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If this belongs elsewhere let me know, but I figured this is sports related.
So countdown to the season begin!
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I haven't been this excited about a season opener in years.
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I know what you mean! I get excited every year, but the last time I was this excited was when I was at the ysu pitt game in 2012. I am optimistic about this year. I also think that YSU Pitt will be a very interesting game this year and ysu could pull the upset again.
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Massey has YSU as 14 point dogs to Pitt.....and has YSU only winning 2 MVFC games.
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=9217&s=279541
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Massey has YSU as 14 point dogs to Pitt.....and has YSU only winning 2 MVFC games.
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=9217&s=279541
LOL
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ysufan0505, just curious, is the lol a sign of derision from the statement? And even if they are projected to lose that much in the massey ratings, im still optimistic for the season.
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For what it's worth, I have done a statistical analysis and tests of actual wins vs rankings on Massey and Sagarin to determine who has the better predictor. There is no comparison between the two statistical prediction models. Sagarin wins hands down. Sagarin has the lowest error of predicted vs actual wins and its not even close. Massey has a lot of work to do before he can earn credibility with me. As far as I am concerned I would use the Massey ratings as bathroom tissue.
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Looking at the Massey predictions for YSU, four of the MVFC losses are by 3 points. That is consistent w/ what I read on AGS, in that there is expected to be much parity and uncertainty in the middle grouping of the MVFC. I like Massey in that they "get it." They rank MVFC teams deservedly very high, and 1AAA teams are in their rightful place scrapping the bottom. When I see Harvard or Fordham or Lehigh anywhere above the 20 spot...I immediately dismiss the poll as worthless.
It is interesting that Massey predicts Pitt to be the second strongest team on our schedule, which I agree with. You know you are a member of the "SEC of FCS" when your $$ games are easier than some conference games.
Also interesting that Pitt's margin of victory is predicted to greater with Akron than with YSU.
My personal belief is that YSU will finish 4th or 5th...with WIU also being 4th or 5th. Hopefully that is playoff-worthy. A 5th place MVFC finish is equivalent, IMO, to a top 10 FCS finish...not too shabby.
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These prediction models work better at the upper level of FBS where strong programs will almost always be good and weak programs will usually be bad. They are less reliable at the FCS level where the addition or subtraction of even one elite player can change the fortunes of a team dramatically. The best example of this is Illinois State. In 2013, they were the poster boy for mediocrity, winning all their home games while losing all their road games. Enter the quarterback transfer from Indiana, a player that nobody at the FCS level could contain in the open field, and Illinois State became an instant title contender. Should that stud be seriously injured now during his senior year, Illinois State would instantly revert back to mediocrity.
Needless to say, coaching changes can also shatter these prediction models. For better or worse, YSU will be a vastly different team under Pelini.
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I meant LOL at the number of MVFC wins they had us at. Time to get excited ladies and gents. Pelini is gonna have us back in business!
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ill get excited when we get in the playoffs. the fact we are in the best league in fcs (better then some fbs leagues) makes pelinis job tougher and i dont want undue expectations for year one
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ill get excited when we get in the playoffs. the face we are in the best league in fcs (better then some fbs leagues) makes pelinis job tougher and i dont want undue expectations for year one
A couple things we have going for us. Offensive Coordinator intact don't see a lot changing here so learning curve is not there. 2. Pelini is a defensive coach and has the defense with his brother. I like it. Should be better than in most transitions with a new HC.
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As optimistic as I am about the season, I guess there is the point that its better to set the bar low and be suprised. I would like for them to make the playoffs, but I'm not sure they will. I think pelini is a good coach and he has the possibility of coming out guns blazing, but there is also the possibility it takes him more than one year to develop the players and the schemes enough to get the team where we all want them to be.
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As optimistic as I am about the season, I guess there is the point that its better to set the bar low and be suprised. I would like for them to make the playoffs, but I'm not sure they will. I think pelini is a good coach and he has the possibility of coming out guns blazing, but there is also the possibility it takes him more than one year to develop the players and the schemes enough to get the team where we all want them to be.
All solid points. Hey, can't be any worse than Wolf right?
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And you are correct, it cant be worse.
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I don't think there is even a remote chance that this might happen, but you're wrong, it could be a LOT WORSE than Wolf!
Since Kyre went down for the Cavs, I'm really getting antsy for football. The Indians are supposed to help pass the time a little bit, but boy are they terrible! Shut out twice yesterday!! Come on Penguins!
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Orioles fan here, so not complaining ...the tribe usually has the birds number. That being said, the most exciting thing about this fall will be seeing any changes in style. I really hope we see some on defense. I do think this will mean less 1st-half scoring for YSU, but hopefully we make second-half adjustments on D that will give our O the ball a bit more that last year. Also better field position.
Not that I am dissatisfied in any way, but QB Stanton is leaving Nebraska. He is clearly one of best dual-threat QB's in the nation. I heard he has grade issues and will go JUCO.
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This countdown stuff is making the wait worse not better! Should have waited until maybe 30 days to start!
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Sorry! I started one personally before 100 days away, and I probably shouldnt have started this one at 70 days. Should I just stop updating it until we hit 30 days? Lol
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Too late now, so you might as well continue. Next year, the day to start is the start of fall practice. Then there is something going on; something to talk/post about. This lull between spring practice & the signing period and fall practice is really torture. At least the Tribe one last night!
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From reading some Nebraska boards, Stanton wasn't grades. He was 5th on the depth chart (behind walkons). They seem to think he'll go Juco in Cali. It is common knowledge there that Leroy Alexander is transferring to YSU though. He tweeted it to Randy Gregory. Word on him is that he failed steroids test twice.
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66 days. When does fall camp start? First week of august Im guessing? Also wonder if it was steroids that prevented leroy from playing last year? And if so, will he even be eligible or clean up his act?
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Alexander played his RS Freshman at Nebraska so seems he has talent but also does come with some baggage. We shall see. Can't hurt to add more DB depth.
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Sorry! I started one personally before 100 days away, and I probably shouldnt have started this one at 70 days. Should I just stop updating it until we hit 30 days? Lol
I start listening to Christmas music in October. It'd be fine with me if the countdown started the day BP was hired. Don't let anybody kill the buzz.
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I'll keep the count going! But yeah I know summer conditioning started, but when does fall camp start? The first week of August?
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the rules are pretty simple really. Although they may have changed. In DI (FCS) we can have 29 practice days for camp, (a practice day is any day that there is even the slightest practice. This adds to why the building of WATTS was so important to us), with a max of 90 (I think this is now 100) students participating. There can be 40 sessions that need to be divided as follows:
Days 1-5 can be no more than 1 session per day, no pads & limited contact (usually none beyond hands).
This leaves 24 days to use the remaining 35 sessions. 2-a-days count as 2 sessions.
Most teams have a different schedule once school begins, so the 29-days is calculated back from the first game. Here is an example session & the one I think we will see this year:
8/30 - 9/5: First game week, not part of summer/fall camp.
8/23 - 8/29: 4 days of 2-a-day final practice game short session = 9 units
8/16 - 8/22: some combination of 6 days and 10 sessions = 10 units
8/9 - 8/15: 5 days 2-a-day + 1 session/day is game = 11 units
8/2 - 8/8: a total of 5 days, 1 session per day, no pads, limited contact. 5 units
Probably starting Wednesday August 5, 2015. I will check and let everyone know. Or we can have some of those posters "in the know" tell us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1TXXo7OgA4&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop
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Cool video. Now THAT'S a strength coach! Lol.
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63 days! Happy 4th everyone!
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62 days!
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Who made the video? IMO somebody did a damn good job!
Has anyone ever seen something similar for YSU?
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It's somebody who's new on the staff. They have been doing a really good job. Videos are legit.
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It's somebody who's new on the staff. They have been doing a really good job. Videos are legit.
Videos HAVE to be legit. New scoreboard/video board construction shows in stadium shots. This are definitely current!
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YSU football twitter handle announced they are bringing back the white facemasks! Honestly, with going old school on the facemasks, i think the administration is trying to give the point that we are going to be back to our football dynasty. Cant wait to see that energy translate to actual results on the field, hopefully this year.
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YSU football twitter handle announced they are bringing back the white facemasks! Honestly, with going old school on the facemasks, i think the administration is trying to give the point that we are going to be back to our football dynasty. Cant wait to see that energy translate to actual results on the field, hopefully this year.
Frankly the when Wolford went with the white pants and gray masks it was the worst of all worlds for me, However, IMO changing to white face masks can't be expected to affect the actual play on the field very much! I think it will take better players (which we have only a couple coming, as I see it) and better coaching, which I do see on defense, which was the issue previously. Depth and conditioning killed us in the Wolford years, but was our real strength in the Tressel years. Hopefully we are seeing that coming back. Pink face masks, but conditioned players that win the 4th quarter would work for me!
