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Title: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 11:37:49 AM
well we are 30 minutes away. I think we need to get out early and get a stop and go up by 2 scores.
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Post by: The YO Show on January 07, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
Agree go penguins
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 12:14:57 PM
Boy for all the hype JMU got they seem real overrated. they look slow and un-athletic. 

we should shut down their runnung game with ease especially that RB, beating up on those creampuffs in his career really helps pad those stats.

if Wells can get going, im fully confident we will win with ease.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 12:20:05 PM
looks like the clock struck midnight on Wells.  he had the WR for a easy TD on the left. on the first posession he had a WR across the middle for 15 yards.
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 12:20:43 PM
He was scared to get another block and that is just as good as a block. His worst punt of the year.
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Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 12:21:08 PM
Jesus the special teams have imploded lately.
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 12:23:40 PM
is anyone else tired of arm tackles
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Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
is anyone else tired of arm tackles

Tired of the bias announcers.
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
JMU getting away with holding every single play.
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
is anyone else tired of arm tackles

im tired of a predictable offense that cant score when pressured.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 12:31:18 PM
We can't run the damn ball.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 12:39:34 PM
isnt the punter the holder ? i would tell him to get the f*** out and catch the next plane home at halftime.
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Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
Stoops needs to go.  Special teams this late in the season having so many problems in the playoffs. That goes to coaching.
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 12:42:22 PM
Just sent my resume in for special teams coach. Punter single handedly blowing this game. What a joke!
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 12:48:54 PM
Schuler is a very good punter.
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Post by: supermario21 on January 07, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
On the punt block, it looked like the personal protector on the right side was participating in the mannequin challenge.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
That was a face-mask and celebration ...what kind of officiating is that?
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:00:35 PM
Game is done. Over matched.
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Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
This game is pretty much over.  Good night Guins thanks for not showing up.
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 01:00:54 PM
Nice season folks. Just picking on our secondary as we knew they would
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
1999 all over again.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
Teams play all year on turf and now the championship game is on grass ?... Ok.
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 01:02:56 PM
thanks montomgery.
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:04:55 PM
Blocked punt changed everything
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Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 01:06:07 PM
Teams play all year on turf and now the championship game is on grass ?... Ok.

They are playing at the FC Dallas and they've had a hybrid field the entire time.  Why would that even matter?
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 01:20:49 PM
Nice Job. I think that is the first TD I have seen from Shane.
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
Big 7 points there.
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
Need a defensive stop
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
Very lucky to only be down 14!
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 01:34:14 PM
You know their QB is not that good, but his WR's run such crisp routes and are wide open ... anyone can get the ball to them.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 01:40:47 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.

I feel like monty somehow has a lifetime guaranteed contract with YSU.  The guy is average at best.  And who keeps coaches when someone is fired?
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 01:41:18 PM
Good to get those 7 before the half.  Need to open the 2nd half with a strong drive and 7 points. 
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on January 07, 2017, 01:44:21 PM
Game is done. Over matched.

Wow!
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Post by: guinpen on January 07, 2017, 01:45:36 PM
Teams play all year on turf and now the championship game is on grass ?... Ok.

I agree, not only grass but crappy grass. Shame for both teams
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on January 07, 2017, 01:49:37 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.

Not that I am a huge Monty guy but he is the same OC that got us here,
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 01:51:22 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.

Not that I am a huge Monty guy but he is the same OC that got us here,

He's also the same OC that sucked for almost a decade now.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Penguin Ice on January 07, 2017, 01:51:41 PM
Have a little faith fellas. We get 7 to start the 3rd quarter. It's a whole new ballgame
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 01:52:48 PM
This is a long ass halftime
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 07, 2017, 01:56:46 PM
Special teams have just killed us. Just can't do that against a great team like James Madison and dig yourself a hole. The good news we are only down by two scores and get the ball back. I'm very surprised we have struggled running the ball on first down. That has really hurt our offense
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on January 07, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.

Not that I am a huge Monty guy but he is the same OC that got us here,

He's also the same OC that sucked for almost a decade now.

What can I say, put in your resume.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 01:57:54 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.

Not that I am a huge Monty guy but he is the same OC that got us here,

He's also the same OC that sucked for almost a decade now.

What can I say, put in your resume.

