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Title: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 15, 2017, 02:35:21 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 15, 2017, 04:37:00 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 15, 2017, 05:31:57 PM
I thought the same. Unless he doesn't wanna play for dad. Couldn't blame him for that.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: coachtress on January 15, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
What position?  I presume defensive back.  And since when does NDSU recruit from Ohio?
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 15, 2017, 05:52:30 PM
What position?  I presume defensive back.  And since when does NDSU recruit from Ohio?

I would assume he plays safety. I think you know exactly why they offered lol.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on January 16, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
What position?  I presume defensive back.  And since when does NDSU recruit from Ohio?

I would assume he plays safety. I think you know exactly why they offered lol.

That was a first class move on their part.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: guinpen on January 16, 2017, 07:11:06 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?

Why would we offer him? If he wants to play at YSU would he not go for free since his dad is employed by YSU?

If he does not want to play at YSU I would be shocked if he went to a school on our schedule.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on January 17, 2017, 08:04:44 AM
What position?  I presume defensive back.  And since when does NDSU recruit from Ohio?

I would assume he plays safety. I think you know exactly why they offered lol.

Yes to get us talking. If he is good enough to play at our level, he will be here. If he is good enough to play above, he will be somewhere else.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on January 17, 2017, 11:47:56 AM
 Pelini's kid is a D-2 player.  If Bo wasn't his dad and made calls to ND St coaches and Illinois State coaches, they would have no clue who he is.

 Do you really think either of those schools would recruit him if it weren't for his dad?  Ask the Mooney coaches, Patrick is a nice player, but D-2 at best.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: footballfanatic on January 17, 2017, 12:09:33 PM
YSUFANSINCE1990 - Really? He was just offered by Air Force as well!
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: go guins on January 17, 2017, 12:40:20 PM
YSUFANSINCE1990, do you have evidence that Bo called NDSU and ISU and asked them to offer his kid to make him feel good?  If you don't have some evidence, then perhaps an apology would be in order as tampering and scholarship fixing is against NCAA rules, so you are making a pretty serious accusation against YSU and Coach Pelini.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 17, 2017, 01:27:05 PM
Pelini's kid is a D-2 player.  If Bo wasn't his dad and made calls to ND St coaches and Illinois State coaches, they would have no clue who he is.

 Do you really think either of those schools would recruit him if it weren't for his dad?  Ask the Mooney coaches, Patrick is a nice player, but D-2 at best.

If you think Bo called other coaches and talked to them about offering his son, you have no clue whats going on.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: go guins on January 17, 2017, 01:43:39 PM
Pelini's kid is a D-2 player.  If Bo wasn't his dad and made calls to ND St coaches and Illinois State coaches, they would have no clue who he is.

 Do you really think either of those schools would recruit him if it weren't for his dad?  Ask the Mooney coaches, Patrick is a nice player, but D-2 at best.

If you think Bo called other coaches and talked to them about offering his son, you have no clue whats going on.
Chief, I agree with you 100%
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 18, 2017, 04:33:19 PM
Pelini's kid is a D-2 player.  If Bo wasn't his dad and made calls to ND St coaches and Illinois State coaches, they would have no clue who he is.

 Do you really think either of those schools would recruit him if it weren't for his dad?  Ask the Mooney coaches, Patrick is a nice player, but D-2 at best.

This is just a f*cking stupid take at its finest.
no school is going to waste a scholarship just because a random coach call them
you are a true moron.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 18, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?

Why would we offer him? If he wants to play at YSU would he not go for free since his dad is employed by YSU?

If he does not want to play at YSU I would be shocked if he went to a school on our schedule.


you have to be on scholarship to play in games.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on January 18, 2017, 05:08:17 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?

Why would we offer him? If he wants to play at YSU would he not go for free since his dad is employed by YSU?

If he does not want to play at YSU I would be shocked if he went to a school on our schedule.


you have to be on scholarship to play in games.



There is an entire FCS conference that is nonscholly, and some that are partial scholly.

If I understand it correctly, Patrick would automatically have a de facto "scholly" as his father is employed a YSU, but would have to pay student fees.  It wouldn't make sense to offer him a scholly...until after the 2018 season.  :D
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: guinpen on January 18, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?

Why would we offer him? If he wants to play at YSU would he not go for free since his dad is employed by YSU?

If he does not want to play at YSU I would be shocked if he went to a school on our schedule.


you have to be on scholarship to play in games.

Interesting, I wonder why
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 18, 2017, 07:41:06 PM
I would be shocked if Patrick didn't give a verbal to N.D.S.U. very soon just my gut feeling
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 18, 2017, 09:28:50 PM
I would be shocked if Patrick didn't give a verbal to N.D.S.U. very soon just my gut feeling
Can't disagree with this statement.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 18, 2017, 11:26:39 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?