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I didn't mean changing the uniform actually will change their play, but I was saying the ingredients for greatness are there, and the changing of the uniform (facemasks), means that they will be changing the mindset and perception of the team.
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The YO Show may be an "Emperor Penguin" by kickoff, I love the excitement.
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How many posts does it take to reach emperor penguin status? I feel as though it would be a lofty goal by kickoff! I kinda wish I had actually participated in the forums beyond just reading them prior to this year.
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I didn't mean changing the uniform actually will change their play, but I was saying the ingredients for greatness are there, and the changing of the uniform (facemasks), means that they will be changing the mindset and perception of the team.
"I didn't mean changing the uniform actually will change their play” Of course, I know that, but apparently we are more desperate following the Wolford malaise than I thought. One touchdown in the right place each of the last 2 seasons and we would have made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it wasn't anything like a disaster. We just “suffer” with the memories of all those great Tressel teams!
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Well, I agree with you, and I think thats been the most painful part. Knowing the team had the ability to make it every year and it wouldnt due to some sort of collapse really hurt the fanbase. Obviously their was alot of unlucky bounces, but people can rightfully place blame on the coach (wolford) to some extent. Part of what makes having pelini back so exciting is that wolf did leave the team with alot of talent (he was an excellent recruiter). But its not just the wolford drought to the fanbase. It goes back to the 90s. Also while I think wolford could have made the playoffs, I still think we are better off with our current coaching situation.
But you're right, alot of people are desparate for YSU to be "good again" when in reality ysu was good, and what we really seek is greatness
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I see the hype machine is in full bloom in July. ;D ;D ;D
Soon....................... soon, you will see. But hold that thought and continue with the hype. I love it for what it sets up for....................................
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee's baaaaaaaaaaack!
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee's baaaaaaaaaaack!
Good ol' Paladin. The word LOSER comes immediately to mind, doesn't it?
Remember, he who laughs last laughs best!
Back to YO Shows thoughts above. I don’t agree in your assessment of bad bounces and bad luck. You make your own breaks and luck. Remember the line frequently (albeit incorrectly) credited to golfer Gary Player, "the harder I practice the luckier I get." I think Wolford did a good job on the O line, WR and QB, but the D was pretty much ignored and cost us a lot of games. I also think they weren't in good enough shape to compete at the MVC level.
Hopefully Pelini and his staff have them “coached up” and “trained up” for the season. Remember, some polls have 5 MVC teams in the top 10 so a winning season may never be harder than 2015. We could go 9-3 and make the playoffs, but it is also possible to go 3-9. I see us as underdogs at Pitt, Ill St. SDSU, NDSU and probably Ind. St. coming off NDSU.
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I didn't mean changing the uniform actually will change their play, but I was saying the ingredients for greatness are there, and the changing of the uniform (facemasks), means that they will be changing the mindset and perception of the team.
"I didn't mean changing the uniform actually will change their play” Of course, I know that, but apparently we are more desperate following the Wolford malaise than I thought. One touchdown in the right place each of the last 2 seasons and we would have made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it wasn't anything like a disaster. We just “suffer” with the memories of all those great Tressel teams!
When you said that, I assumed you were saying they got unlucky and it wasnt his fault since you said it wasnt anything like a disaster. But while I do personally put blame on our end of season collapses on the coaching, I agree not everything was so bad under wolford. On a sidenote, I hope Pelini does better against ranked teams in the fcs than he did at Nebraska considering so many MVC teams are ranked! I think he will though.
Also, Paladin, I hope you wouldnt mind clarifying this for me, you do want to see YSU do well right? Youre just cynical that they will?
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YO Show
The problem with late game collapses comes from either 1. players just not good enough, 2. poor conditioning, 3. players choking, 4. coaches choking, or some combination of the 4. Can’t speak to Nebraska against ranked teams, but I suspect it was the players just weren’t good enough. YSU had good enough players against almost everybody through 3 quarters, so by my theory; it’s one or a combination of the last 3. My experience over the years says it was a combination of “running out of gas” (conditioning) and coaching “tightening up”. Hopefully the attacking style of D talked about and show a little bit in the spring game with have us more aggressive in the 4th quarter. They certainly seem committed to conditioning, and the roster is probably a little deeper this year. Unfortunately I don’t see any future stars on either side of the ball in the recruiting class. I hope the Nebraska experience of OK players, but just not quite “there” doesn’t become an issue at YSU.
Your thoughts?
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yes, I'd like to see them do well. Wolf recruited very well over his tenure here. I chuckle at many of the Wolf haters and the Pelini choirboys. I fully agree, The D did in Wolf as he never had a good DC here to get them over the hump and they were playoff worthy or near it for many years. The love affair with Pelini, just a local good old boy, is one to watch. Its been mentioned that Pelini FAILED at Nebraska against ranked teams almost all the time. This at a major university with everything going for it. For what its worth, he has Wolf's players and it a Cadillac. They are loaded for bear.
But, I won't be there . We gave up our Penguin Club seats. Go Bucks ! lol. Get rid of another local good old boy failure ( AD) and I'll be back. Will catch some replays at night, maybe. I expect a coaching hiccup at YSU. Watch what the MVFC predicts in the pre-season vote. lol
As I said before, many times.............. this will not be a "drama" here at YSU. It will be a "comedy".
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How many posts does it take to reach emperor penguin status? I feel as though it would be a lofty goal by kickoff! I kinda wish I had actually participated in the forums beyond just reading them prior to this year.
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My thoughts regarding the current season are I'm excited and optimistic. I have high hopes for pelini even given the circumstances, but I'm not going to have unrealistic expectations for the season either. Im not expecting a national championship run, but I'm willing to say that the past, i completely agree about conditioning and defense probably doing wolford in. Id say alot more than conditioning I think. Also overlooked, im wondering if team leadership was lacking too. Just look at all the off field issues the past couple years. Idk maybe I'm wrong on that? It just seems like it was alot.
But I do have high hopes for the season because I do think pelini will get the defense to play better, and considering that was a glaring concern, I believe you will see them perform well this year
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I think Wolford did a good job on the O line, WR and QB, but the D was pretty much ignored and cost us a lot of games. I also think they weren't in good enough shape to compete at the MVC level.
I heard a member of the media address Coach Smith after a game on why they didn't substitute until the game was out of hand either way; was it due to a drop off in talent or what reason? His answer was "the starters were full scholarship and he felt that substitution took the starters out of their groove." I think fresh legs would have won the Illlini game and been a difference in several others.
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I know a lot of coaches believe in the "momentum" or "continuity" with playing the starters and I understand that, but you also have to work in the "fresh legs" for 2 reasons. The change of pace can swing momentum your way and the "fresh legs" are your starters next season! I think the Wolford philosophy hurt us both ways. But IMO the biggest "sin" of the Wolford era was the passive defense. I have great hopes for Pelini's coaching. I have some reservations about his recruiting. I think it was an issue at Nebraska and we pretty much took a "pass" this season. Let’s hope the YSU President can lend some direction!
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go guins:
Television announcers stated often that what allowed Ohio State to beat Alabama and Oregon was their ability to substitute on D to offset the fast paced offense. (All around coaching helped too) I also feel much of the Wolford era defensive problems came from his D-coordinators and their passive and read and react defense, but he was the man in charge. Team chemistry, from the stands anyhow, seemed to be lacking.
Well - I am not here to berate Wolford and wish him the best with the 49ers. I really hoped he could turn the corner while at YSU. I wish the best to the team and this staff.
If the YSU President has any imput, it is done elsewhere as my understanding is he isn't around the football program much.
GO GUINS!
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Since it has been mentioned several times ( not by me, lol ), let me bring up the major concerns. Expectations are that the D will be improved ( by coaching ?). And then its is specifically said that Pelini will "be a better coach". Ask Nebraska fans how he fared with a superior program but failure in playing ranked opponents. Finally, some have concerns about Pelini's recruiting ( and well they should). Wolf remains ( and may well be proven over time) a superior recruiter over Pelini when comparing each's first class.. I don't see ANY improvement over Wolf here except Pelini MAY have a better DC ( himself) rather than the sham DC listed. But be careful. Todays offense of choice is the Spread O with some using it balanced between run and pass and others favoring a more solid approach ( run dominant or pass dominant). Balanced is very hard to defend unless you have better personnel to defend it with, not scheme per se. YSU had great O talent for years but little on the D side of the ball (Wolf's years were all of this). Recruiting -- the life blood of a program, is discussed by many as though having "football Players" rather than athletic players is the answer. Buy into that and you can kiss the program down the tubes for another decade. Pelini avoided Florida recruits and opted for Ohio. That is a losing formula. Some D-I transfers may help temporarily , but leave out Florida players and YSU gets average ( OR WORSE) REAL QUICK. I'll be back to update on both those ideas............................................. ;D ;D ;D
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What a bunch of under-qualified statements Paladin. EXACTLY what you said about Bo is just some media print and describes YSU under Wolf as well. 'Better than coach H' is the most that you can say about W ...and that is not really an accurate statement either. However we never under performed under coach H and Nebraska never underperformed under Pelini.
