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Reviewing MVFC stats, ISUb generally falls in the middle of the pack in most categories. An exception is that ISUb is the most penalized MVFC team, average over 70 yards lost in penalties/game. Also, ISUb has the most sacks against, average 3.9 sacks/game.
ISU b (2-5/4-6) beat SIU 39-36, who we lost to in OT.
From YSUsports.com:
"YSU has won 20 of the 24 all-time meetings in the series, but the Sycamores have won three of the last five meetings, including a 27-24 overtime win at Stambaugh Stadium in 2014. At Memorial Stadium in Terre Haute, YSU is 11-1 with the lone loss coming in 2011 (30-24). The Guins won the last time the two teams played in Terre Haute, 35-24, battling through two lightning delays. Ten of the 24 meetings have been decided by a touchdown or less."
Massey: YSU with a 66% chance of victory with a predicted score of 34-28.
5dimes: YSU -6 O/U: 55
From gosycamores.com
"Sophomore QB Matt Adam took the reigns of ISU’s starting job minutes before the season opener vs. Butler on Sept. 5, and hasn’t looked back. His 2,055 yard season this year is already the sixth-best passing season in Sycamore history."
"Senior WR Gary Owens and junior WR Robert Tonyan Jr. put up another impressive performance against Western Illinois on Saturday, combining for 13 receptions for 147 yards. On the year, the duo has combined for 75 receptions, 1,130 yards and 14 TDs and during their two years together as receivers at ISU they have combined for 198 catches for 2,692 yards and 23 scores. Both have tied the single-game receiving touchdown record of three scores in a game this season, and both are encroaching on the single-season season (eight) and all-time career (15) touchdown records."
"Following a season in which ISU made the SportsCenter Top-10 for its “Circle of Death” trick play, Indiana State has scored on four different trick plays this season."
"Youngstown State comes to Terre Haute this weekend on the cusp of a potential bid to the FCS Playoffs :) at 5-5 overall and 3-4 in conference play."
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tOSU took Whisky to the woodshed 59-0 in the BIG title game in December 2014, and the College Football Playoff selection committee was so impressed that tOSU was selected to enter the playoffs.
I believe that if YSU similarly wallops the Trees, the effort will be noticed by the FCS ADs comprising the selection committee. YSU would be the fifth MVFC team selected, with the same # of at-large invitations as last year (ISUb was invited with a 4-4/7-5 record).
A long shot, but possible nonetheless.
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ISUb fan site:
http://www.sycamorepride.com/showthread.php?35511-November-21-2015-Indiana-State-(4-6)-vs-Youngstown-State-(5-5)&s=6ce31c6d76245120b681d7532a3e36f5
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Could be tough putting up many points with the weather. Rain should end in the morning but 30mph winds are forecasted for the entire game. FCS playoff selection will air live on Sunday @11 on ESPNU
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last time I checked you needed 7, but stranger things have happened. Beside you know darn well that ESPN wants to cover Coach P. ;)
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A win by South Dakota and Western Illinois would help our cause..still a long shot..This is what makes the Southern loss so difficult to take. We would more then likely be assured with a win over Indiana st and them without knocking off one of the top 3 in the conference
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tOSU took Whisky to the woodshed 59-0 in the BIG title game in December 2014, and the College Football Playoff selection committee was so impressed that tOSU was selected to enter the playoffs.
I believe that if YSU similarly wallops the Trees, the effort will be noticed by the FCS ADs comprising the selection committee. YSU would be the fifth MVFC team selected, with the same # of at-large invitations as last year (ISUb was invited with a 4-4/7-5 record).
A long shot, but possible nonetheless.
I like the enthusiasm, not so sure we are even worthy. I think we looked pretty good against Ill St and NDSU, but other games not so much.
I am curious to see how the team responds this week, my hope is that they rally around each other and come out with something to prove. Time will tell.
Nice to see they are prone to sacks.
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Let Ricky play the entire game. Time to find out what he can do.
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Let Ricky play the entire game. Time to find out what he can do.
No. We are not technically out of it. If we curb stomp them it may get us in
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You serious ? ;D ;D ;D
YSU is NOT going to the playoffs. NDS, ILS and SDS are in. UNI ? Maybe . Bo sealed their fate with last week-ends embarrassing episode.
Its delusional around here now !
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You serious ? ;D ;D ;D
YSU is NOT going to the playoffs. NDS, ILS and SDS are in. UNI ? Maybe . Bo sealed their fate with last week-ends embarrassing episode.
Its delusional around here now !
There is a really small chance.
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You serious ? ;D ;D ;D
YSU is NOT going to the playoffs. NDS, ILS and SDS are in. UNI ? Maybe . Bo sealed their fate with last week-ends embarrassing episode.
Its delusional around here now !
