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Title: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nick on August 18, 2016, 12:14:34 PM
I've worked at Duquesne for 16 years and in the past I always stated that YSU should absolutely blow out Duquesne.  This year Duquesne is extremely confident and football publications are giving them high marks.  Last year in the 1st round of the playoffs Duquesne gave W&M a good game before losing.  No one on this board is talking about this game and I fear YSU will be looking at WVU and overlooking Duquesne.  Trust me Duquesne has this game circled on the calendar and cannot wait to play YSU.   
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on August 18, 2016, 12:36:46 PM
There is zero excuse to not win this convincingly by at least three scores.  There is a long week prior to WVU because of the Thursday Duquesne game, and hopefully lessons were learned from the RMU debacle.

That was an impressive performance against W&M but the CAA is not what it used to be. Massey ranks the CAA 6th in FCS conference strength....just above the Patriot.   
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: The YO Show on August 18, 2016, 01:52:24 PM
I'm sure Duquense does have this game circled. Still, would be really upset if the coaches and players don't come out prepared for them given this is the season opener. I believe YSU will win by double digits at least. Although, I am concerned about how our offense looks with the current QB debacle.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 18, 2016, 02:49:57 PM
Who knows what could happen, especially with our offense situation but I'm confident in saying YSU wins by at least 2 TD's.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: go guins on August 18, 2016, 04:04:17 PM
I am concerned about how our offense looks with the current QB debacle.

What debacle?  According to Webster, a debacle is defined as "a great disaster or complete failure".  Yes there is some healthy competitition, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as a debacle! 
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on August 18, 2016, 04:20:03 PM
I am concerned about how our offense looks with the current QB debacle.

What debacle?  According to Webster, a debacle is defined as "a great disaster or complete failure".  Yes there is some healthy competitition, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as a debacle!

Maybe the debacle is (again) having a QB who is sometimes mistaken for a statue except when he does a turf dive when he hears footsteps? :)
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Wick250 on August 18, 2016, 04:35:13 PM
The FCS landscape in the east has changed in recent years as the NEC has added scholarships and the CAA has somewhat faded.  Duquesne is a worthy opponent; definitely the equivalent of a middle-pack CAA program.  They have a four-year starter at quarterback and a linebacker who is getting some pre-season All-American attention.  Can they match up with us at every position?  No.  If we play with intensity, we win rather easily.  If we don't heed Penguin Nick's warning, the word "debacle" will be applied to something other than a quarterback situation.

I agree with go guins, the quarterback competition is far from a debacle at the moment.  It is a good thing, and the survivor will have earned the respect of his teammates.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: The YO Show on August 18, 2016, 05:17:49 PM
Go guins, you are correct. My choice of words there was poor, and I ultimately think we will be stronger offensively, based on this competition.

I will say while I think we will win the game against Duquesne convincingly, based on recent camp reports we will not have a starting qb decided until the first game. Most qbs are better off if they are allowed to get into a rythm. Ultimately, if the starting qb is just getting snaps prior to the first game, there may be more growing pains offensively in the first game than usual.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Wick250 on August 18, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
Yo, look for the exact opposite to transpire.  The starting quarterback will be expected to perform at a very high level....immediately....no excuses.  If he fails to meet those expectations, he will no longer be the starting quarterback by the second half of the Duquesne game.  There will be enormous pressure.  It might be unfair to the kid.  But that is how it will be. 
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: IAA Fan on August 18, 2016, 07:32:30 PM
Good reminder of reality Nick. We needs to keep our heads together and play game-by-game.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on August 22, 2016, 11:03:24 AM
According to this, YSU will play Duquesne twice this year. :D

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/2016-bracketology-1-0/
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on August 31, 2016, 01:53:39 PM
hype vid:

https://twitter.com/YoungstownStFB/status/771007927092125696
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: penguinpower on August 31, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
The team is irked that Duquesne made the playoffs last year.  They are going to punish them
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: go guins on August 31, 2016, 02:27:42 PM
I am concerned about how our offense looks with the current QB debacle.

