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Title: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on December 27, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
Please add to this thread when you see additional recruits being offered or committing to YSU.

Recruits that committed under Eric Wolford:

James Wilson III
OG 6-5/285 Middletown, NJ

Zak Kennedy
K 6-0/160 Youngstown, OH

Gavin Wiggins
OT 6-4/270 Philadelphia, PA

Recruits that committed under Bo Pelini:

@1Malikl: Committed to play next year at Youngstown State University 🏈🏈🔴⚫️
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Malik-Leonard-159991
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4941435/malik-leonard
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on December 27, 2014, 05:52:53 PM
A little short, but 245lbs.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Double ET on December 27, 2014, 07:46:36 PM
A little short, but 245lbs.
Put him at full back.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: JP21 on December 28, 2014, 12:59:08 AM
Maybe I missed it but where on that site does it say he was recruited by Youngstown State?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on December 28, 2014, 08:04:36 AM
Maybe I missed it but where on that site does it say he was recruited by Youngstown State?
Nowhere, but he tweeted yesterday he committed to Youngstown State. Obviously he received an offer from one of the coaches somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on December 28, 2014, 08:22:52 PM
Kid won't see the field.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on December 28, 2014, 10:10:13 PM
I don't see him playing at MLB, that's for sure. If this is the first Pelini recruit, I'm worried. The 3 kids for Wolf are all solid.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on December 28, 2014, 10:25:11 PM
I don't see him playing at MLB, that's for sure. If this is the first Pelini recruit, I'm worried. The 3 kids for Wolf are all solid.
Being not a single recruiting website shows any new offers since Pelini took over, I'm not quite sure this is a Pelini recruit. Could very well be a kid we offered under Wolf who didn't get the offers he would have hoped so committed to us. Also worth noting Wolf's a$$istants have been still recruiting even since Pelini was hired.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Observer on December 28, 2014, 10:30:53 PM
kid is a dog on tape.  Unless hes a preferred walk-on, whatever strength coach Pelini YSU has in the fall spring better be a miracle worker.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 14, 2015, 07:42:16 AM
Ryan Emans 6"1 180 WR Bowling Green H.S. committed to the penguins in early November. Only other offer was Morehead st.- Highlights available on Scouting ohio and Hudl.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 15, 2015, 11:03:08 AM
This kid is not a strong recruit. Recruiting is not looking good.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 15, 2015, 01:09:10 PM
Found out YSU setting up meeting with all 5 Hubbard Seniors to make offers if any may change there minds with there current offers.  Its a good group maybe if they can get one or 2 would be a big boost to the program.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: mayor on January 15, 2015, 02:51:07 PM
Qb Nathan Mays from Urbana I think says YSU has offered him.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 15, 2015, 03:22:36 PM
Qb Nathan Mays from Urbana I think says YSU has offered him.

Yes, Montgomery offered him last year as a Junior. He had a good senior year and a record-setting HS career. Typical Montgomery QB ...if he was about 3-inches taller, we never would have gotten him. Not seeing where he had any bigger offers this year. Average almost 43-ypp as the teams punter. He run much more this past year. Typical concerns about a lack of upper-division play. (Urbana is D4)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 15, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
This kid is not a strong recruit. Recruiting is not looking good.

I don't know ....video looks real good. I know that it is only highlights, but something is there. I also like that RB/QB from Shaker Heights; I hope he commits. Zinni looks good as well and he committed.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 15, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
YSU has offered Dylan Mabin, a 6-1 DB from Nordonia. Looks a nice athlete.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 15, 2015, 10:59:24 PM
Mabin is a very good athlete, I live in the school district and have seen him play many games.  Good pickup for the Penguins if its true,  I will put my feelers out to find out if its true.  There was a lot of talent on that team this year, good program. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 15, 2015, 11:10:29 PM
Mabin is a very good athlete, I live in the school district and have seen him play many games.  Good pickup for the Penguins if its true,  I will put my feelers out to find out if its true.  There was a lot of talent on that team this year, good program.

Hey thanks!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 16, 2015, 08:29:38 AM
I can't imagine what these recruits must be thinking. A little more then 2 weeks away from National signing day and our staff is know where close to being finalized...NOT GOOD!!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 16, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
I can't imagine what these recruits must be thinking. A little more then 2 weeks away from National signing day and our staff is know where close to being finalized...NOT GOOD!!

I am not even slightly concerned ...we have very few scholarships left. Remember how large the cla$$ was a couple years ago? Way more than we had to offer. What did we pick up with graduation this year ...maybe a dozen (or less)? This year's graduates were the last of a very talented bunch, but not very large. So what if we need to play catch-up with some JUCO's and transfers? Most of the transfers come late. This is where I expect the name of Pelini to start paying dividends.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 16, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
Thanks for explaining that Dan. I'm just frustrated that we've lost so many recruits to the Patriot conference since the departure of Wolford. Not saying we would've landed them all but I watched film on them and most of the players could've had a immediate impact on our program. When recruits built a bond with head coaches and position coaches and then there's major changes they will more then likely move on to their 2nd option . The Juco and transfer options should be good and I look for a great cla$$ in 2016. Maybin would be a great addition if we could land him. The Qb that committed throws a nice ball and can really move well like Ricky, but has poor mechanics and will be a work in progress. The wr Emans is just not fast and explosive enough looks more like a 4.85 player then the 4.55 listed but shows some good vision in the open field and could contribute on special teams.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 18, 2015, 01:15:00 PM
New commit and new offer per Twitter.

New Commit:
Curtis Parks - 6'1", 210lb MLB from Cleveland Central Catholic:
@trendycurt5: I will be playing college football at Youngstown State University ! 🐧💯🏈 http://t.co/cjj2LRLRax

Previously had committed to Bryant:
http://247sports.com/Player/Curtis-Parks-49934
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/588096/curtis-parks

New Offer:
Darius Shackleford - 6'4", 185lb WR from Newark:
@Newark_Football: Congrats to @DeeShack3 picking up an offer from my alma mater Youngstown State! Go Guins. Go cats!

www.hudl.com/athlete/1660732/darius-shackleford
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 18, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
Fever: If we are losing them to the Patriot League, then these are kids looking to further their education ...much more so than play ball. The ones that we lose to Delaware or other teams in the CAA will bother me. These are probably players. So far I have not seen much of that, but have no fear, the CAA really covers PA & the edge of Ohio.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 19, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
Like the potential in both.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 19, 2015, 12:11:54 PM
I agree with Footballfever, the QB Mays and WR Emans are problematic and not strong recruits. THESE 2 additional ones aren't overpowering either. I hope it gets better, much better, but not looking good so far. YSU will be nowhere near the top in the MVFC with these recruits.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 19, 2015, 12:18:52 PM
Keep in mind, we are still pretty young at most positions. The last 2 solid recruiting cla$$es by Wolf are going to see more playing time and those kids have some serious potential especially on the defensive side of the ball. This cla$$ isn't going to make or break the program by any means....
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysupenguin2 on January 19, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
Did Pelini go to Hubbard? I heard he went to Springfield and Western Reserve out in Berlin Center for 2 also-the tall receiver and the huge OG. Sounds like he's looking local
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 19, 2015, 02:05:31 PM
Did Pelini go to Hubbard? I heard he went to Springfield and Western Reserve out in Berlin Center for 2 also-the tall receiver and the huge OG. Sounds like he's looking local

Although they both played inferior competition in high school, if he can get them in and redshirt and develop their bodies I see some potential down the road.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: peteonastick on January 19, 2015, 03:02:21 PM
Malik Leonard won't see the field. Hopper at linebacker. Feet are slow. Hope we get better recruits than this kid.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 19, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
If Bo's answer is to recruit the Valley, then YSU is doomed to losing seasons. Take that to the bank.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 19, 2015, 03:54:47 PM
If Bo's answer is to recruit the Valley, then YSU is doomed to losing seasons. Take that to the bank.

I cannot find that smiley with a gun to it's head. What you say is true, if you read it literally. You infer that is his ONLY solution. Obviously we cannot find enough local talent to field a great team. You know as well as I do how attached the Valley is to HS ball.  Clearly increasing local talent on the team (in the words of Martha Stewart) is a good thing. Hiring Pelini is also a good thing. All of these little items add up to increased attention, excitement and hopefully attendance.

It will be Pelini and his staff that make it happen "on the field". Do you think there is much out there, that we as fans know, that a coach, AD, or president that is former coach/AD does not? At this point, the only thing that you can "take to the bank" are the receipts from a first-home game sell-out. After that, the team will bring the fans back for more.

Can you not just say something similar to the fact that YSU does not get top talent locally and will obviously still need to recruit nationally? This is why you draw such criticism from people on the board Paladin. It is the way you package your message
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 19, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
Keep in mind, we are still pretty young at most positions. The last 2 solid recruiting cla$$es by Wolf are going to see more playing time and those kids have some serious potential especially on the defensive side of the ball. This cla$$ isn't going to make or break the program by any means....
I will agree that this year's cla$$ won't make or break the program and thankfully it's small. When I see a linebacker back out of his only offer from a Northeast conference school and commit to the penguins I find that concerning. When I see player's committing here without  any other offers including a Division 2 offer I find that concerning. When i see players picking up their first offer from us two weeks out from National signing day that concerns me as well. I really don't care how close we are in proximity to any other mac school or any other F.C.S. conference within a 500 mile radius. We are part of the best conference in the nation that is ranked ahead of several F.B.S. conferences and we need to start recruiting that way. The majority of the recruits we bring in here should have at least a minimum of 5 F.C.S. offers. BO AND THE STAFF HE DOES HAVE ARE IN DESPERATION MODE AND IT SHOWS
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 19, 2015, 09:20:12 PM
Increasing "local" talent here is NOT a good thing unless they are B1G caliber players and we are not getting those. Even the MAC players of recent years have not been very good and don't pan out well in the MVFC. There was a Mooney safety that got picked on quite often over these past few years. YSU desparately  needs national players, especially from Fla., Calif., and other Southern states and fewer from the Valley. This cla$$ looks awful so far. Another back to back poor recruiting cla$$ will bring Paladin to predicting losing seasons. That's how I first made the first predictions years ago of back to back losing seasons when everyone thought all was well and I was nuts.