Attendance was good for both coach H at YSU and coach P at Nebraska. Attendance was not good for coach W while at YSU. Fans did not like what they saw. He came in a took a huge gamble, that did not pay-off. He changed our style of ball (just what did anyone think was going to happen when you hire a DC from Florida?) and NEVER MADE THE POST SEASON. Everybody loves change, when you are winning; but it is the first thing that they will hate when you lose.
I hate Urban Meyer now and under Florida. Tressel was by far the better coach. However, there was not a doubt in my mind who was going to win that national title game years back. I even knew how lopsided UofF's victory was going to be. The difference is that Tressel restored pride and traditional football (run-based offense and mob defense) ...thus his players and fans loved him. Meyer was not well-liked at all down at Florida ...but who give a crap if you are winning?
Fans will come out to see a Bo Pelini coached football team and those other "local hacks" you gripe about (as if you ever did attend YSU games) are responsible for getting him here. So strap on a pair and be a man about things. Bo Pelini is the best hire in the history of I-AA/FCS football ...with no close second and whether he works out in the long run is never going to change that. People now know that the tone of YSU football has changed & it an obvious attempt to restore local-flavor and a sense of pride. It is already working. If we are stealing local guys from Akron ad Kent by the time he leaves ...the football world has changed (in a very positive way) at YSU. Again those 3 local hacks are responsible.
At Nebraska, Pelini did well against big teams and in bowls. His issue was that he could not win against Wisconsin or Minnesota ...thus he never broke into the top-10 and never saw a major bowl game. That level of performance is not acceptable at Nebraska, or YSU. Two things to remember:
1. The Big-10 had been under-performing for some time.
2. The man changed conferences while barely losing a beat.
The one thing that Pelini has going for him is that he likes to coach players. He is well aware of the risk he takes with some of these players. The reason he is "stacked" is going to be in-part because of the JUCO and IA transfers that "he" brought in. It is imperative that YSU recruit local and quite frankly, we are not good enough to get the better players at this time ...but you have to bite the bullet at some time. SO even if you think he recruited a bunch of local C's ...eventually we will see B's and maybe even an "A" once-in-a-while.
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Im not sure if those on this forum are already familiar with this article or not, but it brings up a valid point to this discussion: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/22/7430243/fcs-football-north-dakota-state-illinois-state
It discusses why the north has been winning national championships at the fcs level and dominating the south. One reason offered was that south is over recruited, and that was agreed to by coach craig bohl (even though he is now at wyoming) and the coach of eastern washington that they were able to find hidden gems in the north that got overlooked. They used the term strip minning to describe recruiting southern players.
So you have to wonder, if the recruiting strategy employed by wasnt to do just that. We got a three star in Isiah scott, and alot of the recruits were the top 200 players in ohio. Im not saying to ignore the south, but recruiting locally and in the north is what ndsu does for success, and picking gems in the north is easier than the over recruited south evidently, so I argue it can be a valid strategy. Granted, we have competition with alot of schools locally.
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Same old nonsense from Paladin. Florida players are great; Ohio players are trash. Pelini is merely the product of the local good old boys' network, forget that he won a national championship as dc at LSU or won at least nine games each year as a Big Ten head coach. Wolford was a great recruiter, forget the fact that some of his fabulous athletes quit on their teammates and their coaches the past two Novembers. That last accusation came from players not from me.
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Why do you always compare MVFC to the Big10??? THIS ISNT THE BIG 10. We are not playing Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin every year, You're drunk pally.
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Wolford was a great recruiter, forget the fact that some of his fabulous athletes quit on their teammates and their coaches the past two Novembers. That last accusation came from players not from me.
Spot on Wick!
I heard that from several players including a favorite QB
This type of poison is hard to get out of a system and is
exactly what led to our November downfall. More than one
player said that they had no intentions of extending the season.
OK That was then - this is NOW
GO GUINS
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Tressel was the best hire in I-AA/FCS history.
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Tressel was the best hire in I-AA/FCS history.
I don't know Power ...I can show you several people that did not want to hire him and his initial success was certainly lacking. Tressel wound up becoming the great coach that he now is, but that took about 4 years. When I say that coach P is the best hire ever, I mean because of his resume. The guy could go just about anywhere.
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Get your shots in now guys. But remember, this is an ongoing chat and we'll soon see what lies ahead as well as over the few years. I don't expect the local good old boys to say anything but glowing remarks about the local good old boys they have put in charge ( AD & coach). This site is full of good old boys. We'll talk again. I'll be back. ;D ;D ;D
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paladin:
I try to read your posts for the information you do have, but I would like to know who and what you think Youngstown State could do better. Not so much be careful what you wish for, but honestly - getting rid of someone is great ONLY if you can replace them with someone better. Would Pelini be OK if he wasn't from Youngstown? Who were they going to get that would be better? An "up and coming" young coach doesn't always pan out either. With the financial situation at YSU, the problems with ACE and the developing situation with Div I sports, I am not seeing how Youngstown, or many other teams similar, are attractive to great coaches.
Yes, the system seems nearly broken, but the continual pissing matches aren't fixing anything. What exactly are fans supposed to do to? Not to be disrespectful, but it doesn't take a genius to stand waist deep in water to figure out the ship is sinking. Now to plug the holes and right the ship would be.
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Don't try and argue with Pally. His only response will be Strollo must go and Pelini is a hot head who can't coach or recruit and who failed in the Big10 even though we play in FCS. Blah, blah, blah.
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Don't try and argue with Pally. His only response will be Strollo must go and Pelini is a hot head who can't coach or recruit and who failed in the Big10 even though we play in FCS. Blah, blah, blah.
I am not wanting to argue because Paladin does bring up some decent points;however this is what bothers me. I have been viewing this board for 3 - 4 years now since I moved back to Ohio and rekindled my interest in YSU. We (myself included) attack each other and then complain about the cohesiveness of the team. Much of what we criticize coaches and player for we are guilty of ourselves - maybe our right as fans. I am fortunate to talk with some of the players on occasion and not one of them want to lose. They aren't happy with the melt downs and certainly not happy with the players that quit on them. I will say this - the few I have talked with all said the the key to N. Dakota's success isn't that they have better players or coaches, but they are all in it together - every player - every play - winning or losing: players, coaches and fans.
We in turn are anxious to stop attending games and eat our own.
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Well... He should help. Heard we may land an Auburn transfer a month back.
@JuCoFootballACE: Elijah Daniel @elijahdaniel6 4merly Auburn @FootballAU inks w/ Youngstown State @YoungstownStFB @BoPelini http://t.co/xXG5L0I9Z1
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If he doesn't end up in jail..... Yikes
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/05/auburn_defensive_end_elijah_da_2.html
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On paper this defense is vastly improved with the transfers. I once worried about character but who cares anymore. Look at the two faced liars that run this country who think nothing of lying right to the camera and change their minds daily...... Cheers to fun and excitement at Stambaugh Stadium in 2015....
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Valley Talk, apparently he is confirmed beyond twitter too: http://247sports.com/Bolt/Former-Tigers-Daniel-Moncrief-find-new-football-homes-38166268
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Valley Talk, apparently he is confirmed beyond twitter too: http://247sports.com/Bolt/Former-Tigers-Daniel-Moncrief-find-new-football-homes-38166268
Welcome to Y-town Elijah.
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Valley Talk, apparently he is confirmed beyond twitter too: http://247sports.com/Bolt/Former-Tigers-Daniel-Moncrief-find-new-football-homes-38166268
Former 4 star. Welcome to YSU. Hope he can keep his head on straight.
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Welcome aboard, as always I am ok with giving someone a second chance, but never a third.
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Am I missing something or....? His legal troubles obviously are not over with. What if he is found guilty of some of the felony counts he has been charged with and ends up in jail? Lol. I'm just asking...
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Will the team take the field in orange jumpsuits?
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Will the team take the field in orange jumpsuits?
Or join the SEC Maybe the Penguins will be in the remake of The Longest Yard
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Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....... NDSU and Ill St have NO shame.... Why should YSU?
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Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....... NDSU and Ill St have NO shame.... Why should YSU?
Agree! We can be the PenGuins
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As long as the ankle bracelets can reach both end zones.....I'm good with it.
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First 1,000 fans get a nail file and a pack of cigarettes?
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Hey, it's how Urban and Nicky Saban get those fancy rings. As long as you can keep their heads on straight and on the field, good things will happen.
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And as long as getting rings is the focal point, lets kick off all of the kids that don't have records so we have more schollies for those that are "big time". What the heck - if anything goes wrong we can blame it all on Tressel. That's the mantra anyhow.
GO PenGuins
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Remember, its the gun not the person and everyone can be reformed........
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Can we rename the "Ice Castle" the "Big House"?
