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Title: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on April 21, 2016, 04:58:31 PM
Does anyone else plan on going to this? I'm going to be going with 5 other people (for a total of 6). I've been dismayed with how high ticket prices for this game are already? I got 6 tickets to the Pitt YSU game in good seats on the vistors side for almost what the price of 1 ticket is going for at WVU in similar seating.  :o

Not sure if I should wait a while before purchasing tickets either this time?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: HappyPenguin on April 21, 2016, 05:44:12 PM
I would definitely wait then hit up stub hub end of summer. Prices for Pitt dropped daily in the weeks heading up to the game. I can't imagine their season ticket packages have been sold let alone delivered. There will be some coming.

I have heard from multiple sources that there fans are terrible. On par with Philly Flyers so expect taunts best case.

I'd think carefully before taking a kid.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on April 21, 2016, 08:06:58 PM
WVU fans are definitely rowdy. I am thinking about going... Gonna wait a couple more months.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on April 21, 2016, 08:08:55 PM
Oh, I'm aware of their fans. I'm going with 4 penguin fans, and one WVU fan. We are all in age ranges from 21-26. It just so happens that I went with the WVU fan to see them play Kansas State a few years ago in 2012 when WVU lost 55-14. I was expecting it to be a closer game. Anyway, we were sitting next to a 45 year old kansas state fan. Was the only one in the area. I was backing him up in some cases. The nasty things people were saying by him, especially with their team losing so bad. They were just the worst fans I've ever witnessed, and I stay in our student section and hear what we say to the other team.

Definitely recommend traveling in groups and avoiding conflict. On our walk to the stadium, because we parked considerably far away, we saw many crazy parties, some fights, and couches and cars being burned (and this was BEFORE they the game even started, not after they lost 55-14).

Their season tickets have gone on sale. For the record, while the price of Pitt tickets dropped before the game, the tickets I bought last april were still $2 cheaper (I know because I ended up getting tickets right next to the large group of six last year late when more friends I knew wanted to come). But I am going to wait, because if they lose 1 of their first 2 games, I'm sure the price would drop. Its ridiculous how much their tickets are going for right now.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on April 21, 2016, 09:50:35 PM
We have quite a crowd going. I am gong to wait. I expect to see sub-$15 tickets by July. WVU fans are fans
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: gbs20 on April 21, 2016, 10:23:57 PM
Our son went to WVU and lives in Morgantown. Ive been to several WVU games....one of the great atmospheres in college football.  Definitely worth the trip. I found their fans rowdy but not obnoxious. They sell beer in the stadium.  Morgantown has some great spots for after the game including a couple of microbreweries.  Its kind of a larger version of Athens. One of the downsides in parking.  Either get there really early or park downtown and take the PRT system to the stadium.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: go guins on April 22, 2016, 08:59:14 AM
Great tips and advise guys. 
Thanks
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on June 07, 2016, 10:48:35 AM
So... have you seen the tickets for the game our box office has to offer until sometime in July? Sections 100 and 101, designated YSU student section. Price for tickets is $60. Now I looked on stubhub and other places, and for those sections it will be possible to buy on the secondary market for cheaper, or at least it is right now. My thoughts were I wanted to sit somewhere a little nicer too, but prices are insane! I'm flabbergasted by how high ticket prices are for WVU. Its not like the on field product has been stellar as of late either.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on June 08, 2016, 08:05:46 AM
they are at $34 now (I use seatguru.com). I have the alert turned on for $16 or less. I know the university gets a piece of the action, but we will bring around 8-10 people. $60 each is out of our price range.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on June 14, 2016, 12:34:14 PM
Currently $28 on Stubhub.  They had 7000 unsold tickets for last year's Liberty game, so they might run some sort of promotion in late August.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on July 12, 2016, 12:14:22 PM
Down to $25.00.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on July 19, 2016, 12:30:21 PM
They continue to drop.  Should be in the teens later this week.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on July 29, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
http://www.smokingmusket.com/2016/7/21/12181798/wvu-football-summer-preview-game-2-youngstown-state-penguins-ysu-west-virginia-mountaineers-football

One glaring sentence:

"The defensive strategy should not be too complicated: stack the box against Davis and drop into coverage for Wells."

Davis said on the radio that he could hear the defense say, "they're going to run!", when Davis was put in, and sure enough.....  It was insanely moronic to not let him pass.

I hope the OC is a year wiser in 2016.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 29, 2016, 10:12:47 AM
http://www.smokingmusket.com/2016/7/21/12181798/wvu-football-summer-preview-game-2-youngstown-state-penguins-ysu-west-virginia-mountaineers-football

One glaring sentence:

"The defensive strategy should not be too complicated: stack the box against Davis and drop into coverage for Wells."

Davis said on the radio that he could hear the defense say, "they're going to run!", when Davis was put in, and sure enough.....  It was insanely moronic to not let him pass.

I hope the OC is a year wiser in 2016.


Ah yes, the OC.....
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penquin68 on August 15, 2016, 12:56:22 PM
I see that sections 100 and 101 are designated YSU sections.  Anyone get tickets through YSU to confirm the section and location so that one can be sure of the ticket choice on Stub Hub?  Any further update on prices?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on August 16, 2016, 09:36:18 PM
Penquin, sorry I didn't answer sooner. I posted what sections the student section tickets were. I didn't buy the tickets, but if I recall how I found out the section was I went to the YSU ticket booth in person (inside stambaugh) and they told me what sections. However, I didn't like those locations of the stadium when I looked it up lol. I want to site at least on the 35, on either side of the 50 on the visitors side.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 02, 2016, 04:15:24 PM
I know this was about tickets, but lets have this become the game discussion thread! 8 days away  fb
Thoughts everyone? I know we haven't even seen the 'eers play yet, and will know more tomorrow.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: robmat2571 on September 03, 2016, 06:58:05 AM
Going down with a mixed group of YSU and WVU fans.  Tailgating around 10:30.  It'll be a fun environment in Morgantown... yes their fans are crazy and often rude but, it'll feel much different than YSU plaYing at Pitt.  go guins
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 03, 2016, 07:36:52 AM
I'm sure you will have a good time Robmat2571! And Go Guins  fb 8)
As an aside, one of my good friends is a big WVU fan.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 03, 2016, 10:49:21 PM
WVU impressed me on defense today vs Mizzou.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Double ET on September 04, 2016, 12:01:24 AM
I'm sure you will have a good time Robmat2571! And Go Guins  fb 8)
As an aside, one of my good friends is a big WVU fan.
Just the opposite, I told one of of my good friends who used to play Defense End for Missouri that we will take down WVU for him next week.

After graduating from YSU, my son was in U of Pitt studying for his Masters degree in engineering when YSU took down Pitt. Some of his Pitt classmates who went to WVU for their undergraduate degrees (they hated Pitt football) asked my son to buy YSU T-shirts for them to wear while going to their classes in Pitt. It was wild.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 04, 2016, 08:08:07 AM
You know, I hope they will sleep on us now that they beat Missouri. They shouldn't though, our conference did well against the Big 12. UNI beat Iowa State, and SDSU gave TCU a game. Thank goodness in previous comments Dana didn't even think FCS teams belonged on the same field as an FBS school (from previous comments)  ::)

He doesn't keep his team very disciplined (judging by off season issues, namely WVU having ALOT more DUIs per year for football players under Dana), and here's thinking that he overlooks us despite MVFC showing against Big 12 just because of his opinion towards FCS.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 04, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
WVU impressed me on defense today vs Mizzou.
I agree chief..and Yo it's not the first time UNI has pulled something like this off. Iowa St. is much improved this year and I honestly didn't see this coming. UNI lead the nation last year with 80 yards allowed on the ground and return just about everyone..they will be hard to beat this year
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 04, 2016, 09:15:41 PM
WVU's starting LT tore his ACL in the opener. Done for the year.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2016, 08:28:19 AM
You know,  I'm really thinking that we can keep it a low scoring game with our defense and WVU's offense not performing where it could be yet.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2016, 08:47:19 AM
Gets better, Howard their starting QB is injured... may NOT play Saturday. Was injured in the first game with an injury to his ribs:
http://www.todaysu.com/big-12/west-virginia-mountaineers/wvu-should-take-it-easy-with-skyler-howard-in-week-2/

