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What a game! Offense came through!
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The strength of MVFC over OVC has been shown today. Go Guins and keep this thing going.
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Watching The Citadel and Wolford. Citadel can't throw but look good on the ground. Wolford can't stop run.
Hoping for a home game!
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What a game by Hunter Wells!!!
Go YSU
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Sweet!
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Great win. should be good for recruiting. not a huge crowd for the number 3 seed
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Out physicaled them all game long. Hopefully we can get Squiric and Moss back healthy. Rivers and Mesier were also banged up but they stayed in the game.
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We needed this win for the football program and for the state of Youngstown. Pelini has taken a lot of heat for his sideline demeanor. But what I am seeing is a team that is taken on his persona and passion and work ethic. They play hard and give a 110%. You can't ask for more than that.
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The Citadel beat Samford by 3 points. Wofford lost to Samford. Neither team can pass.
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Congratulations. You have a very good team and I hope you go all the way. I knew your defense would give us trouble, but had no idea that the QB was that good. He made the plays he needed to make. If you have that type of balance every game, I think you can go all the way.
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Wofford and The Citadel.... Snore. zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Woffford up 10-3
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Wofford 17-3
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If Wofford wins is their a chance we get a home game? Just saw on the Wofford site that the game is in Youngstown. :)
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I was there and the temperature is only 54 degrees and it was too cold for them they said their fans don't show if the weather's bad
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Great game! Defense was unreal and Wells did what he had to do - not turn it over. He has a demeanor that is winning us games! Wofford has no idea what is in store for them! Pelini has these guys clicking. Great feeling to be involved with this team!!
GO GUINS!!
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Penguinpower, great job in securing that victory. There is no doubt that your decision to make that drive was the deciding factor. One question. The box score says the attendance was over 18k :P My television screen suggested about 3,000 was more like it. Your eyewitness judgment please.
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Penguinpower, great job in securing that victory. There is no doubt that your decision to make that drive was the deciding factor. One question. The box score says the attendance was over 18k :P My television screen suggested about 3,000 was more like it. Your eyewitness judgment please.
I say they had 3,000 and we had between 150-200. The annouced attendance was in the 18,200 range. I have really gotten to understand southern culture, I was able to understand the reason why their fans didn't show........mainly the weather. Since I have acclimated to the weather down here I wear a jacket if it is below 77 degrees. It was about 52 at game time but it was in the upper 30'so and low 40's all morning and the rain was on the way. Funny thing is that there were people from Youngstown wearing shorts.....I am not kidding. Some of our fans were in disbelief that weather was the major factor and I demonstrated by asking the event staff about the turnout and they said the reason was because it was cold and supposed to rain. Their diehards were disappointed, but I completely understood it. Those Temps were downright February-like.
They have a nice fan base, one of the better ones that I've been around. Their band was simply outstanding. The best I've seen in the FCS. There was a ton of hospitality, it was genuine, not the kind where they say "bless your heart" meaning you are a complete idiot. The campus is small compared to ours and their library is a really nice building that is the tallest building in the area.
It was an excellent game. Our kids were tired. Jax State was extremely athletic and their fans were completely impressed with our team speed. They also lacked discipline, and their fans didn't like that at all. Some of their fans were calling out penalties as we sat among them. It was interesting
By the way, their fans were also calling for the ejection of #17 for targeting too. They like football there just as we do. The most similar fan base to ours in that way among any school I've visited.
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This game played out the way I thought it would. They played man coverage because they felt the strength of their team was in the back end of their defense. Wells picked them apart because play action worked and our receivers were simply faster than their defensive backs. Wells just laid the ball out there for them to catch. I didn't expect that we would be that much faster than them. Their QB was a better running threat than I thought. We simply couldn't stop them at one point in the 3rd quarter. The defense played hard and they left it on the field.
2 things: first, how many positive plays did we have out of the shotgun? I counted ZERO but may have missed one. We are simply better playing under center......period. there was a remarkable difference using play action power offense. That is what we are built for, don't tell me we are not. I hate the stupid read option. We played old school power football and won playing a pro set.
