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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 04:38:34 PM
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Let's talk about the team, the game. Football only. If you do not like the board, post it in the proper board.
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miscues hurt the penguins, if they limit those, its a much much closer game.
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I'm allready looking forward to signing day and spring ball. We have holes to fill just like any other team, but I feel like the pieces are there for another run next year especially on offense. We got beat by a better team today and I'm fine with that
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Anyone know where to find post game press conference?
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I know that there is nothing we cold do, but we really, really missed Ruiz today. We just could not get a lead to eat clock.
I have a question. I do understand that Alessi was running against inferior competition against MSU, but I am wondering why he did not see a few more snaps this year. It seemed like Ruiz and Webb were a perfect combo & I really think McCaster does remarkably well for really being a FB. Just wondering if we are going to need to recruit1, 2, or 3 backs for next year. I know we have 2 red-shirts.
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I was able to find presser on twitter via fcs. Sorry but i dont know how to copy thr link. Anyway, if anyone gets a chance to see it, pay attention to the end when Bo is walking off. He says something to someone but i cant be certain what it is or if he is calling someone out or just talking in general. Sort of looks like he points to someone and says "you're done" ?????
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I was able to find presser on twitter via fcs. Sorry but i dont know how to copy thr link. Anyway, if anyone gets a chance to see it, pay attention to the end when Bo is walking off. He says something to someone but i cant be certain what it is or if he is calling someone out or just talking in general. Sort of looks like he points to someone and says "you're done" ?????
Yes #34 I wondered the same thing. Coach, Wells and Rivers were walking off. I heard "mumble, mumble, mumble ... job coach" come out of the audience ...then Bo said "what", stopped and said a few words that ended in "...your done". He was not happy.
I think that I can copy the whole thing on to the site, but 40 minutes of 45 is JMU. I will see what I can do.
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Well here is a link at least. YSU is first up:
https://www.facebook.com/ncaafcsfootball/videos/593569127504419/
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We made the playoffs for the first time in 10 years. Unseaded, and made it to the championship game, after defeating the #3 and then the #2 seaded teams on the road.
Yes, we played poorly today, but it was a very fun road to get there, and we got two exciting playoff games at home. And YSU football is back on the map. Congrats to JMU, and at the same time congrats to YSU on getting to the championship game.
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If they limit the mistakes they probably don't gift wrap 21 points to them!
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Yes yes turnovers did us in today.
Overall what a great season for our Guins. They took us on amazing journey. I was at the first game in WVU, and my thought was: We would make the playoffs, but we would either lose the first round game, or win one game and be done. Well they made a fool out of me. They just kept winning. We beat two really really good teams on the road(dominated Jacksonville St).
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The most disturbing thing about this game is the happiness and thrill of some to be in second place. This is a game that could have, and should have, been won. The game was lost before we took the field. The problem was not the defense despite the suspensions. Only two teams held JMU to less than 28 points all season....NDSU (27) and Villanova (20). We held JMU to far fewer yards than NDSU did. The offensive stats are misleading as much offensive production was the garbage time TD drive. Like the Wofford game, the anemic and ineffective offense led to the possibility of an early game special teams debacle. leading to another short field for the opponent, and an early opponent lead. Mays performed well in his bizarrely limited role. I've covered the QB issues in detail this season, and won't rehash them here. The special teams in the post-season has been terrible.
The box score does not show the Mays completion...did I hallucinate that play?
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miscues hurt the penguins, if they limit those, its a much much closer game.
I know......I can't believe we did that.
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Well here is a link at least. YSU is first up:
https://www.facebook.com/ncaafcsfootball/videos/593569127504419/
It was very nice of coach Bo to congratulate James Madison on their win and acknowledge them as a great football team. I guess Mike Houston forgot everything YSU has accomplished to get to this game. Bo does point to someone in the media and said your done
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It's the media's job to question, turn over stones, and even piss people off if necessary (it's almost always necessary). The local media is the University's lapdog. Feeble coverage of ticketgate, and almost zero coverage of Slocumgate. IDK the background, but if a member of the media actually did their job.....then kudos to them...and the rest of the local media should rally around them.