Also, it's interesting to see this from the article: "QBs not named Skyler Howard: 3 plays, 2 turnovers (1 fumble, 1 INT)"
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2016, 09:04:36 AM
I want their QB to play. It will give us a better gage of where we are and no excuses when we play them to the wire.  Many of their fans and fans that follow only FBS teams do not realize how good the FCS is, especially teams from the Missouri Valley Football Conference.  Lets compare our conference and theirs:  UNI knocked off Iowa State and South Dakota State took TCU to the wire.  We are very close to being 2-0 in vs Big 12 competition.   We are in the top tier of the Missouri Valley and I expect to win at least one of those two games against northern Iowa and SDSU.   They have no way to calibrate us and will be surprised by the speed, size, depth and skill we have.  We are not a team to overlook
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2016, 09:11:21 AM
I also watched Dana's press conference and he mentions that Missouri had a 1st round defensive lineman they had to deal with.  Message for Dana,  we also have a first round defensive lineman  you will have to deal with.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2016, 09:15:37 AM
Yeah... and they are all like, Missouri's defense was soooo good! lol. Yeah I know we can be competitive with them even with their QB. Their offense isn't that great this year (at least it didnt' look good). I think the entire SEC is down this year (except for Bama), so beating Missouri doesn't mean much. I admit, it is better to have us win with their QB, but many of their fans think they will win 46-10 WITHOUT him lol. People don't pay attention to the FCS and people just don't realize that their is alot of parity between upper FCS and FBS. Upper FCS is much more equivalent to G5 and just doesn't get the appropriate respect.

With Dana's previous comments to the press, I totally believe he and his team will overlook YSU and be looking towards BYU
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2016, 09:17:26 AM
My guess is that 90% of WVU fans think we are a cupcake, and about 40% of the WVU message board fans will be aware that we are a threat and 20% of thise will know that under the right conditions we can upset them at their place.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
I went to see if they have a non-subscription message board.  They do, and we are referred to as a cupcake here:

http://wemustignitethiscouch.com/

 

 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2016, 09:45:00 AM
Oh, and we need to show some class and stop with the hillbilly and teeth jokes.  We have great fans and it sends the wrong message. Our message will be sent on the field just as we sent it two years ago when we beat Pitt's a$$ and never trailed in that game.

Their Missouri win was nothing to be proud of.  Missouri isn't that good and teams in our league would likely take down Missouri this year.  They may ultimately win the game but we will give them fits.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 05, 2016, 11:00:56 AM
We'll see how much of a cupcake we are come Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 05, 2016, 03:53:31 PM
Defensively W.V. starts 9 seniors and 2 Juniors. They lost alot on defense to graduation. They currently have a power ranking of #56 Nationally and finished the season last year around #30..I still consider them a lower 2 tier team in the Big 12. I think their starting QB definitely makes their offense go..They need him to play on Saturday
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 05, 2016, 04:47:41 PM
YSU spotted 24.5 on 5dimes with an over/under of 52.5

Massey gives YSU a 6% chance of winning and predicts a score of 14-38.

IMO the over/under is about right, but YSU seems like a really really good bet if given 24.5.

Just a thought about MVFC versus the P5.  NDSU has five straight FBS wins (four of which are P5).  NDSU has a two game win streak against the BIG and a three game win streak versus the Big 12.

UNI has defeated Iowa State 5 times since 1992 and three times since 2007.

SDSU defeated Kansas last year.

YSU defeated a P5 team in 2012.

So yeah....don't waste time prepping for a cupcake...
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 05, 2016, 06:51:58 PM
Both Minnesota and Northwestern better be ready because Indiana St. and Illinois St. will be. I'm most anxious to see what kind on game plan Shane Montgomery comes up with. After watching the Missouri game I think they will be tough to run on. This is a type of game where we need to get our TE's involved and throw down field
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2016, 07:58:36 PM
Damn, that is a large spread  ??? :o
Alright my fellow penguin fans, this has to get  you fired up. I predict a competitive and close game, nothing like any of the WVU fans (or even that spread). YSU has alot of upset potential in my opinion. Dana Holgorsen doesn't respect FCS schools. See
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/dana-holgorsen-wants-fbs-teams-to-stop-scheduling-fcs-opponents-175749897.html

Also, on this board, some of the fans are weary about the game (most don't think we stand a chance though):

http://westvirginia.247sports.com/Board/58/Contents/Youngstown-State-47233162
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2016, 08:07:16 PM
Power, you are right, we should try to get along with their fans. They aren't that far away from us. Plus, fans from any school can be rowdy.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 05, 2016, 08:34:13 PM
Yo, Holgorsen his staff and players are fully aware of the challenge that await them on Saturday. The fans not so much. Still it is never easy for a coaching staff to get their players up for playing a FCS opponent and the risk of losing and what it could do to a program is just not worth it
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 05, 2016, 09:01:42 PM
I would love to see a win but we have too many questions that need to be answered.  Will our WR's play the game of there life.  We now this is not a strength right now.  Lots of unproven talent.  We need a good showing from our TE's.  Don't see an Adams there.  Davis  will have to hit 70% of his throws to give us a chance.  How will he react playing in front of 60k and he can't just tuck it and run every play.  Ruiz needs 20+ carries, Webb needs to fill Stubbs role.  The wild card is Monty will we go up tempo to neutralize their athletes.  Our punter has 2 career punts don't see that sneaking past WV.  Will we keep WV from scoring on special teams?  We tend to give one of those up in these type of games.  Missouri took the deep ball away and defenses against against Wv's screen game.  Wv countered with a short to intermediate adjustment which we have been not able to defend that stuff.  They had almost 200 yds from there Rb's.  If we were a Tressel built tried and tested team . I saw we have a better shot..  Davis hasn't done enough for me to see us pulling out a surprise.  He is no Hess, zetts or even Ryan.  I hope he proves me wrong. Defense wins championships maybe our D will provide us the spark we need.  I just want us to get better.  Davis needs to get his reps and get better.  It's all about the conference and beating WV means Squanto if we don't do well in conference play.  The Pitt game was a wasted win after what happened the rest of season. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 05, 2016, 09:09:30 PM
YSUGO, you're right, it is too early to say for sure what we have with the YSU team, but I am hopeful. I still like our chances. Maybe I'm crazy though  :o
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 05, 2016, 09:35:51 PM
Yea I would like to steal one here.  Big time!
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 05, 2016, 09:42:02 PM
Missouri is no good.  We will give them a game.  Trust me.  If we run the QB we will cause all sorts of problems for them. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 05, 2016, 10:32:16 PM
D-Line needs to be able to stop the run to have a chance. Shell is a good back and they have a big line.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: DoubleE on September 05, 2016, 11:09:06 PM
Ill be tailgating in the gold lot on saturday. Anyone else get gold lot parking passes ?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 06, 2016, 08:35:06 AM
I would love to see a win but we have too many questions that need to be answered.  Will our WR's play the game of there life.  We now this is not a strength right now.  Lots of unproven talent.  We need a good showing from our TE's.  Don't see an Adams there.  Davis  will have to hit 70% of his throws to give us a chance.  How will he react playing in front of 60k and he can't just tuck it and run every play.  Ruiz needs 20+ carries, Webb needs to fill Stubbs role.  The wild card is Monty will we go up tempo to neutralize their athletes.  Our punter has 2 career punts don't see that sneaking past WV.  Will we keep WV from scoring on special teams?  We tend to give one of those up in these type of games.  Missouri took the deep ball away and defenses against against Wv's screen game.  Wv countered with a short to intermediate adjustment which we have been not able to defend that stuff.  They had almost 200 yds from there Rb's.  If we were a Tressel built tried and tested team . I saw we have a better shot..  Davis hasn't done enough for me to see us pulling out a surprise.  He is no Hess, zetts or even Ryan.  I hope he proves me wrong. Defense wins championships maybe our D will provide us the spark we need.  I just want us to get better.  Davis needs to get his reps and get better.  It's all about the conference and beating WV means Squanto if we don't do well in conference play.  The Pitt game was a wasted win after what happened the rest of season.
Good post YSUGO..Tucking it and running it against W.V. and at least 4 other conference oppenents will be a challenge unlike Duquesne. I wouldn't be surprised to see all 3 quarterbacks play in this game. We need to keep their defense off balanced as possible. Wells could be our best option for passing this Saturday, but it's time to see what Ricky can do throwing against a quality defense   
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 06, 2016, 11:52:06 AM
The Pitt game was a wasted win after what happened the rest of season.

