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Besides playing at Pitt on Sept. 2nd next season and at West Virginia in 2018, does anyone have the remaining 2017 schedule as well as future out of conference scheduling beyond 2017?
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We are opening with Pitt next season. Great! Not a far drive from Youngstown, and tickets should be easy to get.
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We are opening with Pitt next season. Great! Not a far drive from Youngstown, and tickets should be easy to get.
love getting tickets for pitt for $10 on stub hub
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I don't know of games beyond 2018. Strollo was interviewed and said he wanted to keep the $$ game a bus ride, and mentioned Kentucky as a possibility.
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I don't know of games beyond 2018. Strollo was interviewed and said he wanted to keep the $$ game a bus ride, and mentioned Kentucky as a possibility.
One of the smartest things Mr. Strollo said since he's been there fb
Louisville or KY!! I'm in :) 8)
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I think we host Central Connecticut State in 2017 to replace either Duquesne or Bobby Morris.
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We are opening with Pitt next season. Great! Not a far drive from Youngstown, and tickets should be easy to get.
love getting tickets for pitt for $10 on stub hub
Igot our tickets(my twin sister and I) for the YSU-WVU game off of stub hub. I think both our tickets they were pretty cheap. I already told her that I would get Pitt tickets for that game. As I do live in Butler,PA, so it isn't too far of a drive from my house.
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I don't know of games beyond 2018. Strollo was interviewed and said he wanted to keep the $$ game a bus ride, and mentioned Kentucky as a possibility.
By the looks of things there will be no bus ride $$ game in 2019!! Anything close to YSU "bus ride" is already tentatively booked up to include all KY schools. >:(
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Dang big red. I know we are playing Pitt this year (2017) and then WVU in 2018, but I was hoping a close game for 2019 so I could go. I'll still watch it anyway! fb
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YSU needs to connect with someone in the ACC if they are to have 2019 $$$ game within driving distance.
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I don't know of games beyond 2018. Strollo was interviewed and said he wanted to keep the $$ game a bus ride, and mentioned Kentucky as a possibility.
By the looks of things there will be no bus ride $$ game in 2019!! Anything close to YSU "bus ride" is already tentatively booked up to include all KY schools. >:(
Unless....I know that this has been beat to death but Kent is paying >300k....so two MACs could equal one P5 payday...and both would be wins (likely impressive to the playoff selection committee) if Sagarin and Massey mean anything...entire MAC is a busride.
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I don't know of games beyond 2018. Strollo was interviewed and said he wanted to keep the $$ game a bus ride, and mentioned Kentucky as a possibility.
By the looks of things there will be no bus ride $$ game in 2019!! Anything close to YSU "bus ride" is already tentatively booked up to include all KY schools. >:(
Unless....I know that this has been beat to death but Kent is paying >300k....so two MACs could equal one P5 payday...and both would be wins (likely impressive to the playoff selection committee) if Sagarin and Massey mean anything...entire MAC is a busride.
You are correct, it has been beaten to death, time after time after time after time
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It is the arrogance and stupidity of Akron and Kent that prevents those schools from engaging in intelligent ooc scheduling in the early fall. They will not offer home and home games with us, yet they pay out a bunch of money to play weak FCS teams in front of about 2,000 fans in perfect September weather. This should be a "no-brainer" in which all three schools in northeastern Ohio win. Akron and Kent would actually get over 10,000 fans, butts in seats, into their stadiums for ooc games once every two years. YSU would not even need the blood game against a real FBS team. Our schedule could consist of a home tune-up game with the NEC, then Akron and Kent, one at home and one on the road. Six home games and plenty of money from the MAC guarantee and the larger crowd for the MAC home game.
But it will not happen. Kent and Akron cling to the ridiculous principle that they must be equal to Ohio State or Alabama since they are in the same NCAA classification. That makes about as much sense as YSU claiming that they are the equal of Duke because our basketball team is, technically, at the same level.