I dont need to put another family out of their home from job loss.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 01:59:18 PM
wtf kind of pass was that
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
That's the game.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 02:02:21 PM
if Bo has any balls he'll pull a Meyer and fire the OC, bring in someone who isn't predictable and can coach, and let it ride.

the Punter has been the 2nd biggest reason we lost. Blocked punt, shanked punt, fumbled the snap, thats about a 2 TD swing.

Not that I am a huge Monty guy but he is the same OC that got us here,

Our offense is boring.  The only reason we got here is our RB's and the few games Wells actually played well.  Now we can't run the ball against JMU.
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:06:46 PM
Refs are a joke
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:08:28 PM
Suspended players missing are really showing today. 1999 all over again.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
Looks like early in the season again. Offense can't get out of its own way. Wells was 4th string for a reason to start the year.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
Monty should be totally ashamed at how piss poor the offense was prepared today
3 weeks and this is the best he can do? get the f*** outta here f***in bum
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 02:16:27 PM
Looks like early in the season again. Offense can't get out of its own way. Wells was 4th string for a reason to start the year.

I'm sure Wells is a great guy and all but his arm is so inaccurate. 
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
What a joke
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:24:57 PM
Hey monty, how about take a shot down field you bum!!! We are down 21, not up 21.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:28:31 PM
Should've known when JMU shut down the run. Monty has to make adjustments and can't. Seen it for how many years now ?
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:30:40 PM
Folding like a cheap suit.
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Post by: Owlguin on January 07, 2017, 02:41:55 PM
Watch that play in slow motion, it was interference. Ball came in just after the defender and the defender never turned around.
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Post by: supermario21 on January 07, 2017, 02:42:12 PM
Game sort of feels like NDSU. Decent amount of chances but just kept shooting self in the foot.
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 02:44:58 PM
Will we break 100 yards?
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Post by: Owlguin on January 07, 2017, 02:45:23 PM
Well, maybe not.
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 02:54:59 PM
1999 all over again. Oh well, onto next year.
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Post by: guinpen on January 07, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
Watch that play in slow motion, it was interference. Ball came in just after the defender and the defender never turned around.

I agree
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Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 07, 2017, 03:08:35 PM
We got beat up front bad today..I give James Madison lots of credit
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Post by: ytownchief22 on January 07, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: YsuPride on January 07, 2017, 03:15:21 PM
Way too many mistakes. Too many turnovers and special teams killed us. Take the turnovers away and a special teams mistakes game is much closer. The first quarter is what killed us. We are not a team that can come back from 21 points. Great season. Let's hope we can continue our playoff run the next couple
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Defense was championship calibur, offensive coaching staff wasn't even DIAA calibur
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 03:37:53 PM
Should've known when JMU shut down the run. Monty has to make adjustments and can't. Seen it for how many years now ?


not once. How convenient that you just ignore lack of execution and playing a better team.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 07, 2017, 03:42:14 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.
We could not run the ball or contain their pass rush Chief. They were the more physical team and deserved this win..to blame Shane or Hunter is just dumb
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Post by: pioneer9 on January 07, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
Honestly didn't have much  to do with Wells... he was who he has been at QB throughout the entire postseason. Just average... Not every team can have a future NFL player in the backfield. This is a little more on our OC and special teams. OC is phenomenal when everything goes as planned but not very good  when he has to jump off script.. And for the love of all things holy, you can do a speed package out of our offensive set... I've played in one and all you do is take out the second look to the sideline... rely on the QB to make some decisions. Comebacks don't happen when you snap the ball at :03 every play.

Special teams is really on the players not executing. Mental Game in that corp. has been crap since the late season missteps.

JMU dominated and they are a more talented team but to say this game was in the bag before it started is bogus and frankly let's us off the hook for the responsibility we had in losing it. If JMU had 3 turnovers, a missed FG and a blocked punt they would have lost too. Would love to see what the game was like with an even turnover margin. But you can't go play a team with more talent AND shoot yourself in the foot and expect to win.

Overall you have to appreciate that they kept playing. There are no moral victories but 28-14 is about as good as we could have hoped for given how things went down. It really was a great season and the Penguins overachieved... don't lose sight of that in the frustration of the loss. Good year. Congrats JMU
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 03:55:39 PM
I like your analysis Pioneer, but the reason we delayed is because we could not find an opening. Just no break. You have to have found something that works before you go up-tempo.
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Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 03:56:14 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 04:04:17 PM
Should've known when JMU shut down the run. Monty has to make adjustments and can't. Seen it for how many years now ?


not once. How convenient that you just ignore lack of execution and playing a better team.