What debacle?  According to Webster, a debacle is defined as "a great disaster or complete failure".  Yes there is some healthy competitition, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as a debacle!

Maybe the debacle is (again) having a QB who is sometimes mistaken for a statue except when he does a turf dive when he hears footsteps? :)
Questioning Ricky's courage?
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: go guins on August 31, 2016, 02:29:42 PM
Predictions?

I'll go with YSU 24-6
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ysuseasonticket on August 31, 2016, 03:45:23 PM
The team is irked that Duquesne made the playoffs last year.  They are going to punish them
It still irks me too......a lot.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
Well, give Duquesne credit from last year, they gave William and Mary a game in the playoffs. We definitely didn't earn our way last year at 5-6. Obviously I wished the penguins would have made the playoffs last year too, but just saying.

My prediction is 31-7 YSU. It depends on the offense in my estimation though. Could be a higher score difference, or even as close as 31-14. But ultimately going with 31-7 for my official prediction.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 31, 2016, 05:53:52 PM
35-34 guins in 2 OT
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: guinpen on August 31, 2016, 05:59:08 PM
Guins by 14
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: OleYSUfan on August 31, 2016, 06:06:35 PM
We maybe under estimating Duquesne. I feel it will a little closer than some of the previous predictions. Our defense should be solid, but the offense is still in doubt. Turnovers may play big in this game, but YSU will prevail 24-10. I would like to see our offense put on a clinic!!

Go YSU!!!
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: HappyPenguin on August 31, 2016, 06:06:54 PM
16-7 for the Y-town AllReds
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Wick250 on August 31, 2016, 06:08:24 PM
Duquesne has 12 FBS transfers, including 3 from Penn State and 1 each from Ohio State, Pitt, West Virginia, and Arizona.  This is not the non-scholarship program that we played years ago.  I just hope that the team is taking this game much more seriously than some fans.

The good thing is that they have never played against a defense that is as good as ours.  It will be interesting to see how much Pelini has changed the culture in the past year.  We better not see players just going through the motions because of a perceived inferior opponent.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: The YO Show on August 31, 2016, 06:25:16 PM
Despite my prediction, there is a good part of me that feels this game could be close, which is why I said don't knock Duquense they played William and Mary hard. I think the players realize this is going to be a good team though Wick. After all, I remember Rivers said they were a challenge just like it would be opening up to an FBS team or something. So hopefully, the other players feel the same way. If Pelini was right in saying he feels that we have come a long way culturally as a team over the last year, then hopefully all the players take this game seriously and are ready.

chief, I see you downgraded your prediction for margin of victory in comparison to AGS.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 31, 2016, 06:36:51 PM
Despite my prediction, there is a good part of me that feels this game could be close, which is why I said don't knock Duquense they played William and Mary hard. I think the players realize this is going to be a good team though Wick. After all, I remember Rivers said they were a challenge just like it would be opening up to an FBS team or something. So hopefully, the other players feel the same way. If Pelini was right in saying he feels that we have come a long way culturally as a team over the last year, then hopefully all the players take this game seriously and are ready.

chief, I see you downgraded your prediction for margin of victory in comparison to AGS.

Hahaha yes I did. After some serious thought. Dukes are going to give us a game.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 31, 2016, 08:53:56 PM
Duquesne has 12 FBS transfers, including 3 from Penn State and 1 each from Ohio State, Pitt, West Virginia, and Arizona.  This is not the non-scholarship program that we played years ago.  I just hope that the team is taking this game much more seriously than some fans.