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The box score does not show the Mays completion...did I hallucinate that play?
The only one I saw was behind the line. There is no way we could afford Mays to throw in this game. When he is in, they brought in (or over) a DE. Great time to have had Ruiz up-the-middle though.
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The box score does not show the Mays completion...did I hallucinate that play?
The only one I saw was behind the line. There is no way we could afford Mays to throw in this game. When he is in, they brought in (or over) a DE. Great time to have had Ruiz up-the-middle though.
Mays in 2016 is 11-18-1 for a/c/i and has a completion % similar to Wells at 61.1. This is what they did with Davis in 2015. When 2015 Davis or late-season 2016-7 Mays went in, we telegraphed a rushing play. Davis once said he heard the Defenses say out loud, "they're going to run." Similar to having a QB who can't run, you shouldn't have a QB who can't be trusted with the pass....but that's not the case w/ Mays IMO.
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(Penguin Nation) what are you Ricky Bobby, if you don't finish first you are last. No one is happy they lost. The fact is they had a great season.
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(Penguin Nation) what are you Ricky Bobby, if you don't finish first you are last. No one is happy they lost. The fact is they had a great season.
They had the tools to wear their new jewelry to the White House.....and meet Melania.
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It's the media's job to question, turn over stones, and even piss people off if necessary (it's almost always necessary). The local media is the University's lapdog. Feeble coverage of ticketgate, and almost zero coverage of Slocumgate. IDK the background, but if a member of the media actually did their job.....then kudos to them...and the rest of the local media should rally around them.
That's because the local Youngstown media probably doesn't want to step on toes. That's why they are only in Youngstown the bottom barrel of news station areas. They do no investigative reporting like most new stations do.
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The box score does not show the Mays completion...did I hallucinate that play?
The only one I saw was behind the line. There is no way we could afford Mays to throw in this game. When he is in, they brought in (or over) a DE. Great time to have had Ruiz up-the-middle though.
Mays in 2016 is 11-18-1 for a/c/i and has a completion % similar to Wells at 61.1. This is what they did with Davis in 2015. When 2015 Davis or late-season 2016-7 Mays went in, we telegraphed a rushing play. Davis once said he heard the Defenses say out loud, "they're going to run." Similar to having a QB who can't run, you shouldn't have a QB who can't be trusted with the pass....but that's not the case w/ Mays IMO.
I do not think that is the case with Ricky anymore either. Mays is still a few games away from taking the team. Maybe even a full year and the line is not up to the task of a running QB. We have seen this already. It is really an entirely new offense at that point and we will not have as effective of a run game. Nice to talk about though. I like the idea of Wells in 2017, with some increased use of Mays. If there is anything nice about this game is that JMU's balance exposed some things that I think will help us in the post-season and against SDSU to help us take the conference, this includes some weaknesses with Bo (although to his credit he fixed most of them). I am very excited to see how the off-season goes, it it already well into January.
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The box score does not show the Mays completion...did I hallucinate that play?
The only one I saw was behind the line. There is no way we could afford Mays to throw in this game. When he is in, they brought in (or over) a DE. Great time to have had Ruiz up-the-middle though.
Mays in 2016 is 11-18-1 for a/c/i and has a completion % similar to Wells at 61.1. This is what they did with Davis in 2015. When 2015 Davis or late-season 2016-7 Mays went in, we telegraphed a rushing play. Davis once said he heard the Defenses say out loud, "they're going to run." Similar to having a QB who can't run, you shouldn't have a QB who can't be trusted with the pass....but that's not the case w/ Mays IMO.
I do not think that is the case with Ricky anymore either. Mays is still a few games away from taking the team. Maybe even a full year and the line is not up to the task of a running QB. We have seen this already. It is really an entirely new offense at that point and we will not have as effective of a run game. Nice to talk about though. I like the idea of Wells in 2017, with some increased use of Mays. If there is anything nice about this game is that JMU's balance exposed some things that I think will help us in the post-season and against SDSU to help us take the conference, this includes some weaknesses with Bo (although to his credit he fixed most of them). I am very excited to see how the off-season goes, it it already well into January.
