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Title: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: penguinpower on September 11, 2016, 03:30:08 PM
I have been reading a lot from Trib Today and I really like the in depth coverage they are doing on YSU.  There are several articles on WVU and they aren't as superficial as taking information from a press conference because there is some speculation in the articles that makes them interesting.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 11, 2016, 03:54:44 PM
Trent impresses me.  He's a playmaker and fun to watch. I think he could go down as a legend like Jaws, Stoudt, Isaac, Brungard....I would have no problem with him as a starter.

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/682055/YSU-s-quarterback-controversy-may-resume.html?nav=5414
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 11, 2016, 04:30:00 PM
Trent impresses me.  He's a playmaker and fun to watch. I think he could go down as a legend like Jaws, Stoudt, Isaac, Brungard....I would have no problem with him as a starter.

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/682055/YSU-s-quarterback-controversy-may-resume.html?nav=5414

A legend ? Jesus. Relax! Played vs subs on a WVU defense....
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 11, 2016, 04:36:43 PM
Trent impresses me.  He's a playmaker and fun to watch. I think he could go down as a legend like Jaws, Stoudt, Isaac, Brungard....I would have no problem with him as a starter.

http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/682055/YSU-s-quarterback-controversy-may-resume.html?nav=5414

A legend ? Jesus. Relax! Played vs subs on a WVU defense....

He's got the X factor.  You'll see.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 11, 2016, 06:28:42 PM
The last thing this teams needs is another quarterback controversy after week two when Ricky just earned it in camp..I understand this came from the Tribune, but Ricky should be the guy going forward in conference play..then again Bo is unpredictable at times and nothing would surprise me
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: IAA Fan on September 11, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
Montgomery would make any call in that area. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. I have some serious questions about Ricky's ability to look off targets and put some accurate power in his pass, but then again this is only his second game. Trent may be the guy; but I tell you, that is not the first INT he has thrown. Let the staff do their jobs. You have to admit, with improvement in special teams, there is reason to grow more and more confident about all 3 of these coordinators.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: penguinpower on September 11, 2016, 08:07:28 PM
Montgomery would make any call in that area. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. I have some serious questions about Ricky's ability to look off targets and put some accurate power in his pass, but then again this is only his second game. Trent may be the guy; but I tell you, that is not the first INT he has thrown. Let the staff do their jobs. You have to admit, with improvement in special teams, there is reason to grow more and more confident about all 3 of these coordinators.

I don't have much confidence in their abilities after Pelini said we need to coach better, there were ZERO half time adjustments, and the kids said they followed the game plan.  Looks like it was a half assed game plan if you ask me.  We never adjusted when they went cover 3 and as a result the offense stalled in Q3 and stayed that way until they put in their backups.  That was as poorly coached on offense and defense as I've seen in some time.  Certainly doesn't give me hope.