I'm good with giving kids second chances. It works out for everyone. The kids get another shot at a college career, fans get to savor the taste of victory again, and restaurants and vendors around campus make a few extra bucks. win-win-win.
Welcome Elijah. We are glad to have you with us.
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Remember, its the gun not the person and everyone can be reformed........
Are you serious?
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Remember , it's the spoon & fork thats at fault for obesity , not the diet. ::)
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Penguinpower.... Its SARCASM but isnt that what some people think?
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Really not trying to be disrespectful because Tressel is obviously a great coach and his record speaks for itself. But to say he is better than Urban Meyer is delusional. Urban Meyer outcoached Tressel in that National Championship game as well as Les Miles that is not arguable. Tressel was way too conservative, too many games Tressel played not to lose instead of trying to win.
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Penguinpower.... Its SARCASM but isnt that what some people think?
You are right.....that's what people really think. Glad it is sarcasm....too many in the Valley think the other way and it holds the area back.
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Really not trying to be disrespectful because Tressel is obviously a great coach and his record speaks for itself. But to say he is better than Urban Meyer is delusional. Urban Meyer outcoached Tressel in that National Championship game as well as Les Miles that is not arguable. Tressel was way too conservative, too many games Tressel played not to lose instead of trying to win.
I don't know who outcoached who in those games, I think OSU had the weaker overall teams in both. Id in the 4 championship games at YSU I thought Tressel had the best players in only 1 of them. When he won at OSU he definitely hand the second best team in the game. Guy can coach. Everybody says "too conservative" but look at the number of times he went 4 wideouts etc. and it rhetoric doesn't match the game tapes. Knocking JT as a football coach on a YSU blog is something of a risk!
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Agreed Tressel had the weaker team in every National Championship with the exception being the 1994 Championship game that YSU played in.
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I think he especially had the weaker team in 1994. The guins had more depth though. Just such different styles of ball, you knew that one was going to dominate the other & I honestly thought it was going to be Boise State. The shoe was on the other foot for coach T in 2006 & 1999.
Not to turn this into an OSU thread, as we can take it to the non_YSU threads if people want to; but as to who is the better coach ...I think Tressel is so far above Meyer it is not even worth the conversation ...and ask anyone here ...I was far from a Tressel fan at YSU. After he changed our style of offense to a "buckeye preview pro-set" back in 1998 (really it began back in 1995) ...I was happy to see him go. So sayng he is better than Meyer is not me being a "blind Tressel-lover". You cannot judge a coach by the letters (X's & O's ...W's and L's); if you did, Wolf would still be here. Right now the Buckeyes have ZERO personality (on or off the field) and that is a direct reflection on the coach. Meyer is the worst hire OSU could have ever made & you knew he was coming from day-1. For those of you that are history buffs, imagine Rommel taking over the British-3rd or US-5th army in WWII. Traitorous is the only way to describe that or Meyer's choice at OSU & it does not matter if he wins 8 big-10 titles and 6 national championships in a 10-year career in Columbus ...Meyer will still be the best coach in U of F history, crushing the big-10 at every opportunity ...and that will be his top-accomplishment. His best accomplishments at OSU can only be an expected continuation of the same; giving SEC fans the opportunity to say "I told you so" & "it took an SEC man" to turn the Big-10 around. In reality ...2 former Penguin coaches have done the most to turn the big-10 around. Tressel and Dantonio.
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Tressel himself said that the only YSU team that was the best was 1994's.
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IAA Fan:
SEC fans have blinders. Urban was an graduate assistant for Earle at Ohio State and close friends of the Bruce family. He graduated from Cincy and coached at Bowling Green...No SEC there.
Saban was at Michigan State until SEC money took him south
and Les Miles .... former Ohio State coach. Just to name a few.
OK enough about them on a PenGuin site.
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Tressel himself said that the only YSU team that was the best was 1994's.
Oh I believe you and Tress ...I am just saying that I did not think we could match up with Boise State's speed and height outside, but we just man-handled them up front. I was at the game & even the BSU fans could not believe how badly we crushed their teams' run-game & got to their QB. We had so much more depth in the trenches, but they had better skill and special teams. Quicker secondary as well. Also, they had no idea what that third back behind the the QB was for ...LOL. I have picture of Chris Samarone (don't quote me on the player) picking up their QB and driving him into the ground with one arm and taking down the guard with the other. The most impressive feat of D-line play that I have ever seen. When I find it ...I will post it.
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Can we rename the "Ice Castle" the "Big House"?
I'm good with giving kids second chances. It works out for everyone. The kids get another shot at a college career, fans get to savor the taste of victory again, and restaurants and vendors around campus make a few extra bucks. win-win-win.
Welcome Elijah. We are glad to have you with us.
THE BIG HOUSE? and I thought THUGSTOWN STATE was good! Here's another T-shirt I have to find! ;D
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This seems like such a long time and it is going sooooooooooooooo slowly!
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It does seem slow, but it will be here before you know it. Plus in a shorter period of time, it will be fall camp and there will be more to talk about. So it will go by even faster (or maybe slower since we will be so excited and talking about it so much lol)
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1st fall practice is 3 weeks away!
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I wonder how many of these transfers actually enroll, start classes and play? I believe history would say about half actually show up and contribute. One of the things we 1-AA'ers seem to believe is the 1-A players are head and shoulders about our talent and that just isn't so. Does anybody remember the OSU transfer "the second coming of TE John Mackey" Louis Irizarry? He was OK, but certainly not great, and who can ever forget QB Najee Tyler, transfered from BIG10 Purdue. Many of these guys leave because they can't get playing time at 1-A level and thnk 1-AA will be easier, and often it doesn't work out. So we'll see. The transfer DE's seem like players with other issues than playing time, so if they can stay straight (again, usually a huge issue) they could really help.
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go guins, very good points. Our track record with transfers is not impressive. I do like players that transfer for the right reasons; namely, coming home or escaping a log jam on a depth chart. That is why I am very excited about Powell.
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go guins, very good points. Our track record with transfers is not impressive. I do like players that transfer for the right reasons; namely, coming home or escaping a log jam on a depth chart. That is why I am very excited about Powell.
Powell is the one that doesn't excite me. He is leaving MSU because he can't get on the field. That usually doesn't fix itself at 1-AA. He is a "tweener" Too slow for DB, too small for LB. That usually transfers right along with the player.
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From the sounds of it from the Tribune Chronicle article from today about YSU's transfers, Bo Pelini can be quoted as saying there was alot of interest for transfers from many players, and he only accepted the ones that he felt could help out (by potentially playing or at least adding depth were he felt was weak). Plus, he had nothing but good things to say about Jayln Powell, but he did say that any of the transfers would have to earn their playing time and compete for the starting spots in the fall like everyone else. So if your comments about him ring true, you'll notice he won't be starting. Not disagreeing with your assessment of him being a tweener, but just saying he may indeed be relevant.
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Actually, I look for Powell to contribute immediately. He had a good start at MSU early and they were loaded. I'd look for him to play SS here. MSU moved him to a LB because they were light there and Powell could play, even as an undersized one as he could light them up on tackles. Powell wasn't keen on playingh LB and he loo0ks to play at the next level after college, which won't be at LB. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried him at weakside LB here either, but he won't be thrilled. Major hitter, good field sense, pass D was good at MSU ( but the secondary was loaded there) and nothing wrong with his speed. YSU should be improved in the secondary and have some depth. Wouldn't hurt for him to pick up 5-10 lbs.
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Agree with Paladin--I think Powell will be a starter at Strong Safety and have an immediate impact--supposedly he is quicker than his 4.52 time in the 40--time will tell.
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I am confident in saying he will be a drastic improvement from what we have seen the last 5 years in the secondary. We had players out of position and receivers over top of the defense more times then not. The less tackles our secondary makes the better our defense will be.....
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Remains to be soon. That defense can take all the help it can get!
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Remains to be soon. That defense can take all the help it can get!
Amen to that!
I believe half the problem was we recruited offensive players and not enough talent on defense, but also we played so passively on defense it was a huge turn-off to me. I would get in the car after a game and listen to the radio recap and they were telling me the star of the defense was Julius Childs and I was wondering if they watched the same game as I did? Set up 15 yards off the line, let the receiver drive 12 yards downfield, turn back and catch a 10 yard hook. Over and over and over. Good grief he had 14 tackles against Duquesne and 11 against Butler to open the home season. Now don't get me wrong, I think Julius Childs might made a better cooking show host than a CB, but a lot of that was the coaching game plan too. We scored enough to win, just gave up WAY too many to make the playoffs. Pelini seems much more aggressive on D and that alone may be enough.
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Remains to be soon. That defense can take all the help it can get!
Amen to that!
