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Slocum is retiring, word is out. Also, heard that Strollo wants coach with head coaching experience, that is foolish, but whatever. Why exclude all assistants, if that is the way to go, then Jim Tressel would have never been hired.
Strollo is focused on Pat Beilein, son of the successful Michigan head coach. The younger Beilein is at a D-2 school in New York State. I think he would be a long shot, he can do better than YSU, much like Sean Miller did when he interviewed here years ago, and withdrew the next day.
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11 minutes ago
.@21WFMJSports Breaking: YSU Official confirms men's basketball coach Jerry Slocum is retiring
Retiring. The search is on.....
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Now it starts. The "poor me" crowd. We don't have enough money, we don't have good enough seats, we are a football only school, this is bad, that is bad, woe is me! I can hardly wait for football season.
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Thank you Jerry for doing the right thing. Now it is time to find a young enthusiastic Div 1 assistant coach to come in here and turn things around.
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Thank you Jerry for doing the right thing. Now it is time to find a young enthusiastic Div 1 assistant coach to come in here and turn things around.
So a firebrand D2 coach with 2 20 win seasons doesn't deserve an interivew? What is is is time for JT to appoint a search committee (with him on it) to find and hire the best person for the job. Personally I'd love them to hire a top female assistant from a good program. That would immediately raise the profile of YSU MBB and we need that.
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Cleveland State coach Waters announced his retirement today
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Rick McFadden - done deal.
Go Guins
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Rick McFadden - done deal.
Go Guins
Like it.
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Thank you Jerry for doing the right thing. Now it is time to find a young enthusiastic Div 1 assistant coach to come in here and turn things around.
Don't act like Slocum did this for the sake of the team, as if he suddenly came to some realization ...kind of insulting. The man came to a bad situation, that was made worse when we moved JT to AD. He left the program in the best shape that it has ever been in my adult lifetime. The facilities are improved, the athletes are solid in the classroom and on the court; the team has awesome returning talent, with several scholarships open from the start. Any coach who studies should see this.
It will be hard to replace his courtside abilities, his ability to recruit "diamonds in the rough" and his knowledge of the competition ...but I trust the administration to get the right replacement. After validating that the HL is going to be a forever 1-bid conference (both Oakland and Valpo have acknowledged NIT bids) ...I have even less enthusiasm for MBB. On the other hand, maybe it will draw more people to the regular-season games.
Thanks for everything Jerry and you deserve your retirement.
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1 AA you have been watching a different program than me the last 12 years. First, Dan Peters did a much better job than Slocum. One conference tournament semifinal appearance in 12 years, a 5-14 tournament record.
Where do you see 'awesome talent', this team lost 21 games, and ended the regular season a disaster. Yes, the win over Oakland was a great one for this program, but don't let one win blind an entire seasons.
YSU was swept by Detroit! Slocum lost 68% of his games, thats awful. Paid attendance on some nights was less than 1000, the program is irrelevant in our community. He made no connections with our Valley.
But for the sake of your point, if YSU does indeed have 'awesome talent' returning, then how did Slocum lose 21 games with this talent?
Just about every year his teams among the worst defensively in the conference, this year dead last, giving up somewhere around 84 points per game, that is bad coaching!
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1 AA you have been watching a different program than me the last 12 years. First, Dan Peters did a much better job than Slocum. One conference tournament semifinal appearance in 12 years, a 5-14 tournament record.
Where do you see 'awesome talent', this team lost 21 games, and ended the regular season a disaster. Yes, the win over Oakland was a great one for this program, but don't let one win blind an entire seasons.
YSU was swept by Detroit! Slocum lost 68% of his games, thats awful. Paid attendance on some nights was less than 1000, the program is irrelevant in our community. He made no connections with our Valley.
But for the sake of your point, if YSU does indeed have 'awesome talent' returning, then how did Slocum lose 21 games with this talent?
Just about every year his teams among the worst defensively in the conference, this year dead last, giving up somewhere around 84 points per game, that is bad coaching!
For the 1,000th time. I have heard it before just give up. All you want is to have your name and opinion on top of every thread. The man gave us 12-years of his life & there is nothing you or any negative people can say to change that. I thank the man fore his services and will comment on his replacement once I see whom it is. Not overly excited at this point, but that will hopefully change.
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Gave us 12 years of his life? It's called a job. He was employed. Making a living......He gave us nothing. What did he do for me?
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Gave us 12 years of his life? It's called a job. He was employed. Making a living......He gave us nothing. What did he do for me?
I hope yours and my employers feel differently.
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Time to stop the losing and get some fresh new blood in this program! A coach who is excited and passionate about leading this program!
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1 AA you know nothing about me, and I could care less where my name is on your site. We should all be paid and get rewarded for results, not just tenure.
You have yet to show any data or results that indicate their is any benchmark to show his 12 years was a success. Please don't give me abstract, subjective BS; like the program is better off, and his kids graduate. That is garbage. What my employer wants to see is results, and if I don't produce, I will be unemployed, and that is the way it should be. You sound like a liberal heart democrat.