Yep.  Trade that win for one against ILS or SDSU and the Guins make the playoffs.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 06, 2016, 12:18:57 PM
Anyone know where the folks selling extra tickets tend to congregate outside Milan Puskar Stadium?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Double ET on September 06, 2016, 12:47:25 PM
Power, you are right, we should try to get along with their fans. They aren't that far away from us. Plus, fans from any school can be rowdy.

I had breakfast with my friend this morning. He played TE for Missouri and he went to game last week. He said the older WVU fans were OK but the students were really rowdy. Some of their fans were apologizing for the bad behavior of the students.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 06, 2016, 04:04:53 PM
Power, you are right, we should try to get along with their fans. They aren't that far away from us. Plus, fans from any school can be rowdy.

I had breakfast with my friend this morning. He played TE for Missouri and he went to game last week. He said the older WVU fans were OK but the students were really rowdy. Some of their fans were apologizing for the bad behavior of the students.


Did you ever hear our student section? I cannot believe we do not get a sideline violation every game ... LOL Those guys are crazy ...crazy good. A little crude, so I would not recommend parents sit with the kids on that side.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Double ET on September 06, 2016, 05:19:40 PM
Power, you are right, we should try to get along with their fans. They aren't that far away from us. Plus, fans from any school can be rowdy.

I had breakfast with my friend this morning. He played TE for Missouri and he went to game last week. He said the older WVU fans were OK but the students were really rowdy. Some of their fans were apologizing for the bad behavior of the students.


Did you ever hear our student section? I cannot believe we do not get a sideline violation every game ... LOL Those guys are crazy ...crazy good. A little crude, so I would not recommend parents sit with the kids on that side.

Yes, I know. My son abandoned me (reserved seat) for couple of games to sit with the students when he was a student here. He said the cops got involved couple of times with warning.

My buddy said they were harassed by the students in the parking lot in WVU when his group of fans (all dressed in Missouri gears) walking into the students.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2016, 06:37:44 PM
Well darn. Looks like you were right Fever. According to this, they aren't sleeping on the penguins. Also of note, WVU did receive votes in the poll this week, albeit not getting ranked. Oh, and they called Derek Rivers a "nuisance" lol. I guess our chances are lower than I initially was thinking, as their starting QB will play on Saturday. Still going to be hopeful, but I guess we will see. One thing that will likely help, they just started preparing for Saturday's game today. Maybe the fact that we had more time will help a bit?

http://www.smokingmusket.com/2016/9/6/12816306/dana-holgorsen-press-conference-west-virginia-mountaineers-wvu-week-two-youngstown-state-penguins
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 06, 2016, 07:08:13 PM
Also of note from the Q&A: "Missouri laid back a bit and relied on the front four. Do you expect a few more looks from Youngstown State in terms of what they bring like blitz?"

"Umm... no... I mean, they yanno, they don't blitz a whole lot. And missouri could do it because they were so damn good, their DT's were anywhere from 305 to 365. A bit of a load, and 91 was disruptive. In Youngstown, I feel like, I mean their two ends are pretty active. So, if they are going to empty the box and keep their safeties deep, like they did against Duquense, we are going to run the ball about 99% of the time. So if they start getting those guys involved, they will bring a blitz off this edge (pointing right) or a blitz off this edge (pointing left), or they will bring their safeties down this way. We gotta identify what they are doing and we gotta be able to attack it in the appropriate way.

"What gets the FCS teams into trouble, they're scholarship players, their depth. I mean their starters are going to be.. not a whole lot different in talent, until you get down to the 2nd stringers. Thats what usually gets them, more than anything. Its not the frontline guys.

We gotta be really really really on guard with that, because our opportunities are not going to be great. They aren't going to come in here and try to do what Missouri did and try to run 100 plays, and have 15 or 16 possessions. It's what William and Mary did, it's what JMU did, it's what Liberty did, they are going to limit how many snaps we can get by what they do offensively. They are only defending about 55 snaps a game at Youngstown. That's why that JMU score was really close and William and Mary score was close as well."
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 06, 2016, 09:26:43 PM
Tweet from Charles Grove:

"Just got out of #YSUs press conf. Ricky Davis said the team showed almost none of their playbook against Duquesne but will show all vs WVU"

Their QB sounds like he's still not serviceable. Hurts to breathe and walk to class?  I'm sure getting plowed into the turf will be ok tho.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 06, 2016, 09:38:41 PM
Go ahead and underestimate our defense. Let's see how that works out for them.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nick on September 06, 2016, 11:39:51 PM
I plan on going to the game but I don't have a ticket yet.  Any suggestions on the best way to get a ticket at this point?  I live in Pittsburgh so it's only about 1.5 hours away.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 07, 2016, 03:59:26 AM
Their head coach called our defense, "extremely sound". As far as best way to get a ticket, Nick, I have no idea at this point. Actually.... just looked at stub hub, and tickets in the area I got tickets at are now cheaper than what I paid! I recommend looking at stubhub today. Man, thats nuts.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on September 07, 2016, 08:01:36 AM
 Optimistic is one thing, but from the comments on this board, you guys make it sound like we are playing a Division 3 school.  There is a reason we are a 25 point underdog.   The guys in Vegas making the line know what they are doing.

 West Virginia manhandled Missouri, which is an SEC team.  We have yet to prove anything,  don't get too overly excited about beating a team from the NEC.

Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysubigred on September 07, 2016, 08:28:18 AM
Optimistic is one thing, but from the comments on this board, you guys make it sound like we are playing a Division 3 school.  There is a reason we are a 25 point underdog.   The guys in Vegas making the line know what they are doing.

 West Virginia manhandled Missouri, which is an SEC team.  We have yet to prove anything,  don't get too overly excited about beating a team from the NEC.

But, but , but they were a playoff team from last year....  ;)
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 07, 2016, 09:56:15 AM
I am not saying we will win, bit Missouri is overrated along with a large group from the SEC.  WVU is big on the line and it will cause us some trouble, but we are better equipped with a decent defense than we've been in several years.  With a running QB I expect to give them some trouble
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 07, 2016, 11:03:06 AM
Optimistic is one thing, but from the comments on this board, you guys make it sound like we are playing a Division 3 school.  There is a reason we are a 25 point underdog.   The guys in Vegas making the line know what they are doing.

 West Virginia manhandled Missouri, which is an SEC team.  We have yet to prove anything,  don't get too overly excited about beating a team from the NEC.

But, but , but they were a playoff team from last year....  ;)
4 Missouri conference teams play 4 Big Sky opponents this week..why?..Because it is the second best conference behind ours and there looking to get votes when playoff selection comes around..I'm keeping a close eye on the Bobby Morris and Duquesne game's this weekend
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: guinpen on September 07, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Optimistic is one thing, but from the comments on this board, you guys make it sound like we are playing a Division 3 school.  There is a reason we are a 25 point underdog.   The guys in Vegas making the line know what they are doing.