We are all SECOND TIER programs in football and basketball, regardless of any formal classification. We understand that perfectly well; the delusional MAC schools cannot seem to grasp that irrevocable truth.
Nation, I will tell you straight out. If YSU ever gets on its knees and agrees to play only road football games at MAC schools, I will immediately stop my rather substantial donation to our school. That is how strongly I feel about this issue. I know that I am not alone in that point of view.
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Our Akron friends are having a similar discussion today:
http://zipsnation.org/forums/topic/36026-game-4%E2%80%94appalachian-state-mountaineers/?page=15#comment-270295
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Would we be willing to do 2 road games for 1 home game? Would Akron or Kent? Maybe we should just suck it up and beat them regardless of where the game is at.
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Here's my take on reading all of the posts:
Why would any of the Mac schools in Ohio schedule YSU ?
It's a no win situation for them. If they win, everyone would say well your suppose to win your FBS after all. But if they loose, they loose a lot more than a football game. They could lose potential recruits that would have gone to their school but now would rather play for the FCS school in state.
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Here's my take on reading all of the posts:
Why would any of the Mac schools in Ohio schedule YSU ?
It's a no win situation for them. If they win, everyone would say well your suppose to win your FBS after all. But if they loose, they loose a lot more than a football game. They could lose potential recruits that would have gone to their school but now would rather play for the FCS school in state.
I faintly remember the days when the NCAA seemed to care about its minimum attendance standards for FBS/1-A schools. If they don't enforce that anymore, it really takes away leverage we would have to have them schedule us. I mean an Akron-YSU game at Infocision would probably be one of their best attended games of the season. Back then it could have made the difference when looking at average attendance.
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150913/NEWS/309139997/ncaas-out-of-date-football-attendance-mandate-makes-it-difficult
There's an article discussing the very topic of minimum attendance.
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Here's my take on reading all of the posts:
Why would any of the Mac schools in Ohio schedule YSU ?
It's a no win situation for them. If they win, everyone would say well your suppose to win your FBS after all. But if they loose, they loose a lot more than a football game. They could lose potential recruits that would have gone to their school but now would rather play for the FCS school in state.
I faintly remember the days when the NCAA seemed to care about its minimum attendance standards for FBS/1-A schools. If they don't enforce that anymore, it really takes away leverage we would have to have them schedule us. I mean an Akron-YSU game at Infocision would probably be one of their best attended games of the season. Back then it could have made the difference when looking at average attendance.
I totally agree with you
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Would we be willing to do 2 road games for 1 home game? Would Akron or Kent? Maybe we should just suck it up and beat them regardless of where the game is at.
Allow me to think about it, .............. NO! Heck if/when we ever do a home/home with Akron, The first game is here.
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It is the arrogance and stupidity of Akron and Kent that prevents those schools from engaging in intelligent ooc scheduling in the early fall. They will not offer home and home games with us, yet they pay out a bunch of money to play weak FCS teams in front of about 2,000 fans in perfect September weather. This should be a "no-brainer" in which all three schools in northeastern Ohio win. Akron and Kent would actually get over 10,000 fans, butts in seats, into their stadiums for ooc games once every two years. YSU would not even need the blood game against a real FBS team. Our schedule could consist of a home tune-up game with the NEC, then Akron and Kent, one at home and one on the road. Six home games and plenty of money from the MAC guarantee and the larger crowd for the MAC home game.
But it will not happen. Kent and Akron cling to the ridiculous principle that they must be equal to Ohio State or Alabama since they are in the same NCAA classification. That makes about as much sense as YSU claiming that they are the equal of Duke because our basketball team is, technically, at the same level.
We are all SECOND TIER programs in football and basketball, regardless of any formal classification. We understand that perfectly well; the delusional MAC schools cannot seem to grasp that irrevocable truth.