You mean how for many years you've ignored it being offensive coaching and the coordinator?
How many years and year and year and different players before you can admit Monty isn't good? we've had the same issues his entire tenure, its not the players

you should feel like a piece of sh** for always blaming 18-22 year olds for a coaches mistakes and ineptness because thats exactly what you are and always will be
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 04:05:13 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

how can you be such a crybaby over everyone not like a coach, grow the f*** up and be a grown ass man you pansy.

Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: YSU1 on January 07, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
if someone would have said in the middle of the season that YSU would be in the championship game I would have said you are nuts.  they had a great year.

SHAME ON THE SUSPENDED PLAYERS FOR MISSING OUT ON THE EXPERIENCE OF PLAYING IN THE TITLE GAME  .
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 04:11:38 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.

I enjoy winning. Oh and what makes you so certain that he has not been made a better offer? In fact, multiple better offers. Why do people like you hate anyone not named Tressel or Pelini? Both JMU and YSU overachieved this year. Do you not think that there are about 10+ teams that could beat either one of us? NDSU is scratching their heads.
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 04:13:06 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.

I enjoy winning. Oh and what makes you so certain that he has not been made a better offer? In fact, multiple better offers. Why do people like you hate anyone not named Tressel or Pelini? Both JMU and YSU overachieved this year. Do you not think that there are about 10+ teams that could beat either one of us? NDSU is scratching their heads.

Winning isn't because of Montgomery. and no he has not, in fact had any other offers, that comes from a player who just graduated sitting in the room with myself. why do you have such a hard on for a guy who's the worst coach we've ever had? You always make up lies, then cry like a b**** when you are proven wrong.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: YSU FAN#34 on January 07, 2017, 04:15:45 PM
Simply outmatched today by a great team.  PERIOD.  It sucks...but it happens.  Still proud to be a penguin.  Had a great experience with some family and my 11 year old son who wouldn't want to be anywhere else but in Frisco.  Not gonna b**** and point fingers.  It was a GREAT F-ing year and so happy to Get back in the playoffs. 

GO GUINS!!! 
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Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.

I enjoy winning. Oh and what makes you so certain that he has not been made a better offer? In fact, multiple better offers. Why do people like you hate anyone not named Tressel or Pelini? Both JMU and YSU overachieved this year. Do you not think that there are about 10+ teams that could beat either one of us? NDSU is scratching their heads.

Winning isn't because of Montgomery. and no he has not, in fact had any other offers, that comes from a player who just graduated sitting in the room with myself. why do you have such a hard on for a guy who's the worst coach we've ever had? You always make up lies, then cry like a b**** when you are proven wrong.


I am not the one crying like a B right now. Best season in some time and we have many weaknesses to address. Your OC is not one of those.
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Post by: Purple Reign on January 07, 2017, 04:18:12 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.

I enjoy winning. Oh and what makes you so certain that he has not been made a better offer? In fact, multiple better offers. Why do people like you hate anyone not named Tressel or Pelini? Both JMU and YSU overachieved this year. Do you not think that there are about 10+ teams that could beat either one of us? NDSU is scratching their heads.
Why would NDSU be scratching their heads?  We beat them soundly.  Congratulations YSU on a great season!
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.

I enjoy winning. Oh and what makes you so certain that he has not been made a better offer? In fact, multiple better offers. Why do people like you hate anyone not named Tressel or Pelini? Both JMU and YSU overachieved this year. Do you not think that there are about 10+ teams that could beat either one of us? NDSU is scratching their heads.

Winning isn't because of Montgomery. and no he has not, in fact had any other offers, that comes from a player who just graduated sitting in the room with myself. why do you have such a hard on for a guy who's the worst coach we've ever had? You always make up lies, then cry like a b**** when you are proven wrong.


I am not the one crying like a B right now. Best season in some time and we have many weaknesses to address. Your OC is not one of those.