The good thing is that they have never played against a defense that is as good as ours.  It will be interesting to see how much Pelini has changed the culture in the past year.  We better not see players just going through the motions because of a perceived inferior opponent.
Great post Wick, I would love if every player took your message to bed with them tonight. 12 FBS transfers just blows my mind and I'm having a hard time comprehending it. They did play against Buffalo a few years ago and their upset bid just fell short. They will be be ready, we need to set the tone early and not let up..My pick 34-17 Good Guys..I know that sounds like a ton of points for our offense compared to other predictions, but I have my reasons why
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ValleyTalk on August 31, 2016, 08:55:00 PM
YSU 20
DUQ 10

We aren't overlooking anyone, but Duquesne isn't a terrible squad either. Go Guins
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2016, 09:01:10 AM
Gut feeling is Ricky comes out 1st series, but then they start rotating and get Hunter in as well.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 01, 2016, 09:08:16 AM
From everything I've read and have been told by the folks, I'd be quite surprised if Ricky Davis is not the starter tonight...

Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 01, 2016, 09:26:12 AM
On a side note Jerry Schmitt head coach of Duquesne has just been awarded a 5 year contract extension and the Dukes will be playing at Hawaii in 2018..and if they weren't excited enough to be playing us tonight they probably are now
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nick on September 01, 2016, 12:02:55 PM
I absolutely love college football, it's like the return of an old friend.  Looking forward to seeing old tailgate friends tonight, most of whom I have not seen since November.  If YSU has any shot at WVU, we really need to blow Duquesne out but I think the game is going to be close, YSU 31-24.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 01, 2016, 04:09:56 PM
I absolutely love college football, it's like the return of an old friend.  Looking forward to seeing old tailgate friends tonight, most of whom I have not seen since November.  If YSU has any shot at WVU, we really need to blow Duquesne out but I think the game is going to be close, YSU 31-24.

Anything less will be deemed a loss.  Need to impress the skeptical local folk to fill the Castle in 2016.

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/083016aaa.html

FBS INFLUENCE: There are 12 players who were previously on FBS rosters on the Duquesne roster in 2016, nine of whom are on the Dukes' opening day two-deep. Those players include senior WR Wayne Capers, Jr. (Arizona), sophomore QB Kareem Coles (Idaho), junior WR Jaquan Davidson (Pitt), sophomore LB Bryan Glover (Eastern Michigan), junior LB Carter Henderson (Penn State), junior WR Thomas Lucas (UConn), redshirt P/PK Mitch MacZura (Ohio State), junior WR Chavas Rawlins (West Virginia), graduate transfer WR Blair Roberts (Old Dominion), sophomore DB Brandon Stanback (Buffalo), senior LB Gary Wooten (Penn State) and sophomore DB Daquan Worley (Penn State).
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 01, 2016, 04:40:51 PM
Could someone post a starting lineup for Duquesne? Thanks
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 01, 2016, 06:42:29 PM
Painful pregame interview with moRon.  We'll be playing two NEC teams/season for the foreseable future.  No challenge from the interviewer at all.  Just slobbery accolades.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: penguinpower on September 01, 2016, 11:03:44 PM
Not to say I told you so........but I said they wouldn't score more than ten points on the defense.  Clearly I was correct in my analysis. 
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2016, 11:46:43 PM
First of all, s/o to the students. Prob the biggest student section for years at a YSU game. Duquesne was obviously worse than we all thought. Good to see Ricky get all the snaps. We can really succeed with this kid. Interesting to see Hosick play. Either Wells is really still banged up or Hosick has passed him up. I see Brock is out on the OL for a couple weeks with injury. Fraser did an admirable job. WR's actually impressed. Seems they rotate about 5-6 deep in and out. Defense lights out as always. Solid performance all around. Onto WVU!
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 01, 2016, 11:49:58 PM
Bo and Shane just playing mind games with us all.

Charles Grove ‏@CgroveVindy  42m42 minutes ago

Ricky Davis said he knew he was the starter for a few weeks and asked it to be kept a secret. #YSU @vindicator
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2016, 12:03:54 AM
Guys,

As I see it, if you run the QB in the mvfc, you will need at least 3.  They will kill a running QB. If that is the strategy, then we will need all of them.  Stupid strategy.  Run out of a power O as we did earlier in the game.  This isn't rocket science.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Wick250 on September 02, 2016, 12:06:26 AM
Very acceptable for the opener.  O-line did their jobs, albeit against a very weak defense.  Davis looked like a good match for this type of offense.  Wide receivers passed their initial test, but we have to see them operate against the better teams in the league before we let them off the hook.