BTW, in Wolf first few months here , he recruited , ALMOST alone, and brought in a top cla$$. Pelini never carried a "recruiting" reputation and its showing.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spiderlegs on January 19, 2015, 09:45:00 PM
Paladin is right. Pelini couldn't draw anybody to Nebraska. The Cornhuskers were a D-II team at best. ;)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 19, 2015, 10:18:37 PM
Paladin has just nailed it and nothing else really needs said !! Wolf had watched the likes of N.D.S.U. beat up on the B.C.S. programs and he made up his mind that he had to recruit B.C.S. caliber athletes that B.C.S.school's  thought weren't quite good enough in order to compete for a conference championship. If it took going national that's what he did. Times have changed if you get a local kid that is borderline F.B.S-F.C.S. they want to get away from home for a little breathing room and the hometown aspect is irrelevant. Case and point the local lineman who choose Lehigh. And as far as your local 3 and 4 star recruits you can forget about that
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 19, 2015, 10:33:12 PM
Mabin is the only decent looking recruit so far and then you look at Leonard and just shake your head. Its mind boggling. How was an offer even extended to him ? D-I ? Please !!

I don't see or hear much in recruiting circles about YSU football. NLOID fast approaching.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 19, 2015, 11:24:47 PM
Like I said... The talent is here. Young talent on defense that redshirted last year especially in the secondary. Time for Bo to develop it and let it shine.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 19, 2015, 11:36:22 PM
YSU has offered the following:

LaMont Ragland: 6-1, 270 DT from Trotwood-Madison

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4719301/lamont-ragland


Adam Wollet: 6-1, 225 LB from Poland: School's all time leading tackler.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1764749/adam-wollet

Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 20, 2015, 09:36:39 AM
Last year's cla$$ only had 2 guys from the Valley. That punter from Fitch that went to our camp & an O-lineman (would make a better TE or d-lineman) from Neshanock. In 2013, Wolf recruited another pair ...McFadden and Morosa. In 2012, he recruited just 1. That is a total of 5 kids recruited from the Valley in 3-years. That is an issue ...and it is not with the talent being recruited. So stop complaining, if Pelini were to recruit this entire cla$$ from the Valley, it could do nothing but help. The three tailgate tents to my west do nothing but watch the TV and talk HS games. They used to go in and watch these kids.

Wolf did his due diligence and offered the "A-list" locals, but we are not going to get those (at least as frosh and A-list status). Then he went down to Florida and got a "bunch" of athletes ...but few players. Since we do not have many openings, I am excited to see the local flavor. Let's hope we see some LOI's.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 20, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
The numbers on both kids ( Ragland & Wollet) are inflated. Neither are  as tall or as heavy. Both show an active motor and some skills. But they both will be neutralized against bigger, faster players. Trotwood had a stud team who overpowered everyone and schemes  allowed Ragland to get little attention to block him. College will eat him up. Wollet probably a special teamer. Undersized for the middle.  Both appear to be good athletes but level of play ( D-I) is a question mark.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: jbags on January 20, 2015, 04:27:55 PM
I love Paladins analysis on Ragland and Wollett...too small...too light...not tall enough...cant play at our level...yeah, right now they cant but in 2 yearsthey will no longer be boys...theyll be men with 2 years of maturation...all i know is both come from solid, winning programs and in Wolletts case the bloodlines are there...I would take both in a heartbeat...the results will bear out 2 years from now and if both are on the 2 deep depth chart then they will have been worth it
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 20, 2015, 07:10:18 PM
Avery Larkin, a 5-11 DB from Cincinnati La Salle has committed to YSU. Had a pick 6 in the D2 title game against Nordonia.

Avery Larkin @avery_larkin  ∑  42m 42 minutes ago
I have chosen Youngstown State University to be the place where I will further my education and football career. #YSU

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1198523/highlights/173983376
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 20, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
Avery Larkin, a 5-11 DB from Cincinnati La Salle has committed to YSU. Had a pick 6 in the D2 title game against Nordonia.

Avery Larkin @avery_larkin  ∑  42m 42 minutes ago
I have chosen Youngstown State University to be the place where I will further my education and football career. #YSU

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1198523/highlights/173983376

wow great program. A little short for DB's these days, but taller than what we have and plays much taller, but good speed and an eye for the ball (perhaps too much, QBs are not that bad at our level) ...sounds like a great problem to have and just what we need. Welcome aboard Avery!!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 20, 2015, 09:30:04 PM
Larkin is a good one and comes from an athletic family ( Uncle was Barry Larkin of the Reds). Also played on the best team in the GCL South( Elder, St. X, Moeller), LaSalle, and he was one of the reasons why. Good closing speed, good hips and very athletic playing the ball. Great hands. Wondered where he was going to go to school and very surprised he is coming here.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 20, 2015, 09:41:07 PM
Larkin is a good one and comes from an athletic family ( Uncle was Barry Larkin of the Reds). Also played on the best team in the GCL South( Elder, St. X, Moeller), LaSalle, and he was one of the reasons why. Good closing speed, good hips and very athletic playing the ball. Great hands. Wondered where he was going to go to school and very surprised he is coming here.

I wonder if he can bring us Jeremy :) Not sure if they are brothers or cousins.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 20, 2015, 09:49:55 PM
Isiah Scott of Hubbard was offered to play WR for the penguins today.  Very good athlete and would be a good pick if he commits. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 20, 2015, 10:06:31 PM
Isiah Scott of Hubbard was offered to play WR for the penguins today.  Very good athlete and would be a good pick if he commits.

Was wondering where he was going to end up..... Great athlete, just not as great as his brother.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 21, 2015, 12:13:39 AM
I'm told Scott has an offer from Kentucky and may get one from Pitt as well.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 21, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
Larkin is a good one and comes from an athletic family ( Uncle was Barry Larkin of the Reds). Also played on the best team in the GCL South( Elder, St. X, Moeller), LaSalle, and he was one of the reasons why. Good closing speed, good hips and very athletic playing the ball. Great hands. Wondered where he was going to go to school and very surprised he is coming here.
Good analysis. .He is definitely a top 100 corner Nationally. .I'm sure he had several offers including F.B.S. ones. Great addition for Y.S.U.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysuseasonticket on January 21, 2015, 01:13:20 PM
I'm told Scott has an offer from Kentucky and may get one from Pitt as well.

and maybe also West Virginia from what I'm hearing.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 21, 2015, 02:39:47 PM
I'm told Scott has an offer from Kentucky and may get one from Pitt as well.

Cincinnati also I believe.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysubigred on January 21, 2015, 03:58:27 PM
How about Alabama or Ohio State? Hard to believe this Scott kid is getting all these offers.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: DavedS on January 21, 2015, 04:10:39 PM
How about Alabama or Ohio State? Hard to believe this Scott kid is getting all these offers.
Either of those two would really surprise me with him having a 2star rating--although J.J.Watt was also 2star. 8)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 21, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
YSU has offered Cathedral Prep RB DeAngelo Malone.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3969398/deangelo-malone
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 21, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
I really like the WR Darius Shackleford from Newark. He's a great route runner and downfield blocker with a great set of hands. Also is a Very physical and athletic kid that loves to go up and get the football. Has great instincts for blocking punts and field goals as well. I hope he comes here..just curious does anyone know if he has any other offers? And if not why?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 21, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
Malone is on the small side at 5'10, 178 but shows good speed, great field vision, nice balance, some power for his size and really cuts on a dime. Very shifty.  Reminds me of Marcus Mason. I didn't find much on him for recruiting which might be a sign of weak  academics. Size will also scare D-I away. He appears to be worth the gamble if academics are O.K.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 21, 2015, 07:41:01 PM
Fever -- Shackleford is a basketball star and some concern if he is going to play FB or basketball. Newark basketball is usually pretty good.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 21, 2015, 08:11:08 PM
YSU has offered Dylan Mabin, a 6-1 DB from Nordonia. Looks a nice athlete.

YSU coaching staff was at Nordonia high school yesterday talking to Mayben and spent some time talking to some of the other players.  His brother was a star at North Western and is on Atlanta Falcons practice squad.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 21, 2015, 08:16:26 PM
I'm told Scott has an offer from Kentucky and may get one from Pitt as well.

Cincinnati also I believe.

Cincy has pulled back there offer from Isiah and most of the other bigger programs are after LJ and are offering the brothers both full rides like PITT.  LJ is going to MSU and that is solid.  Isiah is the type of kid that needs to be at a smaller school and closer to home.  YSU has a good chance of getting him to sign,  he is a very good WR.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 21, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
Malone is on the small side at 5'10, 178 but shows good speed, great field vision, nice balance, some power for his size and really cuts on a dime. Very shifty.  Reminds me of Marcus Mason. I didn't find much on him for recruiting which might be a sign of weak  academics. Size will also scare D-I away. He appears to be worth the gamble if academics are O.K.