I say that Hosick is probably better as he has more zip on the ball, but he's probably still trying to learn the offense and playbook.  I will say it should be easy for him to do because we ran only about 6 different plays.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 11, 2016, 08:32:52 PM
We are talking about Montgomery here. He gets out coached in every single big game. No adjustments.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 11, 2016, 08:57:39 PM
Montgomery doesn't have the power and say he did when Wolf was here and Bo is much more involved with the offense this year then last. I to was upset with the lack of adjustment's by the staff. West Virginia made them and the depth issues and weather can't be all to blame for the poor second half Bo even said that himself. To be tied at half after giving up 329 yards of offense to W.V. is really remarkable when you think of it. The coaches in the Missouri our great at the game of chess we need to be to!!
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: go guins on September 12, 2016, 09:37:08 AM
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A legend ? Jesus. Relax! Played vs subs on a WVU defense....
I was thinking the same thing! IF and it's a big IF, he lead us to a come from behind victory, maybe, but he threw an INT not a couple TD's!  That being said, he did look good.  Posed and agressive. 
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 12, 2016, 12:01:02 PM
you Trent deniers will be the first ones calling for his HOF induction.  :D  Certainly we'll see him play next week against RMHS, but even Justin Beiber would shine as our QB next week.  The USD game, IMO, will be where we play both and decide who will start thereafter.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: robmat2571 on September 12, 2016, 12:15:35 PM
Bobby Mo is really bad this year.  They scored the first time the touched the ball this year and THAT'S IT!  It should be a good week to get some backups in the game... try some new things... and get totally healthy.  I had heard Ricky Davis got banged up a bit at WVU.  Anybody else hear that or can confirm.  He needs to be healthy going into USD game.  I bet we see Hunter against Bobby Mo if he is healthy... heck maybe even Nathan Mays.  We can hope... right?  #goguins
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 12, 2016, 12:33:59 PM
Ruiz was re-injured during the RMU game last year, and he wasn't the same the rest of the season. If Ricky is still hurt Saturday, no way he should take snaps.  Let Trent start, and when the lead allows, let Nathan have some fun.  There is no utility of having Wells take snaps unless Nathan bombs....against RMU....which would be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 12, 2016, 12:41:29 PM
It sounds like Ricky sustained bruised ribs in the game. I didn't watch the game just listened to it. I have know idea how many subs were in the game when Hosick took the field. W.V. I'm sure was laid back just wanting to run clock in that stage of the game and keep everything in front of them. My biggest question is when did Ricky's injury occur and what changed with him and the offense from the first half to the third quarter. If this staff can't make a decision on just one quarterback for the S.D. game at this stage of the season then we have problems
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 12, 2016, 12:58:01 PM
Ricky did hurt his ribs on a shot early in the game.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 12, 2016, 01:30:40 PM
Ricky did hurt his ribs on a shot early in the game.
That must have been the one play where he tried to leap the one defender near the goal line and got hit by another defender. I watch a highlight of that it was a really hard shot. Ribs do have tendency to tighten up after the initial blow and become more painful. It can really affect your throwing motion
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: Double ET on September 12, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
I watched the game on Root TV. I did not have problems when Davis ran with the ball if the receivers were covered and the play was breaking down that he had to scramble. My problem was with too many designed QB running play which would get the QB injured easily.

After the half time, Davis could not move the ball. It was probably due to their half time adjustments (or our failure to do so). Hosick did a pretty good job against their backups. But, we were playing with some of our backups also.

We just did not have the CB fast enough to cover their deep routes. It did not help when most of the time our CBs did not turn around to locate the ball.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 12, 2016, 02:29:48 PM
I agree Double ET too many designed Qb runs. I gurantee you that will not work against Illinois St. or Northern Iowa because their defenses are just to good and they will have us figured out to a T by then. Ricky or Trent will have to throw from the pocket..Not having a bigger back really hurts this offense
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2016, 03:44:30 PM
I am not certain I completely agree Fever and ET. We just stuffed ILS last year with their drop-back passer (and he even had some designed runs), but the 3rd-series I watched a mobile QB rip us apart and a designed QB run option was in every play. You have got to draw the defenses in or out. Running the ball is a very good option. We did not have 3 of our backs, two out and one with what looks like career long injuries. Martin is hurt and as much as I love Jody, he does nothing without Ruiz making defenses set. Without that Webb is not going to see any open-space.

As to our halftime adjustments, the mere fact that Hosic came in and had success shows it was part of our game plan and we were more than solid on O. When you have 3 injured backs, there is not much you can do to take the pressure off of the QB ...just let him run.

Did either of you hear the WVU HC after the game? The flaming hot D-coordinator?

HC: "We did not do a very good job getting off the field in the second half, especially the 4th quarter".

DC:  You decide if Montgomery did not give him fits.



