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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: ValleyTalk on January 22, 2015, 08:23:14 PM
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Link is a premium link on Bucknuts: http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/BH-Bad-Blood-Removed-Meyer-Continues-Courting-Myers-34961255
My uncle, a huge Buckeye fan, messaged me the text:
Dunn And Gone? … Multiple sources have informed us Ohio State third-year sophomore running back Bri’onte Dunn could transfer to Youngstown State following spring semester (which ends in late May).
As one source put it: “I’d say there’s a better chance he’ll be at YSU than OSU this fall.”
If Dunn does transfer to YSU, he would be eligible to play immediately – since the Penguins are an FCS (I-AA) team – and have two seasons of eligibility remaining.
The 6-foot, 216-pound Dunn had just nine carries for 63 yards as a third-year sophomore for the national champion Buckeyes in 2014.
A product of Canton GlenOak High, Dunn was ranked as the No. 8 running back in the country and the No. 96 overall prospect in the 2012 class, per the 247Sports Composite.
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Watched him play when GlenOak would come to Boardman... Always seemed a little overrated but hey, It would be a nice addition but Ruiz and Webb seem to have the top 2 spots... Unless Bo promised him the starting spot?
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Watched him play when GlenOak would come to Boardman... Always seemed a little overrated but hey, It would be a nice addition but Ruiz and Webb seem to have the top 2 spots... Unless Bo promised him the starting spot?
I doubt he would promise him a starting job. The kid just wants to play. He is certainly not going to pass Ezekiel Elliott at OSU.
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Watched him play when GlenOak would come to Boardman... Always seemed a little overrated but hey, It would be a nice addition but Ruiz and Webb seem to have the top 2 spots... Unless Bo promised him the starting spot?
I doubt he would promise him a starting job. The kid just wants to play. He is certainly not going to pass Ezekiel Elliott at OSU.
Agreed. Hard to put him past Ruiz here as well. But we will see!
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Kid is a beast who we could play 2 back sets with him and ruiz, only bad thing is webb would probably have to move to wr
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Over-rated and buried on OSU depth chart. Is a power back. YSU has more versatility with Ruiz and more speed and elusiveness with Webb. Would add to an already DEEP bunch of RBs.
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He was just a power back coming out of H.S. Tressel had recruited him because of that. Urban convinced him to not decomitt. I don't think Meyer ever had any plans for Dunn in his system. He didn't want to see him carry the ball in a Michigan St. , Michigan, or Wisconsin uniform 25 times a game for the following 4 years against a weak defense in O.S.U. at that time as crazy as this might sound.
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Over-rated and buried on OSU depth chart. Is a power back. YSU has more versatility with Ruiz and more speed and elusiveness with Webb. Would add to an already DEEP bunch of RBs.
Are you sure about that? He has played this year in a limited role and his stats are not too shabby, especially at the end of the season when their OL was playing much better.
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Over-rated and buried on OSU depth chart. Is a power back. YSU has more versatility with Ruiz and more speed and elusiveness with Webb. Would add to an already DEEP bunch of RBs.
Are you sure about that? He has played this year in a limited role and his stats are not too shabby, especially at the end of the season when their OL was playing much better.
Nothing against R and W but just like the last 5 years of YSU football the team don't seem as impressive when they play someone other than the blind center and Jerry's kids. Anyways.. I'll go out on a limb and say "IF" this kid is 3rd on tOSU's depth chart he's going to be as good or better than what we have now. Bring him on ;)
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...and we don't want a power back for what reason again? Oh yes. It is probably the main reason our defense cannot get off the field in the second half of ball games. It is probably the main reason NDSU has won 4-tiles in a row. It is probably because every team in our conference uses one and we like to be different? ;)
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...and we don't want a power back for what reason again? Oh yes. It is probably the main reason our defense cannot get off the field in the second half of ball games. It is probably the main reason NDSU has won 4-tiles in a row. It is probably because every team in our conference uses one and we like to be different? ;)
Same O-coordinator next year right? Hope this kid can cover kicks because that may be all he gets to do outside of goal line.
Coach M. knows all. Doesn't change his scheme to fit his players.
If he did, our exceptional tight ends would have gotten more targets.
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...and we don't want a power back for what reason again? Oh yes. It is probably the main reason our defense cannot get off the field in the second half of ball games. It is probably the main reason NDSU has won 4-tiles in a row. It is probably because every team in our conference uses one and we like to be different? ;)
Same O-coordinator next year right? Hope this kid can cover kicks because that may be all he gets to do outside of goal line.
Coach M. knows all. Doesn't change his scheme to fit his players.
If he did, our exceptional tight ends would have gotten more targets.
I feel the same way.