Wrong, someone said Montgomery sucks, so your running to his aide to cry like a b****

this forum is better off without people like you.
I know plenty of former players who want him fired as well.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: YSU1 on January 07, 2017, 04:24:29 PM
can't we all just get along
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Post by: Guinfan1990 on January 07, 2017, 04:25:26 PM
can't we all just get along

Nah, its a forum where youre only allowed to talk about what the admin wants you too.
get a level headed admin and this place would be set.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: YSU1 on January 07, 2017, 04:28:31 PM
well I am going to have a PEPSI and enjoy what we accomplished this year
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on January 07, 2017, 04:57:04 PM
Simply outmatched today by a great team.  PERIOD.  It sucks...but it happens.  Still proud to be a penguin.  Had a great experience with some family and my 11 year old son who wouldn't want to be anywhere else but in Frisco.  Not gonna b**** and point fingers.  It was a GREAT F-ing year and so happy to Get back in the playoffs. 

GO GUINS!!!

Good post, it was a fun ride and JMU was the better team today, nothing to be upset about
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 07, 2017, 05:20:45 PM
Biggest game of the year and Monty and Wells were out schemed and out coached again.


You are so full of crap. Can you not lose like a man?!

Why are you so obsessed with Monty?  We need fresh blood, time to move on from him.  If he was so good he would have been offered a better position a long time ago.

I enjoy winning. Oh and what makes you so certain that he has not been made a better offer? In fact, multiple better offers. Why do people like you hate anyone not named Tressel or Pelini? Both JMU and YSU overachieved this year. Do you not think that there are about 10+ teams that could beat either one of us? NDSU is scratching their heads.

I'm not a lover of Tressel or Pelini.  I doubt he's had better offers.  Anyone would have bolted.  It's like you have some weird obsession with him.  7 years and this is the first year we've made the playoffs.  Not because of him but because of players like Webb and Ruiz who carried this offense.  Also JMU didn't overperform.  They were ranked 4th in the playoffs.  YSU over performed sure.  But that's not on the coaches.  10 teams would not beat JMU.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 07, 2017, 07:32:28 PM
Fist of all, a team over-performing ...by description is players & NOT coaches.

Secondly ... You forget the crap DC's that Wolf had his first 4 years. Everyone loved the choice of Kravitz as he recruited all of the NFL players & he was the worst DC we had in my 20-some odd years of watching Penguin ball. Everyone loved local product Joe Tressey, he was not up to the task, but his ability to run-stop really helped us improve. The promotion of Jamie Bryant was okay, in fact I wish we had him right now instead of Stoops as special teams coordinator, but he really was not a DC. During most all of this time with junk defenses we had all the record numbers that Coach M's offenses were producing, but no consistency in defense. Coach M's numbers remained unnoticed because we could not stop anyone.

For 4 years the man (coach Shane) is the only producer we had ...none of you even cared. Then he has one single (really 1.5 to be fair) mediocre year and suddenly you dislike him. I am too old to be a "what have you done for me lately" thinker; but even if you are are one of those ...the answer is that Montgomery just helped take our team to the national championship game. Then he has to put up with Pelini talking about all the changes that HE made to our offense this year, when it was Pelini's poor offensive concepts that were killing us in the first place & led to our QB's being beat-up.

When we let Montgomery go back to doing what he is good at, we drive to the final winning 7 of 8 games. It is no freak accident that 3 QB's (well two different) went down this year. All the while Montgomery was constantly reinventing our offense to try and please coach P. People like you refuse to give him an ounce of credit. Even when he brings in a true first year QB and wins 1.5 tough games with him. All I heard was ....gee 'Montgomery needs to come down out of his ivory tower and be on the sidelines all the time'. Not even an ounce of respect for changing his coaching style and methods for what he feels is best for Mays and the team. There is simply a hatred (in a few of you) for the man and it is completely unjustified ...in my opinion of course. He is one hell of a recruiter and you claim it is a weakness. He scouts central and Southern Ohio like we have never had before. The fact that you say he does not adjust just shows your lack of knowledge of the game; as he adjusted several times today ...nothing worked. None of you seemed to see the perfect calls down field that were dropped (3 to be exact) that were really our only chances to turn this game around; but Montgomery saw it and made great calls against it to give us an opportunity to turn the tide. They were all dropped balls ...one a TO. 

As I have said many times, I am a smash-mouth guy myself; but we do not have strong enough defenses to play that style of ball ...this is the 2010's ...not the 1990's. My gosh, you can count the number of times Tressel's offenses scored more than 21-points on one hand. That is not going to work today ...Tressel's offenses at OSU did not even resemble those at YSU.