 West Virginia manhandled Missouri, which is an SEC team.  We have yet to prove anything,  don't get too overly excited about beating a team from the NEC.

But, but , but they were a playoff team from last year....  ;)

And we were not a playoff team from last year
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 07, 2016, 08:12:55 PM
Actually, do you know that Vegas gets its money from the juice and not setting the line right? Its based on what the aggregate votes on (so herd knowledge of the two teams should be accurate for predicting the outcome, or in this case setting a line based on where things are bet on). That's why lines move based on betting. So a line could originally open up at +9 for Team A and -9 for Team B and the day of the game finish at -2 for Team A and +2 for Team B (although this is an extreme example, it has happened).

If not enough people have information (or even in some cases more people with wrong information), bet alot on the line in a certain direction then the line will move that way regardless. Vegas makes money off of every bet through the built in juice. Not the line itself. That being said, you are right, there is a reason the majority of people have us losing by that big a spread. All I know is, I bet on us last year when I took us at -14.5 from Pitt. We covered  ;D

Now in all seriousness, we probably wont win, and we may get blown out. I just don't know. I'm going to be optimistic and say we play fairly competitively and somewhat close. After all, the MVFC played alot of other FBS teams from the Big 12 and did well and the SEC is low this year (7 teams losing in week 1? Most since... 1992 the year I was born)!
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: guinpen on September 07, 2016, 08:16:30 PM
Optimistic is one thing, but from the comments on this board, you guys make it sound like we are playing a Division 3 school.  There is a reason we are a 25 point underdog.   The guys in Vegas making the line know what they are doing.

 West Virginia manhandled Missouri, which is an SEC team.  We have yet to prove anything,  don't get too overly excited about beating a team from the NEC.

But, but , but they were a playoff team from last year....  ;)
4 Missouri conference teams play 4 Big Sky opponents this week..why?..Because it is the second best conference behind ours and there looking to get votes when playoff selection comes around..I'm keeping a close eye on the Bobby Morris and Duquesne game's this weekend

The reason we schedule the teams that we schedule has been explained on this board many times. It is all about the money, until a bunch of folks donate enough money to override the demand/need for 6 home games nothing will change. Simple as that
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on September 08, 2016, 12:19:25 PM
I saw on the WVU message board that we are playing them in 2018.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 08, 2016, 12:27:49 PM
I saw on the WVU message board that we are playing them in 2018.

Yep, Pitt next year and WVU in 2018.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 08, 2016, 02:28:50 PM
I think these are make-ups ....we must have lost the Florida Atlantic game.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 08, 2016, 02:32:24 PM
Predictions ? Mine...

WVU- 28
YSU- 17
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: go guins on September 08, 2016, 03:35:04 PM
chief, I think you have the score about right, but the teams are backward:
YSU 28- WVU 17
I just hope I don't get a bee sting in EpiPen Statium!  Bandits!
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Double ET on September 08, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
Predictions ? Mine...

WVU- 28
YSU- 17
I was told that the game will be broadcasted on cable TV in the Pittsburgh area. I plan to visit Pittsburgh to watch the game on TV with my son.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: JP21 on September 08, 2016, 03:53:55 PM
The game is on Root Sports. Same channel that carried the WVU press conference and Pirates games.  Anyone that has Armstrong can see the game on channel 179.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Wick250 on September 08, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
For Time Warner in Youngstown, positions for that channel are 85, 307, or 1307. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Double ET on September 08, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
For Time Warner in Youngstown, positions for that channel are 85, 307, or 1307.
Thanks. I just tried, I have channel 1307 in TWC and it worked.
Does anyone know why that information was not provided by the university or the Vindicator to the fans? Several years ago, when we played Penn State and Ohio State, it was widely reported that the game would be on the big ten network. I watched the games in a sports bar. I finally got the channel and was able to watch the MSU and Illinois games.

Thanks again, Wick.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 08, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
I just cant see this offense with another 400 plus yards and 30 point game the way they did against Pitt last year even though both defense's are about equal in terms of talent and depth 27-13 W.V.U.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 08, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
Double ET, its on Root Sports Pittsburgh. I thought it was in the press releases, but I know I saw it on the WVU sides of the press releases on game information, if it isn't on the YSU side.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 08, 2016, 08:06:07 PM
And as already mentioned, it is a locally available cable channel in Youngstown, at least with Time warner. Although for me it is channel 85.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: JP21 on September 08, 2016, 09:41:03 PM
I notified the Vindicator that it's televised on Root Sports, so it should be in the paper tomorrow or Saturday.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 08, 2016, 09:51:28 PM
I plan on going to the game but I don't have a ticket yet.  Any suggestions on the best way to get a ticket at this point?  I live in Pittsburgh so it's only about 1.5 hours away.

StubHub tomorrow afternoon should be pretty cheap. I don''t think you'll have any problems just pick where you like.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 09, 2016, 10:11:15 AM
hilarious af!  ;D hahahahaha

http://www.wemustignitethiscouch.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=30864&forum=2
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 09, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
6 predicts a blowout.  I guess its all over  :D

http://www.ilovemorgantownwv.com/video-predicts-66240-episode-wvu-youngstown-state-university-football-game/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 09, 2016, 12:39:07 PM
LOL! Is that the biggest disgrace ever? Say ...wish ESPN had that kind of talent.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 09, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
My cautious optimism is totally sunk  :D ;D

Hype vid:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ilXvgsojnik
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Buddy on September 09, 2016, 04:08:27 PM
For the people who are going to the game what section are you sitting in?  Looking for a YSU friendly section...
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 09, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
I found an error that was preventing people from getting their email after registration ...thanks to Yo Show. I found there was about 7 WVU people that tried to register & I just accepted them. I thought it was odd that we had no new members in August, we usually pick up a few about the time camp gets rolling.

I would like to know just how much better Mountaineer fans think the team is now, then when Norfolk State had a good half against them. They may not follow our level, but Norfolk is not as good as Duquesne and we had all the reserves in.

They said that if we were NDSU, then they might worry. I mean same conference and we always do well against the Bison. Yes we self-destructed last year and blew a 21-point lead, but we do play at that same level. That being said, if the fans feel that the Mountaineers are an upper-half Big-IX team, than we are in for a long day ...but I am not convinced.

That being said, I think we have to play "vanilla". Davis is new, Ruiz looked good last week, but is he really healthy and thus should we save him until game 4? Or is he good to go now?

I am very happy with what I saw in Armande and Jayln at LB last week. Jayln was very excited. This week I hope they both settle down and shut down either the QB or RB. The are a big key to success tomorrow.

I say we will be less disruptive this week (on D) as we have to account for superior athletes than we faced last week
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: robmat2571 on September 09, 2016, 05:39:05 PM
Sitting in the Upper Level Gold Zone section 214 Row 17
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 09, 2016, 05:49:11 PM
section 218, row 23, seats 1-7 Way up top so it looks. Who else is going. I found out a few things ...

stubhub will continue to sell up until kick-off & they download right to your phone. So if you are hanging out for price, you are safe.

Students at WVU are free, so if you find some tickets and do not mind sitting in hostile territory ...enjoys a freebie!

Does anyone understand their blurb on tailgating? It reads like the colesium parking is free, with a charge to take the shuttle.

Weather looks hot and sticky for game with Rain expected at 7:35p

Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: WVUfan05 on September 09, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
I found an error that was preventing people from getting their email after registration ...thanks to Yo Show. I found there was about 7 WVU people that tried to register & I just accepted them. I thought it was odd that we had no new members in August, we usually pick up a few about the time camp gets rolling.

I would like to know just how much better Mountaineer fans think the team is now, then when Norfolk State had a good half against them. They may not follow our level, but Norfolk is not as good as Duquesne and we had all the reserves in.

They said that if we were NDSU, then they might worry. I mean same conference and we always do well against the Bison. Yes we self-destructed last year and blew a 21-point lead, but we do play at that same level. That being said, if the fans feel that the Mountaineers are an upper-half Big-IX team, than we are in for a long day ...but I am not convinced.