Why would we offer him? If he wants to play at YSU would he not go for free since his dad is employed by YSU?

If he does not want to play at YSU I would be shocked if he went to a school on our schedule.


you have to be on scholarship to play in games.



There is an entire FCS conference that is nonscholly, and some that are partial scholly.

If I understand it correctly, Patrick would automatically have a de facto "scholly" as his father is employed a YSU, but would have to pay student fees.  It wouldn't make sense to offer him a scholly...until after the 2018 season.  :D

Nope has to be an athletic scholarship. The rules obviously apply for those conferences with schools who cant hand out athletic scholarships, but thats not YSU, or ISU or NDSU's case.

He has to be on athletic scholarship to play at YSU, Period.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 18, 2017, 11:27:38 PM
Bo's son Patrick who just finished his senior year at Cardinal Mooney has been offered a football scholly by the enemy, NDSU.... Thoughts ? Haha.


https://twitter.com/ppelini/status/820478656011268096
Good for Patrick..Was also offered by Illinois St..What are we waiting on ?

Why would we offer him? If he wants to play at YSU would he not go for free since his dad is employed by YSU?

If he does not want to play at YSU I would be shocked if he went to a school on our schedule.


you have to be on scholarship to play in games.

Interesting, I wonder why

Because then you could field a football team of 110+ kids and see them compete vs teams who can only get 50+ kids.  Gotta enforce the 63 scholarship rule some how.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on January 19, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
Faculty and staff (along with their immediate families) receive remission, which equates to no class fees and 20% off classroom accessories ...including books. I went to school under this program. They still have books, a smaller portion of their student fees (all general fees) and room/board to pay for. If am not mistaken, because of the number of schools abusing I-AA scholarships (aka Herdgate), the NCAA no longer allows scholarships to be split beyond 2 parts (half class and half room & board). They way to get partial is to live at home and have the school pay for the classes, or be smart enough to get academic scholarship then take your partial for room & board. However, once you are are playing, a player really wants to live on campus and hopes for a full ride. Of course, to truly compete against our MAC brothers, we have to offer full rides.

Although you would be surprised how many IA/FBS schools do not offer as much as we do. The difference being if the FBS school offers as much as single dollar in public scholarship to an athlete (at least in most sports, including football) it counts as a full scholarship.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on January 19, 2017, 01:49:56 PM
My understanding is that we can split 63 scholarship equivalents amongst a maximum roster of 85 players (I think could have as many as 110 players in the spring that eventually needs to be trimmed to 85 by Fall).  I thought there were scenarios where walk-ons could play w/o a scholly, but could be wrong.

I don't know how we could have a scholarship advantage over a MAC (or any FBS) program where there are 85 FCOA for all players.  Eventually we need to offer FCOA (like we do for MBB and WBB) and a growing # of FCS and MVFC programs are.

1AA, I had to pay student fees, only had a tuition break, as a family member was on staff. So what you are describing must be a change since then.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on January 19, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
Are you guys serious?  North Dakota State does not even recruit Ohio, and when they do, completely on their own they recruit Patrick Pelini, who is a marginal FCS player????? 

Same can be said about Illinois State.  Maybe, just maybe they come to NE Ohio, but unlikely.

Not one MAC school even looked at Pelini's kid.  Period.

He is a good kid, and good student, the investment is very little for any school.  He will get academic money.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on January 19, 2017, 04:40:23 PM
I am sure it has probably changed again Nation. I went to YSU in the mid-80's, I usually had to pay the $125 student fees (I know it is more like $750 now), none of the class fees (that was usually $35 - $75 a quarterly hour ...so that was a huge savings). If I used my ID I received 10% off books & supplies ...if I had my father get them for me (Faculty ID) it was 20% off. No discount on amenities such as food, parking, etc. Back then a full time student paid about $750 to $1,000 a quarter to attend YSU. I usually paid about $300 to $350, so I could afford it working only part time. I also went to work on campus, which gave me the ability to register for classes a week before anyone else. That was a lifesaver toward the end of my 4-years when the class selection was small.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on January 19, 2017, 05:33:56 PM
Are you guys serious?  North Dakota State does not even recruit Ohio, and when they do, completely on their own they recruit Patrick Pelini, who is a marginal FCS player????? 

Same can be said about Illinois State.  Maybe, just maybe they come to NE Ohio, but unlikely.

Not one MAC school even looked at Pelini's kid.  Period.

He is a good kid, and good student, the investment is very little for any school.  He will get academic money.