Nation, I will tell you straight out. If YSU ever gets on its knees and agrees to play only road football games at MAC schools, I will immediately stop my rather substantial donation to our school. That is how strongly I feel about this issue. I know that I am not alone in that point of view.
Well said, I agree
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I am with Wick and Guinpen on this one.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong:
Replace Kennesaw State in this article with YSU ( http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/10/kent-state-alabama-fcs-schools-future-schedules/ ). We would receive $615k/2 years from our closest geographic opponent on our schedule those years. A home and home is an even trade where no $$ change hands, but we make ~$200k/home game. So over the course of two years, wouldn't we lose out on a net of $415k/2 years by not playing at Kent? If we agreed to a similar arrangement with Akron, add $615k/2 years (no need to subtract $200k as P5 games are away) and we'd make $1.03M/2 years....with games fans would care about and we'd expect to win. We'd actually have a true rivalry game again. Imagine the hype.
There's no expectation of a home and homes from NEC teams who play us, who are also FCS, but we expect it from FBS schools? It's inconsistent, stubborn, and makes no sense. When they drop to FCS, and they will, then of course we'd expect a home/home. There's no FBS school we've ever expected a home/home with. That stubbornness is preventing us from having games that would excite fans, and establish YSU as the dominant program in NEO (actually I'd be happy with any MAC opponent, not just the locals). As was said, maybe a 2:1 or 3:1 is a good compromise. I like Wick's idea of our 11 game season OOC games being 2 MAC/1 NEC, although my ideal OOC schedule would be 1 NEC/1 P5/1 MAC. For 12 game seasons, there is no excuse not to include a MAC away game.
Kent was beat by a MEAC school. I agree that it'd be foolish to schedule us, except they'd have their highest paid attendance numbers of the season. NDSU is really struggling to get FBS opponents now. But if they're willing, let's go beat them in their house and take their $$$$.
No matter what happens, the 2-3 OOC NEC/1AAA games need to stop.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong:
Replace Kennesaw State in this article with YSU ( http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/10/kent-state-alabama-fcs-schools-future-schedules/ ). We would receive $615k/2 years from our closest geographic opponent on our schedule those years. A home and home is an even trade where no $$ change hands, but we make ~$200k/home game. So over the course of two years, wouldn't we lose out on a net of $415k/2 years by not playing at Kent? If we agreed to a similar arrangement with Akron, add $615k/2 years (no need to subtract $200k as P5 games are away) and we'd make $1.03M/2 years....with games fans would care about and we'd expect to win. We'd actually have a true rivalry game again. Imagine the hype.
There's no expectation of a home and homes from NEC teams who play us, who are also FCS, but we expect it from FBS schools? It's inconsistent, stubborn, and makes no sense. When they drop to FCS, and they will, then of course we'd expect a home/home. There's no FBS school we've ever expected a home/home with. That stubbornness is preventing us from having games that would excite fans, and establish YSU as the dominant program in NEO (actually I'd be happy with any MAC opponent, not just the locals). As was said, maybe a 2:1 or 3:1 is a good compromise. I like Wick's idea of our 11 game season OOC games being 2 MAC/1 NEC, although my ideal OOC schedule would be 1 NEC/1 P5/1 MAC. For 12 game seasons, there is no excuse not to include a MAC away game.
Kent was beat by a MEAC school. I agree that it'd be foolish to schedule us, except they'd have their highest paid attendance numbers of the season. NDSU is really struggling to get FBS opponents now. But if they're willing, let's go beat them in their house and take their $$$$.
No matter what happens, the 2-3 OOC NEC/1AAA games need to stop.
Very very simple, it is a matter of principal. I have a long memory
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All of the Akron-hate is because Faust chose Akron over YSU after leaving Notre Dame, and after we kicked his a--, he said YSU shouldn't even be on their schedule? Or is their unworthiness of calling themselves FBS?