It's an achilles heel to lack elusiveness and escapability at QB when you are playing a defense able to penetrate the pocket like NDSU and JMU. It's tough enough to get yardage, let alone overcome consistently negative yardage at the QB spot. I'm not talking about tucking and running every play...just making a gain out of an otherwise busted play. Wells have had modest improvement in that regard in the post-season, especially versus EWU, but it's always going to be a liability. Bo is gone after 2018, but if he's looking at 2019, Mays would be a Senior with a full skill set and years of experience. Mays running a few token plays/game is better than nothing...but I'd seriously consider committing to his future as a Penguin.
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The box score does not show the Mays completion...did I hallucinate that play?
The only one I saw was behind the line. There is no way we could afford Mays to throw in this game. When he is in, they brought in (or over) a DE. Great time to have had Ruiz up-the-middle though.
Mays in 2016 is 11-18-1 for a/c/i and has a completion % similar to Wells at 61.1. This is what they did with Davis in 2015. When 2015 Davis or late-season 2016-7 Mays went in, we telegraphed a rushing play. Davis once said he heard the Defenses say out loud, "they're going to run." Similar to having a QB who can't run, you shouldn't have a QB who can't be trusted with the pass....but that's not the case w/ Mays IMO.
I do not think that is the case with Ricky anymore either. Mays is still a few games away from taking the team. Maybe even a full year and the line is not up to the task of a running QB. We have seen this already. It is really an entirely new offense at that point and we will not have as effective of a run game. Nice to talk about though. I like the idea of Wells in 2017, with some increased use of Mays. If there is anything nice about this game is that JMU's balance exposed some things that I think will help us in the post-season and against SDSU to help us take the conference, this includes some weaknesses with Bo (although to his credit he fixed most of them). I am very excited to see how the off-season goes, it it already well into January.
It's an achilles heal to lack elusiveness and escapability at QB when you are playing a defense able to penetrate the pocket like NDSU and JMU. It's tough enough to get yardage, let alone overcome consistently negative yardage at the QB spot. I'm not talking about tucking and running every play...just making a gain out of an otherwise busted play. Wells have had modest improvement in that regard in the post-season, especially versus EWU, but it's always going to be a liability. Bo is gone after 2018, but if he's looking at 2019, Mays would be a Senior with a full skill set and years of experience. Mays running a few token plays/game is better than nothing...but I'd seriously consider committing to his future as a Penguin.
I will see if I can find the links for coach Carl and coach Shane's interviews from media day. I was either WKBN or WFMJ. They played part of it on the radio pregame as well. Mays taking the team this year was a more than serious thought for Bo and Shane. The decision was made for the seniors to make the push this year. They were very happy that Wells agreed to come back. Carl and Shane are both quite aware of what we are losing and how much rebuilding the team needs. I want the same thing as you on QB, but to me that is the ability to scramble ....not so much designed run plays, but the ability to get more time to read secondary and tertiary passing options. The reason I like Trent is he has the best ability to do this; but he lacks Wells' arm.
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So who's done?
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We were 1 game away from winning it all and let's Trash Wells crap starts again. We didn't lose because of Wells. Even more laughable is using stats that mean nothing. Why don't you b**** about the poor special team play and the offensive line being schooled by the JMU Defensive line. JMU was the better team yesterday. They went after our weakness the secondary with what 3 guys missing. Their QB was good nothing special. This team fought all season and we almost did the impossible. Let's focus on getting back to the playoffs next year. Go Penguins.
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We were 1 game away from winning it all and let's Trash Wells crap starts again. We didn't lose because of Wells. Even more laughable is using stats that mean nothing. Why don't you b**** about the poor special team play and the offensive line being schooled by the JMU Defensive line. JMU was the better team yesterday. They went after our weakness the secondary with what 3 guys missing. Their QB was good nothing special. This team fought all season and we almost did the impossible. Let's focus on getting back to the playoffs next year. Go Penguins.