Nice pressure on the Duquesne quarterback who certainly is legit.  And penguinpower, nice job by the new punter, your relative, I believe?  Two punts: one to the 13 yard line and the other one to the 9.  Can't ask for more.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2016, 12:07:09 AM
Ricky is built solidly and is tough but he does need to be careful. I'll take a QB who can run over a sitting duck back there any day though...
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2016, 12:07:42 AM
#11 and #9 are going to be problems all year for opposing offenses. Glad they're on our side!!!
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2016, 12:08:58 AM
Very acceptable for the opener.  O-line did their jobs, albeit against a very weak defense.  Davis looked like a good match for this type of offense.  Wide receivers passed their initial test, but we have to see them operate against the better teams in the league before we let them off the hook.

Nice pressure on the Duquesne quarterback who certainly is legit.  And penguinpower, nice job by the new punter, your relative, I believe?  Two punts: one to the 13 yard line and the other one to the 9.  Can't ask for more.

Yes my relative. 1st cousin, although I am much older as the family had 13 kids on my father's side.  Mark was the ring bearer in my wedding
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: The YO Show on September 02, 2016, 04:32:14 AM
Good game by the penguins. Watched on my phone on espn 3 at work. Penguin power,  which engineering program did you graduate from at YSU?
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: YSUGO on September 02, 2016, 08:11:03 AM
Great night for football.  Good to see students out supporting their school.  How about that whistle! Defense showed it can get it done.  Special teams it's all about the Kennedy. He can kick it.  Team played with some emotion which I hadn't seen in awhile. Davis was ok.  He is the typical run first QB but against the Dukes anybody would of looked good.  He has improved but don't see him looking off receivers no different than Wells, but he can run.  He has improved.  But again the competition skews it.  He won't last long if we run him to death.  I agree with Penguinpower on that.  Rivers is a beast.  Liked the 3rd string RB.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: go guins on September 02, 2016, 08:37:57 AM

You always hope to learn a lot about your team in the first game.  But I didn't learn much last night.  I saw a lot I already knew:
Rivers is a draft pick in waiting
D-line overall is good.
Linebackers solid.
Kicking game more than solid.
Ruiz is far better than Webb and should be starter (I'd use Webb in the slot like we did Stubbs, to get them both on the field, especially since we have a 3rd TB in Tevin)
OL is huge and far too big for teams like Duquesne
What I wanted to find out and didn't:
Can secondary hold up to big time passing attack. (Early evidence is questionable)
Can Davis actually town 1AA quality passes.  (Had 3-4 really nice throws, but also stared down every receiver and was late getting rid of the ball a couple times.  Works against inferior competition, but not MVFC)
Can receivers catch under pressure?  (Had decent game, but also a couple drops on less than perfect but catchable balls.  No results against pressure situations because we didn't have any pressure)
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 02, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
Nice overall team win and Davis was solid in his first career start. Let's face it guys the N.E.C. can be just God awful at times. Our week 3 opponent R.M.U. was beat by Alderson Broaddus a division 2 team. I can't even get excited to listen to that game on the radio. I just think these games do very little to get you ready for conference play. I look for Duquesne to be know better then a .500 team this year. South Dakota our conference opener, played New Mexico good for a quarter before getting blowing out..Bring on the Mountaineers!!
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 02, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
Throwing a couple questions out there to discuss:

1--- Any clue what happened with the MyYTV deal? No more Chad doing the games. It was Jim Campbell and a sidekick, perhaps his 570 WKBN HS GOTW sidekick, calling the game on ESPN3 last night. On the 5th quarter show, someone asked about it, and they seemed tight lipped. In addition, @ytownsocial on Twitter reported a week ago that no home or away games would be on local TV this year.