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If you search for it, you can find OSU's depth chart. Dunn has really dropped this year. Elliott ( Soph) is the starter with Curtis Samuel ( Fr. ) the back-up. Listed 3rd is Warren Ball ( So.) formerly of Columbus DeSales. Rod Smith (Sr.) was also ahead of him before being suspended.Dunn, in many eyes isn't 4th either and its said that he has been a problem with lack of effort and an attitude problem. I wouldn't be selling Ruiz or Webb short as their abilities are pretty good and no one questions their efforts. Dunn is over rated but is on the OSU team, albeit BURIED on the depth chart. I'll stick with the info I get from friends down there -- bring him on but don't be surprised if he struggles here
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I am now told Dunn is leaving but may not be YSU. OSU is bringing in 4Star RB Mike Weber, the #1 player from Mich who has major offers from USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Mich. and Mich St. and others. Sounds like he is trying to "shopping around".
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http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/54309/ohio-state-rb-brionte-dunn-arrested
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http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/54309/ohio-state-rb-brionte-dunn-arrested
Oh no.....he was found carrying a plant ??!!
Hopefully he didn't jaywalk either!!
Article is from 2012.
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Yep, that's OLD, OLD news. Urban tried to give him a chance this year to play his way back, using him for special teams. Dunn was too "good" for that and loafed his way into the doghouse. Then he copped an attitude. He will never play at Ohio St. and knows it. Now in the process of "shopping" for a coach who will promise him a starting job. ;D ;D ;D
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Just saying that he is not coming without any baggage. Not taking sides either way.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/54309/ohio-state-rb-brionte-dunn-arrested
That was 2 years go.... No big deal.
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yeah that was an old story and if i remember correctly his mother claimed it was her stuff but whatever
rumor was the reason he got buried on the depth chart was because he doesn't want to play special teams and for Urban if you don't play special teams you don't play. At the end of the season after they kicked Rod Smith off the team Dunn was 3rd string behind Elliot and Samual. The Kid reminds me of PJ Mays but who knows
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yeah that was an old story and if i remember correctly his mother claimed it was her stuff but whatever
rumor was the reason he got buried on the depth chart was because he doesn't want to play special teams and for Urban if you don't play special teams you don't play. At the end of the season after they kicked Rod Smith off the team Dunn was 3rd string behind Elliot and Samual. The Kid reminds me of PJ Mays but who knows
I would take another PJ in a heartbeat
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Anything new on the Bri'onte Dunn story? Could really use a power back. I see another little tailback from Erie I think. Love these guys but we have 3 now 4 already. Need a power guy!
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Watched Dunn get handled twice by an undersized Ursuline division 5 Irish team. I could not see what Ohio State saw in him.
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ELPENGUIN, the Bucks have obviously soured on him. I read it was because he doesn't want to play special teams, and I certainly have no insight into that. I suspect it is probably Zeke that is the bigger issue for Dunn, as he is CLEARLY a Sunday player. 213 might not be a power back in the Big 10, but it will get the job done at YSU. Hope we get him. Same with DE from Nebraska. LOTS of talk on recruits, and I'm one that says give'em a chance, but in all honesty I don't see much help this year except maybe DB's since we are SO BAD back there. Anyway, if you or anyone sees anything on Dunn, keep up posted.
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I was under the impression this was not going to happen. As to his special teams play ...he was really good last year. It does still make sense for him to come to YSU, but NFL teams start you out at special teams as well. Maybe that and some limited play will get him in there. I am not sure that will do much, but who knows?
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I assumed the lack of chatter was probably going to indicate a no, but I could hope for a while.
Some guys would rather sit on the bench and see teammates win than play at a lower level and help them win. In the end, I want a guy that wants to play!
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Martin Ruin is probably better than Dunn.
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Martin Ruin is probably better than Dunn.
I think its close but in all honesty why would it matter ? give the ball to each back 15-20 times a game and keep both fresh thru the season and games
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"Martin Ruin is probably better than Dunn."
Maybe, but in the proper situation, give me the extra 20 lbs. One of our weaknesses was closing out games and a big power back late in the game can really help with that! I like Jodie Webb too, but he is even smaller than Ruiz. But in any case, doesn't look promising.
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Ruiz has a problem hanging on to the ball. I think in W.'s mind his pluses outweighed his minuses. Then again, he had a couple key drops last year that in retrospect could have changed the outcome of the season. A different coach might view Ruiz's ability to contribute differently, especially since Ruiz's problem has to do with fundamentals.
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Funny how each of us sees things differently. Actually I see one of Ruiz's strengths is not fumbling. He lost 2 fumbles last season on 265 carries or .7% To compare; Jody Webb lost fumbles on fully 3% of his carries.
Still wish we had recruited a bigger RB. Watched the HUDL video on the Erie recruit Bryce Boyd
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3969399/bryce-boyd
This was so familiar I went back and watched Ruiz’s senior video. Frankly change the names and you’d never know the difference.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1045254/highlights
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I completely agree on the need for a power run game and think Dunn could be the answer. Then again, he is not going to transfer to be only a short-yardage back. He has to assume a spot in Montgomery's offensive plan. I too am very happy with Ruiz and Webb. Too bad we lost Hymes ...he had a very smart running style that was great for short-yardage situations.