Could not be said any better. I am more worried about TB. Here are our seniors. Now this does not mean they the player is leaving, but most of these guys are graduating:
Eric Thompson CB
Joshmere Dawson DE
LeRoy Alexander FS
Jamar Pinnock LB
Kenny Bishop CB
Nate Dortch CB
Avery Moss DE
Derek Rivers DE
Jody Webb TB
Jameel Smith SS
Martin Ruiz TB
David Rivers III CB
Jaylin Kelly LB
Brock Eisenhuth OG
Dylan Colucci OT
Jacob Wood TE
Rickey Hagood II DT
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Any word on how many YSU fans were at the game? I never did get a chance to look while the game was going on. Seemed to easily be 4k+ from all the Red/White I saw walking around.
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Does coach Wolford get credit for recruiting most of these guys? Not diminishing Bo's success and how he molded this team to a great season.
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I was at the game and would guess 2,000-2,500 YSU fans. I was also wondering how JMU fans got seats in section 126, which was sold through YSU
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Does coach Wolford get credit for recruiting most of these guys? Not diminishing Bo's success and how he molded this team to a great season.
Good topic. Maybe we should even give it it's own thread? Here are my thoughts:
1. I do think the team over-achieved and this has to go to the current system and players.
2. I am very happy that coach Carm and coach Shane continued recruiting during the gap before Bo's hiring; very under appreciated.
3. On defense I really give all the credit to Bo and especially coach Carl.
Many of these guys are Wolf's, but less than I thought before you mentioned it. Then again, Wolf let his coaches recruit. I suspect Bo is much more hands-on; at least on defense. I also think Bo is really focusing on local product, which will be a long-term benefit to the program.
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It was nice visiting with you guys again this last few weeks. Surprised my login still worked since 2006 :D
I want to compliment you guys on the support you brought. It appeared to me to be around 3,500. You filled in the one quarter pretty well. You fans were very nice. It was more than I was expecting based on what I read on here. I'd guess you may of had an additional 1,000 more if things were handled well.
I guess from your side you'd say if not for the turnovers, and what if you won the TO battle? To me it looked like it was over by early in the 2nd quarter. I'm not sure why we never passed in the second half. Our third TD we took the ball down the field with 3 long passes. I guess Houston felt you could not score on our defense so why take any chances?
I think the game came down to your offense could not do much against our defense. We seemed to be to be a little quicker. I felt your defense played championship caliber, but your offense struggled. Other than one meaningful drive in the second quarter your offense was not much of a threat
You guys traveled a lot through the playoffs, but I think the 3 weeks off would of neutralized that. You were missing more lost due to suspensions. Not sure how much difference that would of made.
We both had great years and no reason to think next year we won't both have the same opportunity. You never know, NDSU may not get back to the NC for awhile. One advantage you have over us is Bo will likely have more longevity at YSU than Mike Houston will at JMU. I'm hoping Mike returns next year, but if we lost what I considered a bad coach last year to Texas State, how does anyone in 1A not take Mike Houston? :P
I have a feeling our two programs should be pretty strong for the near future. Good luck next year, and beat up NDSU enough they don't get all those home playoff games.
I'm sure you guys had a ton of great moments this year getting to the NC, but that catch to beat EW was the play of the playoffs. Truly amazing. I've never seen anything like it and for it to be the final play to go to the championship? Doesn't get much better than that.
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Thanks Dukester, you sound like a class act! Let's enjoy this year and hopefully a better next season!
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Thanks Dukester, I think Huston stays for a while, unless he takes an assistants position. I see him as the kind guy who would rather be a big fish in a smaller sea. That is unless he takes a mid-major program right away. I just don't see that. I mean Tressel moving from I-AA to IA was a very rare thing ...at least at that level. He had other non-coaching qualities that OSU was looking for. he was an AD for 5-years and he was very focused on player education. He had tremendous in-state and Florida recruiting connections. He is an Ohio guy, with 15-years as a head-coach at Youngstown ...not a couple. in the 10-years of the 90's (he was hired at OSU in 1999) YSU had 6 play-off appearances, winning 4 titles. He is also a former OSU assistant.
With the expansion of the play-off in IA/FBS, I do see coaches with play-off experience being sought after though & Huston has it.
