on. 6-5 F/G from University School in WV.

Hamperian is a great athlete,it makes me wonder why he's not going the d2 route.  Nice player to go up against in practice.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 15, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Can anyone remember the last time we are talking about MBB program in May ? How exciting!


Never lol
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: IAA Fan on May 16, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
Can anyone remember the last time we are talking about MBB program in May ? How exciting!

When we hired Slocum  ;)
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: OleYSUfan on May 16, 2017, 06:36:08 PM
WOW: so many potential good recruits and now a 3 star prospect!! It appears too good to be true. maybe I am dreaming.

Look out Horizon League; I believe YSU MBB will be at the top in a short time. Looking forward to seeing this team play and also looking for an enhanced schedule.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Wick250 on May 16, 2017, 11:54:44 PM
Except for the YSU team, I watch no college basketball (or pro basketball for that matter.)  I don't know any of the high profile players and can recognize just a few of the famous veteran coaches.  So these comments probably have limited or no validity.  But just from watching our opponents, I see a game where players are excellent long range shooters but lack ball handling skills and passing ability.  And I see few players that are willing to play defense for more than about ten seconds per defensive possession. 

If our kids buy in to Calhoun's system, and the nine newcomers certainly will, we are going to be the team in this league that everybody hates to play.  It will require our opponents to work continuously for forty minutes and probably embarrass themselves with their lack of handling and passing skills.  No more strolling to the hoop uncontested for an easy layup against Slocum's "defense."  No more wearing out our six or seven players because our coach failed to develop or use a bench.  I don't believe that revolutionary change is possible within a program very often, but this time all the ingredients are there to unleash something very special on this now low major league.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 17, 2017, 09:41:23 AM
Wick250, I hope you are right, but in the short term you suffer from unbridled optimism!  Not all the new kids (or old ones) will buy into coach Calhoun’s program.  That is proven with every coach in every sport at every school.  And several of the new kids don’t appear to be physically ready for D1 MBB.  I think we should give coach some time to sort this out, get kids ready to play etc.  Remember it took Pelini, a proven 1A winning head coach, a couple years to get the football team back in the playoffs.
I’m all in with coach C, but he will need some time and patience from the fan base.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 17, 2017, 05:09:19 PM
I too suffer with unbridled optimism.  You can call it euphoric,nuts, or unrealistic .   We are not really sure what these nine newcomers bring to division one basketball.  Can coach Calhoun duplicate his wins at the next level ?
 If you would have told me after the Horizon league semifinal loss that we would bring in a new young coach with a tremendous winning pedigree and he would sign 9 guys this late in the process,I would thought you were dreaming.

I know the new guys were not the highest rated d1 recruits and some might not be ready for this level.  It was still fun to come home and check the web sites to see a new verbal and to watch their game film.  It's a fresh start to what I believe is going be a new era in YSU basketball.   It might not be this coming season but it's going to be real soon.

We have five returning players and one (Morse) is going to one of the all time great Penguin.  Hartfield and Santiago could start for most teams in our league.   I'm confident with what we have returning and what we have coming in we should be competitive.  We know what it's like to finish near the bottom of the Horizon and have for multiple seasons .  We have had a fan from another team post on our board in the past and question whether another lesser league would be better for us.
It's a long way to November and I hope all the new guys stay committed.  I think Calhoun's going to work the community and look for Beeghly to have a different sound this season. 

Maybe I'm getting too hyped.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 18, 2017, 03:03:42 PM
I too suffer with unbridled optimism.  You can call it euphoric,nuts, or unrealistic .   We are not really sure what these nine newcomers bring to division one basketball.  Can coach Calhoun duplicate his wins at the next level ?
 If you would have told me after the Horizon league semifinal loss that we would bring in a new young coach with a tremendous winning pedigree and he would sign 9 guys this late in the process,I would thought you were dreaming.

I know the new guys were not the highest rated d1 recruits and some might not be ready for this level.  It was still fun to come home and check the web sites to see a new verbal and to watch their game film.  It's a fresh start to what I believe is going be a new era in YSU basketball.   It might not be this coming season but it's going to be real soon.

We have five returning players and one (Morse) is going to one of the all time great Penguin.  Hartfield and Santiago could start for most teams in our league.   I'm confident with what we have returning and what we have coming in we should be competitive.  We know what it's like to finish near the bottom of the Horizon and have for multiple seasons .  We have had a fan from another team post on our board in the past and question whether another lesser league would be better for us.
It's a long way to November and I hope all the new guys stay committed.  I think Calhoun's going to work the community and look for Beeghly to have a different sound this season. 

