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Title: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 25, 2016, 01:51:00 PM
YSU has 9 on scholarship.  That means we have 4 openings.  Anyone have inside info of anyone that might be coming?   I saw a few names on verbal commits.com but nothing concrete.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: Dmorton on April 25, 2016, 06:16:32 PM
I see most everyone we offer is going some place other than YSU!!!!   I'm sure we'll pick up our two 5'6 shooting guards.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 26, 2016, 02:15:26 PM
Who cares, as long as Slocum is still here, its gonna be a revolving door year after year.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: IAA Fan on April 26, 2016, 04:28:06 PM
Most people do Chief.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ELPENGUIN on April 27, 2016, 06:01:05 AM
I care much Chief.  Your negative response is counter YSU.  You should support Akron........they have a winning basketball program and love fans who reside in the woodwork.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: go guins on April 27, 2016, 10:45:11 AM
Chief says, "its gonna be a revolving door year after year."
Well, that's the nature of the game these days.  Look at any program, successful (IE OSU or Kentucky) or unsuccessful, and yes, it is a revolving door. 
All this "hating on the coach" is tiring and boring.  I'll tell you something about Coach Slocum.  He isn't perfect.  Somehow, I also suspect our coach hating bloggers aren't either.
You know, I am looking at a bunch of NFL Mock drafts and I find this inescapable fact.  The worst FBS coach is without a doubt Urban Meyer.  I see as many as 6 first round players and 3-4 second round players and he got killed by MSU, who has, what, maybe 1-2 second round players? 
My point is, lighten up and get behind the program, it should be FUN.  College athletics is great fun, IF YOU LET IT.  It can’t possibly be any fun for the hate mongers.  I guess I simply don’t understand.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: Penguin Nation on April 27, 2016, 11:13:13 AM
  I'll tell you something about Coach Slocum.  He isn't perfect.  Somehow, I also suspect our coach hating bloggers aren't either.

When I go to work, I bring my A game....every..single...time.  I wouldn't shame or embarrass myself or my employer by performing at any level below my maximum effort.  That attitude and ethic has served me well.

No one and no thing is perfect, so that's just a trite slogan.

Speaking only for myself, I have zero respect seeing mismanagement of something I care about (YSU).  Those that exert feeble efforts and get feeble results are worthy of wholesale scorn and mockery.

If you aren't going to adopt the "Excellence in all things" motto...than at least try...pretend you care....act like you've heard the word "passion" somewhere in your life....

I made note of the quote from moRon in the recent Vindy article where he said, "it was hard to expect much more."  That quote epitomizes the Strollo era and Strollo ethic.

Like I said, at the minimum...at least fake determination.....
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: go guins on April 27, 2016, 12:06:48 PM
  I'll tell you something about Coach Slocum.  He isn't perfect.  Somehow, I also suspect our coach hating bloggers aren't either.

When I go to work, I bring my A game....every..single...time.  I wouldn't shame or embarrass myself or my employer by performing at any level below my maximum effort.  That attitude and ethic has served me well.

No one and no thing is perfect, so that's just a trite slogan.

Speaking only for myself, I have zero respect seeing mismanagement of something I care about (YSU).  Those that exert feeble efforts and get feeble results are worthy of wholesale scorn and mockery.

If you aren't going to adopt the "Excellence in all things" motto...than at least try...pretend you care....act like you've heard the word "passion" somewhere in your life....

I made note of the quote from moRon in the recent Vindy article where he said, "it was hard to expect much more."  That quote epitomizes the Strollo era and Strollo ethic.

Like I said, at the minimum...at least fake determination.....
I'll bet you whatever you want that Strollo and Slocum say they attempt to bring their "A-Game" in everything they do.  You don't always accomplish that, neither do they, but they don't hate you and you DO hate them.  IMO, they deserve better than you!  All I'm going to say on this.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: Penguin Nation on April 27, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
If it is not obvious that renewing Slocum's contract is not an "A game", then it likely never will be.  The AD should at least try to succeed, rather than shrugging his shoulders and collecting a check.

If I were Bobby Hain, I'd be livid that my injury was used as an excuse for underachievement, and the rationale for extending Slocum's contract.  If anything, his injury exposed a lack of depth.