That being said, I think we have to play "vanilla". Davis is new, Ruiz looked good last week, but is he really healthy and thus should we save him until game 4? Or is he good to go now?

I am very happy with what I saw in Armande and Jayln at LB last week. Jayln was very excited. This week I hope they both settle down and shut down either the QB or RB. The are a big key to success tomorrow.

I say we will be less disruptive this week (on D) as we have to account for superior athletes than we faced last week

Took me a little while to find a forum for you guys. I think this is the only one

I'll keep things relatively short and simple unless you want in an depth look.

This is the deepest WVU has probably ever been offensively. Which is good because the coaches are able to redshirt a bunch of promising young talent.

Defensively was a bit of a mystery until the Missouri game. A bunch of kids who have been in the program but haven't necessarily started. They had two rough ACL injuries in the fall with the best player and safety in Dravon Henry and a 4 star true freshman linebacker that was pushing for a starting spot.

Overall it's viewed as an equal or better team than last year and it's thought to be 8 or 9 wins or bust for Holgorsen this year. I don't personally agree with that but it is what it is.

I don't know much about you guys other than what I've listened to from the coaches and their conferences. Although I was rooting for you guys when you played Pitt a few years back.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 09, 2016, 07:57:43 PM
I found an error that was preventing people from getting their email after registration ...thanks to Yo Show. I found there was about 7 WVU people that tried to register & I just accepted them. I thought it was odd that we had no new members in August, we usually pick up a few about the time camp gets rolling.

I would like to know just how much better Mountaineer fans think the team is now, then when Norfolk State had a good half against them. They may not follow our level, but Norfolk is not as good as Duquesne and we had all the reserves in.

They said that if we were NDSU, then they might worry. I mean same conference and we always do well against the Bison. Yes we self-destructed last year and blew a 21-point lead, but we do play at that same level. That being said, if the fans feel that the Mountaineers are an upper-half Big-IX team, than we are in for a long day ...but I am not convinced.

That being said, I think we have to play "vanilla". Davis is new, Ruiz looked good last week, but is he really healthy and thus should we save him until game 4? Or is he good to go now?

I am very happy with what I saw in Armande and Jayln at LB last week. Jayln was very excited. This week I hope they both settle down and shut down either the QB or RB. The are a big key to success tomorrow.

I say we will be less disruptive this week (on D) as we have to account for superior athletes than we faced last week

Took me a little while to find a forum for you guys. I think this is the only one

I'll keep things relatively short and simple unless you want in an depth look.

This is the deepest WVU has probably ever been offensively. Which is good because the coaches are able to redshirt a bunch of promising young talent.

Defensively was a bit of a mystery until the Missouri game. A bunch of kids who have been in the program but haven't necessarily started. They had two rough ACL injuries in the fall with the best player and safety in Dravon Henry and a 4 star true freshman linebacker that was pushing for a starting spot.

Overall it's viewed as an equal or better team than last year and it's thought to be 8 or 9 wins or bust for Holgorsen this year. I don't personally agree with that but it is what it is.

I don't know much about you guys other than what I've listened to from the coaches and their conferences. Although I was rooting for you guys when you played Pitt a few years back. 



Thanks for joining the forum.

About us:  We have a decent team,strength is the defense.  We were one of the best in the FCS last year and we should be even better this year.  Offensively we don't know what we have at QB and WR.  Both don't have a ton of experience.  The OL may be the biggest we've had tackle to tackle.  Our running backs are excellent.  Webb is a speed back and Ruiz is a power back.  We don't throw enough to our TE's and it is irritating.  On the DL we have a possible 1st round defensive end.  The other was the B1G freshman of the year.  The DB's are fast and good.  Special teams punting is a question mark.  I think you guys win, but we wont make it easy. This will be a nice tune up for both teams.  We play in the Missouri Valley Conference and it is the most difficult in the FCS.  Over the past few years ranked higher than the MAC and Sunbelt.  We lost several close games last year, something like 4 games by a total of 7 points.  The OL was a mess last year, but they have more depth this year.


Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: WVUfan05 on September 09, 2016, 08:11:59 PM
I know about Pelini and his time at Nebraska. His defenses are always stout.

I read through the topic a bit and I will tell you one thing, there will be no overlooking this game. Holgorsen and Gibson (defensive coordinator) have repeatedly beat it into the players heads that this is not going to be a push over.

The defense that Tony Gibson runs, 3-3-5 stack, usually has it's way with shaky or first time QB's. Now that's not to say that your quarterback is but I'm just kind of interpreting what you mean when you say you don't know what you have.

The 3-3-5 is aggressive and he loves to blitz. 3 down lineman, 3 linebackers and 5 defensive backs. Although one of the safeties is a LB hybrid and plays more near the line of scrimmage.

If you guys have any other in depth questions I'll be happy to answer.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 09, 2016, 08:57:50 PM
I know about Pelini and his time at Nebraska. His defenses are always stout.

I read through the topic a bit and I will tell you one thing, there will be no overlooking this game. Holgorsen and Gibson (defensive coordinator) have repeatedly beat it into the players heads that this is not going to be a push over.

The defense that Tony Gibson runs, 3-3-5 stack, usually has it's way with shaky or first time QB's. Now that's not to say that your quarterback is but I'm just kind of interpreting what you mean when you say you don't know what you have.


The 3-3-5 is aggressive and he loves to blitz. 3 down lineman, 3 linebackers and 5 defensive backs. Although one of the safeties is a LB hybrid and plays more near the line of scrimmage.

If you guys have any other in depth questions I'll be happy to answer.


We run a base 4-2 or 4-3 but flex into a 3-3 or 3-4 depending on down,distance scheme etc.  Our DL Rivers can play LB too, he is explosive and very fast so he slides out sometimes at LB.  What have you heard on your QB?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 09, 2016, 08:59:40 PM
I'll be there. Looking forward to this trip! Thinking a 30-17 type score as a prediction.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 09, 2016, 09:19:54 PM
Welcome to the board WVUfan05. Yeah my question is the same as power. From what I've heard it seems like your qb will be starting?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: WVUfan05 on September 09, 2016, 09:24:50 PM



We run a base 4-2 or 4-3 but flex into a 3-3 or 3-4 depending on down,distance scheme etc.  Our DL Rivers can play LB too, he is explosive and very fast so he slides out sometimes at LB.  What have you heard on your QB?

As far as we know he's good to go.

It was a non-contact injury and there's supposedly no threat for further injury. So if he can take the pain he'll play as much as he can.

I do feel that it limits using him in the run game but the kid is extremely tough.

The only thing that will be different that the coaches talked about doing was getting the true freshman RB a little more in the rotation.

The two starters are a former 5 star recruit Rushel Shell who is a more physical back and Justin Crawford, a JUCO All American and a do it all speed guy. The freshman, Kennedy McKoy, turned heads in the Spring and Fall. He got a little wide eyed in very limited stats against Missouri but he's going to see a lot more playing time on Saturday.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: soundman on September 10, 2016, 11:31:03 AM
Hello Penguins, I thought I wasn't going to get to put my 2 cents worth in 'till after the game, but here goes. I don't look for a blowout, and here's why. I think the coach is going to use this game as an opportunity to build depth. I look for a fairly vanilla offense with a lot of subs after a comfortable lead. Here's to an entertaining, injury free game. I'm looking forward to a show being put on by our O line and running backs since Howard is a little dinged up. Let's say 35 to 10 kind of game. Good luck after today with the rest of your schedule.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 10, 2016, 12:12:40 PM
Indeed soundman, I too hope for good sportsmanship on both sides and no injuries for either team. Although, I have to say, I'm rooting for the Penguins  8) GOOOOO GUINS!  fb
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: WVUfan05 on September 10, 2016, 12:56:05 PM
Regardless of the outcome I hope you guys that are traveling enjoy the game.