2--- The Ticket Enforcers. Heard from a few people they were not too happy that they are enforcing the seating in the old GA sections and near the top of the stadium. Now I have no problem with this when we have big crowds, but the place was 50% full last night. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2016, 09:46:28 AM
Throwing a couple questions out there to discuss:

1--- Any clue what happened with the MyYTV deal? No more Chad doing the games. It was Jim Campbell and a sidekick, perhaps his 570 WKBN HS GOTW sidekick, calling the game on ESPN3 last night. On the 5th quarter show, someone asked about it, and they seemed tight lipped. In addition, @ytownsocial on Twitter reported a week ago that no home or away games would be on local TV this year.

2--- The Ticket Enforcers. Heard from a few people they were not too happy that they are enforcing the seating in the old GA sections and near the top of the stadium. Now I have no problem with this when we have big crowds, but the place was 50% full last night. Any thoughts?

1. Yeah pretty disappointed to hear that. Always liked going back to watch the replays.

2. Didn't there used to be GA seating ? Now every ticket is reserved, even sitting high up right below the box.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 02, 2016, 10:03:20 AM
The TV announcers, including Jim Campbell, were putting me to sleep.  It may work for WBB, but not FB. I'd move Drae Smith to TV play-by-play.  Bob and Chris are a great radio combo.

These 1AAA games hurt us in so many ways, and yet our AD had promised them for the foreseeable future.  One 1AAA club is fine, and I think Duquesne should be that solitary cupcake.  As a lifelong Penguin fan, it kills me to see the program reduced to basically being an associated NEC member, when we could collect big checks at Kent and whoop 'em for all of NEO to see. 

This was a larger margin of victory than what we had two years ago (11 points) and supposedly this is a much improved Dukes team.  The officiating was among the worst I've seen and the MOV should've been larger. 

Everything looked solid including run D and O line.  Davis was outstanding, and so was Trent.  If Trent were the starter, then we'd also be solid at QB.  Obviously playing a Big 12 or MVFC is a whole different matter, but this year, IMO, anything is possible, including a national championship and wins at Fargo and Morgantown.  I've not been this optimistic since the Tressel years.



Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 02, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
Charles in today's Vindy:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/sep/01/ysu-rolls-610-yards-rout-duquesne/?nw

YOUNGSTOWN — The Youngstown State football team crushed Duquesne 45-10 in the season opener for both teams Thursday night at Stambaugh Stadium.

The Penguins rolled up 610 yards, including 384 on the ground, in dismantling the Dukes. Duquesne made the Football Championship Subdivision playoffs last season, but couldn't stop YSU.

Three Penguins running backs ran for at least 89 yards. Senior Jody Webb ran for 96 yards on seven carries and became the 19th player in school history to run for at least 2,000 yards in a career. Sophomore Tevin McCaster led the Penguins with 107 yards rushing on just seven attempts while Martin Ruiz had 89 yards on 11 carries.

Junior quarterback Ricky Davis was 12 pf 16 for 187 yards and three touchdowns in his first college start. Davis also ran for 74 yards

Junior Darien Townsend was a favorite target of Davis catching three passes for 91 yards, including the first two touchdown catches of his career.


Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 02, 2016, 10:10:05 AM
Another Vindy article from Charles:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/sep/02/ysu-hazard-for-dukes/

Penguins seize control behind Davis at QB

By Charles Grove

cgrove@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

For those who had concerns whether the Youngstown State offense was going to be able to move the ball, breathe a sigh of relief.

The Penguins racked up 610 yards of offense in Thursday’s 45-10 blowout of Duquesne at Stambaugh Stadium, opening their season in dominating fashion.

The Penguins capitalized with a quick start as Ricky Davis hit Darien Townsend for a 49-yard touchdown pass before two minutes had left the clock.