Second, why don't we have any routes where the receivers come back toward the center of the field? The post was open all day and we never had routs coming to the post Why? We always run routes where the player is moving away from the QB. I just don't understand it. Posts and slantsee are easier throws.
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Does anyone know the condition of the injured player that was targeted by the cheap shot? It looked pretty serious.
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What a great morning to be a penguin fan!! I figured we would take what the defense gave us. Obviously their head coach underestimated Wells as a passer and the speed of our receivers. The Samford coach last week thought the exact opposite. Any final 8 team in this bracket has to be respected and we must guard against a letdown after a win of this magnitude and get as healthy as possible. Wofford is down to their 4th quarterback..all were running Qb's that were injured during the course of the season. I'm starting to believe the only team that can beat us is ourselves. How about that huge smile from coach Bo after the game..that doesn't happen to often ☺
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Does anyone know the condition of the injured player that was targeted by the cheap shot? It looked pretty serious.
I read that he was X-rayed and released from the hospital.
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I watched the game via ESPN 3 and I noticed they have 3 levels of loge seating (probably totally filled), then the one end zone seating was about 75% filled. My guess; the actual attendance was somewhere between 7,000 to 9,000.
What ever YSU played a fantastic game against a very good running QB and offence. Way to go YSU!!!
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What a great morning to be a penguin fan!! I figured we would take what the defense gave us. Obviously their head coach underestimated Wells as a passer and the speed of our receivers. The Samford coach last week thought the exact opposite. Any final 8 team in this bracket has to be respected and we must guard against a letdown after a win of this magnitude and get as healthy as possible. Wofford is down to their 4th quarterback..all were running Qb's that were injured during the course of the season. I'm starting to believe the only team that can beat us is ourselves. How about that huge smile from coach Bo after the game..that doesn't happen to often ☺
Spot on point. I came away with the same feeling. The only team that can beat us right now is ourselves.
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Any more info on the injured player?
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The injured player was Johnson Louigene DE - he is in concussion protocol - with him and Moss now questionable we are hurting at the DE position - kind of worried about that with the triple option coming into town.
GO GUINS
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This game played out the way I thought it would. They played man coverage because they felt the strength of their team was in the back end of their defense. Wells picked them apart because play action worked and our receivers were simply faster than their defensive backs. Wells just laid the ball out there for them to catch. I didn't expect that we would be that much faster than them. Their QB was a better running threat than I thought. We simply couldn't stop them at one point in the 3rd quarter. The defense played hard and they left it on the field.
2 things: first, how many positive plays did we have out of the shotgun? I counted ZERO but may have missed one. We are simply better playing under center......period. there was a remarkable difference using play action power offense. That is what we are built for, don't tell me we are not. I hate the stupid read option. We played old school power football and won playing a pro set.
Second, why don't we have any routes where the receivers come back toward the center of the field? The post was open all day and we never had routs coming to the post Why? We always run routes where the player is moving away from the QB. I just don't understand it. Posts and slantsee are easier throws.
Wells didn't throw many over the middle. His worst throw of the day was one he threw right to the MLB in the middle of the field, which he was kind enough to drop. I don't like him throwing over the middle to be honest.
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Since nobody mentioned this, I think it is about time somebody should recognize that Shane Montgomery did an OUTSTANDING game of play calling vs Jax State. Nice run on 1st down and they sneak into the box and BAM 70 yards, and we never trailed from there. 300+ passing and 200+ running and they never knew what was coming next. For the Montgomery haters out there, be fair. This was a great job of play calling and execution by the O!
Way to go Guins!
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Since nobody mentioned this, I think it is about time somebody should recognize that Shane Montgomery did an OUTSTANDING game of play calling vs Jax State. Nice run on 1st down and they sneak into the box and BAM 70 yards, and we never trailed from there. 300+ passing and 200+ running and they never knew what was coming next. For the Montgomery haters out there, be fair. This was a great job of play calling and execution by the O!