I think Webb is going to continue being what he is. His success is predicated on Ruiz. It is like changing pitchers in baseball, with a new pitcher having a different set of pitches than the starter. Like the relief pitcher, Webb really catches defenses off guard.
We can over-use Ruiz at times. This is where Dunn becomes huge for us (and any possible NFL career he may have).
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Ruiz has a nice combination of power and speed. Dunn is a straight give the ball up the middle type of back. Webb has the issues holding onto the ball, but get him in space and it's over. I do like Ryan Moore as a power back. That kid is strong and showed nice flashes last year when the opportunity arose.
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I agree. Moore is under used as a power back. Kid is strong and packs a bang.
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I've been a big fan of Moore since his first spring game. Don't know why he doesn't get more carries. Obviously 5-11 200 isn't the prototypical size for a "power back" but Ryan runs with much more of a power attitude than either Martin or Jody.
You don't always notice the guys that do the little things on the field, but one of the players that we will miss more than we know is Nate Adams who played the blocking back on power run formations. Wonder who fills that roll?
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I agree. Moore is under used as a power back. Kid is strong and packs a bang.
I've been impressed with him too. He's a battler on kick teams and plays ferociously. Way more effective than what the measurements would have you think.
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Agree. Been on the Moore bandwagon since the first time I saw him carry the ball. I also recorded his interview last preseason; he really has a great attitude.
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Is there a reason why Moore was used mostly in the Illinois game and NDSU game?
I feel that he should have been utilized more in the 3rd down situations every game when we would call the Dive with Martin or Nate Adams. Especially with Ryan Moore averaging almost 6ypc.
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Nate was a very popular and influential player. His ability to run the ball was impressive for a TE. Things will be a bit different this year. Can anyone tell me where we are at in the academic semester?
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The semester started the second week of January and finals week is the first week of May. Spring Break is the second week of March.
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Thanks GBS. So Dunn would have transferred for this semester. I suppose he could come in the summer.
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If he does transfer here it won't be until the end of the spring semester that ends in late May. Moore will more then likely come into summer camp at 210-215..If I were Dunn I wouldn't want to compete against Ryan for playing time that kid is a beast and can do so many good things coming out of the backfield
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Meant to post this last week but just thought of it now. Here was an update on Bucknuts:
"**Don’t Put A Fork In Dunn? … A source close to Bri’onte Dunn’s family – the same one that told us earlier this year that Dunn was considering a transfer to Youngstown State – is back with more information.
“I told you there was a decent chance he would stay at OSU, but that I thought there was a better chance he would be at YSU this fall,” the source said. “I need to back off that statement. Trust me, it’s still a strong possibility, but the fact of the matter is Bri’onte is happy at OSU. He just has a lot of people in his ear telling him it’s now or never if he actually wants to play. Those ‘third uncles’ as Urban (Meyer) likes to call them.
“But what they say makes sense because let’s be real, (Dunn) isn’t even competing for a spot on the two-deep. Obviously Zeke (Elliott) is the starter and Curtis Samuel is the backup. That is not changing. So, it’s a battle between Dunn and Warren Ball for third-string. And then Mike Weber gets there in June.
“OSU’s staff wants (Dunn) to stay. They are telling him depth can disappear quickly at the RB spot and they like what he can do on special teams. He played a lot on special teams this past season.
“I don’t know, there’s still a chance he will leave after spring semester, but I wanted to tell you I was probably overstating it when I said there was a better chance he’d be in Youngstown than Columbus this fall. It could go either way, but right now I would lean on him coming back.
“And I don’t think Warren Ball is going anywhere either. He even reached out to Mike Weber during that whole Stan Drayton ordeal and showed some good leadership and commitment to the program. Why would he do that if he was planning on leaving OSU? Plus, he’s a Columbus kid anyway. Dunn is the one who might leave, but again, I think he wants to stay. It’s just people around him urging him now is the time to leave if he wants to actually get playing time as a running back.”"
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I won't lose any sleep if he doesn't show up here.
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I won't lose any sleep if he doesn't show up here.
He may have realized he'd be third on the depth chart here too.
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In complete agreement with 05. He is not needed here. He never did impress me in high school. What is the word I am searching for. I is it "overrated".
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With no Ryan Moore we need this kid more now than ever!
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With all of the OSU injuries ...Dunn is playing this spring, so he will not be going anywhere that I can foresee.
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With all of the OSU injuries ...Dunn is playing this spring, so he will not be going anywhere that I can foresee.
Kid is 4th or 5th string running back come fall camp (behind elliot, samual, ball/frosh rb)
The kid supposedly doesn't like playing special teams and thats the only way he sees the field in cbus
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With all of the OSU injuries ...Dunn is playing this spring, so he will not be going anywhere that I can foresee.
Kid is 4th or 5th string running back come fall camp (behind elliot, samual, ball/frosh rb)
The kid supposedly doesn't like playing special teams and thats the only way he sees the field in cbus
That was the case his first year & maybe even a bit of the second. No he was a clear #2 in special teams last year. Hard core fans liked his style. He also scored in the Big-10 championship, at that point I knew he was staying.