I believe half the problem was we recruited offensive players and not enough talent on defense, but also we played so passively on defense it was a huge turn-off to me. I would get in the car after a game and listen to the radio recap and they were telling me the star of the defense was Julius Childs and I was wondering if they watched the same game as I did? Set up 15 yards off the line, let the receiver drive 12 yards downfield, turn back and catch a 10 yard hook. Over and over and over. Good grief he had 14 tackles against Duquesne and 11 against Butler to open the home season. Now don't get me wrong, I think Julius Childs might made a better cooking show host than a CB, but a lot of that was the coaching game plan too. We scored enough to win, just gave up WAY too many to make the playoffs. Pelini seems much more aggressive on D and that alone may be enough.
That statement could not be more true!!!! Wow.
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Actually, I look for Powell to contribute immediately. He had a good start at MSU early and they were loaded. I'd look for him to play SS here. MSU moved him to a LB because they were light there and Powell could play, even as an undersized one as he could light them up on tackles. Powell wasn't keen on playingh LB and he loo0ks to play at the next level after college, which won't be at LB. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried him at weakside LB here either, but he won't be thrilled. Major hitter, good field sense, pass D was good at MSU ( but the secondary was loaded there) and nothing wrong with his speed. YSU should be improved in the secondary and have some depth. Wouldn't hurt for him to pick up 5-10 lbs.
Let's see ...slated as one of the top-10 players on defense ...perhaps even top-5. Played at a big-10 school and HS at S and LB. So you are predicting him to play at YSU as S or LB? So what is there to analyze? He was not brought here to snap the ball. ::)
So was that your one allotted positive post of the year, or did you go to Harding? ;)
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I was responding to go guins comment, who, like you, knows next to nothing about football. I always have positive comments on here, just not EVERY ONE as you would like, being the leader of the "cheerleaders". I always hate to let the BS pass for facts here and will respond. The "cheerleaders" have no problem ripping the players but holding up losers like the AD or praising a coach who hasn't even coached his first game after failing at the last level. Cheerleaders and BS artists ............... that why I come................ to add some reality to the site.
Perspective. ;D ;D ;D
P.S. -- not from the area , so I didn't go to Harding. That, however, is one of the few places in the area Pelini should recruit. And Florida !!
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Paladin, I would like to say that while I disagree with your comments sometimes, it does make the discussion different. Also you said you arent from the area. You mean you arent from youngstown or arent from warren (harding) area?
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Central Ohio. Go Bucks ! 8)
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Pelini wasn't a failure at Nebraska. He wasn't a failure anywhere he has been. Couldn't disagree with that comment Pally.
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So if youre from Central Ohio, why root for the Penguins?
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Remains to be soon. That defense can take all the help it can get!
Amen to that!
I believe half the problem was we recruited offensive players and not enough talent on defense, but also we played so passively on defense it was a huge turn-off to me. I would get in the car after a game and listen to the radio recap and they were telling me the star of the defense was Julius Childs and I was wondering if they watched the same game as I did? Set up 15 yards off the line, let the receiver drive 12 yards downfield, turn back and catch a 10 yard hook. Over and over and over. Good grief he had 14 tackles against Duquesne and 11 against Butler to open the home season. Now don't get me wrong, I think Julius Childs might made a better cooking show host than a CB, but a lot of that was the coaching game plan too. We scored enough to win, just gave up WAY too many to make the playoffs. Pelini seems much more aggressive on D and that alone may be enough.
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I am from Central Ohio. I drive past the shoe every Friday night in the fall to go see the guins. I have turned down countless OSU tickets. I even drive up for the games that are televised & I cannot pick them up ...although that does not happen much anymore.
I do not dislike OSU, in fact my daughter graduated from OSU & I bought her season passes every year until she had a baby & not she does not have time. However, She has had a season pass for YSU games since 1986 (when I first found out my wife and I were going to have a baby). I am really not a big sports fan ...I am a big Penguins fan. I set up my tailgate when it is still dark outside, so there is no one at the parking booth to complain. It is just a matter of having priorities. Working on the web site takes up my free time, so I simply listen to sports radio for the news. Then mostly I read the internet for I-AA/FCS news.
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IAA Fan, my question was directed towards paladin since he said he was from central ohio. But your description also intrigues me. Dont get me wrong, I'm glad your a fan, Im just curious what caused you to be such a big penguin fan? Did you attend YSU?
For myself, I grew up in youngstown. My family is from youngstown for 2 generations. Then we moved to the suburbs when I turned 12. Everyone who has graduated college in my entire family is a ysu graduate for at least their undergraduate degree. My uncle was even a ysu policeman back in the day and would take me to the games he had to work with my cousins when i was a child in the 90s and tressel was the coach.
So you can say I was basically born a YSU fan, but I also attended YSU for my undergrad (and now for my masters) and even if I hadnt "grown up YSU" I would have become a fan then because I was attending the school.
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Also want to thank you for your efforts with this website. I do imagine it is a good amount of work to upkeep. Also curious, do you have to pay for the hosting of the website? I would assume this is not sponsored by the university?
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Also, penguin nation, its 48 days today. The game was 7 weeks away from yesterday and 7x7 minus 1 means 48.
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Also, penguin nation, its 48 days today. The game was 7 weeks away from yesterday and 7x7 minus 1 means 48.
That's what happens when you go to school in Ohio. :D One day closer is even better!
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Yes I grew up in Ytown and went to YSU. I went to Canfield HS and then YSU. My father taught and was a department head at YSU from 1975, until he retired in the early 2000's. He was on the athletic committee almost that entire time, so I was very familiar with the athletic department.
I do pay for the site, but it is not much. When I first created the site in it';s current form I had to paya man to program and that was expensive, but after that it became more time than money. If there is some programming to be done, then it may cost a bit more. Outside of that, it cost about $20-a-month + about $60 a year for the domains. I started the site when I was at an alumni/Penguin club function and a couple of the guys from the Penguin Club asked if I would create a BBS. Some of you may remember that back in the early 90's, Yahoo came out with BBS sites ...that is how we started out. Eventually I learned some programming and made the site.
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Ah ok, see thats kinda what I figured. It would have been really intriguing if you had been from central ohio and been such a fan, having no ties to the area. But thanks again for your monetary and time donations that make this site possible. Have you ever considered putting advertising on the site so it doesn't cost as much to run?
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Yes, but then I would probably have to drop all of the YSU logos and such, that they are nice enough to let me use. The NCAA would not allow me to profit from YSU without paying fees (if at all). If the site had more of a following then I might still consider it; but right now, I like it as is. It would be nice if some of the classes from YSU could step in and help out. We have a very solid computer and comptech programs.
When I was attending YSU (80-85) we started a local radio station that we broadcast on a side band. Within a coup0le of ears, we were broadcasting jazz and news to shut-ins and also Rock music on a wired network that ran through YSU's campus. About 35 students per quarter received credit. We had several news writers/editors, lots of DJ's. It was fun and educational.
The key is that YSU does not want to police the board & I do not blame them, it is very difficult at times. I want the fans to be able to speak what is on their minds & not feel that YSU is "pulling the strings".
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Ah, well I understand your position. I asked because I assumed there was something I had not considered that was the reason you didn't advertise on here.
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1-AA, I think going to advertising is going to make this more work than it's worth for you, but is there a way to get you a donation through perhaps PayPal or some other way? A post office box might cost more than any donations received, but I wouldn't put my address on an Internet Blog, god knows who might be reading!
You come up with a way to get you the money and I'm "in" as at least one appreciative blogger.
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We (as a site) are larger than most people think. This board is the most popular part of the site. It gets over 600 regular readers (does not mean posters) and has over 500 members. However, many of those are probably duplicates, as people have more than one account. SO if you assume everyone has a duplicate, we would have over 250 regulars.
During football, we get about 12k hits a day ...with the average person coming back about 4-times a day. So that means we get about 3k unique visitors a day during football season. The day we hired Pelini, the site had almost 50k hits ...over 20k of them came during the press conference. When we announced the Hiring of Wolf, it was not quite as much, but still pretty high. The day we announced Tressel was leaving was our largest day ever at over 100k.
The difference between this board and the rest of the site is that people come back often to the board and many stay logged in all the time.
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We (as a site) are larger than most people think. This board is the most popular part of the site. It gets over 600 regular readers (does not mean posters) and has over 500 members. However, many of those are probably duplicates, as people have more than one account. SO if you assume everyone has a duplicate, we would have over 250 regulars.
During football, we get about 12k hits a day ...with the average person coming back about 4-times a day. So that means we get about 3k unique visitors a day during football season. The day we hired Pelini, the site had almost 50k hits ...over 20k of them came during the press conference. When we announced the Hiring of Wolf, it was not quite as much, but still pretty high. The day we announced Tressel was leaving was our largest day ever at over 100k.
The difference between this board and the rest of the site is that people come back often to the board and many stay logged in all the time.
Very interesting information. In any case, you deserve all the credit. Thanks for your efforts on behalf of all good YSU fans!