Do we need a more mobile QB, yes ...but not at the expense of any arm. We made the right calls this year with enough time to save our season. Yes, coach Shane has had several "bigger" offers, but he knows YSU pays him very well and he is producing for us. He is very-well paid and has earned every penny. So maybe he knows that tenure here is not worth 1 or 2 years at another school with higher salary. I hope he does stay as you know that he and Bo are highly-prized catches for any team.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 08, 2017, 08:37:23 AM
We ran sideways in this game.  We needed to run up the middle.  They stared to soften there and we had to abandon the run for the pass because of what happened with the turnovers.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 08, 2017, 10:39:33 AM
We ran sideways in this game.  We needed to run up the middle.  They stared to soften there and we had to abandon the run for the pass because of what happened with the turnovers.

Agreed and as much respect as I have for McCaster he is not Martin Ruiz. We knew his loss was going to bite us at some point. Then the passes turned to TO's as well.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 08, 2017, 12:14:53 PM
We ran sideways in this game.  We needed to run up the middle.  They stared to soften there and we had to abandon the run for the pass because of what happened with the turnovers.

Agreed and as much respect as I have for McCaster he is not Martin Ruiz. We knew his loss was going to bite us at some point. Then the passes turned to TO's as well.

McCaster had 2 carries for 9 yards.  Not enough giving him the rock.  But hey when you have an OC who can't make changes to a game plan that's what happens.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 08, 2017, 12:50:19 PM
Could be girl, but I don't think so. To use a dessert analogy, there is nothing I like better than plain chocolate or vanilla ice cream. However, a sugar cone adds just the right touch for me. At YSU's level, we are making a sundae. Good ice cream is a must, but the right toppings are just as important. McCaster is like a true scoop of Handles ...toppings can actually ruin it.

McCaster is a pleasant surprise, but Ruiz is probably the "best tasting" back we have ever had. McCaster's catch was awesome though.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: footballfanatic on January 08, 2017, 08:26:31 PM
Ytown Girl - I can tell you with 100% certainty that Montgomery has had better offers almost every year he has been here. I know his family pretty well and this is a fact. His family loves the area and his oldest son is a freshman on the YSU baseball team. His younger son is a junior in high school and they did not want to move during his high school years unless it was just something amazing. I look for him to be gone for sure after his younger son graduates.
Also - not sure where all the hatred from you towards Montgomery stems from... this offense OVER performed this year. Find me another team in the country that played 4 quarterbacks and went as far as us. We really missed the 4 suspended starters in the JMU game but our players and coaches never quit. For those of you questioning his game time adjustments, I am not sure what else you wanted him to do. Wells threw to 10 different receivers. After it was obvious that the running game was not going to work, the coaches found other ways to get Jody the ball and he had 10 catches himself. What else would you have tried?
Nobody is more upset about not winning that game on Saturday than the people in that locker room but this fan base needs to realize how much this team achieved this year and be proud of them all.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytowngirl on January 08, 2017, 09:17:08 PM
Ytown Girl - I can tell you with 100% certainty that Montgomery has had better offers almost every year he has been here. I know his family pretty well and this is a fact. His family loves the area and his oldest son is a freshman on the YSU baseball team. His younger son is a junior in high school and they did not want to move during his high school years unless it was just something amazing. I look for him to be gone for sure after his younger son graduates.
Also - not sure where all the hatred from you towards Montgomery stems from... this offense OVER performed this year. Find me another team in the country that played 4 quarterbacks and went as far as us. We really missed the 4 suspended starters in the JMU game but our players and coaches never quit. For those of you questioning his game time adjustments, I am not sure what else you wanted him to do. Wells threw to 10 different receivers. After it was obvious that the running game was not going to work, the coaches found other ways to get Jody the ball and he had 10 catches himself. What else would you have tried?
Nobody is more upset about not winning that game on Saturday than the people in that locker room but this fan base needs to realize how much this team achieved this year and be proud of them all.

He's still not a good coach in a lot of peoples opinion.  Sorry but the QB position is a mess and definitely not a strong point with YSU.  I can almost bet Pelini is being told to retain monty for some odd reason.  People seem content with a mediocre OC.  Good for him if he has better offers but it's time for a change.  There are plenty of adjustments he could have made.  Stop forcing Webb.  While he's a great weapon his small size really showed against JMU.  Pound the ball with a bigger running back. 
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: dirtydukes on January 08, 2017, 09:30:42 PM
Boy for all the hype JMU got they seem real overrated. they look slow and un-athletic. 

we should shut down their runnung game with ease especially that RB, beating up on those creampuffs in his career really helps pad those stats.

if Wells can get going, im fully confident we will win with ease.

Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: footballfanatic on January 08, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
Ytown girl ~ your comment about Bo was told to retain him shows just how clueless you really are!!! Do you know Bo Pelini???? Do you honestly think he really cares if someone told him to retain Montgomery?! Bo always has and always will make his own decisions. The people that don't think he is a good coach are a few football board posters that have never coached a down of college football! If Bo Pelini thinks he is good enough to keep then he must be. Again, tell me what you would have done other than "run a bigger back?"  We definitely missed Ruiz in this game but it doesn't matter who you have at RB if the o line is struggling! Again... tell me another team in the country that played 4 QB's and went as far as YSU?
Let's trust Bo with the decisions ~ he seems to know football!
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: SoupCity on January 08, 2017, 11:07:06 PM
Look, add me to the list of "not being a Shane Montgomery fan."  But this particular game had absolutely NOTHING to do with his game plan or whether he failed to adjust.  YSU ran into a BUZZ SAW named James Madison University.  And they are VERY good.

The offensive line was overmatched from the first drive on, special teams was weak again and the secondary was not very good.  People can sit here and talk and b**** about all of this and it really doesn't matter.  They got beat....on Saturday, 6 Jan 2017 they weren't the better team.  Am I disappointed....ABSOLUTELY.  Am I proud...ABSOLUTELY.

I was there, I watched that game live.  I watched that OL walk off the field multiple times with their heads down.  They didn't quit, but knew they were overmatched.  sh** happens, deal with it!!!!
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Penguin Nation on January 09, 2017, 08:56:51 AM
In 2015, YSU had the nations #1 pass D.  Why did we go 5-6?  Offense.  Who's in charge of the offense? That's all that needs to be asked.  The OC manages the offense top down from recruiting to developing players to play calling. 

In the Natty, the shortcomings were again offense, as well as special teams.  Definitely a pattern has formed. That's just the way it is. 

As far as Bo goes, he's not a god, and makes mistakes.

If we want to improve, we should address our shortcomings, which are primarily the offense.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 09, 2017, 09:45:49 AM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ytownchief22 on January 09, 2017, 09:50:43 AM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.

Absolutely. 4 starters being out hurts. 4 of our most important starters at that.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 09, 2017, 10:07:02 AM
 I look at what we could have done to win this game. Well at 100% I think we have a good chance. Ruiz was just too much to overcome. He can get to the next level and then pick up speed. This would have forced JMU's LB's inside and then given us a chance to work in space. We3 had no outside run game & our offense thrives on this.  Also, the line could have better protected Wells, both in general and with a run-game. I am impressed by a couple of those young WR's we have.

On offense JMU players were not what I would call elite ...none of them. However, they work well together. Look at that QB, not to insult the guy as he just whipped us, but was he even in the top half of the QB's we faced this year? (WVU, ILS, SDSU, NDSU, UNI)? Nope. Pregame hype had me scared about that back, well he got his yards, but he was not even averaging 3 yards-per carry after the first 2 drives. However, we were down 14-0 at that point with stupid TO's and a short field. Our defense finally settled in on them. Yet coach Carl brought up our safeties in run support and they simply knew to pick on our terrible secondary, as every balanced (offense) team did all season against us. Our D line has never seemed that bad, I do not understand why we creep up like that. If you look at our losses, we do this in every one of them. JMU did the same thing but they had a secondary. Heck that was the strength of their team

None-the-less. Our inability to run, our miscues on special teams and our secondary all add up to a lopsided game.