At least the Wolf and BP have passion.  I am able to offer some forgiveness for failure if at least there's an obvious and sincere earnestness to succeed.

When a YSU student gets a "C" on a test that they were capable of getting an "A" on, should they say, "well, that's the best I could hope for"?

Not only is there is not a winning attitude in MBB and the athletic department, I don't think they'd even recognize what a winning attitude looks like.

I mentioned in earlier posts what FAU does to involve students in the athletic programs, and there is nothing near that effort at YSU.

Like I said....at least try.....



Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: go guins on April 27, 2016, 01:19:29 PM
"When a YSU student gets a "C" on a test that they were capable of getting an "A" on, should they say, "well, that's the best I could hope for"?"

Bringing you’re a game doesn’t always mean performing at an A level.  Even a chronic mediocre student like you should recognize that. 

But suppose he was a D student, and really busted his ass a got the C, then what?

  You are trying to play at the same level as Kentucky and Duke in DOWNTOWN YOUNGSTOWN OHIO.  The "Worst Place to Live in Ohio" according to a reputable poll.   With a program that has been a losing program in a league without natural rivalries etc.   Frankly to hang in with community support like you and your kind provide, I think Slocum has done and admirable job.
“At least the Wolf and BP have passion”
Not sure how you determine that?  Certainly JT didn’t rant on the sideline, but nobody ever doubted his passion.  The extension to Slocum was from JT not Strollo, and don’t ever doubt that for a minute.

Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 27, 2016, 01:52:25 PM
9 players transferring out of your program, Most after 1 year is a big, big problem. A problem that does not happen at very many successful programs. The revolving door for them is players leaving for professional basketball, because those programs are successful and win. Something this program doesn't seem to understand.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: IAA Fan on April 27, 2016, 04:16:36 PM
Actually, the number of players leaving over coach S' tenure is not an alarming figure at all. Now 2-years ago (with so many at once), I would have liked some answers, but most was kept "behind closed doors" ...we need to learn to live with that. This is not Ohio State ...there is no media scrambling to cover YSU athletics, so if they are not told anything ...then so be it. I have my suspicions at what happened, but I am not losing sleep over the lack of confirmation from the Athletic Department.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: popsicle on April 27, 2016, 08:49:08 PM
And what would those suspicions be 1AA? Care to expound?
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 27, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
Actually, the number of players leaving over coach S' tenure is not an alarming figure at all. Now 2-years ago (with so many at once), I would have liked some answers, but most was kept "behind closed doors" ...we need to learn to live with that. This is not Ohio State ...there is no media scrambling to cover YSU athletics, so if they are not told anything ...then so be it. I have my suspicions at what happened, but I am not losing sleep over the lack of confirmation from the Athletic Department.

And there in lies the problem. Athletic department not being held accountable for what is a decaying basketball program.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: jbags on April 28, 2016, 03:22:04 PM
Commitment from Jeremiah Ferguson 6'2 pg...check out his video..
In some ways reminds me of Kyrie..we need 2 bigs now...missed out on the JC kid that went to Cleveland St
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: go guins on April 28, 2016, 04:45:58 PM
Commitment from Jeremiah Ferguson 6'2 pg...check out his video..
In some ways reminds me of Kyrie..we need 2 bigs now...missed out on the JC kid that went to Cleveland St
Reminds you of Kyrie?  What, because he is young and black??  Let's not get silly here bags, he seems like he can shoot some, but his dribbling is closer to mine than Kyrie.   
You must not read this blog enough.  This guy must be a real bum because Slocum was able to get him to committ.  OR it will be days before he transfers out because Slocum is such a hidious human being!
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: jbags on April 28, 2016, 05:00:05 PM
You didn't like the spin move or splitting the double team move with that crossover? I said in some ways not the second coming...hey I'm not a JS fan but from what I've seen of the 2 of them...give me this kid a million times over Latin Davis
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: Dmorton on April 28, 2016, 05:58:18 PM
By Bigs you mean the two 6'5, or 6'7 guys Slocum will pick-up. 
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: jbags on April 28, 2016, 06:20:47 PM
Just so they are bangers...we don't have any at all...you can be 6'5 and play 6'8...we haven't had one in a long time
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ucfpengbuck on April 28, 2016, 06:26:38 PM
Thanks jbags for the update.  I was hoping for this type of info instead of a beat down on JS.