I believe he missed a lot of time this year with injuries so maybe that's why.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 21, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
Hmm interesting to hear about Scott. Maybe we do have a shot at him? Would be a nice WR if he develops nicely.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysuseasonticket on January 22, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
Hmm interesting to hear about Scott. Maybe we do have a shot at him? Would be a nice WR if he develops nicely.

Would be nice but I heard Kentucky all year long. He does have nice hands.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 22, 2015, 08:03:25 PM
@BCT_AChiappazzi: Per coach Bob Palko, West Allegheny LB Armand Dellovade has committed to Youngstown State. #timesfb

@Connelly_Vindy: Sounds like Youngstown State is a real possibility for Hubbard WR/DB Isiah Scott. Still up in the air with nearly two weeks until NSD. #YSU
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 22, 2015, 08:15:11 PM
Dellovade, a little undersized but seems to have good football instincs... Good solid commit.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1513976/highlights/167698380
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 22, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
http://www.timesonline.com/sports/high_school/football/west-allegheny-s-dellovade-headed-to-youngstown-state/article_5ba1d65e-a29a-11e4-baf3-2bc51d94d726.html?mode=jqm

Article just out on Dellovade.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 22, 2015, 09:40:58 PM
Dellovade had no D-I offers. On the small side at 5'11, 215. West had a stud team and loaded with FCS/ D-II players. He has some skills and is active but at his size will get neutralized here. Special teams player.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 22, 2015, 10:00:47 PM
Another commit!
@DeeShack3: I'm glad to announce that I've officially committed to play football at Youngstown State University! I can't thank God enough! 🙏🏈🔥 #GoYSU --- Shackleford
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 22, 2015, 10:17:49 PM
I like it. Tall kid, let him redshirt and grow into his body. If he grows too much you can always move him to TE
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysubigred on January 23, 2015, 08:40:53 AM
Another commit!
@DeeShack3: I'm glad to announce that I've officially committed to play football at Youngstown State University! I can't thank God enough!  #GoYSU --- Shackleford

Awesome!!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 23, 2015, 08:53:26 AM
Another commit!
@DeeShack3: I'm glad to announce that I've officially committed to play football at Youngstown State University! I can't thank God enough! 🙏🏈🔥 #GoYSU --- Shackleford
Y.S.U. just improved their program a great deal by landing this player. Big play ability with a great vertical and speed. Probably a legit 4.5 kid and closer to 200 pounds. The combination of Wells to Shackleford will be exciting to watch!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 23, 2015, 05:09:25 PM
Malone has committed. Will play DB at YSU.


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Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 25, 2015, 01:11:27 PM
Kyle Hegedus 5"10 180 FS SS from Lakewood St. Edwards has just committed to the Penguins. 135 tackles and 4 Int's in his Senior season for state Champs Ed's..Highlights available on Hudl
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 25, 2015, 02:09:28 PM
Two state champions from two powerhouses in our secondary in Larkin and now Hegedus. Neither has huge size which may have kept larger schools from recruiting them, but they certainly have played against the best competition in the state and region which will have prepared them for this level.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 25, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
Check out Hegedus against Glenville. Good hitter. Haven't seen much on his cover skills however. And is terribly small for a S.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: goodnews on January 25, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
Missed tackles, sheding blocks and form tackling was not a strength the defense the last few years.... Regardless of size, it appears from the videos that this a strength of the defensive recruits....
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: goodnews on January 25, 2015, 02:51:09 PM
Although Dellovade had no other notable offers he did have interest from the following according to 247 Sports:  Akron, Cincy, JMU and Michigan State...

http://247sports.com/Player/Armand-Dellovade-35419
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 25, 2015, 03:32:54 PM
Coverage skills was something I was looking for from Hegedus as well. He is definitely a tough and physical kid with good speed and strength. Shows the ability to shed off blockers quickly without giving up much ground and tackles with really good form..likes to get after it and is a heavy hitter. I would not hesitate to let him return punts and cover kicks..He could be a impact player sooner then later..plays much bigger then his listed weight of 180..we need more blue collar kids like him
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 25, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
I agree, Fever. Highlites I saw was limited to hitting on run support and not a clue what his cover skills are. St. E listed him at 5'10 but not sure he is that big which is a concern for a S vs a tall WR or big TE he might have to cover. Quick or good speed doesn't stop a size mismatch however. Could be good Special teams player.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: goodnews on January 25, 2015, 05:10:10 PM
Our safety for the previous 4 years was listed at 6'0" and couldnt cover or tackle.  So, if this kid can tackle we are further ahead...
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 25, 2015, 05:28:51 PM
@D1Cash Just Committed to Youngstown State University a great program on the rise🏈#penguins http://t.co/58q1kzg1nZ

Casimier Mitchell Jr. from Shaker Heights:
http://scoutingohio.com/index.php/view-profile.html?task=userProfile&user=12490

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/697124/highlights/207416378

This kid can hit on defense.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: YSUGO on January 25, 2015, 06:16:54 PM
Other than the kid from Newark looks like we are recruiting undersized football players  u can have the all the football IQ you want that won't cut against the Bison and other top teams, we saw with#8 he had all the football IQ in the world but he would go make a play and physically get beat up and swatted away like a fly. Very disappointed so far but we got a late start and this year will be a free pa$$.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 25, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
Other than the kid from Newark looks like we are recruiting undersized football players  u can have the all the football IQ you want that won't cut against the Bison and other top teams, we saw with#8 he had all the football IQ in the world but he would go make a play and physically get beat up and swatted away like a fly. Very disappointed so far but we got a late start and this year will be a free pa$$.
Agreed..like Paladin said the Safety from Ed's is maybe 5"9 every other safety in the Missouri is 6"0-6"2 and the tight ends for example at N.D.S. are 6"5 and 6"6 respectively. The backers we're bringing in are to short as well and there will be mismatch problems there as well ..I have know idea what they plan to do with Mitchell from Shaker Heights I'll leave it at that
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 25, 2015, 09:10:30 PM
Other than the kid from Newark looks like we are recruiting undersized football players  u can have the all the football IQ you want that won't cut against the Bison and other top teams, we saw with#8 he had all the football IQ in the world but he would go make a play and physically get beat up and swatted away like a fly. Very disappointed so far but we got a late start and this year will be a free pa$$.

Wolf always recruited the kids with all the measurables, but hardly any football IQ. Time to change it around.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: goodnews on January 25, 2015, 09:39:09 PM
For what its worth, NDSU has (2) 6'0" Linebackers, 5'10" Corner but a 6'1" Safety commit.  Im not comparing anything other than size and weight.  Here is the link.

http://ndsu.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 25, 2015, 10:07:28 PM
Most of Bo's recruits seem to be a bit undersized, maybe a step too slow but they sure like look solid football players to me. I'm excited!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 25, 2015, 11:18:38 PM
05 -- they look like solid football players because they are. But the rub is a good 5'9 player loses out to a good 6'2 player most of the time. I'm not prepared to give Bo a pa$$ because Wolf was in the same position and recruited a top notch cla$$ almost single handed his first cla$$. I'd also hold off until NLOID to compare other MVFC teams recruits. I think you'll find we are behind the 8ball. The MVFC recruits VERY well. Bo will have Wolf's players who are size wise and ability level still competitive in the MVFC.

Fever has stated it well  -- you should look for mismatch problems in this cla$$. And if the next cla$$ doesn't improve, it will be downhill fast. Time yet for more recruits. Any one have a number of schollies available this year ?

And as for Mitchell, I got to agree with you Fever. Don't know what they want there . We are already deep at RB and I'm not seeing him as much help elsewhere. I might be missing something. One thing is for sure, making friends in Cleveland with Ed's, Iggy, etc and looking at big public school players there should turn up some players.  Contacts established for future recruiting.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 26, 2015, 07:17:28 AM
Mitchell was recruited to play OLB. Hence the reason why I said he could hit. He was not recruited to play RB per his Twitter account.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 26, 2015, 10:52:38 AM
05 -- they look like solid football players because they are. But the rub is a good 5'9 player loses out to a good 6'2 player most of the time. I'm not prepared to give Bo a pa$$ because Wolf was in the same position and recruited a top notch cla$$ almost single handed his first cla$$. I'd also hold off until NLOID to compare other MVFC teams recruits. I think you'll find we are behind the 8ball. The MVFC recruits VERY well. Bo will have Wolf's players who are size wise and ability level still competitive in the MVFC.

Fever has stated it well  -- you should look for mismatch problems in this cla$$. And if the next cla$$ doesn't improve, it will be downhill fast. Time yet for more recruits. Any one have a number of schollies available this year ?

And as for Mitchell, I got to agree with you Fever. Don't know what they want there . We are already deep at RB and I'm not seeing him as much help elsewhere. I might be missing something. One thing is for sure, making friends in Cleveland with Ed's, Iggy, etc and looking at big public school players there should turn up some players.  Contacts established for future recruiting.