I never really gave a prediction because I'm not into that sort of thing but I'll throw out a score line of 38-17


Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 10, 2016, 01:14:52 PM
IMO, this is the best team we've fielded in well over a decade.  It was the #1 FCS pass D in 2015, and its better this year.

I think some of the grandiose predictions are based on the belief that the MVFC is just another FCS conference.  The second overall draft pick and the Eagles rookie starter was from the MVFC.  The MVFC would be more appropriately placed as a G5 conference. As was said, we have a first round pick in our defense.  The only recent P5 blowout was at the hands of Sparty the year they were undefeated in BIG play, won the Rose Bowl, and finished 3rd in BCS polling.  I think most WVU fans would concede they are not on par with the 2013 Spartans.  Otherwise, the margins of defeat versus P5 in the last four years was 8 and 11 points, and of course there was the win at Pitt in 2012.

Any given saturday anything can happen.  USD beat NDSU last year, and could beat us this year.  I think it'll be a competitive game.  As Yo said, the spread is based on betting, not on an in-depth actuarial determination of probability.  24.5 points, IMO, is nuts, but who knows.  Although a W is not out of the question, I would say the Penguins lose by 11.

I know Holgorsen said he dislikes these games, but I'd like to see them alternate every other year with Pitt.

Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
Jodi Webb is out.  Injury
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2016, 01:59:00 PM
Where is Hannon?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 10, 2016, 02:05:35 PM
Where is Hannon?

He said last week he had a family event with his son.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 10, 2016, 02:05:58 PM
Hannon is at his sons induction to westminster sports hall of fame. Sucks we dont have jody.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 10, 2016, 02:09:31 PM
Boom.  dont f with our pass D.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
Our receivers run garbage routes half assed
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: The YO Show on September 10, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
Still early in the game. They could pick it up. The defense is doing good
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: WVUfan05 on September 10, 2016, 05:51:41 PM
Hard fought game.

I think your depth hurt you guys in the second half. Not having the bodies to rotate in and out is rough

Good luck to you guys the rest of the season
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2016, 06:11:11 PM
Hard fought game.

I think your depth hurt you guys in the second half. Not having the bodies to rotate in and out is rough

Good luck to you guys the rest of the season

Good luck to the Eers.  Watch foe us in the scores each week
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Wick250 on September 10, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
With their style of play, WVU is just a magnet for extremely fast, talented skilled athletes on the offensive side of the ball.  Inevitably, complaints will begin about the failure of our defensive backs today.  The reason was simple.  They just got beat by superior athletes.  The good thing is that no team in our conference has that kind of speed and talent in their receivers.  I thought that the run defense was quite acceptable, especially when you consider that the front six were out of necessity entirely on their own.

If we play like this all year, we can take down anybody on the FCS level.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: guinpen on September 10, 2016, 06:54:45 PM
Hard fought game.

I think your depth hurt you guys in the second half. Not having the bodies to rotate in and out is rough

Good luck to you guys the rest of the season

And also to you
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: soundman on September 10, 2016, 07:01:35 PM
Good game Penguins, y'all surprised me and played tougher than I thought you would. You guys should do well the rest of the way, good luck and again, good game.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 10, 2016, 07:13:46 PM
Good game Penguins, y'all surprised me and played tougher than I thought you would. You guys should do well the rest of the way, good luck and again, good game.

You guys have some nice WR's and a good QB.  You will be good this year and deserve a ranking.  I think we are underrated in the FCS. 

I compared box score form the Missouri game and we were comparable.  The second half hurt us due to depth.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 10, 2016, 07:21:46 PM
Very proud of the Penguins effort. I really like what I seen today going forward into conference play. Looking ahead Robert Morris was shut out today by Dayton and only had 75 yards of total offense. Just finished watching the South Dakota game and they won in double overtime 52-49 over Weber St. and scored 21 unanswered in the 4th to send it to overtime and Illinois St. beat Northwestern 9-7..UNI is in a dogfight with Montana and NDSU finds away yet again in overtime 50-44 over Eastern Washington
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 10, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
Hard fought game. Just too much pace vs our defense. Gotta let the backups play next week and rest up during the bye and get ready for conference play.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: coachtress on September 10, 2016, 08:56:09 PM
I thought we fought hard.  And loved the red pants making a comeback on the road unis.  First time in five years we have worn red pants.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 10, 2016, 11:01:32 PM
They did a good job double teaming Rivers and going after Bishop at DB... And that PI call late after YSU made it 31-21 was BS.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Buddy on September 10, 2016, 11:24:46 PM
We played well.  Got beat too many times with the deep ball.  Our corners need to play better.

All in all I was happy.. Refs suck as usual.

Gotta sat the WV fans were great people. Everyone I met was very nice.  We sat in the middle of the WV fans and had fun.  No issues. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 10, 2016, 11:31:42 PM
Just got back & it is fun. Learned a great deal today, but still will need to wait for conference. AS to the talk about DB's, yes their WR's were quick, but even when we pulled a safety over, neither them ever even turned around...despite having one in front and one in back. WVU had only 2 sustained drives against us ..one for TD the other a missed FG. We are Still giving a million yards on first down. Special teams vastly improved this week. Like the personnel adjustments, especially on O, coach Shane calls a better game up top. He adjusted the balance of the line and brought in Hosick, probably one series too late, but nice to see it. WVU fans were great. Night
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 11, 2016, 08:40:45 AM
Our receivers run garbage routes half assed
Plus we need to do a better job of catching the ball. That's why we are playing two quarterbacks that can run and the quarterback with the best arm and throwing ability is riding the bench
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: mayor on September 11, 2016, 08:59:14 AM
Think Shane and our offense did really good against a Big 12 opponent. Alvin Bailey is a great WR. Losing Webb yesterday hurt us a lot. Unfortunate to see Ricky get injured. I hope he's okay."
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 11, 2016, 09:33:31 AM
I think Ricky played REALLY GOOD YESTERDAY!! There is know doubt he is a tough kid and great team leader. His receivers just need to do a better job. Of his 15 incompletion's not all were his fault. Even though it was a big 12 oppenent the 40% completion rate needs to improve heading into conference play especially since we showed the other teams so much of our offense yesterday. I think Trent will be playing more in the near future, how much remains to be seen. I to hope Ricky is okay, but there is really know need for him to play this week. Let him get healthy and guard against injury heading into the S.D. game
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 11, 2016, 09:45:02 AM
Does anyone know what happened to him?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 11, 2016, 09:48:42 AM
Take a few drops away and it'd be a different game.

Next week we play a hapless 0-2 NEC team, and other than resting injured players, it'll set us back.  Kent, who would pay us >$300k to play 45 minutes away, just lost to a MEAC team (ranked below YSU)  at home.  Scheduling malpractice.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penquin68 on September 11, 2016, 10:22:57 AM
Was at the game. Really hot which I think hurt us on the defensive front.  Pass defense is what did us in for the most part.  For the level of opponent I think our offence was ok and our run defense ok. Special teams was a pleasant surprise.

I know our defensive coaches are really top notch so I guess they thought we needed to play man most of the time and single coverage on some really tall fast receivers.  Maybe that is what made our run defense as good as it was.

As for their fans I think they were great.  Treated really well. My worst experience was the 99 championship game again Georgia Southern; really bad.  The OSU fans were not great for sure the 2 times in Columbus. Also the South Dakota fans were really nice out there.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: HappyPenguin on September 11, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
WVU has tremendous skill and speed at WR. They are all over NFL rosters. Don't be too discouraged.

The WVU QB dropped some perfect balls on those deep routes, tip of the hat to him not much you can do there.

Otherwise we held our own all other phases.