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I waited two days to read the messages, and I am pleasantly surprised that the atmosphere is far less toxic than I had expected. Obviously we lost the game during the first eight minutes. And our offensive line got outright dominated all afternoon, something that I did not expect and something that no team can usually overcome.
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I waited two days to read the messages, and I am pleasantly surprised that the atmosphere is far less toxic than I had expected. Obviously we lost the game during the first eight minutes. And our offensive line got outright dominated all afternoon, something that I did not expect and something that no team can usually overcome.
I felt the 3 week layoff hurt us. I also thought that we could have had success up the middle if we gave it some time and remained patient.
My thoughts are that if we don't make mistakes the game become a defensive battle similar to McNeese in 1997. Same type of game to me, except we made so many mistakes. By the way, I think the equipment manager needs a talking to.......where were the grass cleats? I thought that the slipping and sliding, while appearing on be minor, was a major factor for Webb and Wells. Maybe the OL too who knows but it didn't seem to affect them as bad as us. Maybe their equipment manager chose better cleats. It certainly was a factor. Garbage field. Also when the ball bounces off someone's foot and and gets picked, it's not your day
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I waited two days to read the messages, and I am pleasantly surprised that the atmosphere is far less toxic than I had expected. Obviously we lost the game during the first eight minutes. And our offensive line got outright dominated all afternoon, something that I did not expect and something that no team can usually overcome.
I felt the 3 week layoff hurt us. I also thought that we could have had success up the middle if we gave it some time and remained patient.
My thoughts are that if we don't make mistakes the game become a defensive battle similar to McNeely in 1997. Same type of game to me, except we made soany mistakeS. By the way, I think the equipment manager needs a talking to.......where were the grass cleats? I thought that the sliding and sliding, while appearing on be minor, was a major factor for Webb and Wells. Maybe the OL.? Who knows but it didn't seem to affect them as bad as us. Maybe theit equipment manager chose better cleats. It certainly was a factor. Garbage field. Also when the ball bounces off someone's foot and and gets picked, it's not your day
Two awesome new points Power. The turf looked terrible and we had two bounces right into JMU hands. Almost something you would see on a bloopers how. Do you think we could have done more up the middle with Webb and McCaster ....missing Ruiz?
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I was with Penguinpower at the game. I also felt the power game between the tackles would have neutralized their athleticism and speed. I also felt we could have made some plays throwing the ball upfield. It was their for the taking. I felt the layoff hurt us. We lost our edge because of it. We were in fire and those 3 weeks cooled it. Their fans were rude for the most part and that made the game worse. I been to all the Championship games and the Frisco set-up is Mickey Mouse. Playing in a soccer stadium is an insult to the FCS and the facility didn't have a proper scoreboard. The field wasn't covered. No Security . It was a joke. Texas has better HS stadiums than what we had to play in. Anyways that's a different thread.
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I waited two days to read the messages, and I am pleasantly surprised that the atmosphere is far less toxic than I had expected. Obviously we lost the game during the first eight minutes. And our offensive line got outright dominated all afternoon, something that I did not expect and something that no team can usually overcome.
I felt the 3 week layoff hurt us. I also thought that we could have had success up the middle if we gave it some time and remained patient.
My thoughts are that if we don't make mistakes the game become a defensive battle similar to McNeely in 1997. Same type of game to me, except we made soany mistakeS. By the way, I think the equipment manager needs a talking to.......where were the grass cleats? I thought that the sliding and sliding, while appearing on be minor, was a major factor for Webb and Wells. Maybe the OL.? Who knows but it didn't seem to affect them as bad as us. Maybe theit equipment manager chose better cleats. It certainly was a factor. Garbage field. Also when the ball bounces off someone's foot and and gets picked, it's not your day
Two awesome new points Power. The turf looked terrible and we had two bounces right into JMU hands. Almost something you would see on a bloopers how. Do you think we could have done more up the middle with Webb and McCaster ....missing Ruiz?
They were soft in the middle. NDSU ran straight at them and that is how they came back with 17 unanswered points. We didn't stick with it. We decided to throw and run outside on them. I think we should have went to power I and pounded the them in the middle.