Ferguson had committed to Navy.  Passes with either hands and uses off hand well on layups.   Seems to fade on his jumper with a leg split but it works for him.   Looks good but highlight films are just a glimpse.   Looked forward to him being a Penguin.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: go guins on April 29, 2016, 10:41:07 AM
You didn't like the spin move or splitting the double team move with that crossover? I said in some ways not the second coming...hey I'm not a JS fan but from what I've seen of the 2 of them...give me this kid a million times over Latin Davis
Against high school kids?  Has an odd looking leg action on shot, and is NO Kyrie Irving with the dribble.  If he could shoot lights out from 3 and dribble like Irving, you think he would be here or maybe Duke, Kentucky or UNC?   
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: jbags on April 29, 2016, 11:23:42 AM
Wow! Did I say he was the second coming of Kyrie? Navy thought he was worth a scholly and that's good enough for me...if that kid played at a local H.S. and signed elsewhere you'd leap all over our staff for not signing him...at least he's not 5'6... looking at our roster we need 2 post players...and at this point the JC route is our only alternative..if Scott Hollywood's kid wanted to come here he would've signed alteady...same with that Goldman kid
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: IAA Fan on April 29, 2016, 12:54:29 PM
I see what you mean about the hands UCF ...great observation.

I do like Davis.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ytowngirl on April 29, 2016, 05:20:27 PM
Wow! Did I say he was the second coming of Kyrie? Navy thought he was worth a scholly and that's good enough for me...if that kid played at a local H.S. and signed elsewhere you'd leap all over our staff for not signing him...at least he's not 5'6... looking at our roster we need 2 post players...and at this point the JC route is our only alternative..if Scott Hollywood's kid wanted to come here he would've signed alteady...same with that Goldman kid

Navy only gives out scholarships lol.  No one pays to go to the Naval Academy.  Navy doesn't recruit for talent.  They recruit kids who want to commit their futures to being in the Navy and all midshipmen are required to play a sport while there. 
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: jbags on April 29, 2016, 06:17:02 PM
Yup...you're right...David Robinson wasn't recruited for talent
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ytowngirl on April 30, 2016, 04:06:11 PM
Yup...you're right...David Robinson wasn't recruited for talent

Nope he wasn't.  His father was retired Navy and he never even played basketball until his senior year in High School.  I've spent enough time in the Navy and at the academy and I've heard Robinson speak about his life.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: IAA Fan on April 30, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
If I remember correctly, they said he was 6'4" or less and played football at over 250lbs. He was an admitted D&D lover and a mathematics wiz in High School; a math major at Annapolis. I also remember yelling at CSU to double-up on him in that elite-8 game when he dropped in the winning basket.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 02, 2016, 01:29:57 PM
According to verbalcommits.com Raheem williams verbals to YSU.   6-5 juco.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ucfpengbuck on May 02, 2016, 01:57:22 PM
Just did a search and Williams played JC ball in Florida.  Averaged 9.9 per game.  shot 42% and 26% from 3.
Averaged 5.5 rebounds a game.  Team went 12-19.   His coach said in an article that Rahim has a 43 inch vertical leap.          I hate to be negative but how does the 4th leading scored on a 12-19 team help YSU ? 
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: ytownchief22 on May 02, 2016, 08:55:44 PM
Just did a search and Williams played JC ball in Florida.  Averaged 9.9 per game.  shot 42% and 26% from 3.
Averaged 5.5 rebounds a game.  Team went 12-19.   His coach said in an article that Rahim has a 43 inch vertical leap.          I hate to be negative but how does the 4th leading scored on a 12-19 team help YSU ?

It doesn't.
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: Dmorton on May 02, 2016, 11:14:54 PM
There's my 6'5 guy!  Now, let's go get that powerful 6'7 wing.  That a get us ready for that tough Westminster team!
Title: Re: Men's basketball recruiting spring signing.
Post by: IAA Fan on May 03, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
I do like most of what I see with him. I would certainly let this guy shoot free-throws for about 4-hours a day until he gets that percentage up.