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Yepper Dan, we do appreciate this site and what you have and continue to do.
It's Don
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Emails I received in past from 1AA Fan are signed as Dan.
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Emails I received in past from 1AA Fan are signed as Dan.
Sorry, you're correct
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I am Dan ...although most call me Pete because of the site used to be named "Pete's". Although I was born and spent my early years in Cali, I spent my teen through twenties in Ytown. I went to Canfield and YSU. I have lived in Columbus for the past 20 years. My daughter graduated HS from JFK (Warren) and college from tOSU.
My family is all from the Ytown area. My maternal grandmother was an Irish immigrant (thus the name Danny). Her kids all went to Ursuline. My father's family farmed apples off Silica Road (across from the new casino). He went to Fitch & then graduated from Carnegie in Pittsburgh. Interesting story about my dad ...he still holds the Fitch and Ohio state records in intermediate hurdles, because the state discontinued the sport while he held the records ...so he will hold the records forever. My father taught at Carnegie-Mellon (then Tech), Cal-Tech, USC (I am still somewhat a Trojan fan), and then YSU.
My uncle Danny played QB for Ursuline & they won two state titles. I think it was 1944 and 1945. He then went on to play at Marquette, of course they had football back then.
I did not do much in the way of sports. I played frosh football & was on track for 4-years at CHS. No sports at YSU. I played baseball from little league through pony, then coached (8-10) for a few years at McCune Park on Shields Rd. My daughter played HS basketball.
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1-AA Dan or should it be Dan 1-AA?
For now I'm going with 1-AA. Anyway, I'd really enjoy your computer generated 1-AA poll. (they can take their BCS FCS crap and stuff it. Especailly now that the BCS participates in a FCS! ) Not sure what your social media plans are, but when you get around to it, I'm sure a bunch of us would enjoy your poll.
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The poll (or ranking) starts out with the previous year's final poll, then I average that with the coaches preseason and the order that the teams are predicted to finish in their conference (I do use a little personal opinion there, but it is mostly from SI). I then factor in schedule strength (based on previous year's finish). I rank the conference number 1's at the top of the first-poll, so as to be fair to all conferences. From then on out, it is all based on who you play & how you perform. Sub-FCS games get a flat point and FBS games get points awarded on their rank in the FBS power poll. As a result. teams that play an all-FCS schedule have an advantage. I expect every team to win, so even if a team schedules a money-game, it makes no difference ...you lose, you drop. The reason I did this is because the purpose of the poll/rank is to determine the teams to go to the play-off. Additionally, many teams are very good (Penn, Holy-Cross, Florida A&M, Duquesne, Dayton and others) but play in a poor conference. This way they can still earn a sport in the play-off. Conference games are factored at a lower rate the OOC games, as they are traditionally more difficult; same with away games vs home. Then we adjust each week.
For example. teams 1-24 get 10-points for the coming week. If they play a weaker opponent, they lose points. There are a number of factors that add or remove starting points. So if #5 is playing #55, and the difference is 13.5 points ...#5 has to beat #55 by 13.5-points just to break-even, as I expect them to win. In some cases, weaker teams will play well against a better opponent and they will actually earn more points than the winner. These points are then added to the final score of each game. I then award points as follows:
1-point for each 7-points scored. So if you score 24-points, your team will receive 3.4 points. The reason that I do this is just in case a team has a bad game, they are not penalized too harshly.
The point factors are always the same, but amounts will vary each week of the season. We assume injuries and other items to take their toll on teams. At the end of the regular-season we take the #1's from each conference and put them in the post-season as AQ's. We rank the conferences overall and within each region. Then we round out the at-large participants based on NCAA region and total points. This is to ensure that each region and conference is fairly-represented. We end the poll on the last day of the regular-season; as it is not fair for a team who keeps on playing to have opportunity to move up, when another team does not.
A lot of people hate the way I set up the rankings, because they feel the top-16, 24, or whatever teams should go ...I do not feel that way. I feel that recruiting is damaged when a conference dominates. For example, the OVC has been down for a while, but historically they are a top-conference ...same goes with the SoCon. Recruits are going to skip going to local schools, or conference schools based on the ability to go to the post-season. Thus conferences never have tough teams. Now if recruits know that the OVC has the same number of team going to the post-season, they will not skip to the MVFC, MEAC, or CAA. In the end it is much more fair.
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Football practice is just around the corner. I believe the official practices start on Monday August 3rd. I 'm curious of all the transfers, if indeed they are on the roster and or are there others not mentioned.
What ever; I believe it will be an exciting season and we have three tough conference games here at the "Ice Castle". NDSU, ILL.ST and SDSU. I hope we don't have any serious injuries during the practice schedule and everyone is healthy for the opening game at Pitt.
GO PENGUINS!!!!
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A few thoughts with the Pitt game just around the corner. Pitt plays the 10th strongest non-conference slate in the nation. Most insiders have them picked to finish 2-2 out of conference and finish 6th in the coastal region of the A.C.C. just ahead of Virginia. I certainly think there a much better team then that. Offensively they have a very good line with one of the better tight ends in the nation. It's know secret what they want to do with RB Conner and WR Boyd on the outside. They certainly have the ability to put up big numbers and score points. It will be a very big test for the Y.S.U. defense and the incoming transfers on defense will be much needed in this game. Defensively Pitt is a work in progress. I do believe the Y.S.U. offense will be able to move the ball effectively and score points in this one. I look for a higher score game that will be decided by 3 to 7 points. It would be nice to get this one. The conference opener at South Dakota will not be easy. Many close games await in conference play and even coach Pelini would say the same.
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Fever, you think this will be a close game in score? I have also been of that opinion, but I think YSU has the advantage even if the defense shows up. Basically really hard for YSU to lose if Boyd was suspended, but I'm thinking he'll play.
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Fever, you think this will be a close game in score? I have also been of that opinion, but I think YSU has the advantage even if the defense shows up. Basically really hard for YSU to lose if Boyd was suspended, but I'm thinking he'll play.
Yo- There's a very good chance you could see 55 plus points between the 2 schools. Y.S.U. has a excellent chance in this game and I see the winner by 7 or fewer. Both offenses are way ahead of the defenses at this point. Narduzzi is know dummy and we'll aware that he needs Boyd in this game. That's why he was held out of team functions most recently as part of his discipline. He will start and play the entire game. This is a very intriguing match-up for various reasons. I feel there will be a sense of urgency for both teams considering what's at stake and the schedule that follows for each program..this game is pivotal early on. Win at Pitt and Y.S.U. could afford to go .500 in conference play and sneak into the post-season. Lose at Pitt and you would have to win the elusive 5th game in conference. .easier said then done because of the top to bottom strength of the M.V.C...I think we learned that last season especially in loses to Western, Illinois St, and Indiana St...games in my opinion I thought we had
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Let's not get carried away here. Pitt has better players at most positions. They are at home. And there is the matter of the memory of what we did on that field three years ago. Fortunately, Pitt is not Ohio State or Michigan State, and that gives us at least a puncher's chance. But to expect to win this game is completely unrealistic. The season starts in the fourth game at South Dakota. 5-3 in the league is "doable" if Pelini can change the culture.
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Let's not get carried away here. Pitt has better players at most positions. They are at home. And there is the matter of the memory of what we did on that field three years ago. Fortunately, Pitt is not Ohio State or Michigan State, and that gives us at least a puncher's chance. But to expect to win this game is completely unrealistic. The season starts in the fourth game at South Dakota. 5-3 in the league is "doable" if Pelini can change the culture.
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Fair enough. I think we have better than the 22 percent chance (at least I think that was what it was) that massey ratings give us though, and I do believe it will be a close game. But I really hope they are prepared to face illinois state and NDSU this year...
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JMU's $$ game against SMU is in week four, which is better then week one.
If we played our 1-AAA teams in weeks one and two, we would have a 2-0 record and rising fan excitement. If you lose to Pitt on week three, then you still can boast a winning record going into conference play.
My fear is that a loss to Pitt, after years of underachievement, will bring about a "same old, same old" attitude and an early dismissive feeling amongst the casual fans.
Pitt is not the toughest team on our schedule, but the most important game of the season IMO.
This YSU team is a more talented team with a wiser HC than the one that beat Pitt. Last year, Akron beat Pitt. It could happen....but if I had to set the spread, I'd say Pitt minus 10, Over/under 45.
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Fair enough. I think we have better than the 22 percent chance (at least I think that was what it was) that massey ratings give us though, and I do believe it will be a close game. But I really hope they are prepared to face illinois state and NDSU this year...
We were prepared to face both teams last year. They both had better teams. What we can't do this year is lose to teams like Indiana State at home. Games we had no business losing to last year.
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JMU's $$ game against SMU is in week four, which is better then week one.
If we played our 1-AAA teams in weeks one and two, we would have a 2-0 record and rising fan excitement. If you lose to Pitt on week three, then you still can boast a winning record going into conference play.