If Ricky is out then that's a bigger loss than just getting an L in the W-L column. It will also to be amusing to watch us get less votes in the polls which happens after every one of these games.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 11, 2016, 10:36:40 AM
We have a long way to go to being a championship team. A few drops really. Hell we almost got picked 6 twice .  We were lucky.  Our QB play was mediocre and they even dummied down the offense for Davis.  Run Run Ricky can't be the whole offense. We missed Webb big play abiiity.  I listened to the press conference and Pelini hit it on the nose they need to coach better.  Missouri played a deep cover 2 to limit Wv going long on them.  Made them throw underneath.  What did we do. Not that.  Even Alexander said they bit time after time on the run fake and left the CB's on an island by themselves.  We never adjusted to that. Too many third and longs. This is a 6 or7 win team at best unless we get better play from The Secondary which trust me the conference took notes on this game at QB.  Vanilla offense QB locks on WR 1. Needs work on Reading Defenses and at the first sight of trouble runs , which the opponents will want.  Oh Rb's or average no Homerun threat there and what happened to Ruiz he always got better as the game went on.  WRs mediocre on getting separation other than the big play and a few to Scott.  Punter did good.  Why no bubble screens that would help on early downs get positive yardage etc.  Our QB play and WR play hasn't improved other than they are mobile.  We have the bullsh** game next week then it gets serious.  Sorry I want us to win but what I saw was not what gonna get us to the playoffs. 







Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: peteonastick on September 11, 2016, 10:39:23 AM
Other than the deep balls we played great.  Too much depth to run around in that heat hurt us.  Overall was very pleased with the tenacity and not backing down to the pushing and shoving attitude of the WR and DB from WVU.  Nice to see a little chip on the shoulder.  Going to be an interesting run through the conference this year.  Hosick looked good, not having Webb hurt also.  Very pleased with the defense against the run..very few sustained drives. 

GO GUINS
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Buddy on September 11, 2016, 10:45:13 AM
Some takeaways I saw. 

Davis throws too high for the most part.  Misses open receivers.  Never looks for #2 guy and takes off running too quick.  He will be hurt bad before end of season.

Not sure why Wells has not played at all.  WV pass defense was not good.  Could have passed all over them.

Our secondary needs work.  Corners never look back for the ball.  I noticed this last week.  Man coverage is fine if CBs are good. 

We still do not seem to make adjustments at halftime.  Played a good first half and made no changes for second.  We lost the second half and the game.  Sound familiar?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 AM
The Bison are the measuring stick for me.  Should be for us. But no playoffs have caused us to not expect much.  Yea we played WV tough but we are a ways away. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 11, 2016, 11:01:10 AM
We gave up 600+ yards.  WV is good but they aren't the Buckeyes.  Do u think That that the Bison and even Northern Iowa would find that acceptable. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Double ET on September 11, 2016, 11:20:16 AM
Watched the game on tv. Agree with the all comments by other. We know Wells can pass but cannot run; Davis can pass and can run; Hosick can run, can pass and can pass during run but threw an int.

I like to see more of Hosick next game and I hope he could look of the DB and would also be able to find other receivers. Davis still locked the primary receiver. Lack of depth hurted the defense in the second half when our offense could not mount any drives in the 3Q.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 11, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
Here is a link from WV. 

http://wvmetronews.com/2016/09/11/holgorsen-exhales-gibby-fumes-as-wvu-wins-modestly/
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Buddy on September 11, 2016, 11:48:28 AM
I am still surprised Wells has not seen the field.  I would like to see him play next week.  I do not think the running QBs will survive the season. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 11, 2016, 12:00:41 PM
The more I see of Trent the more I think he should start.  Both QBs are very good.  Davis has not thrown a pic last year or this year, and was the leading rusher yesterday, but I didn't think he was a single read QB until yesterday, and his passes were high.  His TD passes Vs Duquesne were from the pocket, and I think the criticism that he is a tuck and run QB is not accurate.  But Trent has shown he can move the ball.  One pic can be forgiven.  After those two, I'd groom Nathan for the future.  If Wells was in, WVU would've left lanes open and blitzed him, if they studied old film on him, and it wouldn't have been pretty. 
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: YSUGO on September 11, 2016, 12:08:37 PM
Well let's just hope the QB's keep improving.  I agree with you Penguin Nation for the most part. It's just hard to get an accurate assessment with how we schedule before league.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Grapestreet on September 11, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
 The WVU fans was outstanding and yes it was hot but its been hot all summer. The boys need to hydrate. We had them beat as did we have Pitt Beat.  I think McCaster is the future and Ricky was fine. some misreads yes but ok. We have to get the secondary right. Other teams will watch the film and air it out going forward. We had no pass rush on the defensive side of the ball and  I could have stood back there and threw 5 TD's.  GO GUINS!
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 11, 2016, 12:27:48 PM
Well let's just hope the QB's keep improving.  I agree with you Penguin Nation for the most part. It's just hard to get an accurate assessment with how we schedule before league.


Agree.  RMU will not expose any weaknesses that will need to be addressed before MVFC play.

Maybe its a down year for the conference.  UNI lost.  NDSU w/ 2 OT wins.  A lot of things are lining up well for us this year to do well in the MVFC.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 11, 2016, 12:49:07 PM
Illinois St beat Northwestern yesterday.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Buddy on September 11, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
I would again like to comment on the fans at WVU.

Prior to the game all we heard was they were bad fans.  I had friends who did not wear Penguins shirts.

We were happy to find out their fans were great people.  From the time we arrived we were greeted with respect.  We talk to several people in the lot and  received only good wishes.  We sat surrounded by WVU fans.  All were great people. We cheered.. They cheered.  No bad comments.

When we were leaving our car would not start. Several people asked if we needed help.

My point of this is there really were not many people from YSU there and I hope the BS that was being spread about their fans being bad did not keep them from attending. 

Had a great time and will go next time we play there!!!!!
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ValleyTalk on September 11, 2016, 04:47:50 PM
Could not agree more with Buddy. From the second we got out of our cars at the Coliseum, everyone was very nice and hospitable. Great group of fans. I would say the only exception would be the ones right next to the YSU band. I noticed our band director was getting quite upset with a few. However, a vast majority were excellent people.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 11, 2016, 05:35:34 PM
So right Buddy. The fans just said to stay out of the student section and that is what we did. Did you ever hear so may compliments about our play form the enemy? Did you guys see how cordial the WVU players were after the game? Lots of hugs and handshakes. A couple of co-op prayers and everyone headed to the lockers. I will be happy to go back in 2-years. I did have to laugh though as this guy said he was out parading his daughters to find husbands and offering moonshine. The one was a little plump, with x-short Daisy Dukes and cowboy boots. Up until then I did forget I was in WVa.   :)
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 11, 2016, 06:07:54 PM
Illinois St beat Northwestern yesterday.
Overall a pretty good day for our conference going 7-3 against quality opponents. I'm still thinking the 2 best defenses we will face will be Illinois st. and Northern Iowa. However their offenses seem to be struggling early on
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: penguinpower on September 11, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
Illinois St beat Northwestern yesterday.
Overall a pretty good day for our conference going 7-3 against quality opponents. I'm still thinking the 2 best defenses we will face will be Illinois st. and Northern Iowa. However their offenses seem to be struggling early on


Good summary.  I agree.  NDSU has an "it" factor because they refuse to lose.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: robmat2571 on September 11, 2016, 06:44:07 PM
We had a GREAT time at WVU.  100% will go back in two years.  The tailgate lot was so much fun.  They offered us shots, food, beers, Cider... we played corn hole and just had a GREAT time.  During the game some obnoxious YSU fan started cursing and making obscene gestures towards the WVU fans.  When I, wearing my red and white, asked him to sit down and behave... me and my group became instant royalty.  Just like everything in life... treat others as you would like to be treated.  Kudos to you WVU... I'll be back and rooting for you guys in the Big 12!
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ELPENGUIN on September 11, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
We were seated behind the YSU band but next to a student section.  Many obnoxious students very drunk and rowdy. No sign of police or ushers to control this bunch. Could have been a scene but most of the YSU fans ignored the comments. Late in the game one fan was being thrown out. He was a YSU student and I thought to myself "why don't you throw out the WVU students too".  But I knew the answer to that. On the way out of the game one of our group almost went over to the WVU student to get involved but cooler heads prevailed.