Way to go Guins!
I agree 100%, It was great to see him count the number in the box and actually change to successful plays. He ate them up when they dropped the safeties down and played one on one with our outside receivers. Dramatic improvement on the drops as well.
With all those bombs on tape teams have to pick their poison, which is a tremendous difference from how we were when Hunter first came back. What great location on those deep balls.
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HappyPenguin, it is easier throwing to guys that are wide open, and Hunter hit them in stride! Great call, great throw. And with 8-9 guys in the box we still rushed for 200+ yards which says tons about the OL! I was startled to see the stats of Wofford vs Samford. They held Samford to 30 yards rushing....30! We "held" them to 315. This is going to be a tough game, make no mistake.
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HappyPenguin, it is easier throwing to guys that are wide open, and Hunter hit them in stride! Great call, great throw. And with 8-9 guys in the box we still rushed for 200+ yards which says tons about the OL! I was startled to see the stats of Wofford vs Samford. They held Samford to 30 yards rushing....30! We "held" them to 315. This is going to be a tough game, make no mistake.
Just looking at the box score of Samford vs. Wofford, Samford threw on them all day very easily. That's their MO.
Samford QB went a whopping 28 of 32 for 315 with 4 TD and 0 INT. I would not have tried to run it. They tried 22 times for 30 yards so that is some seriously STOUT run D by Wofford. No idea why they kept that up.
Samford got their yards passing on us not rushing. We held their vaunted run game to 24 8) They did throw on us with success too. 372 and 3 TD, no INT. Just looking at the pass numbers I'd say thats a game that team wins, but no balance and a dreadful defense wasted that effort.
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I would stop short of saying this is our best D ever. This is our best pair of DE's ever, but we do lack strength in the middle (which I admit coach Carl's crew has worked on and really improved, as evidenced by our ends and safety's being able to stay back in coverage), we have yet to be able to cover a running QB (3 attempts) and we have limited horizontal speed. Also, the second half of Saturday was the first time that a have seen our secondary coverage turning their heads for the ball.
I would also point out that many of those "passes" by Samford, were simply passes that were well-place to be a couple of inches in front of the LOS. At that point you are at the mercy of the scorer ...does he call it a pass or a run? Many that I saw were really runs. If we do not have DE's blitzing, those passes would have been well behind the LOS and scored as runs.
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I would stop short of saying this is our best D ever. This is our best pair of DE's ever, but we do lack strength in the middle (which I admit coach Carl's crew has worked on and really improved, as evidenced by our ends and safety's being able to stay back in coverage), we have yet to be able to cover a running QB (3 attempts) and we have limited horizontal speed. Also, the second half of Saturday was the first time that a have seen our secondary coverage turning their heads for the ball.
I would also point out that many of those "passes" by Samford, were simply passes that were well-place to be a couple of inches in front of the LOS. At that point you are at the mercy of the scorer ...does he call it a pass or a run? Many that I saw were really runs. If we do not have DE's blitzing, those passes would have been well behind the LOS and scored as runs.
I didn't say it was perfect, but at full strength, I do believe it is our best ever. You accurately point out it is our best pair of DEs and with Lee Wright back (remember my "full strength" qualifier) providing a hugh help at LB, I stand by my statement. Right now we are down at least Thompson, Moss, Longuine, Smith, and Derek Rivers is at least "nicked" as are a bunch of others.
One of the points is none of the past teams were perfect either. Remember, JT let Alcorn pass up and down the field all day, only to tighten as the field shortened, but the stats were off the charts. I have the same sense against both Samford and Jax St. We keep each one dimensional and controlled the game.
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Shout out to Monty for calling a great game. When Jville's safeties would cheat up to stop the run and the corners were one on one, Monty had Wells go deep. The wide receivers were constantly wide open, and Wells got the ball to them most of the time. Great road win.
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Shout out to Monty for calling a great game. When Jville's safeties would cheat up to stop the run and the corners were one on one, Monty had Wells go deep. The wide receivers were constantly wide open, and Wells got the ball to them most of the time. Great road win.
