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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: YSUGO on November 21, 2015, 07:56:13 PM
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Very disappointed. Thoughts?
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don't waste your time with a decent thread, it will be infested with people who do not realize I can see their IP addresses & that most are the same person. Yet his solution is always the same ...worthless.
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Here is what should be next: Real discussion by AD to look at leaving MVFC If we went to CAA I think it could be a good start for more butts in the seats. As far what is next for the team: new OC, New QB and for adding talent to special teams.
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We're not leaving MVFC, so forget that idea!!!
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Fire OC.
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Drop down to D2.
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As I see it we were competitive in all but the SDSU game. Special teams and offence need some changes but we could have easily won 2 or three more. Changes are needed and 2016 should be a good year
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Here is what should be next: Real discussion by AD to look at leaving MVFC If we went to CAA I think it could be a good start for more butts in the seats. As far what is next for the team: new OC, New QB and for adding talent to special teams.
This is exactly what should happen. The MVFC is the downfall of YSU and we will never compete year in and year out with the top teams. NDSU has no problem recruiting even after a head coaching change.
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Where can I find future scheduling. ...thank you
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Here is what should be next: Real discussion by AD to look at leaving MVFC If we went to CAA I think it could be a good start for more butts in the seats. As far what is next for the team: new OC, New QB and for adding talent to special teams.
This is exactly what should happen. The MVFC is the downfall of YSU and we will never compete year in and year out with the top teams. NDSU has no problem recruiting even after a head coaching change.
You can't be the best if you can't beat the best.
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Such a disappointing year. Did we not easily have the talent to finish 7-4 at the absolute worst? I know it was a standard company line, but reading comments from the players before the ISU game bothered me.
"We are getting better" "We are making progress"??
What?
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We all know what needs to happen....
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stop looking for quick solutions.
- Jones would be a terrible grab for YSU. If (and that is HUGE if) we needed a transfer QB, it would not be a 1-year guy.
- Firing your OC is also another hopeful quick fix ...stupid solution. Then you will expect some big-named guy (like the fatman) to waltz in and create miracles; firing him after 1-year when he doesn't. Everyone has seen YSU offenses at the top of the conference for several years & knows what coach M can do.
- I expect several things in the off-season:
1. Montgomery and Bricillo better recruit no less than 2 more OL people that can contribute. This is the one area that we might be able to use a couple of transfers. We need depth. Get JUCO guys or IA transfers with 2-years of eligibility remaining.
2. I expect a full-back in camp. You can find one that catches the ball.
3. I expect to see more depth in the defensive game preparation and some depth. The previous staff destroyed our top-ranked defense put in place by coach H. So, we must now start over. Start from scratch with a base defense and work to improve. NO QUICK FIXES! Focusing on an opposing team's strengths is not developing a defense. It just gets you embarrassed when an opposing team makes minor shift's in offense and kilss you with big plays. Good defense cannot be all or nothing, they have to adapt ...far, far, far more than the offense.
4. We need to develop more of an over the top or crossing pass game on offense, yes I know this starts with the line and QB, but I am hoping with Montgomery, Carm and Pearson we can get this worked out.
5. HIRE A SPECIAL TEAMS COACH !!!!!! You cannot even show me one on the roster. 2 dang defensive coordinators and no special teams coach? Gee can you tell?
6. We have good receivers, but we lose stubbs, disher and wiliams ...no time to waste.
7. We lose zaborsky and kromah ...we need some people up front on D. Assuming we recover from injuries ...we have only 3.
Just a few things off the top of my head. I will develop more when the season is further behind me.
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Here is what should be next: Real discussion by AD to look at leaving MVFC If we went to CAA I think it could be a good start for more butts in the seats. As far what is next for the team: new OC, New QB and for adding talent to special teams.
This is exactly what should happen. The MVFC is the downfall of YSU and we will never compete year in and year out with the top teams. NDSU has no problem recruiting even after a head coaching change.
You can't be the best if you can't beat the best.
That's really gotten YSU far since they came into the league. When you have 4 to 6 loses a year in a tough league this will continue to happen. The travel is too much and people aren't interested in watching the Dakota schools.
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Since we joined this conference it's been our Achilles to a slow death to mediocrity. With the addition of all the Dakotas to the conference it has hurt us even more. For one we don't recruit THEIR states and we don't have any rivalries and can't travel to the games. So all we are to them is a slot on the schedule. Officiating is poor and the TV network sucks. We are being used and honestly I think they could careless if we stayed. We need to go CAA OVC or NEC. NEC we would be the big fish and maybe we could find a couple schools to join with us.
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As I see it we were competitive in all but the SDSU game. Special teams and offence need some changes but we could have easily won 2 or three more. Changes are needed and 2016 should be a good year
I agree with this post. Do not panic, do not rush into anything, review the year, identify the weaknesses and then make any and all changes to improve the team.