I agree, but how many in that "great" recruiting cla$$ actually panned out? It's hit and miss on both sides. You get the athletic freaks who look good in shorts and t shirts, but have trouble actually playing football, and then you have the kids who are couple inches short or too slow, but are 4 year starters because they have the football IQ. Time to see if Bo's plan can work.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 26, 2015, 11:08:20 AM
05- the last time we saw players too short or too slow, Heacock   was doing the recruiting and it went downhill fast. Heacock had players with FB IQs, but they got  exposed  playing against bigger and faster players. We had good D coaching too. Most of you guys still don't get it -- there was nothing wrong with the players Wolf was bringing in. They  were fast, had size and playing abilities. We had a coaching problem with schemes and adjustments.   
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 26, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
05- the last time we saw players too short or too slow, Heacock   was doing the recruiting and it went downhill fast. Heacock had players with FB IQs, but they got  exposed  playing against bigger and faster players. We had good D coaching too. Most of you guys still don't get it -- there was nothing wrong with the players Wolf was bringing in. They  were fast, had size and playing abilities. We had a coaching problem with schemes and adjustments.

Is that what you see now?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 26, 2015, 12:02:37 PM
Now ? That implies a change.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: jbags on January 26, 2015, 12:05:33 PM
London Fletcher wasnt tall enough or heavy enough either....james Laurenitas wasnt heavy enough coming out of high school...Sam Mills was too short to play middle linebacker...why is everyone over reacting to size...it doesnt take a genius or hours of film study to figure out if a kid is tough enough to play ball...I hate the Steelers but how the heck did Palomalu last as long as he did in the draft? How about Chris Spielman? Ill tell you how...cuz guys like Paladin though they were too small and too slow to play...lets judge these kids after they get get here not before
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 26, 2015, 01:28:21 PM
Most of Bo's recruits seem to be a bit undersized, maybe a step too slow but they sure like look solid football players to me. I'm excited!

Could not agree more. If they were a half-step faster, 2-4 inches taller ...they would not be here. Wolf was taking as many leftovers as Pelini will. Pelini has the name going for him. Remember, when we were winning championships, we had something that would sway a recruit away from Akron or Kent; since we no longer have this, the name "Pelini" is going to mean a great deal more to many recruits.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 26, 2015, 01:39:49 PM
Now ? That implies a change.

The recruits that Pelini is getting =Heacock recruits?

The way I understand it is that Wolf brought good D1 athletes but couldn't coach them.  Bo is proven here maybe he can coach up what we already have.  The cupboard is not bare. 

However, the new recruits appear to be too small so I am asking if you think Bo's recruits are about equal to Heacock's...........in your opinion............or are Bo's closer to Wolford's recruits except slightly smaller.  I remember you saying that Heacock's recruits were not D1 athletes.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 26, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
Hold that thought. I a$$ure we will be having a conversation about it in a few short years. ;D

In my opinion, Wolf brought in far better athletes than Heacock did. And too early to tell if Bo's are close to Wolf's since recruiting isn't over with yet. Yes, they are small. Yes some have limited abilities. So far, it looks like Bo's recruits are closer to Heacock's than Wolf's . But better than what Heacock dragged in.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 26, 2015, 02:35:36 PM
I think what were talking about here is group on group match-up problems. Could you imagine a group of 5"10 - 6"0 linebackers trying to find Ruiz and Webb behind are offensive line? It would be next to impossible..and it would also be hard to pickup a 6"5 quarterback in the pa$$ing lane when dropping back in coverage. Pelini to this point has recruited smart, tough and well coached players..That is very evident on film..the only problem is we play in a conference where size matters a great deal. Any other F.C.S. conference in the nation you can get away with it but not this one. Remember the teams we play beat  up on F.B.S and B.C.S programs on a regular basis..there is a reason why !!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 26, 2015, 02:42:34 PM
Yep, Fever, they aren't short with high FB IQs,.....  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: jbags on January 26, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
all I know is that offense under Wolf was never our problem...and most of our returning talent is on that side of the ball along with our coordinator. Bo will coach up our defense instead of the revolving door of coordinators we've had the past 5 years. barring major injuries, I see no reason why we cannot make the playoffs. We dont have to depend on incoming talent this year except for Moss, hence no JC kids that I see. I believe the most critical incoming talent must be in the kicking game...I hope we dont miss Cejudo as much as I think we might. Consider this also...Bo might take a kid that he knows might never make the 2 deep depth chart just to make inroads at a particular school. St Ignatius for example...he can afford to do that because our returning talent is pretty darn good
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on January 26, 2015, 04:43:37 PM
I see we have the following recruits:

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Malik Leonard
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Adam Wollet
Avery Larken
Armand Dellovade
DeAangelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell

WELCOME to YSU!!

Did I miss any? How many do we have remaining to recruit? 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 26, 2015, 08:21:01 PM
Joey Davidson 6"5 230 TE from North Royalton has just committed to the penguins. From what I can see looks like a pretty solid player. Has a nice release off the line and does a good job finding soft spots in coverage. His run blocking is weak..looks like we have a Northern Ohio connection going on here
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spiderlegs on January 26, 2015, 09:41:09 PM
Hold that thought. I a$$ure we will be having a conversation about it in a few short years. ;D

In my opinion, Wolf brought in far better athletes than Heacock did. And too early to tell if Bo's are close to Wolf's since recruiting isn't over with yet. Yes, they are small. Yes some have limited abilities. So far, it looks like Bo's recruits are closer to Heacock's than Wolf's . But better than what Heacock dragged in.

I'll take a smaller player who can tackle over a bigger one who can't any day.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 26, 2015, 11:27:44 PM
Davidson has very good hands and should be a good receiver. However, despite his size , he does not appear to be very strong. Run blocking is weak. Needs to be put on a weight program and probably redshirt. He was also taken down too easily by smaller players after the catch. On the down side , YSU hasn't thrown  much to the TE and we have some here already with good hands but  little production.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 26, 2015, 11:43:24 PM
I hope they get my cousin.   He is a stud.


http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/jan/26/springfields-schuler-nabs-giampetro-awar/?newswatch
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: mvfc penguin on January 27, 2015, 12:53:27 AM
Zak Kennedy is an early admit to YSU for the spring semester and will be available for spring practices
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 27, 2015, 02:50:46 AM
I hope they get my cousin.   He is a stud.


http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/jan/26/springfields-schuler-nabs-giampetro-awar/?newswatch
He is a very good player on each side of the football. Relentless with a high motor..very good run blocker and a great set of hands
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 27, 2015, 07:43:04 AM
I hope they get my cousin.   He is a stud.


http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/jan/26/springfields-schuler-nabs-giampetro-awar/?newswatch
Nothing against Davidson but Schuler is a much better all around TE that is a solid 240. I seriously doubt if they would take 2 TE's in this cla$$ so they would probably be thinking DE for Schuler..Power what exactly is the scoop on your cousin? Just curious
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 27, 2015, 08:19:02 AM
Wolf's problem was recruiting too many athletes and not enough football players on the defensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 27, 2015, 09:39:08 AM
Donovan McWilson, out of Cardinal Mooney is on the team here at YSU. I know he graduated last year, not sure if he played football anywhere, he was being looked at by Kentucky along with some MAC schools... His Hudl account along with his twitter and instagram account say he is on the team, can anybody confirm? Guessing he will play WR.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3576312/donovan-mcwilson

Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: mvfc penguin on January 27, 2015, 11:28:33 AM
Donovan McWilson, out of Cardinal Mooney is on the team here at YSU. I know he graduated last year, not sure if he played football anywhere, he was being looked at by Kentucky along with some MAC schools... His Hudl account along with his twitter and instagram account say he is on the team, can anybody confirm? Guessing he will play WR.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3576312/donovan-mcwilson

Donovan walked onto the team in the fall, did not see any playing time other than practice squad reps
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 27, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
I hope they get my cousin.   He is a stud.


http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/jan/26/springfields-schuler-nabs-giampetro-awar/?newswatch
Nothing against Davidson but Schuler is a much better all around TE that is a solid 240. I seriously doubt if they would take 2 TE's in this cla$$ so they would probably be thinking DE for Schuler..Power what exactly is the scoop on your cousin? Just curious

I heard that Wolford was recruiting him for OT or TE depending on how much weight he gained.  Things went cold for a while when Wolford was fired.  Last I had heard he was undecided.  I got confirmation that he is going to YSU.  He should be a good one.  I think he is bigger and faster than his brothers and they were pretty good too.  May not even have to use an athletic scholarship on him either...........he has a 4.0 GPA maybe get an academic scholarship, however, I am not sure how all that works I am just throwing out my $.02.  By the way I think he is closer to 255 lbs.  I am glad he is going to YSU.  First one in his family.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 27, 2015, 01:00:09 PM
I see we have the following recruits:

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Malik Leonard
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Adam Wollet
Avery Larken
Armand Dellovade
DeAangelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell

WELCOME to YSU!!

Did I miss any? How many do we have remaining to recruit?

Good list and great question. This is more than we lost; so I wonder who is not returning? Spring roster will will be interesting. It is closer than you think!!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: mayor on January 27, 2015, 01:06:36 PM
I see we have the following recruits:

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Malik Leonard
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Adam Wollet
Avery Larken
Armand Dellovade
DeAangelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell

WELCOME to YSU!!

Did I miss any? How many do we have remaining to recruit?

Good list and great question. This is more than we lost; so I wonder who is not returning? Spring roster will will be interesting. It is closer than you think!!