I said something very similar on another thread on this blog. Couldn't agree more. They didn't know what we were going to do from beginning to end of the game. Everybody played well and contributed. Special teams were terrific. Not sure, but I don't think JSU returned a kickoff outside the 20 yard line. Zak looks close to normal too, which can get real important. We NEED some healthy D linemen but otherwise looking good.
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HappyPenguin, it is easier throwing to guys that are wide open, and Hunter hit them in stride! Great call, great throw. And with 8-9 guys in the box we still rushed for 200+ yards which says tons about the OL! I was startled to see the stats of Wofford vs Samford. They held Samford to 30 yards rushing....30! We "held" them to 315. This is going to be a tough game, make no mistake.
Go, are you saying we held Samford to 315 yards rushing? I noticed you said Wofford held Samford to 30 yards rushing. We held Samford to 24 yards rushing... but gave up almost 400 yards passing to Samford.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400926621
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Wonder why the people criticizing Monty haven't at least acknowledged he had a great game plan? I for one will say I thought our offense looked really good and it does speak as to the preparation and offensive gameplan he developed.
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Personally I don't care about any of the statistics other than the final scores.
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Wonder why the people criticizing Monty haven't at least acknowledged he had a great game plan? I for one will say I thought our offense looked really good and it does speak as to the preparation and offensive gameplan he developed.
Do not hold your breath
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Wonder why the people criticizing Monty haven't at least acknowledged he had a great game plan? I for one will say I thought our offense looked really good and it does speak as to the preparation and offensive gameplan he developed.
Do not hold your breath
Because one game doesn't make up for years of ineptitude. They made no adjustmentsense to bring in a high safety and as usual we made no adjustments to our plan. We had a better plan going in because they thought we could not complete a pass. That was one data point. Montgomery has an advantage when we play out of conference competition. They know how to shut us down in the conference.
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I guess I must not have been watching the same YSU team as you Power. Coach Shane adjusts constantly and always has. Why don't you take a look at the last 8-years on NCAA.com or the MVFC site for our offense. Then look at our defensive numbers. They do not lie, nor validate your statement.
Any OOC team has no advantage because they are BOTH playing OOC. Coach Shane had the advantage because he had a better plan and made better adjustments. Also we played well on offense, something that has not been happening consistently over this year and last. JSU had two safeties in the game in the 1st and 3rd quarters. JSU did quite well against us in the 3rd, but coach Shane brought in a TE, pulled Ruiz and let Webb go end-around. Resulted in a FG. Then in the second series he put in Ruiz and Webb, hit Webb in space and got it in the end-zone.
My complaints in the game would be the number of times we had FG's instead of TD's ...3 (there was an additional that was a deliberate choice to kick long & I am not counting that one). Also we could have been up 28-7 by 2-minutes into the second quarter, but we were a bit conservative. That was his call to make. Also when we go up-tempo it really drains our depleted defense. However, Coach M clearly saw this and on the drive after our 3rd-quarter TD (the one that continued into the 4th quarter) and we had some breathing room, he went under center and we consumed over 6-minutes ... the remaining JSU drives were :35, :58 and :20 with 2 INT's and a 5 & out.
One thing that I liked was the way the JSU fans treated coach Bo. They honestly were impressed to see him, reached over the rails to shake his hand and I saw a few holding papers that I thought were asking for autographs. When Bo Saw that poster with "the many faces of Bo" he waved at them and they waved back ...biggest smile that I think I ever saw on Pelini's face. Other teams would have been rude.
You had better worry more about our inability to handle misdirection on defense, as the Terriers run the triple. We need to work on covering the pitch man. Our O line is going to have to get off their blocks quick if we are going to pass. However, I suspect coach M will try to push them and get a middle run game going. Look for Webb and especially Ruiz to be tough against the grain.