The Montgomery haters on this board think that you come out in the second half and rewrite your playbook, which is far from the truth. These are college kids, not NFL vets. Yet this game saw so much change at halftime and it sounds like no one on this board saw any of it. What about all of the during game changes. Even Ricky said he had to look to the side before every snap. Do you think that Hosick was going to stand on the sidelines the whole game? I thought we left Ricky in one too many series, but that was about it. You go into the lock-room tied with WVU; just how much do you want to change? Same thing with the xDSU's and ILS.


You watch Carl and BO completely sellout to the run but "Monty sucks". Say there were 4 passes in excess of 50 yards against us ...3 went into the end-zone and other down to the 1.5 yard line, so wvu needed and extra play to get it in there. Say take off those 28-points and what is your score?
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: penguinpower on September 12, 2016, 04:43:05 PM
I am not certain I completely agree Fever and ET. We just stuffed ILS last year with their drop-back passer (and he even had some designed runs), but the 3rd-series I watched a mobile QB rip us apart and a designed QB run option was in every play. You have got to draw the defenses in or out. Running the ball is a very good option. We did not have 3 of our backs, two out and one with what looks like career long injuries. Martin is hurt and as much as I love Jody, he does nothing without Ruiz making defenses set. Without that Webb is not going to see any open-space.

As to our halftime adjustments, the mere fact that Hosic came in and had success shows it was part of our game plan and we were more than solid on O. When you have 3 injured backs, there is not much you can do to take the pressure off of the QB ...just let him run.

Did either of you hear the WVU HC after the game? The flaming hot D-coordinator?

HC: "We did not do a very good job getting off the field in the second half, especially the 4th quarter".

DC:  You decide if Montgomery did not give him fits.

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The Montgomery haters on this board think that you come out in the second half and rewrite your playbook, which is far from the truth. These are college kids, not NFL vets. Yet this game saw so much change at halftime and it sounds like no one on this board saw any of it. What about all of the during game changes. Even Ricky said he had to look to the side before every snap. Do you think that Hosick was going to stand on the sidelines the whole game? I thought we left Ricky in one too many series, but that was about it. You go into the lock-room tied with WVU; just how much do you want to change? Same thing with the xDSU's and ILS.


You watch Carl and BO completely sellout to the run but "Monty sucks". Say there were 4 passes in excess of 50 yards against us ...3 went into the end-zone and other down to the 1.5 yard line, so wvu needed and extra play to get it in there. Say take off those 28-points and what is your score?


Keep smoking your crack pipe.  The QB is injured because we ran him (and he wasn't touched in the backfield) and we made no changes to receiver routes or running plays when they went from a cover 0 to cover 3.  No adjustments can be done?  Even Pelini was said they had to do a better job coaching.  It was pretty obvious to me.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2016, 04:45:25 PM
Bull crap, we got a TD pass and a long drive off a drop because the stayed in cover zero. Who called those BO? They never went cover 3 the first 2 series against us. As for the QB getting hurt with the run ...I could not agree more.  BTW when did I say "no" changes could be made and we could not improve? Monty does not "walk on water" but he is a damn fine OC. I have not seen one better at Stambaugh Stadium.

His game plan Saturday was to hold on to the ball as long as possible and try to execute. It worked very well and you have to be impressed with both Davis and Hosick for showing the poise in command.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2016, 06:00:21 PM
I also might remind you of the nice slant pass calls off the right side to compensate for the WVU defenses; which really led to that nice wheel route for a TD. Again Baily ...you are going to see a flag come League play so let's cut out the gestures.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: guinpen on September 12, 2016, 08:02:16 PM
I recall the tv guys commenting at halftime that Shane was calling a good game, seems someone noticed.
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: ScarletRook on September 12, 2016, 08:46:37 PM
After watching the game a second time, I don't think our receivers ran very sharp routes with the exception of the TE's.  Not sure any of the QB's could overcome that.  Ricky had time to throw, but they kept a spy on him to cover the run.
Any word on Hunter's shoulder or Brock's foot?
Title: Re: Trib Today YSU Coverage
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 12, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Brock wont be back until after the bye week.