Didn't QB Nathan Mays commit?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on January 27, 2015, 03:58:24 PM
Fan:

I know Nathan Mays has been offered, but I haven't been able to confirmed he accepted. There is probably several others who have been offered, but are weighing their time & offers. They still have 8 days before the National signing day.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 28, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
Poland LB Adam Wollet has committed to Robert Morris a 2015 opponent of ours
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysuseasonticket on January 28, 2015, 03:16:13 PM
Poland LB Adam Wollet has committed to Robert Morris a 2015 opponent of ours

Robert Morris........and thee advantage is what?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 28, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Poland LB Adam Wollet has committed to Robert Morris a 2015 opponent of ours

Robert Morris........and thee advantage is what?

Any number of things. He may not see an opening soon here. Or, maybe we were not offering a full-scholarship. Also a chance to be away from home. Etc.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 28, 2015, 03:34:09 PM
Fever == whats your opinion on Wollet. No ne wants to read mine. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 28, 2015, 04:19:55 PM
Fever == whats your opinion on Wollet. No ne wants to read mine.
What makes you think anyone wants to read mine ? It just gets you in trouble. I'm still trying to gather information but it's my understanding the Head coach for Robert Morris was fired yesterday. So this kid Wollet probably respected the a$$istant coaching staff their. RESPECT WITH RECRUITS THESE DAYS DOES GO ALONG WAY!! 😉
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 28, 2015, 04:44:49 PM
I think I'm wrong with the head coach being fired..it was a different Robert Morris..sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: DavedS on January 28, 2015, 05:42:54 PM
Fever == whats your opinion on Wollet. No ne wants to read mine.
I do--we will probably see eye to eye on it --I honestly have never seen him play and I don't have anything against athletes that have played for Poland but the ones that came here seemed to all follow the same route.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 28, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
I think I'm wrong with the head coach being fired..it was a different Robert Morris..sorry for the confusion

Their coach is a very good catch for RMU and just took over last year as HC. They hired John Banaszak, for all you "steel curtain" guys. He was brought in as a$$istant, stayed for 10-years ...told he was taking over for 20-year coach and trained. RMU is a good program with play-off history. Although I was just reviewing their roster and this kid is not playing at LB any time soon, they (RMU) are 6-deep already.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 28, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
you may DavedS, but  it should be obvious why he is going to RMU. But that's a step down from YSU but fits his abilities. You also make the point about Poland athletes who don't do well here at all. Agreed. Un like Fan, I see little competition at RMU and a chance to  play early . The RMU LBs are undersized where he will fit in well.  This is a case of a Valley athlete we shouldn't have recruited, lost   to a weaker program that we won't miss and saves what would have been a wasted schollie.. Check out the RMU roster................

RMU went 1-10 last year. And in the weak, weak NEC. That will be a weenie game for YSU. I would bet he plays as a Frosh against YSU.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 28, 2015, 10:37:50 PM
you may DavedS, but  it should be obvious why he is going to RMU. But that's a step down from YSU but fits his abilities. You also make the point about Poland athletes who don't do well here at all. Agreed. Un like Fan, I see little competition at RMU and a chance to  play early . The RMU LBs are undersized where he will fit in well.  This is a case of a Valley athlete we shouldn't have recruited, lost   to a weaker program that we won't miss and saves what would have been a wasted schollie.. Check out the RMU roster................

RMU went 1-10 last year. And in the weak, weak NEC. That will be a weenie game for YSU. I would bet he plays as a Frosh against YSU.


What do you think about Mark Schuler?  Just curious want an honest opinion.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 28, 2015, 10:38:27 PM
Bo Pelini was at the Notre Dame-Duke men's basketball game tonight. Had an in home visit with Inoke Moala, a TE/OLB from Penn high school in Indiana. He is currently committed to Indiana State but looks like Bo is trying to snatch him away.

Small Nokes @InokeMoala  ∑  31m 31 minutes ago

Great meeting Coach Bo Pelini tonight! Great experience and a blessing to have received an offer from Youngstown St.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 28, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
Schuler looked like a strong blocker. Good feet. Big frame. I'd look at what Wolf saw -- move him to OT, bulk him up and play in the OL. Redshirt. Not impressed with his speed as a TE but he would be a quick T. Play at 290-300.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 28, 2015, 10:49:24 PM
Highlights for Moala:

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1186871/inoke-moala


Was also offered a PWO at Indiana.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 28, 2015, 11:08:05 PM
Moala  -- now there is a TE ( or OLB). I'd feel comfortable playing him at either position. Strong blocker ( pancake blocks), great feet, good speed, great hands and played for a quality program against very good competition. Appears to be very strong.  This one I want on the Paladin team.................

P.S. -- I'll say he's strong , Squats 500 and benches 265. From Tonga !
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 28, 2015, 11:31:10 PM
Moala  -- now there is a TE ( or OLB). I'd feel comfortable playing him at either position. Strong blocker ( pancake blocks), great feet, good speed, great hands and played for a quality program against very good competition. Appears to be very strong.  This one I want on the Paladin team.................

P.S. -- I'll say he's strong , Squats 500 and benches 265. From Tonga !

I agree, a little short maybe for a TE, listed at 6-3, more like 6-2? But has all the skills definitely. Would be nice to pry him away from Indiana State and a fellow MVFC member!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 28, 2015, 11:38:23 PM
Moala being short is the ONLY reason he doesn't have major offers. Is currently the right size for OLB and only 20-30 lbs away from being a TE who blocks well or catches pa$$es at I-AA. He is a potential All Star at this level.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 29, 2015, 07:29:14 AM
Schuler looked like a strong blocker. Good feet. Big frame. I'd look at what Wolf saw -- move him to OT, bulk him up and play in the OL. Redshirt. Not impressed with his speed as a TE but he would be a quick T. Play at 290-300.

Not sure he could be that big. What about moving over to defense?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 29, 2015, 07:39:31 AM
Maybe Bo can snag an ND transfer or two while he is in beautiful South Bend.

Also, nice read on Moala from earlier last year:
http://www.ndinsider.com/recruiting/notre-dame-eyeing-penn-s-moala/article_828775e0-5611-5975-9679-126ed7228187.html
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
Thoughts : Wollet would've been a wasted scholarship just like Paladin said. Didn't show the athleticism needed to cover the entire field. Was hiding something on film-unblocked on every play. Know plugging ,scraping , shedding blocks, reading misdirection,dropping in coverage  things I look for. Still it will turn some heads a local kid with 7 FCS offers with a chance to play for Bo heading to the Northeast conference and a 1-10 program from a year ago. I'm happy with how we sit at the backer position. We have 3 undercla$$men at the TE position on the current roster. The way that Bo is aggressively recruiting TE"s tells me they will become a big part of the offense in years to come. Moala is a great football player know doubt about it - love the fact we're going in I.S.U.'s backyard at the last minute. I think Shuler is a great player as well. Both could play defense without a question. Seeing that we have a TE commit in Davidson that I'm just not high on things remain unclear at this time

Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 29, 2015, 08:55:06 AM
You nailed it again, Fever. Moala is head and shoulders better than commit Davidson. Seems odd how they are approaching recruiting  -- lots of guys that should have been pa$$ed over but were offered and late zeroing in on real players that are far better than we offered.

And, seems he has abandoned Florida and that will be a tragic mistake.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: DavedS on January 29, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
you may DavedS, but  it should be obvious why he is going to RMU. But that's a step down from YSU but fits his abilities. You also make the point about Poland athletes who don't do well here at all. Agreed. Un like Fan, I see little competition at RMU and a chance to  play early . The RMU LBs are undersized where he will fit in well.  This is a case of a Valley athlete we shouldn't have recruited, lost   to a weaker program that we won't miss and saves what would have been a wasted schollie.. Check out the RMU roster................

RMU went 1-10 last year. And in the weak, weak NEC. That will be a weenie game for YSU. I would bet he plays as a Frosh against YSU.
Although we don't always see eye to eye I believe you hit the nail on the head totally with this a$$essment.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 09:42:33 AM
You nailed it again, Fever. Moala is head and shoulders better than commit Davidson. Seems odd how they are approaching recruiting  -- lots of guys that should have been pa$$ed over but were offered and late zeroing in on real players that are far better than we offered.

And, seems he has abandoned Florida and that will be a tragic mistake.
Yep- The recruiting process has been bizarre. Honestly it's just what I expected. FAN had made the comment that Pelini was getting the leftover's just as Wolford did. The only difference here is Wolford wasn't getting the leftovers Pelini has to this point for the most part. Everyone thought top recruits would come to Bo because of the name..simply put this hasn't been the case so there must be a reason why. I like the fact he has planted the seeds with local programs such as St.Edwards that's very important. But deep down Bo knows things haven't gone as planned and it's go time for him. Florida is important just ask N.D.S. and the loss of Shane Dixon to Y.S.U.




Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 29, 2015, 10:17:20 AM
Malkin Leonard has changed his commitment from YSU, to Notre Dame College (D2)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 10:27:55 AM
Malkin Leonard has changed his commitment from YSU, to Notre Dame College (D2)
GOOD!!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 29, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Not sure if this was stated but Mabin from Nordonia has committed to Fordham.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 29, 2015, 10:39:01 AM
That is a loss. Big loss. Mabin is a player. And, again, I agree, Fever. Why Leonard was even offered speaks poorly of YSU recruiting.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
^^^^^ Agree 110% ..Not Good !!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Brandon3585 on January 29, 2015, 10:46:33 AM
Hello. I am (obviously) a new member to this board. I am actually a BIG Ohio state fan but I came to this board because I live in Urbana and you guys are getting Nathan Mays so I wanted to keep up with him from real ysu fans. I want be very active but I do want to hear what you guys think of him. Yes, he will be committing to ysu if you didn't know yet. In my opinion, he will be a great QB and a good fit in pelini's system. I'm excited to follow him through his college and (hopefully) pro-career.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: YSUFan1962 on January 29, 2015, 10:54:33 AM
Wolf and Bricillo did a great job recruiting, we have (2) top rated O-linemen committed; James Wilson from NJ and Gavin Wiggins from Eastern PA.  Wilson had 11 other FBS offers including Division I Old Dominion, and Wiggins had at least 3 offers.   I have seen the film on these two, a great addition to the Offense, I cannot wait to see them play. 

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1231966/james-wilson

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1818890/gavin-wiggins
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 29, 2015, 12:09:26 PM
That is a loss. Big loss. Mabin is a player. And, again, I agree, Fever. Why Leonard was even offered speaks poorly of YSU recruiting.

I agree. Mabin would have been a big get for Bo.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 12:25:57 PM
Wolf and Bricillo did a great job recruiting, we have (2) top rated O-linemen committed; James Wilson from NJ and Gavin Wiggins from Eastern PA.  Wilson had 11 other FBS offers including Division I Old Dominion, and Wiggins had at least 3 offers.   I have seen the film on these two, a great addition to the Offense, I cannot wait to see them play. 

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1231966/james-wilson

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1818890/gavin-wiggins
I wouldn't have expected anything less from Wolford. Brought in top quality lineman every year. Wiggins is the better of the two. I like the way he stays low on defense and moves down the line of scrimmage. We our thin at the DT position this could be a option for him early on as we have a stock pile of O -lineman
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 29, 2015, 12:53:44 PM
I would not go overboard with Florida players, but I do not think Pelini is going to ignore them. Because of saturation (too many teams recruiting Florida) we are getting just as many leftovers from down there, as we would from anywhere else. So many teams are grabbing Florida kids that quality (better) mid-west players are being ignored. I think this is especially true on defense. So why not bring in a few more local kids to excite the fans base?

I think the issue we have with those guys relates back to my feelings on style of ball. This SEC style of ball is rapidly going away, since OSU beat Alabama. As mentioned several times earlier, Wolf had too many athletes and not enough players. The Guins keep up with receivers & that is enough to stop things down there, but up North ...MVFC QB's are going to throw the ball as they know our coverage is weak; so we have to be able to play the ball and tackle. Also, we need to bring more pressure to force these throws early.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 29, 2015, 01:21:51 PM
Hello. I am (obviously) a new member to this board. I am actually a BIG Ohio state fan but I came to this board because I live in Urbana and you guys are getting Nathan Mays so I wanted to keep up with him from real ysu fans. I want be very active but I do want to hear what you guys think of him. Yes, he will be committing to ysu if you didn't know yet. In my opinion, he will be a great QB and a good fit in pelini's system. I'm excited to follow him through his college and (hopefully) pro-career.

Most on here are also big Ohio State fans as well.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 29, 2015, 03:36:16 PM
Again, have to agree, Fever.  Wolf has brought in two more very good linemen. I still chuckle about his players having "low football IQs" according to some here. The fact is, he brought in very solid players over the years. His DC failed him and the players were not used well.

Florida, of course, is where everyone goes for talent. And Florida has a  huge supply. More than Ohio. More than Pa. More than both COMBINED.  And the coach who fails  to get players down there will be seriously hurt by them when matched up against them in games. Ohio St. isn't stupid enough to ignore Florida players. Neither is the MVFC. There are leftovers in Ohio that most avoid .  Florida players are premium because they play  year  round in good weather. Check and see how many Florida players are on MVFC rosters.  ::)   
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 29, 2015, 04:33:47 PM
Again, have to agree, Fever.  Wolf has brought in two more very good linemen. I still chuckle about his players having "low football IQs" according to some here. The fact is, he brought in very solid players over the years. His DC failed him and the players were not used well.

Florida, of course, is where everyone goes for talent. And Florida has a  huge supply. More than Ohio. More than Pa. More than both COMBINED.  And the coach who fails  to get players down there will be seriously hurt by them when matched up against them in games. Ohio St. isn't stupid enough to ignore Florida players. Neither is the MVFC. There are leftovers in Ohio that most avoid .  Florida players are premium because they play  year  round in good weather. Check and see how many Florida players are on MVFC rosters.  ::)

Yes and none more than YSU, so what is your point? I am simply-saying that we can look for talent at home. IN a few years, maybe we will be the first-place some top local talent considers. As you said, everyone goes to FL for talent and we will continue to do the same. I feel at our level and playing a YSU-style of ball, we can get talent from many places ...CA, GA, FL, OH, PA, TX and more. OSU can recruit anywhere, because they are OSU ...enough said about that. Furthermore, OSU's recruiting has absolutely nothing to do with how YSU recruits (transfers being the exception). We simply do not have anywhere near enough local flavor on our team. Pelini knows this and is doing something about it. If they sit on the bench it is worth the investment. He is not just grabbing any local kid; give him credit for doing what has not been done in recent years ...recruiting NE Ohio and W. PA.

People need to stop listening to the media so much: "Heacock cannot recruit", or "Wolf was a recruiting expert". NEITHER is entirely true. People wait for one of their given recruits to work out ...or not... then say "see I told you so". Heck H did not like all the traveling as he recruited most players himself (no money to do otherwise). Wolf's staff was much more skilled in recruiting; yet in his supposed area of expertise, Wolf recruited very poorly on the lines ...too small (dline) and not enough depth (O & D lines).

 FYI, Midwest kids are used to playing in Midwest weather. Top FL players are not coming to YSU for the same reason top local talent is not. Top athletes go to top schools ...regardless of climate. They can play at our level at home in nicer climate.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 29, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Boohoo.... poor local  players who won't be recruited by other colleges try the good old boy network way to lobby the new coach for recruiting more area players ( no matter they aren't worth it). Why try to get better and make the playoffs ?  Lets just become a pipeline for local players so they get a free education ( and avoid competition with "outsiders" for those schollies).  Think that will increase attendance ?  While losing games with subpar local players ?  Good luck with that.  Waste some schollies, cheat the players on the team who EARNED their schollie and treat the fans to losing with local talent no one else wanted.

Sounds like a plan. AD approved ?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 29, 2015, 05:07:55 PM
@LocalTV4Me: Mays to sign with Youngstown State - Urbana Citizen - http://t.co/3a848ke1ab http://t.co/zHKWYuXxqU via @UrbanaCitizen
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 29, 2015, 05:20:58 PM
Talent just isn't the same as it once was in Youngstown area. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 29, 2015, 05:24:21 PM
I just went to the YSU site and counted 39 players from NEO and W. Pa. on the roster.  Guess we need more "local" talent.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 06:36:30 PM
I just went to the YSU site and counted 39 players from NEO and W. Pa. on the roster.  Guess we need more "local" talent.  ;D ;D ;D
Great point !! Include the rest of the buckeye and your probably over 50. What I do know is over 17 players out of state contribute to this program in a big way. Then again who needs the likes of Ruiz , D.Rivers , Nwadiogbu , Cejudo and others on the team. I'm not about to argue with the 4 time defending national champ Bison for drawing their recruits from the states of Florida , Texas , Arizona, , California, , Hawaii and Washington it seems to be working out fine for them..anyone wish to disagree ??☺
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 29, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
WR Chad Swanson from Huber Heights Wayne had an in home visit from Montgomery last night.

Reminds me of a taller Christian Bryan. 6-3, not gonna blow anybody away with his speed but runs great routes and has good hands. And had very solid stats playing against solid D1 programs.

http://recruiting.scout.com/story/1506781-ohio-receiver-picking-up-late-interest

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4578150/highlights/167200375
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 29, 2015, 07:53:29 PM
Christian Randall-Posey, LB/TE from Penn Hills has committed to YSU.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3142782/highlights/195469386
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 29, 2015, 08:34:58 PM
Christian Randall-Posey, LB/TE from Penn Hills has committed to YSU.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3142782/highlights/195469386
Versatile and athletic only 185 pounds. Strong for his size and probably a 4.7 kid or faster. Sheds blocks like a 230 pound middle linebacker should..again I have know idea where the staff might play him . There should be some different options to choose from
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 29, 2015, 09:30:55 PM
I just went to the YSU site and counted 39 players from NEO and W. Pa. on the roster.  Guess we need more "local" talent.  ;D ;D ;D
Great point !! Include the rest of the buckeye and your probably over 50. What I do know is over 17 players out of state contribute to this program in a big way. Then again who needs the likes of Ruiz , D.Rivers , Nwadiogbu , Cejudo and others on the team. I'm not about to argue with the 4 time defending national champ Bison for drawing their recruits from the states of Florida , Texas , Arizona, , California, , Hawaii and Washington it seems to be working out fine for them..anyone wish to disagree ??☺

What are you trying to say Fever. I agree that we should recruit everywhere ...and if I was the head coach at BFEU ...I would have no choice. Quite frankly, as a local I expect recruiting to be local ...and I am not even a local. Lack of this adds to lack of ticket sales. We are arguing over nothing.