“It was huge,” Davis said. “It really set the tone for the night. I threw it and got the wind knocked out of me and thought it was incomplete, and then I heard the fans roar. It was exciting.”

Davis, who had known for a few weeks that he was going to be the starting quarterback, was impressive to say the least. He completed 12 of 16 passes for 187 yards and three touchdowns and ran 10 times for 74 yards.

Townsend was the main receiving threat. He had three catches — including two touchdowns — for 91 yards.

“I believe I made a good statement tonight but after the game walking down the tunnel I was already thinking about West Virginia,” Davis said.

The Penguins were balanced offensively rushing for 394 yards and throwing for 216. The offensive line dominated Duquesne’s front seven, opening up big holes all night and keeping the backfield protected.

Jody Webb finished with 96 yards and Martin Ruiz rushed for 89 yards and a touchdown. Third-string running back Tevin McCaster picked up 107 yards in the final quarter when the game was no longer in question.


“I thought we had a good mix tonight,” YSU head coach Bo Pelini said. “We weren’t one dimensional and it kept them on their toes. The O-line blocked well tonight.”

Defensively, the defense lived up to the hype. Duquesne quarterback Dillon Buechel was limited to 188 yards passing and the Dukes managed just 34 yards on the ground.

Once the Dukes fell behind, it was apparent the running game had to be at least in part abandoned.

“It’s going to be a good year,” Pelini said speaking about the defense. “I thought we competed really well on the outside.”

Defensive end Avery Moss said once the team knew the pass was coming, that made the night enjoyable.

“It just makes the game more fun,” Moss said. “You’ve got Derek Rivers on the other side and Jaylin [Kelly] bitzing like crazy. It’s just makes everything fun.

Duquesne made the game interesting when trailing 24-7 a couple of minutes before halftime. The Dukes drove down the field and scored a late touchdown as Buechel hit Nehari Crawford from six yards out to make it a two-score game.

But that was all the Dukes could muster.

A quick possession after halftime and another Penguins score erased nearly all the doubt of the outcome.

“It was important to step on their throats after we kind of gave them life,” Pelini said. “We had a good start to the third quarter and got the momentum back which I thought was good.”

The overall grade Davis and the coaching staff gave out? Good but still things to work on before the Penguins head to Morgantown to face West Virginia.

“I just need to clean up some little mistakes and get ready for West Virginia,” Davis said. “There were a couple of mistakes I wish I could have back.”

But the extra time off after a Thursday opener should help.

“The days off are huge,” Davis said. “We’ll need a lot of preparation.”


Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on September 02, 2016, 11:37:43 AM
 I think Penguin Nation's post nailed it.   I heard MyYTV and YSU had a falling out, usually these things are about money.  But I agree, liked the replay.

 Our schedule is pathetic and a failed attempt by Ron Strollo to secure a playoff berth, how has that worked out the past decade?   Many fans don't want to come see a scrimmage and that is what we are doing my playing the two NEC teams.   I hear Strollo always wants 6 home games, sad.    Look at who North Dakota State and Northern Iowa schedule, quality FCS teams that we should be playing.   

Maybe one sure win, but not two.   If you can't beat the good FCS teams in a home and home scheduling, then you are probably not good enough to make the playoffs anyway.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 02, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
First of all, s/o to the students. Prob the biggest student section for years at a YSU game.

Agreed.  Hope they continue to show up in those numbers.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 02, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
Guys, I have said this before and will continue to do so. I want home games. No other way to say it. Don't care who, just get them in the Ice Castle. I want to play no one that is top-tier until we have had some string of success; so yes it will be for some time to come even if success begins this year. Just live with it. Enjoy tailgating and all the festivities & pageantry that is Penguin football. We are a DI football team, we schedule out quite a few years.

As to the game:

1. Is it just me or did that game seem to go on forever?

2. QB situation is still open. I found it interesting that Hosick passed (did not run) the entire first series. Then he was in hand-off clock churning mode his second and final series. He does have more velocity on the ball than Davis, but not as much as Wells. He is being evaluated by coach M & may yet be a starter for us.