That was a move out of respect.  First class.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: go guins on January 20, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
Are you guys serious?  North Dakota State does not even recruit Ohio, and when they do, completely on their own they recruit Patrick Pelini, who is a marginal FCS player????? 

Same can be said about Illinois State.  Maybe, just maybe they come to NE Ohio, but unlikely.

Not one MAC school even looked at Pelini's kid.  Period.

He is a good kid, and good student, the investment is very little for any school.  He will get academic money.
"He will get academic money"????  We are worried about how Patrick is going to pay for college unless he gets a scholarship of some kind?  Come on, his dad makes $4,000,000 a year!?!?!?!?  I think they can actually afford to pay if he doesn't get a scholarship!
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on January 20, 2017, 09:52:29 AM
Coach McNutt's son plays for YSU.  Although not a HC (really not even an AD), Strollo's son is on the YSU MBB roster.  Choosing your school, and what the best fit is is a complicated one, but IMO it's a statement to bypass YSU for a league opponent. If he does, it's a small issue...but a statement...and not a good one.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on January 20, 2017, 12:56:07 PM
You guys are making too much of this. It is a move to draw attention to Patrick. If other schools see him receive an offer from NDSU ...it may help him get other offers.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on January 20, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
You guys are making too much of this. It is a move to draw attention to Patrick. If other schools see him receive an offer from NDSU ...it may help him get other offers.

This is exactly right.  They were showing respect.  That is way cool by NDSU.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 20, 2017, 09:21:36 PM
Me reading this thread right now:

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Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 21, 2017, 08:52:10 AM
Both Chris Klieman and Brock Spack have a history of recruiting smart football players that are athletes and show versatility at playing different positions. There are tons of players in the MVC that border between the Division 2 and FCS level coming out of high school. Both NDS and Illinois st. have recruiting wars all the time and have a tendency to go after each other's players. Just because patrick didn't have tons of D-2 offers or a single FCS offer before Illinois st. really means nothing. I believe Wells for example had one D-2 offer before ours..the rest is history
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: penguinpower on January 21, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
Both Chris Klieman and Brock Spack have a history of recruiting smart football players that are athletes and show versatility at playing different positions. There are tons of players in the MVC that border between the Division 2 and FCS level coming out of high school. Both NDS and Illinois st. have recruiting wars all the time and have a tendency to go after each other's players. Just because patrick didn't have tons of D-2 offers or a single FCS offer before Illinois st. really means nothing. I believe Wells for example had one D-2 offer before ours..the rest is history


Based on what I saw on film he doesn't have the speed.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 21, 2017, 12:04:21 PM
Both Chris Klieman and Brock Spack have a history of recruiting smart football players that are athletes and show versatility at playing different positions. There are tons of players in the MVC that border between the Division 2 and FCS level coming out of high school. Both NDS and Illinois st. have recruiting wars all the time and have a tendency to go after each other's players. Just because patrick didn't have tons of D-2 offers or a single FCS offer before Illinois st. really means nothing. I believe Wells for example had one D-2 offer before ours..the rest is history


Based on what I saw on film he doesn't have the speed.
That's what I thought about Armand Dellavade at first and he's still one of the smaller and slower LB'S in the conference, but the most instinctive. He probably knows what the offense is going to do before they even do it. Coaches also look at football minds and having Bo as your dad certainly doesn't hurt his cause
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on January 21, 2017, 12:38:48 PM
True Fever ...look at Narduzzi's son. Came here to play for dad, not a big time prospect and became a 3-year all-American, highly successful and sought after coach & now the HC of Pitt.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Penguin Ice on January 21, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
Speaking of Armand. He had surgery to repair a torn Labrum
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: IAA Fan on January 21, 2017, 03:47:00 PM
Speaking of Armand. He had surgery to repair a torn Labrum

Thanks for the info Ice ...sounds scary. Was it shoulder or hip? Any idea how bad?
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: Penguin Ice on January 21, 2017, 04:01:36 PM
Speaking of Armand. He had surgery to repair a torn Labrum

Thanks for the info Ice ...sounds scary. Was it shoulder or hip? Any idea how bad?

Shoulder. Will probably miss the spring
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 21, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
We have good LB depth. Let him rest up.
Title: Re: Patrick Pelini offered by NDSU
Post by: ytowngirl on January 22, 2017, 12:21:53 AM
Speaking of Armand. He had surgery to repair a torn Labrum

Thanks for the info Ice ...sounds scary. Was it shoulder or hip? Any idea how bad?

Shoulder. Will probably miss the spring

Yikes this is what killed my Navy career.  I hope he can heal completely from it.