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All of the Akron-hate is because Faust chose Akron over YSU after leaving Notre Dame, and after we kicked his a--, he said YSU shouldn't even be on their schedule? Or is their unworthiness of calling themselves FBS?
Strike one .......... Strike two ............
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as for a 2019 cash game in bus ride distance, Marshall has an opening. As does Virginia
Would be be willing to do a cash game @ App State ?
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as for a 2019 cash game in bus ride distance, Marshall has an opening. As does Virginia
Would be be willing to do a cash game @ App State ?
1. Virginia
2. Marshall
3. Appy
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I am with Gy=uinpen. The worst part was the accusation of poaching players. I also thin that you guys need to keep the current season in mind ...it is recruiting season. You are a recruit fro outside the area. Do you want a MAC school? Nope. How would you like to be the Cleveland area kid that chose YSU over BG or UT, then we turn around a lose to them?
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Final Sagarin ratings:
67 Youngstown State
138 Akron
153 Kent State
182 Buffalo
Only two MAC teams ranked higher than YSU, both in the West:
21 Western Michigan
52 Toledo
Our 2016 NEC OOC opponents:
163 Duquesne
231 Robert Morris
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
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as for a 2019 cash game in bus ride distance, Marshall has an opening. As does Virginia
Would be be willing to do a cash game @ App State ?
1. Virginia
2. Marshall
3. Appy
Appalachian State has a great campus and stadium environment. I vote yes on that one, same with Marshall.
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Final Sagarin ratings:
67 Youngstown State
138 Akron
153 Kent State
182 Buffalo
Only two MAC teams ranked higher than YSU, both in the West:
21 Western Michigan
52 Toledo
Our 2016 NEC OOC opponents:
163 Duquesne
231 Robert Morris
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
Is this informational or are you trying to make a point? If it's the latter, I do not see it. If it is join the MAC, we have covered this relentlessly. If it is one of your (now 3) continuous trolling bait of scheduling ...With the possible exception of UT, not a single one of those teams (on a regular basis) does in no way, shape or form help us with the play-off. So why not take the home games with RMU or Duquesne? In a normal year, UT would defeat us in 99 out of 100 games played. So one UNI is enough for me. Now if you want to drop one of those two (soon to be FULL scholarship) schools that can bus to Youngstown and schedule our conference bye team ...then you have a point and a conversation.
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Final Sagarin ratings:
67 Youngstown State
138 Akron
153 Kent State
182 Buffalo
Only two MAC teams ranked higher than YSU, both in the West:
21 Western Michigan
52 Toledo
Our 2016 NEC OOC opponents:
163 Duquesne
231 Robert Morris
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
Is this informational or are you trying to make a point? If it's the latter, I do not see it. If it is join the MAC, we have covered this relentlessly. If it is one of your (now 3) continuous trolling bait of scheduling ...With the possible exception of UT, not a single one of those teams (on a regular basis) does in no way, shape or form help us with the play-off. So why not take the home games with RMU or Duquesne? In a normal year, UT would defeat us in 99 out of 100 games played. So one UNI is enough for me. Now if you want to drop one of those two (soon to be FULL scholarship) schools that can bus to Youngstown and schedule our conference bye team ...then you have a point and a conversation.
The Sagarin rankings show that the MAC, especially the MAC East, and even more especially the teams near YSU, are only a little better rated than NEC teams we've played. If you replace a NEC team with a MAC team, the reward would be significant....more fan interest, more revenue for YSU, and more impressive wins for the selection committee to see. That's what we want, right?