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Being down 14 early really hurt the game plan. Also, the first possession of the 2nd half with the INT was a killer.
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Pete on a Stick Thoughts:
Did anyone think playing on grass was an issue? I thought the field was not great. Very thin turf. Not making excuses but I think our timing was off and we were a step off. I know JMU has speed - but not that much more than us. I remember when we used to play teams on grass, they used to practice on the field that is now the WATTS center to get ready. Hard to do in January but I just think it is a different game on grass instead of turf. Does anyone think that the grass had something to do with the bad snaps?
Also...I attended the game...I would say we had 2500-3000 there. 11:00 is a ridiculously stupid time for a game but the NFL owns Sundays and now Saturdays during the playoffs. I agree with the stadium - nice facility but not built for football - scoreboard and replay were pathetic. The PA announcer was obnoxious! "A rookery of Penguins on the tackle???"" WTF was that? Not very professional. I would imagine the NCAA will not allow projectiles (streamers) in the stadium again if JMU makes it. They were throwing them down onto the field at our players and team meetings on the sidelines. Strollo went off on an NCAA official and they brought about 5 security and police over to the area to watch the stands. That was BS.
After watching a replay of the game - several dropped balls early cost us. Wells delivered a strike on a deep ball on a third down right in the hands of Scott ( I think) and it went through the wickets. We missed Ruiz! We missed Alexander! We missed Smith! We missed Patterson! There is no doubt in my mind - JMU does not get those deep balls on us if they are there. Ruiz would have given us the needed inside running game! Patterson was our best WR and PR all year. Selfish!! The wheel route for a TD by JMU tight end would have been covered - our new guys looked confused. Obviously the special teams killed us. There was actually a bad snap on the EP after the first TD - I am not sure how Kennedy even kicked it?? The Oline play was not there. Again..was the grass an issue...seems like they could not get off the ball like they normally do. One more thing...the two times Pelini went crazy is when JMU had 12 players on the field and ran one off while they were in formation. The coaches and players got confused on defensive formations and had to call timeouts...That was BS! That helped get JMU out of the endzone area on that drive.
Overall - it was one of the greatest runs at an NC I have seen by a team. They never quit. They never gave up. That was all Pelini getting the kids to play all 4 quarters and get mentally tougher. I am excited about the future!!
GO GUINS
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Great post and nice seeing you there Stick.
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Pete, you felt the PA announcer was obnoxious huh? I actually found his changing the name of the grouping of penguins getting Abdullah to be quite humorous. Colony, rookery, host, plethora were all words he used. Must have had a thesaurus on him.
I agree with you regarding missing the suspended players. I agree with you regarding the start time being dumb and having 2500 to 3k. I was disappointed about not having a proper football scoreboard. I couldn't even tell except by mental note how many timeouts each team had. Also, the grass definitely seemed to hurt both sides. The grass field looked like it was getting torn up in clumps too by the cleats. and I could see that from 23 rows up!
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Pete, you felt the PA announcer was obnoxious huh? I actually found his changing the name of the grouping of penguins getting Abdullah to be quite humorous. Colony, rookery, host, plethora were all words he used. Must have had a thesaurus on him.
I agree with you regarding missing the suspended players. I agree with you regarding the start time being dumb and having 2500 to 3k. I was disappointed about not having a proper football scoreboard. I couldn't even tell except by mental note how many timeouts each team had. Also, the grass definitely seemed to hurt both sides. The grass field looked like it was getting torn up in clumps too by the cleats. and I could see that from 23 rows up!
I also thought the PA announcer was a tool. He was obnoxious and loved to hear himself talk over the loudspeaker. WTF is happening to football? Half the people are on their phones snap chatting and taking selfies etc. PA announcer used the word matriculation to describe a TDC run my JMU and his use of the word was literally incorrect, but half the dumb ass people didn't know the definition anyway....
.they repeated what he said like 2 year old son. I swear people are getting dumber and dumber.