BTW, we have 26 players from within 100 miles of Youngstown ...3 graduate ...leaving 23. I am not saying it is a good number or bad. Stubbs, D'Alesio, Kelly (last few games),  Collucci (a few games) and Zaborski and the only ones that had games as a starter. Family, not fans, look at the bench. We can amke the argument that many of these are not our best players ...and we would be right. That is what I want to see changed.

Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: HappyPenguin on January 30, 2015, 09:59:27 AM
I just went to the YSU site and counted 39 players from NEO and W. Pa. on the roster.  Guess we need more "local" talent.  ;D ;D ;D
Great point !! Include the rest of the buckeye and your probably over 50. What I do know is over 17 players out of state contribute to this program in a big way. Then again who needs the likes of Ruiz , D.Rivers , Nwadiogbu , Cejudo and others on the team. I'm not about to argue with the 4 time defending national champ Bison for drawing their recruits from the states of Florida , Texas , Arizona, , California, , Hawaii and Washington it seems to be working out fine for them..anyone wish to disagree ??☺



Hard to say what the scholarship situation is for these local kids also. They may be cheap partials.

What are you trying to say Fever. I agree that we should recruit everywhere ...and if I was the head coach at BFEU ...I would have no choice. Quite frankly, as a local I expect recruiting to be local ...and I am not even a local. Lack of this adds to lack of ticket sales. We are arguing over nothing.

BTW, we have 26 players from within 100 miles of Youngstown ...3 graduate ...leaving 23. I am not saying it is a good number or bad. Stubbs, D'Alesio, Kelly (last few games),  Collucci (a few games) and Zaborski and the only ones that had games as a starter. Family, not fans, look at the bench. We can amke the argument that many of these are not our best players ...and we would be right. That is what I want to see changed.

Somehow that got stuck in the middle, sorry.

Hard to say what the scholarship situation is for these local kids also. They may be cheap partials...not a bad way to fill a roster with some depth.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 12:14:20 PM
Isiah Scott from Hubbard has committed to YSU per Dana Balash. Fantastic pickup!

Dana Balash @DanaBalash21  ∑  1m 1 minute ago
.@21WFMJSports Hubbard's Isiah Scott verbally commits to Youngstown State @BoPelini .
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on January 30, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
YSU Recruit status: (Changing by the day)

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Avery Larkin
Armand Dellovade
DeAngelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell
Nathan Mays
Christian Randall-Posey
Isiah Scott

Opted out:  Adam Wollet & Malik Leonard

Time is running out, but I expect some changes prior to National signing day (Feb. 4)


Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: mvfc penguin on January 30, 2015, 02:05:34 PM
YSU Recruit status: (Changing by the day)

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Avery Larkin
Armand Dellovade
DeAngelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell
Nathan Mays
Christian Randall-Posey
Isiah Scott

Opted out:  Adam Wollet & Malik Leonard

Time is running out, but I expect some changes prior to National signing day (Feb. 4)

Don't forget about transfers

Avery Moss (Nebraska)
Bri'onte Dunn (Ohio State)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 30, 2015, 02:13:55 PM
YSU Recruit status: (Changing by the day)

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Avery Larkin
Armand Dellovade
DeAngelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell
Nathan Mays
Christian Randall-Posey
Isiah Scott

Opted out:  Adam Wollet & Malik Leonard

Time is running out, but I expect some changes prior to National signing day (Feb. 4)

Don't forget about transfers

Avery Moss (Nebraska)
Bri'onte Dunn (Ohio State)

Mark Schuler should be in there as well.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 30, 2015, 02:23:35 PM
The numbers don't match. Losing 12 seniors and bringing in way more than that. Is Dunn a "done" deal cause I heard he was still "shopping" around ?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
I don't believe Dunn is close to a done deal at all... Just a rumored possibility.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 02:33:40 PM
And we also don't know who is all leaving besides Wheary and Nania so that can play a big factor as well.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on January 30, 2015, 02:58:04 PM
Thanks for reminding me of those transfers; I believe Bri'onte Dunn is still weighing his options and we may not know his status until signing day.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 30, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
Scott has not committed yet. He is visiting Kentucky this weekend. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 30, 2015, 03:21:27 PM
Kentucky has Scott listed 8th behind 7 other WRs they have offered, yet only one has committed. Scott holds a Cincy offer as well.  Kentucky recently lost several commits who reconsidered. They will push to keep some offers live. Scott, I believe , is one   of them.

I just heard that Dunn is reconsidering not leaving OSU.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
Scott has not committed yet. He is visiting Kentucky this weekend.

Hmm interesting. Dana Balash and Mark Porter both confirming he has committed?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: #1 Tailgater on January 30, 2015, 03:26:50 PM
Ok I stand corrected about Scott. Spoke to Hubbard staff and he has committed to YSU.  Cancelled his visit to KY. Good pickup for the Penguins lots of talent.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 03:56:30 PM
Dana Balash @DanaBalash21  ∑  4m 4 minutes ago

@21WFMJSports  More on Isiah Scott verbal to YSU. He was supposed to visit Kentucky, but spoke with Coach Pelini this AM and committed.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 30, 2015, 03:59:24 PM
Dunn will never see the field at OSU except on special teams. Got into Urban's doghouse early with his poor work ethic and fumbling the ball all of training camp. Got the chance to get in at R.B. in some blowout games against some tired defenses that were just arm tackling and managed to put the ball on the ground twice. We have a good situation here at running back and they understand  the importance of ball security. The only game they didn't take care of it well was I.S.U...we really don't need the drama. Does anyone know if he was Offered by Pelini while at Nebraska? If he does leave O.S.U. the F.C.S. and the Missouri would be the most logical choice
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 30, 2015, 04:14:25 PM
Dana Balash @DanaBalash21  ∑  4m 4 minutes ago

@21WFMJSports  More on Isiah Scott verbal to YSU. He was supposed to visit Kentucky, but spoke with Coach Pelini this AM and committed.
I have a feeling Vince Marrow of Kentucky won't give up that easy
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on January 30, 2015, 04:29:27 PM
Dunn's issue was legal and then his desire NOT to play on special teams. He worked his way back into good graces last year. Dunn was probably the second-best special team player they had. He may be a slightly better back than Samuels ...but he is a power back and not quite the back EzE is either. Samuels is a scat-back ...fast & allows OSU give a different look to opposing defenses. So I see Dunn staying at #3, with two backs coming in. Now OSU's #4 back (Bell) is very bright and does well academically ...he is going to get a great degree and stay healthy. So Meyer can red-shirt one of the recruits for sure & if Dunn stays ...he will red-shirt them both.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
I see no need for Dunn here....

In other news, Wayne WR Chad Swanson will be here this weekend for a visit.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 30, 2015, 04:41:33 PM
YSU Recruit status: (Changing by the day)

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Avery Larkin
Armand Dellovade
DeAngelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell
Nathan Mays
Christian Randall-Posey
Isiah Scott

Opted out:  Adam Wollet & Malik Leonard

Time is running out, but I expect some changes prior to National signing day (Feb. 4)

Jacob Zinni from West Branch as well.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 30, 2015, 07:53:04 PM
Reports out of Mishawaka,Indiana have Inoke Moala switching his verbal to YSU..Can anyone confirm
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: guinpen on January 30, 2015, 09:06:02 PM
Reports out of Mishawaka,Indiana have Inoke Moala switching his verbal to YSU..Can anyone confirm
Where was he going
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 30, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
Reports out of Mishawaka,Indiana have Inoke Moala switching his verbal to YSU..Can anyone confirm
Where was he going
He actually committed to the Sycamores of Indiana State last week.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 30, 2015, 11:59:48 PM
I read that TE Davidson from North Royalton committed after being offered. He is not listed.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: DoubleE on January 31, 2015, 03:13:03 AM
Hubbard's Isiah Scott verbally commits to Youngstown State
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 31, 2015, 07:19:38 AM
Hubbard's Isiah Scott verbally commits to Youngstown State
It's already on page 12 haha.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 31, 2015, 08:18:07 AM
Looks like they are targeting line men and line backers With a few defensive backs in there as well
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on January 31, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
Wayne WR. Swanson has generated interest late from M.A.C. programs but currently holds know offers. I look for him to receive one this weekend and accept. The focal point of this cla$$ has also been the WR position. Out of the 16 or so commits about 9 are deserving of full rides if good in the cla$$room . The others should be split or be a preferred walk-on
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Penguin Nation on January 31, 2015, 09:59:13 AM
Nice Vindy article re: Isiah Scott:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/jan/31/recruiting-trail-isiah-scott-staying-hom/
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on January 31, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
Latest update on recruits with verbal commitments:

James Wilson
Zak Kennedy
Gavin Wiggins
Jacob Zinni
Ryan Emans
Curtis Parks
Darius Shackleford
Lamont Ragland
Avery Larkin
Armand Dellovade
DeAngelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimier Mitchell
Nathan Mays
Christian Randall-Posey
Isiah Scott
Joey Davidson
Avery Moss

There will be some more jockeying around prior to letter of intent signing.


Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 31, 2015, 11:32:02 AM
Agree again, Fever. Not all the recruits are acceptable for this level of play. Too many were offered that we should have pa$$ed on.  As for Swanson, he played a lot of slot wr and he will be sought as he has size for the position. That's usually rare. Depending on who else is out there and available, it's a crap shoot if we get him. I see lots of last minute switches nationally. Let's hope he sticks.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on January 31, 2015, 01:15:59 PM
Vincent Schnell, LB from Elkhart high school in Indiana is here this weekend on an official visit
 Has offers from Austin Peay and Illinois St.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/558748/highlights/161662379
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on January 31, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
Never got much into recruiting but I noticed they don't have stars next to them.  Did they stop doing this?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 31, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
According to ScoutingOhio.com, YSU has offered Joe Alessi, RB,  5'10. 190 from South Range yesterday.