My fear is that a loss to Pitt, after years of underachievement, will bring about a "same old, same old" attitude and an early dismissive feeling amongst the casual fans.
Pitt is not the toughest team on our schedule, but the most important game of the season IMO.
This YSU team is a more talented team with a wiser HC than the one that beat Pitt. Last year, Akron beat Pitt. It could happen....but if I had to set the spread, I'd say Pitt minus 10, Over/under 45.
I would't say they are more talented now than the last time we played Pitt.... That offense was experienced and battle tested with Hess, Cook, Shaw, Berrassa, Stubbs, Bryan and an experienced O-Line. Dominated and kept Pitt off balanced all game long.
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JMU's $$ game against SMU is in week four, which is better then week one.
If we played our 1-AAA teams in weeks one and two, we would have a 2-0 record and rising fan excitement. If you lose to Pitt on week three, then you still can boast a winning record going into conference play.
My fear is that a loss to Pitt, after years of underachievement, will bring about a "same old, same old" attitude and an early dismissive feeling amongst the casual fans.
Pitt is not the toughest team on our schedule, but the most important game of the season IMO.
This YSU team is a more talented team with a wiser HC than the one that beat Pitt. Last year, Akron beat Pitt. It could happen....but if I had to set the spread, I'd say Pitt minus 10, Over/under 45.
I would't say they are more talented now than the last time we played Pitt.... That offense was experienced and battle tested with Hess, Cook, Shaw, Berrassa, Stubbs, Bryan and an experienced O-Line. Dominated and kept Pitt off balanced all game long.
IMO, Wells is more mobile and better then Hess, and Ruiz > Cook. Our defense I suspect will be better. Hess and especially Stubbs had one of the best games of their collegiate careers. Everything seemed to go our way that night. I think the Pitt team will be much better then the one we faced before, tho.
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Overall YSU has the more talented roster then Pitt, but not necessarily the dynamic playmaker's. Hands down Shane Montgomery is the best offensive coordinator at the FCS level. Look for him to have Wells pull it down and run more this season the kid can move. If Wells and Ruiz can come up big and the offense can take care of the football and the defense can find some creative ways to get off the field on 3rd down and force some turnovers along the way I like the penguins in this game 31-27
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I was wondering if Pitt would be caught looking ahead to the Akron game the week after the YSU game, since Pitt's loss to Akron was fresher. Interesting to note that Massey ranks YSU (100) much higher than Akron (129), gives Pitt a higher % chance of victory over Akron, and predicts a larger margin of victory over Akron.
Slim chance. They'll be ready for us.
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=6236&s=279541
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Overall YSU has the more talented roster then Pitt, but not necessarily the dynamic playmaker's. Hands down Shane Montgomery is the best offensive coordinator at the FCS level. Look for him to have Wells pull it down and run more this season the kid can move. If Wells and Ruiz can come up big and the offense can take care of the football and the defense can find some creative ways to get off the field on 3rd down and force some turnovers along the way I like the penguins in this game 31-27
The trouble is that Pitts HC has prepared against Shane's offense when he was the DC at MSU. He has the experience/knowledge to do it again. The second half of the YSU/MSU game was not pretty. I hope the Pitt's defense is not as good as those at MSU. Hess could not throw a deep ball and I hope Shane might be able to come up with some deep throws with Wells to loosen up the D.
He also knows that YSU is probably better than the Zips. Therefore, IMO, he is not going to look ahead to Akron. Knowing the history, there is no way he wants to lose to YSU at home.
Go penguins!
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That's a very good point Double Et. I'm fully aware of Narduzzi 's history at M.S.U. and the match-up problems the Guins had against his defense. .again 2 different types of defenses and he doesn't have near that talent at Pitt. Montgomery was limited to what he could do in those games..I think it will be different this time around.
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And don't forget Coach Sims is at Pitt also.
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Not sure how relevant Coach Sims being there is. Our defensive schemes will be different under Pelini, so his knowledge of our defense will be... irrelevant? I suppose he could have other info... but back to the discussion on Pitts team. Everyone is saying Pitts defense will be improved if only technically due to the new schemes Narduzzi will be using.
Expect there to be breakdowns in coverage at times on both teams, considering both teams are learning new defensive schemes. But seriously, the overall Pitt talent level on the defensive side of the ball is rather low so I hear.
YSU should have better talent, especially at defensive end and our linebackers, than Pitt dare I say. In fact, linebacker is the big question mark for Pitt right now.
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Not sure how relevant Coach Sims being there is.
Simms knows our offense quite well. I don't see much change there.
Anyone know the status of Ryan Moore? Last I heard he will be out for this season also.
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Fair enough then. I guess having that knowledge is a valid concern.
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Good mention on Sims, Scarlet. It will be interesting. I think Simms is more of an X's and O's & he was very active on the field during games. I am not sure he has as much responsibility at Pitt & not sure he is much of a strategist. I will tell you one thing ...Shane Montgomery is a quality strategist. Now that he is here .. Carl Pelini is one he!! of a coach as well.
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Good mention on Sims, Scarlet. It will be interesting. I think Simms is more of an X's and O's & he was very active on the field during games. I am not sure he has as much responsibility at Pitt & not sure he is much of a strategist. I will tell you one thing ...Shane Montgomery is a quality strategist. Now that he is here .. Carl Pelini is one he!! of a coach as well.
IAA: From what I heard, Sims could break down the opponents game plan, but was held too much in check by the past two DC's as it went against their philosophy more than game plan. I don't think Sims ever had the responsibility at YSU to change the course of the defense. He certainly didn't keep fresh legs on the field and I heard him say that he was obligated to play the full scholarship kids first. Not sure what his reasoning was and he didn't elaborate. Narduzzi runs the show without a doubt just as Carl Pelini does; however, I believe Pitt has a much better supporting cast.
As far as Shane Montgomery being a quality strategist, I haven't been impressed, but I am not here to argue that point. I certainly hope you are correct in that observation! We had a few glimpses of a hurry up offense that seemed to work well compared to watching the game clock evaporate. New regime - New season.
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Camp starts today! 1st practice is set for tomorrow!
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Considering the practices being "open" but closed if construction forces them to the WATTS, I wonder how much coverage we will see of fall practices?
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Hype vid. Enjoy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJWwwfjLDxs&feature=youtu.be
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AWESOME HYPE VIDEO!!!!! IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS SEASON fb ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Love the video, with one glaring negative. BOY ARE THERE A TON OF EMPTY SEATS!! Hopefully we fix that problem this season! Go Guins!!
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Question:
Students come back on the 19th. Is there any where on campus that these "hype videos" can be played that the students can easily view? Seems like a good promotional opportunity and a way to generate interest.
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Solomon Warfield, a DB transfer from Iowa is on the roster. Played high school ball at St. Ed's.
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Article i read says he was "an area code away from playing time" at Iowa. With our depth at db this year from other transfers and original recruits, not sure if he will have an impact here?
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Article i read says he was "an area code away from playing time" at Iowa. With our depth at db this year from other transfers and original recruits, not sure if he will have an impact here?
Always good to have more depth.
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Hype vid. Enjoy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJWwwfjLDxs&feature=youtu.be
They should be playing this hype video in the YSU Bookstore from the time it opens until the time it closes each day non stop all day long.
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Hype vid. Enjoy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJWwwfjLDxs&feature=youtu.be
They should be playing this hype video in the YSU Bookstore from the time it opens until the time it closes each day non stop all day long.
0505, IMO, we still need starters first! Our defensive backfield has been incredibly porous the entire Wolford tenure. I believe more aggressive coaching will help, but I believe we need all 4 positions to play far better in 2015. I wouldn’t be giving anybody the starting nod, nor relegating anyone to the bench just yet!
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Kudos to Narduzzi for suspending two impact players in his very first game as HC. PN puts his own legacy at Pitt on the line, where other schools would bury it. Boyd is one of the best WRs in the country. That being said, if Conner somehow also gets suspended, I'm taking YSU and the plus 11 and going big.
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The spreads I've seen were Pitt -15.5. Which i already think is a great bet to take for YSU
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YSU + 15.5? Can you even call that gambling? Sounds more like a sound investment. it maybe time to diversify the portfolio.
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Well to me, the disclaimer should say, free money if you pick YSU. But alas, I suppose it is gambling. Even bonds are considered to be invested with "some" risk even if it is a low probability the government will default lol.
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5Dimes.com odds:
YSU +12
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Well to me, the disclaimer should say, free money if you pick YSU. But alas, I suppose it is gambling. Even bonds are considered to be invested with "some" risk even if it is a low probability the government will default lol.
Since you brought the "g-word" into this...I must note that multiple US cities have junk credit ratings, including Chicago. The US credit rating itself was downgraded a few years ago. The island of Puerto Rico....junk also.
So yeah......I'll take my Penguins and 15.5.....12 gives me some concern but still favorable odds.