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Final Sagarin ratings:
67 Youngstown State
138 Akron
153 Kent State
182 Buffalo
Only two MAC teams ranked higher than YSU, both in the West:
21 Western Michigan
52 Toledo
Our 2016 NEC OOC opponents:
163 Duquesne
231 Robert Morris
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
Is this informational or are you trying to make a point? If it's the latter, I do not see it. If it is join the MAC, we have covered this relentlessly. If it is one of your (now 3) continuous trolling bait of scheduling ...With the possible exception of UT, not a single one of those teams (on a regular basis) does in no way, shape or form help us with the play-off. So why not take the home games with RMU or Duquesne? In a normal year, UT would defeat us in 99 out of 100 games played. So one UNI is enough for me. Now if you want to drop one of those two (soon to be FULL scholarship) schools that can bus to Youngstown and schedule our conference bye team ...then you have a point and a conversation.
The Sagarin rankings show that the MAC, especially the MAC East, and even more especially the teams near YSU, are only a little better rated than NEC teams we've played. If you replace a NEC team with a MAC team, the reward would be significant....more fan interest, more revenue for YSU, and more impressive wins for the selection committee to see. That's what we want, right?
No and no. First of all ...no away game (against any opponent, not even OSU) is more interesting to a real fan, than a home game. secondly, those games got us in the play-off. As to MAC schools, I guess we should look at their ranking before we decide to play?
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No and no. First of all ...no away game (against any opponent, not even OSU) is more interesting to a real fan, than a home game. secondly, those games got us in the play-off. As to MAC schools, I guess we should look at their ranking before we decide to play?
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You would rather watch Duquesne at Stambaugh that be the away team in the horseshoe in Columbus? Seriously?
Not me. I would definitely rather travel to Kent, Akron and Buffalo to see competitive games than watch the nonsense games of Duquesne, Dayton, Valparaiso, Slippery Rock etc. at home.
1-AA, I understand your resentment of KSU and UA, but it does cloud your vision.
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No and no. First of all ...no away game (against any opponent, not even OSU) is more interesting to a real fan, than a home game. secondly, those games got us in the play-off. As to MAC schools, I guess we should look at their ranking before we decide to play?
You would rather watch Duquesne at Stambaugh that be the away team in the horseshoe in Columbus? Seriously?
Not me. I would definitely rather travel to Kent, Akron and Buffalo to see competitive games than watch the nonsense games of Duquesne, Dayton, Valparaiso, Slippery Rock etc. at home.
1-AA, I understand your resentment of KSU and UA, but it does cloud your vision.
For me, I will take a home game any time over any away game. Okay, forget it is close enough to drive to, would you feel the same way? The feeling is not just Akron and Kent ...it is any MAC school. It is the conference that passed the rule.
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No and no. First of all ...no away game (against any opponent, not even OSU) is more interesting to a real fan, than a home game. secondly, those games got us in the play-off. As to MAC schools, I guess we should look at their ranking before we decide to play?
You would rather watch Duquesne at Stambaugh that be the away team in the horseshoe in Columbus? Seriously?
Not me. I would definitely rather travel to Kent, Akron and Buffalo to see competitive games than watch the nonsense games of Duquesne, Dayton, Valparaiso, Slippery Rock etc. at home.
1-AA, I understand your resentment of KSU and UA, but it does cloud your vision.
For me, I will take a home game any time over any away game. Okay, forget it is close enough to drive to, would you feel the same way? The feeling is not just Akron and Kent ...it is any MAC school. It is the conference that passed the rule.
all things equal, definitely home games. but my criteria wasn't "all things equal" but rather completely stacked deck. close enough to drive? check. good competitive game? Check. instead of pushover? check. with my criteria, then I stand by my personal preference.
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I know this isn't the spirit the comments were made in, but I would rather travel to an FCS national championship game (that we are arbitrarily set as the away team for), than go to a home game against any other team.
Again not in the spirit of what was being discussed, but ;D
In terms of the ongoing discussion, my question about scheduling the missed MVFC team is this, would it count in conference standings or be excluded due to it being an "OOC" matchup technically?
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I see JMU came out with their 2017 schedule. Do we have ours out yet?
GO GUINS
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I see JMU came out with their 2017 schedule. Do we have ours out yet?
GO GUINS
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