3. Ruiz is our #1 back, no question. I love Webb, but he is a speed back, not a bread & butter back. Ruiz has more ability to make a hole. Having him come in at reserve, we made Ruiz a target, but once he was in for awhile he took over. McCaster was awesome and Alessi showed off his skills as well. Very happy to see that. That second run by Alessi (the one over the left), showed off some really good footwork; he got down low and leaped over a would-be tackler and stayed in stride.

4. Defense really has some questions, no matter what you read. We give up WAY too many yards on first-down still, then tighten up. That QB for Duquesne is a better passer than most we will see in the MVFC, but not all of them. I am not sure what game Moss was playing in, but we really did not pressure the way he indicated. I am happy the way the D-line played, but they were far from dominant.

5. Improved Dline play made life easier for the LB's, but late in the first half Duquesne mixed-up the passes inside and out ...we looked silly ...made mistakes and gave up a TD. Look for that style of offense against us all game next week ..we were exposed. As Go states, Corners need work.

6. Aside from some nice ground work. Offensively it looks like we are going back to more balance ...which is what we all hoped for after last year. Until we see some solid opposition we will not know. I would like to see more option calls. Ruiz was looking good at receiving and Webb looked like a WR out there at times ...nice job.

7. Special teams, special teams special teams. After adding a coordinator I expected something, but our coverage is terrible. We brought on some REALLY nice pressure on the punting game though. We need more height on the kick-offs. MVFC teams will take it to the house against us. Either that or we need about 10-more yards of distance to carry the ball out of the back of the end-zone. On a positive note, our speed getting down field is exceptional. Connor does not seem to have the leg strength, but I have not seen him kick-off since he began wearing a shoe ...I would have liked to see more rotation yesterday ...maybe will will in 2-weeks.  Schuler took some flack yesterday, but his punt up close was very good, no matter what the announcer said. It hit flat, so it did not roll very far, but it was just what we needed. I still have a couple of questions in that position, but I like what I am seeing.

8. Nice visiting crowd. Very vocal. Remember that for all the bi***ing people do around here, we will be forced to schedule home & home against these guys in just a couple of years. They are full-scholarship before long. YSU student section ...THANK YOU!! They left early, but that is to be expected at a night game.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 02, 2016, 02:58:35 PM
Strollo wants an extra home game for revenue purposes, understandable. But for a playoff perspective, to play a high ranked FCS opponent either home or away. Say we lose that game on the road by 1 or 2 points. Tough, close game. The committee probably thinks more highly of that than beating Duquesne or Bobby Morris by 30 at home. If you're going to lose, lose early and lose out of conference.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 02, 2016, 03:14:35 PM
Two NEC/1AAA games are idiocy from every angle.  We can generate more revenue playing Kent (>$300k), it hurts recruiting, playoff selection, fan interest, attendance, and MVFC preparation.

I must assume moRon has the AD job for life, therefore MBB will perpetually suck, even post-Slocum.  FB will do well in the Pelini era, but if Carl doesn't stay on as HC, then FB too will come to resemble MBB if moRon selects the next HC after 2018.

Remember that Pelini specifically stated that it was Tressel that lured him to YSU, Tressel flew to Lincoln to meet with him, and Tressel will almost certainly seek political office in the next few years and leave YSU.

Without Tressel inserting himself into the process, moRon was going to hire Dean Hood, who was soon therafter fired by EKU.

It's a shame, because outside of the Pelini years, we'll never see revenue sports at YSU thrive....ever.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 02, 2016, 04:40:47 PM
Okay Nation :)

Oh so if we hire Bo Pelini it is Tressel's hire ...but if we hire Hood it is Strollo's hire? LOL. So the process is different if you are famous? "hey let me know if you are (or are not) a well-known IA/FBS coach and I will determine who talks to you".