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Nation, I agree lol. I like those odds on the Guins. Is a very good investment in my opinion. But yeah my line was from 5Dimes.com too, just evidently days old. Betting online is illegal in the U.S. isn't it? Even if the site is located outside the U.S. (like in Europe)?
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Don't you guys just love all of the hype over Montana vs NDSU. Believe me, I am hoping it is all Griz on this one. That being said ...if this one is even within 4-scores ...the Bison are having issues in 2015.
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They are the only college football game playing that week, and the first of the year. And it will be on ESPN so it is getting tons of coverage, which is good for the FCS the way I see it. Why do you want the Griz to win though? Id rather MVFC team win over a big sky team even if its NDSU.
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Don't you guys just love all of the hype over Montana vs NDSU. Believe me, I am hoping it is all Griz on this one. That being said ...if this one is even within 4-scores ...the Bison are having issues in 2015.
I don't get the Grizzly support? First, this is 1-AA against 1-A and I always root for “our” division. Second, we play NDSU and if they win against Montana and we beat the Bison that is better for YSU. If we lose, it doesn’t matter.
Just curious about your choice.
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Go guins, while i agree with you, you are incorrect. Montana and NDSU are both in FCS... so its D1AA vs D1AA
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Go guins, while i agree with you, you are incorrect. Montana and NDSU are both in FCS... so its D1AA vs D1AA
Then all the more reason to root for NDSU, as that leaves us in control of our own destiny. If Montana wins they go to #1 and we don't have them on our schedule. And I know it isn't 1-A and 1-AA anymore, but since they both play fcs what do they call the old FBS?
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It has to do with the number of national titles. I enjoy being #1 active (GA Southern is now IA) and #2 overall. Now, because of a bonehead play by ILS in the championship, we are tied with NDSU for #1 and #2. Since we are unable to keep NDSU out of the post-season on our own (with their recent history, it will take 4-losses at a minimum to keep them out), I have to hope for others to do it for us.
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Sorry 1-AA but IMO, the best way to address that is to win a 5th, not root for more out of conference losses by conference members. (Again, keeps our destiny under our control) Besides, although not impossible for NDSU to miss the playoffs this year, it does look pretty unlikely, doesn't it? Being in the strongest 1-AA conference is to YSU's benefit, long term, and the way to keep that reputation is to win the non-conference games!
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It has to do with the number of national titles. I enjoy being #1 active (GA Southern is now IA) and #2 overall. Now, because of a bonehead play by ILS in the championship, we are tied with NDSU for #1 and #2. Since we are unable to keep NDSU out of the post-season on our own (with their recent history, it will take 4-losses at a minimum to keep them out), I have to hope for others to do it for us.
I agree!
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Fair enough. I think we have better than the 22 percent chance (at least I think that was what it was) that massey ratings give us though, and I do believe it will be a close game. But I really hope they are prepared to face illinois state and NDSU this year...
We were prepared to face both teams last year. They both had better teams. What we can't do this year is lose to teams like Indiana State at home. Games we had no business losing to last year.
You're spot on. Even worse than that lost was the one to WIU.
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Hey YO, where you been? Your late! All day I've been sitting here dreading a trip to Pitts. and the nightmare parking and not knowing how long I have before I have to make the trip!! FINALLY I get an update. Thanks
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Sorry go guins. I had to be at work at 4am this morning and had no time to update it.
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This is better. Now I know when we play!
Thanks YO!
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A few recent articles.
1. At First Glance: Pitt vs. Youngstown State Preview (Cardiac Hill):
http://www.cardiachill.com/2015/8/31/9229765/pitt-vs-youngstown-state-football-pittsburgh-panthers-schedule-tv-line-spread-odds
2. Panthers Are Looking For Payback In Home Opener (CBS Pittsburgh):
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2015/08/31/panthers-are-looking-for-payback-in-home-opener/
3. Narduzzi: 'Ton Of Respect' For Pelini (WKBN):
http://wkbn.com/2015/08/31/narduzzi-ton-of-respect-for-pelini-ysu/
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“To me, it becomes personal now that that happened, and I think it’s great to play with an attitude and play angry,” Narduzzi said. “And that’s what we will try to do, put a little anger in a bottle and throw it out there at 1 o’clock.”
Narduzzi said his team will be looking for payback against the Penguins, but he also expects Youngstown State to come out strong and play like they have something to prove, especially guys that are from Pennsylvania.
“They will come in ready to go, probably guys that would have liked to play at Pitt and didn’t get recruited for whatever reason and have a grudge I guess whenever they come to Pittsburgh,” Narduzzi said.
Sounds like Narduzzi may have respect for Pelini, but not for the team.
Hope we prove him wrong. GO GUINS !!
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Ex-Husker Coach Bo Pelini And Hometown Of Youngstown Seek A Renaissance (Omaha.com)
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/chatelain-ex-husker-coach-bo-pelini-and-hometown-of-youngstown/article_b84a33f7-2d5a-5c2a-8c9e-3f7f684d316a.html
With Opener Looming, Youngstown State Has Panther's Full Attention (Post-Gazette)
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2015/09/01/Pitt-Panthers-shift-complete-focus-toward-Youngstown-State/stories/201509010166
Head Coach Bo Pelini Weekly Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjRmdTjegxk
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I enjoyed that Omaha article. Thanks for the links!
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Pelini's Plan: YSU's Transformation Starts On Defense (Vindicator)
http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/sep/02/pelinis-plan/?newswatch
Youngstown State Looking For Repeat Performance Against Pitt (Pittsburgh Tribune Review)
http://triblive.com/sports/college/pitt/8997051-74/narduzzi-pitt-state#axzz3kaqJWydR
Transfers Could Add To Pitt's Concerns Against Youngstown State (Cardiac Hill)
http://www.cardiachill.com/2015/9/2/9243783/pitt-vs-youngstown-state-jalyn-powell-avery-moss-leroy-alexander-bo-pelini-pittsburgh-panthers
Pitt Needs To Slow Youngstown State Rushing Attack (Cardiac Hill)
http://www.cardiachill.com/2015/8/31/9230383/pitt-football-vs-youngstown-state-penguins-pittsburgh-panthers-martin-ruiz-jody-webb
Pitt vs. Youngstown State: Breaking Down The Two-Deep (Cardiac Hill)
http://www.cardiachill.com/2015/9/1/9228953/Pitt-football-depth-chart-youngstown-state-james-conner-pittsburgh-panthers-jordan-whitehead
Penguins Open Pelini Era With Contest At Pittsburgh On Saturday (YSU Sports.com)
http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/pitt-preview-sept1
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TONS of GREAT LINKS guys!
Thanks!!
BEAT PITT!!
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Familiar Faces Collide As Pitt Readies For Youngstown State (ESPN)
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/84869/familiar-faces-collide-as-pitt-readies-for-ysu
Interview With YSU Offensive Coordinator Shane Montgomery (Rookery Radio)
https://soundcloud.com/thedraesmithshow/shane-montgomery-interview
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2 days!!! #BeatPitt
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WFMJ Penguin Game Day Show (WFMJ)
http://www.wfmj.com/category/286776/ysu-athletics
Former Wash High Standout Kelly At Home On Youngstown State Defense (Observer-Reporter)
http://www.observer-reporter.com/article/20150902/SPORTS02/150909807
Dirk Chatelain discusses his recent Bo Pelini story, Youngstown State and more (Omaha.com)
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/tbl-dirk-chatelain-discusses-his-recent-bo-pelini-story-youngstown/article_21c3d7d0-51c6-11e5-8850-13109398acda.html
Pittsburgh vs. Youngstown State Prediction & Preview (CampusInsiders.com)
http://campusinsiders.com/news/pittsburgh-vs-youngstown-state-prediction-game-preview-09-02-2015
Pitt offensive line still in flux heading into season opener (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2015/09/02/Pitt-Panthers-offensive-line-still-in-flux-heading-into-opener-against-Youngstown-State/stories/201509020205
Movement along the offensive line continues for Pitt as opener approaches (Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)
http://triblive.com/sports/college/pitt/9021495-74/bookser-pitt-start#ixzz3kghTKpao
Doctor Robert: Pitt has several injury questions heading into the week (Cardiac Hill)
http://www.cardiachill.com/2015/9/3/9253601/pitt-football-pittsburgh-panthers-artie-rowell-adam-bisnowaty-darryl-render-injuries
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Pitt offensive line still in flux heading into season opener (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)
Doctor Robert: Pitt has several injury questions heading into the week (Cardiac Hill)
I'm not buying it !
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Pitt offensive line still in flux heading into season opener (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)
Doctor Robert: Pitt has several injury questions heading into the week (Cardiac Hill)
I'm not buying it !
Yes, too much of a ploy.
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ITS GAMEDAY FELLAS!! SEE YOU AT THE GAME! #BeatPitt
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5 hours.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/sep/05/college-football-pelinis-debut-today-as-/