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I could tell on TV that he was odd & a young bad voice. Sounded like a kid doing HS sports or bad local semi-pro team radio announcer. Kind of a Homer. As if he knows the background of all the players. PA announcers forget that we are looking at the game ... we do not need to be told what we just saw it is not radio. Tell us the essentials ...ball carrier or receiver name, player changes, down and distance of play & remaining in the series. That is about it. On injuries I like to hear who is down, but some teams do not like that; they say it makes more stress on the injured player.
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I got word that theyou had their grass cleats on for the game, but the field had new sod added and the top of the field was frozen. It didn't unthaw until the second half, but it wasn't rooted so it just came up every time they tried to cut. It was a real problem for our athletes
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I will say, I did find the Announcer calling the wrong players out on plays as wrong and unprofessional. He kept calling out offensive players names on defense. Two straight tackles he called out, "tackled by Alvin Bailey." I was like, what?
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I will say, I did find the Announcer calling the wrong players out on plays as wrong and unprofessional. He kept calling out offensive players names on defense. Two straight tackles he called out, "tackled by Alvin Bailey." I was like, what?
The announcers were pretty bad. ESPN's F squad.
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@kevinawarner: YSU-JMU at 1.562M up from 1.4M last year for NDSU-JSU, higher than 12 2016 FBS bowl games
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congrats on a great season guys!
just now coming on here to read this thread. I don't want to get into a what-if contest and go back and forth about specific plays or turnovers, etc. Both teams left plays out there. Both teams were missing key guys both before and lost during the game. That happens. We could go on all day about that. But bottom line is, we won fairly comfortably and most neutrals have said that and would agree with that.
I really think we had the best team in FCS by far this year. Many of us JMU fans felt as the season went on this team was special and we were going to win the title. And after all the heartbreaks in the playoffs in the past we've had, for it to be almost unanimous among all us Dukes fans to think that way, just shows how much we believed in this team and really felt they were loaded and special and destined to win the title. And that's how it played out.
with all that said, about your team, I thought you guys had the best, most physical defense we played all year. Maybe even more so than UNC. you guys hit HARD! Definitely more than NDSU and don't get me started on Soft Houston State. And tackles that most of our guys were breaking all year we couldn't break last weekend. you have a great tackling team. seemed to me like the first guy there was almost always making the play.
I think the difference really came down to our D vs your O. Our D has improved a ton as the year went on and by the end was a major strength of our team. They seemed to take you guys out of what you really wanted to do from a game plan perspective. And then when the score got to 21-0, it really made you turn to page 2.
anyway, great season. sucks to lose, but i'd bet before the season started if you guys were told you'd go to the title game and have such a great year, you probably would have taken it. I'm sure you'll be back.
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congrats on a great season guys!
just now coming on here to read this thread. I don't want to get into a what-if contest and go back and forth about specific plays or turnovers, etc. Both teams left plays out there. Both teams were missing key guys both before and lost during the game. That happens. We could go on all day about that. But bottom line is, we won fairly comfortably and most neutrals have said that and would agree with that.
I really think we had the best team in FCS by far this year. Many of us JMU fans felt as the season went on this team was special and we were going to win the title. And after all the heartbreaks in the playoffs in the past we've had, for it to be almost unanimous among all us Dukes fans to think that way, just shows how much we believed in this team and really felt they were loaded and special and destined to win the title. And that's how it played out.
with all that said, about your team, I thought you guys had the best, most physical defense we played all year. Maybe even more so than UNC. you guys hit HARD! Definitely more than NDSU and don't get me started on Soft Houston State. And tackles that most of our guys were breaking all year we couldn't break last weekend. you have a great tackling team. seemed to me like the first guy there was almost always making the play.
I think the difference really came down to our D vs your O. Our D has improved a ton as the year went on and by the end was a major strength of our team. They seemed to take you guys out of what you really wanted to do from a game plan perspective. And then when the score got to 21-0, it really made you turn to page 2.
anyway, great season. sucks to lose, but i'd bet before the season started if you guys were told you'd go to the title game and have such a great year, you probably would have taken it. I'm sure you'll be back.
Been nice to play the game two weeks earlier when it seemed our offense was in sync. The 20 day lay off didn't seem to help the offense, actually we looked like the NDSU/Indy State game on "O". Not taking anything away from JMU! You all were a force.
Good luck in the future.