LOL. FYI, Strollo hired Pelini. Tressel has so little do with sports you would not believe. There is process in place that is the same no matter what. FYI Hood is a very good coach; which is why he is Assistant Head Coach in FBS right now.

So tell me something. in 1985, the three finalists to replace Narduzzi were:
1. Jim Tressel: Position coach at OhioState.
2. Gerry Faust: Former Head Coach of Notre Dame
3. Sam Rutigliano: Former Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns

Which one would you have hired?


Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 02, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
JT is so uninvolved that he flew to Lincoln to meet with BP?

Hood is so good that EKU fired him?

I'll just put this here:

"..Tressel was a big reason why he took the job, wants to learn a lot from him, since he has an understanding of how to coach on this level"

http://ysupenguins.com/forum/index.php/topic,10088.0.html

Interesting fact: Hood had a worse record (at an inferior program) than the Wolf had at YSU for the two years preceding the hire.  Strollo was literally ready to hire a downgrade from the guy we were firing.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: guinpen on September 02, 2016, 05:41:03 PM
Ok, the season has started, the weather was great, student section was really good, team played good albeit a few too many flags, we won by a bunch, oh yeah we beat a PLAYOFF team from last year, and yet negativity.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2016, 05:44:36 PM
I think we looked good,  but we will see soon enough.  I cannot believe that Bobby Morris lost to a weak D2 team, won the turnover margin, a d only mustered something like 169 yards of offense.  We are going to crush them and it isn't going to help us.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 02, 2016, 07:16:11 PM
I think we looked good,  but we will see soon enough.  I cannot believe that Bobby Morris lost to a weak D2 team, won the turnover margin, a d only mustered something like 169 yards of offense.  We are going to crush them and it isn't going to help us.

So an increase in the "W" column does not help?
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: penguinpower on September 02, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
I think we looked good,  but we will see soon enough.  I cannot believe that Bobby Morris lost to a weak D2 team, won the turnover margin, a d only mustered something like 169 yards of offense.  We are going to crush them and it isn't going to help us.

So an increase in the "W" column does not help?

If you want to be the best you have to beat the best. Playing the little sisters of the poor isn't helping us develop.  It is simply padding the win column and the playoff committee knows it.  Tell you what, if you want the extra home game, take the extra home game in the playoffs.  We could have had a few extra home games over the last 9 years but our schedule hurt us in several of these years leading up to Wolford.
Title: Re: Duquesne VS. YSU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 02, 2016, 07:29:04 PM
JT is so uninvolved that he flew to Lincoln to meet with BP?

Hood is so good that EKU fired him?

I'll just put this here:

"..Tressel was a big reason why he took the job, wants to learn a lot from him, since he has an understanding of how to coach on this level"

http://ysupenguins.com/forum/index.php/topic,10088.0.html

Interesting fact: Hood had a worse record (at an inferior program) than the Wolf had at YSU for the two years preceding the hire.  Strollo was literally ready to hire a downgrade from the guy we were firing.

I don't recall either Tressel or Strollo flying to Nebraska. I will need to see evidence of that. I know that we sent a plane to bring him here to meet with Strollo. Hired him the same day. You never answered my question. The fact is, YSU hired the #3 choice in Tressel. Sam was not hired because of Steelers fans "in the Valley"; the reality was it was Steelers fans at YSU. Faust had already agreed to the YSU job in principle and jumped as soon as Akron announced their move to IA & offered him. Hiring coaches is a tough game & we play it as well as anyone. I do not recall anyone "almost hiring"  Hood. Would have been a nice choice though.

Guinpen is right, just be happy with what you have as you are not going to change it. Stop acting like you are the only one that knows our MBB record. DI sports are a "men's club" YSU is no different than OSU in that regard. That is why your beloved university president had to resign at OSU, while an incompetent buffoon of an AD is still there. Yet it got him here did it not? Yet you still have to attach Strollo and Slocum. You are like the child that thinks if you keep saying something, it will be true.