Maybe I'm getting too hyped.  Time will tell.
As I said, I'm 100% bought into Coach Calhoun and his program.  The guy can recruit and the guy can coach.  My only caution is give him a year.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: jbags on May 18, 2017, 07:24:25 PM
The combination of Coach Calhoun and the assistants he brought with him were the keys to this recruiting class..relationships that were already established led to these recruits..these assistants are without a doubt the best we've had since we turned division one...their various backgrounds and contacts allowed us to sign kids that will help immediately and for the long haul also...if you watched the D2 championship game you would've noticed how Calhoun's team played as if their hair was on fire...this thing can honestly be turned around quicker than most of you think...only 5 guys are on the floor instead of 22 that Bo had to recruit....i also love the fact  that Coach doesn't really wish to schedule non D 1's but might be forced to because of Valpo
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 19, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
The combination of Coach Calhoun and the assistants he brought with him were the keys to this recruiting class..relationships that were already established led to these recruits..these assistants are without a doubt the best we've had since we turned division one...their various backgrounds and contacts allowed us to sign kids that will help immediately and for the long haul also...if you watched the D2 championship game you would've noticed how Calhoun's team played as if their hair was on fire...this thing can honestly be turned around quicker than most of you think...only 5 guys are on the floor instead of 22 that Bo had to recruit....i also love the fact  that Coach doesn't really wish to schedule non D 1's but might be forced to because of Valpo
In fairness to Eric Wolford, Pelini had much more in the cupboard than does Calhoun.
Pelini got to the national championship game with a team recruited mostly by Wolford.  (as Tressel won the 1A national championship with a team recruited mostly by John Cooper)  Calhoun isn't going to win a single game with a roster mostly recruited by Slocum 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 19, 2017, 05:03:30 PM
Mike'l Simms 6-5 225 of Cowley CC KS has been offered.  He just finished his freshmen season and led them in scoring as a frosh. I'm guessing that this offer has to be for 2018 a heir apparent type for Cameron Morse.

Video was great (aren't they always).   Saw that he had 45 pts in one game.

His size seems to be a prototype that Calhoun goes after.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 22, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
Love Simms' baby hook shot.  6'5" isn't great height, but that little hook is deadly inside.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 22, 2017, 01:58:03 PM
http://www.tribtoday.com/sports/sport-columns/2017/05/ysu-shows-full-court-press-in-recruiting/

John Vargo  is killing it at the Warren Tribune with off season YSU basketball info.   Vindy,not so much.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Double ET on May 22, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
http://www.tribtoday.com/sports/sport-columns/2017/05/ysu-shows-full-court-press-in-recruiting/

John Vargo  is killing it at the Warren Tribune with off season YSU basketball info.   Vindy,not so much.
I subscribed to both papers. Vargo has the most extensive coverage on MBB. I seems to recall he has expressed his main interests in basketball.

Vindy has better coverage in football. However, Tribune had had good football special articles if star players were from Trumbull county (especially Warren Harding).
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: OleYSUfan on May 22, 2017, 02:55:28 PM
Great article by John Vargo; this puts a little more enthusiasm in the penguin basketball program.

Thanks John for the good and welcomed coverage!!! 
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 23, 2017, 04:00:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emzd7a_WxnY

Little insight on coach Calhoun's press conference.    It's May 23rd and I'm pumped about YSU basketball.

Coach talks about some of the recruits and they'll all be on campus on June 8th.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 23, 2017, 06:40:14 PM
I love this coach. All about the community and getting everyone involved. 100% excitement all the time. About the complete opposite of the former coach.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on May 24, 2017, 09:20:40 AM
Has kind of the same attitude toward the press is the POTUS!  I know that isn't fair, but "come to practice, the door is always open, and we want you to be there and be around these kids" it the way it ought to be.  Guy knows who he is, and what he wants to do, that's for sure.  Don't think I want to participate in any of these practices.  All I hear from him is lifting weights, getting stronger, and running 40 solid minutes!
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 06, 2017, 10:03:22 AM
Deandre Murphy has opened his recruitment back up and will no longer be walking on here.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ucfpengbuck on July 17, 2017, 06:33:16 PM
Coach Calhoun and his staff have been seriously busy with a ton of offers.  Not sure if previous staffs have offered this many.   Check out the link and look at all the players offered.  It's overwhelming.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/youngstown-state
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 17, 2017, 10:44:09 PM
This staff is very active! Like it.
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: go guins on July 18, 2017, 09:53:41 AM
Coach Calhoun and his staff have been seriously busy with a ton of offers.  Not sure if previous staffs have offered this many.   Check out the link and look at all the players offered.  It's overwhelming.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/youngstown-state
If they all accept we'll probably be on NCAA probation for a decade! (I know, I know, just joking)
Title: Re: Basketball Commits
Post by: Svoboda on July 20, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
As an Indiana State fan, I really wanted Naz so congrats on that snag. I think he is gonna be a player.