His teams terrible on defense, he lost 68% of his game, 5-14 in the conference tournament. Those are facts.
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Let the speculation begin...As mentioned already Rick McFadden..Pat Beilein...
.and some of my own candidates...Jason Gee...Danny Peters...Marlon Williamson and although he would never leave Walsh ,Jeffy Young..
One more name that would never get a chance bit should get one Mike Rice Jr
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Bashing or praising Slocum is now irrelevant. My attention is only on the search for the new coach. Does anybody know if Strollo will use a search committee or handle the process himself, as he did with John Barnes?
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Thank god. Time to get a new young and motivated coach. Basketball may not be a draw but losing like he did is unacceptable on any level.
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1 AA you know nothing about me, and I could care less where my name is on your site. We should all be paid and get rewarded for results, not just tenure.
You have yet to show any data or results that indicate their is any benchmark to show his 12 years was a success. Please don't give me abstract, subjective BS; like the program is better off, and his kids graduate. That is garbage. What my employer wants to see is results, and if I don't produce, I will be unemployed, and that is the way it should be. You sound like a liberal heart democrat.
His teams terrible on defense, he lost 68% of his game, 5-14 in the conference tournament. Those are facts.
Yes and considering we have never had a winning DI program, those same figures can be taken out of just about any year. Obviously you do not know anything about coaching MBB at YSU. Slocum does, so simply respect it and if you cannot then it is your issue; so why drag it out because you want to bury someone and stomp on their grave? That is simply juvenile & my mother taught me to respect people. You should never be happy you lost a coach: 1. either they were good and wanted out, or they were not good to begin with. Both are a reflection on your program. This is not going to change with the next hire.
I know that people are going to say ...so what if we get a good coach and he leaves ...well I do not want that, I want the same coach until he retires. I want a guy who wants to be here. This is what we lost and people simply cannot see that.
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The problem is nobody takes the YSU job with the idea of retiring there unless they are in their 50's ..and most in their 50's are rebounding from being fired or moving up a division to try their hand at D1...the real bottom line is 2 Sunni g season (barely) in 12 years isnt very good...infact not even mediocre....we need a coach that uses this job as a stepping stone to bigger jobs...thete isn't a thing wrong with that...this university can win with that formula because it has worked at countless places across the country
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Heard Mount Union coach Mike Fuline mentioned as a candidate.
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I see where Cleveland St would to like contact Geno Ford or Chris Jent, and of course we want some D2 or 3 coach with limited or no D1 experience. NICE!!!
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Ok so basically most everyone should be happy.
JS left on his own accord, his decision. 42 years is a long career in coaching so we can all understand that he felt it was time.
I heard that he will be honored at some point, that should satisfy others.
Others wanted a change and now there will be a change.
Time to move on.
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I see where Cleveland St would to like contact Geno Ford or Chris Jent, and of course we want some D2 or 3 coach with limited or no D1 experience. NICE!!!
Not sure about Jent, but we have had great success with former buckeye stars as MBB HC! Worst coach in the history of YSU was former OSU star.
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Lets put some context to the comment about Jim Cleamons...First, he was hired in September right before the season started due to the death Dailey. Second, shortly after, the OVC kicked YSU out, so we had no league--death to recruiting. He was coach for 18 months and left to become an assistant with the Chicago Bulls. I dont know if he would have been good or bad. Worst thing that can be said about him is that he saw what was here, saw what was available and decided to leave. To not consider Jent or someone else because they are an OSU assistant is as silly as excluding anyone who was never a head coach. That being said, Dan Peters was the most successful coach during the past 30 years, and he left because the AD at the time, one Jim Tressel, would not support basketball. Maybe some lessons have been learned.
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Thank you Jerry, and enjoy your retirement.
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Lets put some context to the comment about Jim Cleamons...First, he was hired in September right before the season started due to the death Dailey. Second, shortly after, the OVC kicked YSU out, so we had no league--death to recruiting. He was coach for 18 months and left to become an assistant with the Chicago Bulls. I dont know if he would have been good or bad. Worst thing that can be said about him is that he saw what was here, saw what was available and decided to leave. To not consider Jent or someone else because they are an OSU assistant is as silly as excluding anyone who was never a head coach. That being said, Dan Peters was the most successful coach during the past 30 years, and he left because the AD at the time, one Jim Tressel, would not support basketball. Maybe some lessons have been learned.
When you say "worst coach in the history of YSU" you have no trouble knowing who I am referring to, do you?
My only response is 12-44 and his second year was worse than his first. I loved him as a player, both at OSU and the Cavs, but hated him as a coach. Some guys can only coach, some can only play, some can do both, some neither. Cleamons was a play only guy. Team was better the year before and better the year after. It was Cleamons.
HOWEVER you are right, it is totally unfair to let that influence decision on Jent. Name recognition couldn't hurt recruiting at least initially.
I'm sure there are multiple opinions why Peters left. It can also be noted that Peters has a losing record, while Mike Rice has a winning record and he was here 30 years ago, but most of his coaching was 30-35 years ago I hate to argue. However, I don't give ”best” accolades to a guy with a losing record.