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looking forward to 2016 some observations
#1 we need a QB transfer. With Nebraska pushing out Pelinis QB's maybe we can get one to come here to start
#2 Our Offense has been subpar. You could argue its coaching or execution but I dont think its arguable that our offensive line has taken a step back with wolford gone (understandably)
#3 Ruiz needs to get healthy. He was a step slow all year and I suspect it has to do with the injury at the Pitt game never fully healing but we need 2 healthy running backs
#4 With the senior leadership on defense (best defensive team we have had in years) its important to get in talents (secondary and linebacker) to help prevent a regression in play)
Personally I wish we would go away from the spread offense and go to a pro set but this is a personal preference
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looking forward to 2016 some observations
#1 we need a QB transfer. With Nebraska pushing out Pelinis QB's maybe we can get one to come here to start
#2 Our Offense has been subpar. You could argue its coaching or execution but I dont think its arguable that our offensive line has taken a step back with wolford gone (understandably)
#3 Ruiz needs to get healthy. He was a step slow all year and I suspect it has to do with the injury at the Pitt game never fully healing but we need 2 healthy running backs
#4 With the senior leadership on defense (best defensive team we have had in years) its important to get in talents (secondary and linebacker) to help prevent a regression in play)
Personally I wish we would go away from the spread offense and go to a pro set but this is a personal preference
Best post of the year
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I am very optimistic for the future and for next year.
I think going into next season, the number one priority is our offensive line depth issues. If that is fixed, it will fix a majority of our woes.
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I really like the post as well DoubleE. Although I am not so certain that you can call Montgomery's offense a true spread. The reason that I like it is because it keeps the basic elements of a pro-set, with the addition of misdirection.
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I thought that the D was better then it has been for years. Needs to cut down on some of those big plays they gave up but headed in the right direction.
The O took a step back, o-line not up to where it needed to be, qb position same thing. In several games the O did not produce when it had to.
Mixed thoughts on the special teams, coverage was just ok. I was very happy with the FG kicking, did not expect it. One pet peeve of mine that needs to improve is kick offs, I want to see every kick into the end-zone.
Lastly I would like to see our players develop more of a confident attitude, mental toughness.
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OL depth was an issue all season. Nobody can play effectively with 3 centers in a season. You can't coach health, you also can't recruit health, but we definitely need some depth upfront. We could also use a power back too. "Everybody" came at us with a 230+ powder back and it is tough to stop a guy like that running from the TB position. Everybody says Moore is looking great and with much more powder, so hopefully.....
I'm not a "fire the coach" every time things go bad. We KNOW JT knows winning football. We also KNOW Bo knows winning football. We were 2 4th quarter letdowns from the playoffs, and so not that far away. Alexander Rivers, both young LBs mean the core of a MUCH better defense is back and should get even better. I think an honest review of the platooned QB's did NOT work and Davis simply doesn't help. For one thing, although he is a better runner than Hunter, he isn't a good runner. Look at the guys that we faced vs. Ricky, it was no comparison. For my money you get a stud recruit of build around Wells. Transfers for a season are a waste of a season. They transfer "down" because they can't play and so we've had 3-5 over the years and none contributed. Alexander is the best transfer we've ever had. I can't think of another guy that transferred and contributed significantly. JC guys yes, but not transfers. Maybe one of those JC OL tackles like Mady would be about right!
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After missing the playoffs by only 1 win the last 4 seasons, I thought for sure Bo would get them into the playoffs, so I am disappointed with year 1 of the regime. The defense definitely improved, but still gave up too many big plays. Unfortunately the offense took a step back. Very inconsistent and too many turnovers, especially the ones that went for TDs. I still believe Bo will make this team a consistent playoff participant. Will be interesting to see what happens between now and spring practice.
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I predicted a 7-4 pre-season but changed that in mid-season to 5-6. Was on the money. I changed because I realized thast coaching had been overblown and hyped. Most expected an 8-3 record because of Bo. I dropped down one game because of his annual blowing of at least one game annually at Nebraska. Because Bo's first class was a stinker as I view it, the next class has to be gold or the losing seasons here will start to pile up, just as they did under Heacock. QB and special teams is a problem. Bo needs to SHUT his mouth and try not to choke in a game (which he did often at Nebraska ). However, next years schedule looks like a repeat -- 2 weenies, WVU and then the MVFC with UNI on the schedule. Until Bo actually coaches better ( and recruits better), even with a lot of talent coming back, I don't see great things for YSU.
In fact, it can get worse.
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I predicted a 7-4 pre-season but changed that in mid-season to 5-6. Was on the money. I changed because I realized thast coaching had been overblown and hyped. Most expected an 8-3 record because of Bo. I dropped down one game because of his annual blowing of at least one game annually at Nebraska. Because Bo's first class was a stinker as I view it, the next class has to be gold or the losing seasons here will start to pile up, just as they did under Heacock. QB and special teams is a problem. Bo needs to SHUT his mouth and try not to choke in a game (which he did often at Nebraska ). However, next years schedule looks like a repeat -- 2 weenies, WVU and then the MVFC with UNI on the schedule. Until Bo actually coaches better ( and recruits better), even with a lot of talent coming back, I don't see great things for YSU.
In fact, it can get worse.
Okay, so now that you had your customary YSU slam & unwarranted self-gratification ...as the thread is titled ...now what? Try being specific. Coaching changes, staff changes, player changes. Recruiting class stinks? tell who and why? What would you recruit for 2015-16?
"...In fact, it can get worse".
Could you be anymore generic?