Also we are ranked 17 in GPI which has been used by committee to measure team strength. If we win, we will move up in the GPI. Also the MEAC spot is now available because they are not going to participate in the playoffs. Given that the MVFC is the best conference by a long shot and we should get at least 5 teams. Remember they took a 6 win Sam Houston State team a year ago. If we smash Indiana State we have a chance. I have seen stranger from the committee. Our losses were close and competitive (except against the bunnies)
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Still were a better team then 5 loss Indiana st. from a year ago. When St.Francis beats Duquesne this Saturday and gets the auto bid that will be hard to take. 7-3 Citadel is still considered a at large possibly and play South Carolina this Saturday. Yes Fan what better way for ESPN to get exposure considering their financial difficulties
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Although if we win Saturday convincingly, there is no doubt we will have a higher GPI than quite a few 7-4 at-large teams in the field that we would have no problem beating up on. I am sure ESPN was hoping we could host a game for the Bo Show.
Regardless, I am looking forward to this game Saturday. I am expecting this team to be fired up and win by 14.
GO GUINS
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Kiss playoffs goodbye.
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(http://memecrunch.com/meme/4QV1G/jim-mora/image.jpg?w=400&c=1)
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If we had a chance at all with the playoffs at 6-5 Liberty university just took it away by defeating #4 Coastal Carolina last night. My guess is if the committee would consider a 6-5 team Liberty would have the edge.
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(http://memecrunch.com/meme/4QV1G/jim-mora/image.jpg?w=400&c=1)
I never said we would or that we were in contention, I just made a statement that we will be higher than quite a few 7-4 teams in GPI by the end of the season if we win Saturday.
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YSU is ranked #18 in the FCS with the 5th highest SOS, according to Massey.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2015&sub=11605
YSU is not on the NoBowls radar, but very few of the proposed non-MVFC at-large selections would have done better then YSU w/ a schedule including Pitt, SDSU and both 2014 FCS finalists.
http://nobowls.com/
Fordham always fascinates me. A joke conference, #60 in SOS, squeaker wins over joke teams like Holy Cross and U Penn, a loss to Colgate.....and they get an at-large over YSU??? WTF?!
MVFC membership results in a deflated W/L record (imagine our record as a Patriot League team), and then frank discrimination from the FCS playoff selection committee.
Need a 28 plus margin of victory tomorrow. With such a statement, it is possible.
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I appreciate all your enthusiasm "BUT" all the computers, all the Massey's, and all the nobowls can say what they want. The bottom line is W-L's and none in NOV if you had 3 in a row in OCT!! YSU's been in this situation before (SOS and RPI strong) and was sent packing. The resume would look better "IF" the two weenie games were "W"s against a full scholarship teams.
#mytwocents
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I appreciate all your enthusiasm "BUT" all the computers, all the Massey's, and all the nobowls can say what they want. The bottom line is W-L's and none in NOV if you had 3 in a row in OCT!! YSU's been in this situation before (SOS and RPI strong) and was sent packing. The resume would look better "IF" the two weenie games were "W"s against a full scholarship teams.
#mytwocents
A long shot ....YES, but our losses were close, the team is improving and we are top 8 in total defense and top 2 in pass defense. We've never had that to go on our resume. We also pass the eye test. If we aren't in the conversation the committee doesn't know football
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I appreciate all your enthusiasm "BUT" all the computers, all the Massey's, and all the nobowls can say what they want. The bottom line is W-L's and none in NOV if you had 3 in a row in OCT!! YSU's been in this situation before (SOS and RPI strong) and was sent packing. The resume would look better "IF" the two weenie games were "W"s against a full scholarship teams.
#mytwocents
A long shot ....YES, but our losses were close, the team is improving and we are top 8 in total defense and top 2 in pass defense. We've never had that to go on our resume. We also pass the eye test. If we aren't in the conversation the committee doesn't know football
Well don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Indy State may also have something to prove and who knows how YSU will respond to last week. I'll bet a pay check YSU misses the playoff's even "IF they win by 70 over Indy State.
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I appreciate all your enthusiasm "BUT" all the computers, all the Massey's, and all the nobowls can say what they want. The bottom line is W-L's and none in NOV if you had 3 in a row in OCT!! YSU's been in this situation before (SOS and RPI strong) and was sent packing. The resume would look better "IF" the two weenie games were "W"s against a full scholarship teams.
#mytwocents
A long shot ....YES, but our losses were close, the team is improving and we are top 8 in total defense and top 2 in pass defense. We've never had that to go on our resume. We also pass the eye test. If we aren't in the conversation the committee doesn't know football
Well don't count your chickens before they are hatched. Indy State may also have something to prove and who knows how YSU will respond to last week. I'll bet a pay check YSU misses the playoff's even "IF they win by 70 over Indy State.
I would too, especially with the known ineptitude of the committee. I'm just saying it possible with a schoolyard beating, but not in any way probable.
Weenie games definitely hurt our argument, although I guess STFU grabbing an autobid gives a little additional cred.
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YSU has no business being in the playoff conversation. Strength of schedule only a factor, if you beat some or at least one of those good teams. Who did we beat? What is our signature win? We don't have one. Beat a bunch of bad teams.