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HappyPenguin, it is easier throwing to guys that are wide open, and Hunter hit them in stride! Great call, great throw. And with 8-9 guys in the box we still rushed for 200+ yards which says tons about the OL! I was startled to see the stats of Wofford vs Samford. They held Samford to 30 yards rushing....30! We "held" them to 315. This is going to be a tough game, make no mistake.
Go, are you saying we held Samford to 315 yards rushing? I noticed you said Wofford held Samford to 30 yards rushing. We held Samford to 24 yards rushing... but gave up almost 400 yards passing to Samford.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400926621
SORRY!! I somehow got my schools mixed up between Samford and Jax. Very confusing to read, but sub JSU for Samford and it makes more sense.
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Thanks for visiting JSU! I hate I didn't get to meet anybody but I got there too late to tailgate. That crowd was pretty pathetic. I think it was 12,000 announced. There were probably really about 10k there including the students and the band and the people in the club and suites. It seats 24k and I've only seen it get close to that capacity twice since the expansion. It's normally pretty full during homecoming and band day, but we can't compete with Bama in the postseason.
Y'all handed us a complete butt whupping. JSU obviously wasn't prepared to make any kind of adjustments mid game. They've been used to having teams not being able to move the ball and then just coasting for four quarters. I was really impressed with all facets of your team. I think they've hit their stride and I'm cheering for you guys to go all the way. You guys have the most tolerable fans in the MVFC, by the way.
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Thanks for visiting JSU! I hate I didn't get to meet anybody but I got there too late to tailgate. That crowd was pretty pathetic. I think it was 12,000 announced. There were probably really about 10k there including the students and the band and the people in the club and suites. It seats 24k and I've only seen it get close to that capacity twice since the expansion. It's normally pretty full during homecoming and band day, but we can't compete with Bama in the postseason.
Y'all handed us a complete butt whupping. JSU obviously wasn't prepared to make any kind of adjustments mid game. They've been used to having teams not being able to move the ball and then just coasting for four quarters. I was really impressed with all facets of your team. I think they've hit their stride and I'm cheering for you guys to go all the way. You guys have the most tolerable fans in the MVFC, by the way.
Thanks. Not sure we're the "most tolerable" in the MVFC, but I am sure who the worst, most insufferable fans are. I won't mention NDSU by name, but I'm sure you can guess!
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Thanks for visiting JSU! I hate I didn't get to meet anybody but I got there too late to tailgate. That crowd was pretty pathetic. I think it was 12,000 announced. There were probably really about 10k there including the students and the band and the people in the club and suites. It seats 24k and I've only seen it get close to that capacity twice since the expansion. It's normally pretty full during homecoming and band day, but we can't compete with Bama in the postseason.
Y'all handed us a complete butt whupping. JSU obviously wasn't prepared to make any kind of adjustments mid game. They've been used to having teams not being able to move the ball and then just coasting for four quarters. I was really impressed with all facets of your team. I think they've hit their stride and I'm cheering for you guys to go all the way. You guys have the most tolerable fans in the MVFC, by the way.
Thanks. Not sure we're the "most tolerable" in the MVFC, but I am sure who the worst, most insufferable fans are. I won't mention NDSU by name, but I'm sure you can guess!
It is SDSU because they have an inferiority complex that goes with them. There are just less of them.
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Okay we are forgetting ourselves here. Our Panther fiends can be outright insufferable when they are riding hot ...many of them even when they are cold. They have turned things around now and next year will be the cockiest of the bunch ...LOL. However, when you (YSU) are 2-11 against a team (UNI) in the past 13-years ...they have a rite, almost a requirement, to be that way.
I think we have always been humble because all of our first 5 coaches were that way. They were able to channel emotions into playing on the field. Wolf was the first outward personality. Also in our glory decade of the 90's we lost the tough regular season games ... more often than not ...so we road into the post season as very low seeds & an underdog. However, Tressel and Heacock seemed to have an unbelievable knack to reinvent themselves in the play-off. The Pelini's and Montgomery seem to have inherited that same gene. I am just beside myself (with happiness) when I watch this team over the past 4-weeks.