On the other hand we were greeted with good wishes from those in the purple tailgate lot and a few in the stadium. We appreciated their respect for us.  Found a great place to eat and drink called the Varsity Club. Although we had to wait to enter by being placed on a list, once inside the food and drink were excellent and we were treated to a round of drinks from a WVU fan named Butch who was a hoot but a great fan who made a big deal about the football game and us coming from Youngstown.  He treated us like family and I would say we appreciated his and his friends hospitality.  Now if the students would have only behaved it would have been 100% pleasant.  Don't know if I will return to that atmosphere in the stands.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ELPENGUIN on September 11, 2016, 09:21:43 PM
Listened to the post game press show on the radio.  Coach Holgorsen was very kind and said good things about our effort. A couple of comments from him.  He thought we were well prepared and YSU came to play and it took a half to wake WVU up. The long passes for TD's were a result of our safeties having to come up to support our linebackers who could not plug the run holes.  Once they kept edging up, and they were involved in run stopping, and there was no threat of a blitz, their QB was able to launch his passes over our heads. he thought his team was conditioned well in the heat (none of WVU player had leg cramps) and it was just a matter of time when WVU would wear us down.  He was not happy with some calls from the officials but refused to comment on calls against YSU.  There were other comments but he seemed honest and fair in his press conference and heaped a lot of praise on YSU and said he knows we will have a successful season - we are good.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: pennyguin1 on September 11, 2016, 09:36:55 PM
My twin and I were at the WVU game yesterday. Let me say we parked at the Coliseum and walked to the stadium of course we were in the tailgate lot. I found the WVU fans very welcoming. We talked to alot of their fans(and even sat with me). Their fans offered us food and beverage. Really great people. They do love their football team. Highlight of the day was: getting our picture taken with the Mountaineer. FYI I was the one who was carrying a stuff Pete the Penguin

As for the game. I thought we played well the 1,2, and 4th quarter. We really need to play a 4 qtr game.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 12, 2016, 12:27:35 PM
Looked like there were quite a few empty seats.  Were there a lot of folks selling extra tickets before the game?
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: pennyguin1 on September 12, 2016, 12:44:25 PM
I saw quite a few people trying to get rid of their tickets. Not too many needing to buy tickets.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 12, 2016, 02:03:08 PM
Holgorsen speaking of Moss and Rivers... As if we didn't already know but high praise nonetheless.


Dana Holgorsen: "These two cats that we played against from Youngstown State were as good of pass rushers as I’ve seen."

Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 12, 2016, 04:00:49 PM
I'm not trying to prove a point but asking because I truly don't know. The consensus seems to be that our players tired out because WVU could sub out frequently and YSU couldn't, thus the meltdown starting late in Q2.  We could sub out, but with second team non or partial scholly players, right?  I've heard a fresh mediocre player is always better than a fatigued star player. The meltdown continued despite halftime in a climate controlled locker room, and then with the YSU offense on the field first consuming 2.5 minutes.  I would think that'd allow the D time to get a second wind.  Obviously, the WVU players played in identical conditions as YSU players, and no WVU players had cramps from what I recall.  All of this is with the back ground of prior second half meltdowns, like the NDSU game last year, where heat obviously wasn't an issue.

I totally buy that WVU made adjustments that we didn't.  Monty sucks.  But it sure seems like we may have issues with strength and conditioning, and players unable to perform for a full game.  Is that a legit gripe?

Compare WVU's first five drives versus the last seven.



WVU     1st    W25    15:00    Kickoff    Y38    14:08         Interception    4-37    0:52     
WVU     1st    W20    10:14    Punt    W44    08:21         Punt    5-24    1:53     
WVU     1st    W20    05:59    Punt    Y00    03:16    *    TOUCHDOWN    8-80    2:43     
WVU     2nd    W23    13:42    Kickoff    Y47    11:30         Punt    5-30    2:12     
WVU     2nd    W09    10:07    Kickoff    W36    07:36         Punt    8-27    2:31
   
 
WVU     2nd    W14    05:24    Punt    Y00    03:15    *    TOUCHDOWN    6-86    2:09     
WVU     2nd    W35    00:51    Punt    Y13    00:00         Missed FG    7-52    0:51    #
WVU     3rd    W14    12:31    Punt    Y00    09:26    *    TOUCHDOWN    9-86    3:05    #
WVU     3rd    W20    07:32    Punt    Y15    02:50    *    FIELD GOAL    14-65    4:42    #
WVU     3rd    W43    01:49    Punt    Y00    01:40    *    TOUCHDOWN    1-57    0:09     
WVU     4th    W01    13:36    Punt    W08    12:02         Punt    3-7    1:34     
WVU     4th    W25    08:44    Kickoff    Y00    05:37    *    TOUCHDOWN    7-75    3:07     
WVU     4th    W28    02:12    Interception    W40    00:00         End of half    4-12    2:12
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 12, 2016, 05:00:25 PM
Good point Nation..Look, W.V. is good, but there know elite team currently in the top 20 or even close to it. I too question the conditioning of the team. We have changed strength and conditioning coaches and trainers as of late. It was hot at Northwestern, Illinois st. didn't have a problem. It was extremely hot at Iowa St, Northern Iowa didn't have a problem. The same could also be said for the other 5 FCS programs that have beat FBS opponents. The FCS team that lost to Georgia by 2 points this past weekend has the same amount of scholarships as we do or maybe even less..I don't like the depth issue excuse
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2016, 05:37:40 PM
I like that point Fever. Coach Carl's defenses are much less motion-oriented then several of his predecessors. So it is not as if they are more active than before. Although motion might be something we should consider adding. We would probably not have to bring up our safeties, outside of designed blitzes.

On offense, Davis was so "scrappy" even the opposing coaches remarked at the half. We just gave away the first 2-drives with stupid mistakes (almost turn over, then dropped pass and penalty) . The defense gave us stops and we did not take advantage.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 12, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
Just out of curiosity I looked at 2015 scores by quarter, and in nearly all MVFC games, we fade.  Some examples (numbers are scoring margins by quarter, ie, +3 = YSU outscored opponent by 3 points):

NDSU:  +7/+4/+3/-17

WIU:     +3/+3/-4/0

SIU:      0/+7/+1/-8/-7 (OT)

SDSU:   -5/-7/-4/-14

Definitely a pattern of fizzing out.



Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: IAA Fan on September 12, 2016, 06:03:38 PM
I just looked at the on field thermometer and it did read a game high 128-degrees in relative temperature.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Nation on September 12, 2016, 06:17:51 PM
Weather in Ytown during NDSU game last year.

Weather: Partly Cloudy
Temperature: 45
Wind: W 10 mph
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: Penguin Ice on September 12, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
Listened to the post game press show on the radio.  Coach Holgorsen was very kind and said good things about our effort. A couple of comments from him.  He thought we were well prepared and YSU came to play and it took a half to wake WVU up. The long passes for TD's were a result of our safeties having to come up to support our linebackers who could not plug the run holes.  Once they kept edging up, and they were involved in run stopping, and there was no threat of a blitz, their QB was able to launch his passes over our heads. he thought his team was conditioned well in the heat (none of WVU player had leg cramps) and it was just a matter of time when WVU would wear us down.  He was not happy with some calls from the officials but refused to comment on calls against YSU.  There were other comments but he seemed honest and fair in his press conference and heaped a lot of praise on YSU and said he knows we will have a successful season - we are good.

You bring up a good point about the safeties having to come up. It was obvious that we weren't getting any push up the middle from our LB. would a switch to a 3-4 defense have helped.
Title: Re: YSU vs WVU
Post by: ysuguins4 on September 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
I saw quite a few people trying to get rid of their tickets. Not too many needing to buy tickets.

Thanks for the info.