Nation, who cares about 2015 at the end of 2016?  Your OC has been here for 8 years, so if you are going to judge him either do it for 2016, or his entire tenure.  In 2015, our pass coverage and D line was terrible & not much better in 2016. Last year Carl dropped back and doubled-up. This year he stacked the front. I do not blame coach Carl or Bo ...in fact I respect the improvements in just 2 years. Yet in 2016, our offense was stellar most games once we settled in on a QB. You are just afraid to say anything negative about a guys named Pelini ....either one of them. We have many shortcomings on defense and in head-coaching ...you can fool some people, but no one that watched the games. Heacock loaded up the front under Tressel, but we had a secondary that could play on an island. Just because Bo says the defense was "okay" in every press conference does not mean it is so. He is covering and it pi**** me off every time he does it. I lose respect for him. People who watch the game also know the shortcomings on offense and special teams. We don't look at the game with the focus of getting rid of a coach. Have you ever once asked why we do not have a special teams coach? Last year we did not even have one and this year we brought over an under-qualified coach just to cover. That is the fault of your Head-coach. You are right about one thing ... coach Bo is no god and needs to stay out of the O and D ...maybe take over as special teams coordinator. Let his OC and DC do their jobs. The season is over and now the coordinators jobs switch over to recruiting.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: DavedS on January 09, 2017, 11:03:15 AM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.

Absolutely. 4 starters being out hurts. 4 of our most important starters at that.
True--Dirtydukes should send them all thank you cards--but I'm sure he's the type that thinks JMU would've still won easily 8)
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Dukester on January 09, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
Boy for all the hype JMU got they seem real overrated. they look slow and un-athletic. 

we should shut down their runnung game with ease especially that RB, beating up on those creampuffs in his career really helps pad those stats.

if Wells can get going, im fully confident we will win with ease.

Hahahahaha

That's funny.  He's probably one of those that chant "over-rated" which really belittles your own team.


Guinfan1990 - you guys had an under rated team.  They played hard through a lot of adversity and had a great year.

Getting to the Championship far exceeded anything either of our teams have done lately. 



Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: dirtydukes on January 09, 2017, 02:01:47 PM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.

Absolutely. 4 starters being out hurts. 4 of our most important starters at that.
True--Dirtydukes should send them all thank you cards--but I'm sure he's the type that thinks JMU would've still won easily 8)

We went up 21-0 and went into protect mode.  We could have beat you all 84-0.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: ysu2000 on January 09, 2017, 02:18:10 PM
Dukester - you seem to be one of the many nice, classy JMU fans that I interacted with in Frisco.  Congratulations , you guys deserved it.

Dirtydukes - I also ran into some classless JMU d***** bags and/or inbred hillbillies.  You certainly seem to fall into one of those categories.  Maybe both.  Go away now
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: DavedS on January 09, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.

Absolutely. 4 starters being out hurts. 4 of our most important starters at that.
True--Dirtydukes should send them all thank you cards--but I'm sure he's the type that thinks JMU would've still won easily 8)
Don't believe coach Houston has a "protect mode" in his playbook--a blind man could see that both teams were playing as hard as they could ???

We went up 21-0 and went into protect mode.  We could have beat you all 84-0.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: Dmorton on January 09, 2017, 04:18:58 PM
Without the fatal turnovers, I'm not sure JMU would have won at all. 
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 09, 2017, 05:46:02 PM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.

Absolutely. 4 starters being out hurts. 4 of our most important starters at that.
True--Dirtydukes should send them all thank you cards--but I'm sure he's the type that thinks JMU would've still won easily 8)

We went up 21-0 and went into protect mode.  We could have beat you all 84-0.


Not true dirty. Take away our 2 miscues and that last drive was for the game (remember we blew the snap on a field goal). Even the one announcer corrected the other noting that JMU brought pressure from the left side twice in the final drive. That was a very hard-fought game. Had YSU been able to turn up to the beginning ...result would have been quite the opposite of what it was. Not to take away from your win and it's dominance; but don't make it more than it is. You went into "big play mode" and it worked. You were lucky as so many times teams get bit on the back side when they do that. Your secondary was awesome and won the game for you. It allowed you to stack the front and we were without our best back. Well I do not want to insult Jody ...we were without one of the two heads of our offensive dragon. YSU is not a big-play team. Our offense is more methodical.
Title: Re: Vs. JMU In Game Thread
Post by: guinpen on January 09, 2017, 06:01:21 PM
At the end of the day missing key players hurt us.  They were too stupid to stay out of trouble and it cost us.

Absolutely. 4 starters being out hurts. 4 of our most important starters at that.
True--Dirtydukes should send them all thank you cards--but I'm sure he's the type that thinks JMU would've still won easily 8)

We went up 21-0 and went into protect mode.  We could have beat you all 84-0.

Thanks for the chuckle dude, you are a funny guy!