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Great hype vid showing the moves and elusiveness of Webb and Davis, and a few NDSU guys getting leveled.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u4D7erbwrtY
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YSU has no business being in the playoff conversation. Strength of schedule only a factor, if you beat some or at least one of those good teams. Who did we beat? What is our signature win? We don't have one. Beat a bunch of bad teams.
And STFU belongs? We would smash every CAA team, most of the big fluffy, all of the big south teams.
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YSU has no business being in the playoff conversation. Strength of schedule only a factor, if you beat some or at least one of those good teams. Who did we beat? What is our signature win? We don't have one. Beat a bunch of bad teams.
And STFU belongs? We would smash every CAA team, most of the big fluffy, all of the big south teams.
It is SFU. Nobody and I mean nobody calls them STFU.
For those of you who do not know what STFU stands for: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stfu
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YSU has no business being in the playoff conversation. Strength of schedule only a factor, if you beat some or at least one of those good teams. Who did we beat? What is our signature win? We don't have one. Beat a bunch of bad teams.
And STFU belongs? We would smash every CAA team, most of the big fluffy, all of the big south teams.
It is SFU. Nobody and I mean nobody calls them STFU.
For those of you who do not know what STFU stands for: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stfu
duh.....just having a little fun. :)
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Reps from the NCAA will be picking the teams . Not ESPN. The Bo show is a non-starter this year. And maybe for years to come. Theres a new reason for Penguin hate in case you haven't noticed.
Thank you, bean counter.
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Tough to take a 6-5 team with a loss to a 3-8 (4-7 if they pull a big upset) team and no signature win, but for YSU to have any chance, the following 6-4 teams must all lose.
Montana, Eastern Washington, North Dakota, Villanova, New Hampshire, Towson and UNI.
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There are a ton of 4 and 5 loss teams in the FCS. Only two of them have a higher SOS than YSU...5-5 WIU (who we defeated at WIU) and 6-4 UNI.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2015&sub=11605
UNI likely will be 7-4 and absolutely deserves to be in. Even if WIU defeats SDSU....we should be picked over them because of the head-to-head win.
So, if ANY 6-5 team gets in, and the committee looks at SOS and not just record....we are the first one in as the fifth MVFC team (same # of at-larges as 2014).
But...gotta turn their heads away from a 7-4 team with hollow wins from a BS conference. Gotta win big tomorrow.
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If the Big Sky and CAA both get 4 teams in..I will go crazy!!
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Theres a new reason for Penguin hate in case you haven't noticed.
Thank you, bean counter.
Does that mean you will no longer be joining us?
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Theres a new reason for Penguin hate in case you haven't noticed.
Thank you, bean counter.
Does that mean you will no longer be joining us?
Hey maybe we can trade him to NDSU for Lakes
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I haven't had any problems with Lakes posts and I believe NDSU would gladly trade him as in the past many of their fans refused to claim him for their fan base and labelled him as a nut case.
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I haven't had any problems with Lakes posts and I believe NDSU would gladly trade him as in the past many of their fans refused to claim him for their fan base and labelled him as a nut case.
I don't see any issues with him. Seems like a decent dude. I wonder why he was kicked off AGS.
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Is game televised locally?
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The CW
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Thanks!!!
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It's a blizzard out there folks.
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Webb! Dude is fast.
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6-5 WIU, a team we beat, in the playoffs.
We would've been in at 6-5.
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6-5 WIU, a team we beat, in the playoffs.
We would've been in at 6-5.
I disagree. WIU has wins over UNI and SDSU. Our signature win would have been WIU. I think they earned it.
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6-5 WIU, a team we beat, in the playoffs.
We would've been in at 6-5.
I disagree. WIU has wins over UNI and SDSU. Our signature win would have been WIU. I think they earned it.
Dana Balash tweeted that New Hampshire (7-4 in the inferior CAA) had only one more point in the final FCS STATS poll than 5-6 YSU. A 6-5 YSU would've had more points then at-large UNH.
Again, YSU won the head-to-head versus WIU (both would've been 6-5).
YSU was in w/ a win over the Trees.
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6-5 WIU, a team we beat, in the playoffs.
We would've been in at 6-5.
I disagree. WIU has wins over UNI and SDSU. Our signature win would have been WIU. I think they earned it.
Dana Balash tweeted that New Hampshire (7-4 in the inferior CAA) had only one more point in the final FCS STATS poll than 5-6 YSU. A 6-5 YSU would've had more points then at-large UNH.
Again, YSU won the head-to-head versus WIU (both would've been 6-5).
YSU was in w/ a win over the Trees.
I just don't see it. No signature wins. Bubble yes, but with no ranked wins (WIU isn't even ranked), our resume was weak.
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YSU finishes #30 in SRS....behind non-scholly Dayton.
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system
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Tough SOS is one thing. You have to beat someone once in awhile.
Its clear we get no breaks in this conference, haven't for years so I'm not exactly a conspiracy theorist here.
We will need to be just about the best team in the nation just to finish 7-4 :o