This makes no sense.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 31, 2015, 10:45:48 PM
In the 2016 cla$$, YSU offered Titus Nelson:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4191680/titus-nelson

@HumbledGrind_22
Just got the offer from Youngstown State. Blessed Go penguins

Alessi is not a bad back and I think he could do well in lower level FCS. However, with the competition they play, I don't see it panning out here.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on January 31, 2015, 11:06:36 PM
I can't stop laughing.  Go back and watch the film on Nelson and WATCH the competition. That is some of the WORST level of play you will see on film. Terrible players. Even his own team mates. He isn't that great either but the level of competition makes him look like Superman. We are in trouble.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on January 31, 2015, 11:51:02 PM
We are in trouble.
Per Pally, time to give up on the Pelini era at YSU just six weeks after he was hired. We are so screwed.  ;)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 01, 2015, 09:25:23 AM
Tre'Von Williams, a 6-3 QB from Cleveland VASJ has committed to YSU. Also plays on the highly ranked basketball squad.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3238681/highlights/191435387
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 01, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
According to ScoutingOhio.com, YSU has offered Joe Alessi, RB,  5'10. 190 from South Range yesterday.

This makes no sense.
Agreed..we are young at R.B. and have plenty of depth. we have a verbal with Deangelo Malone who I judge to be better. We have greater needs elsewhere...Headscatcher !!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 01, 2015, 09:40:46 AM
I can't stop laughing.  Go back and watch the film on Nelson and WATCH the competition. That is some of the WORST level of play you will see on film. Terrible players. Even his own team mates. He isn't that great either but the level of competition makes him look like Superman. We are in trouble.
I watched these highlights and literally fell out of my chair. Simply put this is becoming ridiculous!!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 01, 2015, 10:13:58 AM
I can't stop laughing.  Go back and watch the film on Nelson and WATCH the competition. That is some of the WORST level of play you will see on film. Terrible players. Even his own team mates. He isn't that great either but the level of competition makes him look like Superman. We are in trouble.

I cannot stop laughing at your comments. I suppose you say the same thing when we show great runs against Butler, or RMU, or St. Francis? Fever how much is Pally paying you? We already know he has a 20-spot in his pocket from Wolf. To both of your:

Coach M recruits most of the offense and all of the skill positions & I trust him implicitly. You do not even know how these guys are being used. You do not check any intangibles ...like grades. You do not have any idea who is returning for spring. Then you make comments about how young we are. We have 1 senior, 2 juniors and 3 sophs . Anyone that redshifts this year has a 2-year gap. Please, most of Ytown has smiles on their faces ...try it once.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: letsgoguins on February 01, 2015, 10:54:14 AM
I talked with someone close to the coaching staff yesterday that informed me you will see more kids getting partial scholarships as opposed to full scholarships... Some of these "questionable" ones Pally and Mr. Fever are going off about are very likely partials.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 01, 2015, 12:03:22 PM
Zack Torbet, a 6-3 WR/SS from Avon high school has committed to YSU.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1593349/zack-torbert
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 01, 2015, 01:11:00 PM
Look, disagree with me if you wish. I was just a h.s. Head coach.  However, Footballfever was a long time D-1 college coach. He knows more than me and I am not afraid to admit it. I will hold my comments till it's all official ,then give an overall opinion with supporting facts and analysis.

Would advise all to look at the other MVFC teams recruiting . NDS is tearing up with mainly two and three star players, many with multiple FBS offers who are committing to DNS. Filmon their players are awesome. ILS, UNI and SIU are tearing up too. We do not match up. Currently our cla$$ fals into the lower half of the MVFC recruiting. JMHO. Look at their players on film and judge for yourself. I used  Rivals, Scout, Hudl and ESPN for my info and film review of recruits.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 01, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
But you say the same thing ever single solitary year; so don't act like this is something unusual. BTW, NDSU's cla$$ of 2015 is nothing. As with everyone else in our conference (and division for that matter) .. 1maybe 2 players with 2-stars ...both sub-5 rivals ratings (FYI, yo need to be close to 10 to be a 3 or 4 star recruit. Also, they recruited two LB's at 180lbs? wow ...just killer. Right now we are the only team with a 3-star recruit, in the MVFC. There will be two more that are transfers & one is coming our way.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 01, 2015, 02:15:39 PM
Now that is funny. How quickly you  forget I named TWO of Wolfs recruiting cla$$es the BEST in the MVFC. Explain that ?   Everyone should feel free to go to Rivals page on NDS and read for themselves. Then compare with YSU. Watch film. Don't take your word or mine. Look for yourself . Meanwhile, recruiting goes on. It is not over yet.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spiderlegs on February 01, 2015, 02:46:06 PM
You guys take the stars more seriously than I do. They're just guides, and lots of good players get overlooked for one reason or another.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 01, 2015, 03:26:04 PM
Now that is funny. How quickly you  forget I named TWO of Wolfs recruiting cla$$es the BEST in the MVFC. Explain that ?   Everyone should feel free to go to Rivals page on NDS and read for themselves. Then compare with YSU. Watch film. Don't take your word or mine. Look for yourself . Meanwhile, recruiting goes on. It is not over yet.

Best recruiting cla$$es filled with athletes who can't tackle.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 01, 2015, 03:27:51 PM
Chad Krispinsky @ChadK426  ∑  5m 5 minutes ago
Springfield's Mark Schuler has committed to play college football at Youngstown State @YoungstownStFB

Chad Krispinsky @ChadK426  ∑  1h 1 hour ago
South Range's Joe Alessi has committed to play college football at YSU
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 01, 2015, 03:29:50 PM
Wayne WR Chad Swanson has received an offer from YSU while on his visit this weekend.

Mike Church, a DB from Elyria has also received an offer.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2132143/mike-church
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on February 01, 2015, 05:30:20 PM
@DMBerk: Huber Heights (OH) Wayne Sr WR @cswanson07 has committed to Youngstown State. Great get for new HC Bo Pelini http://t.co/KIGJT26Jhn
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: DoubleE on February 01, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
@DMBerk: Huber Heights (OH) Wayne Sr WR @cswanson07 has committed to Youngstown State. Great get for new HC Bo Pelini http://t.co/KIGJT26Jhn

To get a kid this big if for nothing else goaline possessions is a huge get for the program. very happy
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: goodnews on February 01, 2015, 09:25:07 PM
According to scouting ohio Joe Alessi has offers from Dayton, Marist and Army.....So to make this kid sound like he should be playing at Hiram seems a little unfair.  Appears that he is also an excellent student possible Biology or Pre-Dental major.  For the record, #11 on Patriots is about the same size and wasnt heavily recruited either...  There are diamonds in the rough so to speak..
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 01, 2015, 10:50:56 PM
Glad to get Swanson!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysubigred on February 02, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
Now that is funny. How quickly you  forget I named TWO of Wolfs recruiting cla$$es the BEST in the MVFC.   Explain that ?   Everyone should feel free to go to Rivals page on NDS and read for themselves. Then compare with YSU. Watch film. Don't take your word or mine. Look for yourself . Meanwhile, recruiting goes on. It is not over yet.

Wait.. What?? Ok I can't figure you out. Lets see since Wolford came here he recruited two of the best cla$$es in the MVFC. So with all the talent at YSU Stevie Wonder should have been able to coach them to the playoffs. Face it, Wolford was NOT a good coach or recruiter of "Football players".  :o
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 02, 2015, 09:26:56 AM
Jalen Austin, 6-2 DB from Columbus Bishop Hartley has committed to YSU.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2730027/jalen-austin
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysubigred on February 02, 2015, 09:49:04 AM
Jalen Austin, 6-2 DB from Columbus Bishop Hartley has committed to YSU.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2730027/jalen-austin

Nice. I wasn't as impressed with his defense as I was with his offense, special teams and blocking skills. I wonder where that #7 tailback is going  :)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on February 02, 2015, 11:54:50 AM
We had several more recruits give their verbal commitments to YSU: But time is now running out.

James Wilson                             Isiah Scott                     
Zack Kennedy                            Joey Davidson
Gavin Wiggins                            Avery Moss
Jacob Zinni                                Tre'Von Williams
Ryan Emans                              Zack Torbert
Curtis Parks                               Mark Schuler
Darius Shackleford                     Chad Swanson
Lamont  Ragland                        Joe Alessi
Avery Larkin                              Jalen Austin
Armand Dellovade
DeAngelo Malone
Kyle Hegedus
Casimeir Mitchell
Nathan Mays
Christian Randall-Posey

So far 24 recruits: more than I expected, probably some with 1/2 scholarships
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: HappyPenguin on February 02, 2015, 12:38:51 PM
I'm willing to give him a full year on the job before running him out of town based on youtube videos of high school kids playing football.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 02, 2015, 03:07:36 PM
I did not see any info on Randall-Posey ...great pick-up. Do you have a link? If he is whom I think he is, Posey was the Quad-A defensive POY in the WPIAL.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 02, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
I have to laugh at the negativity of the comments regarding Pelini and positive comments about Wolford.
Nebraska DII and Pelini can't recruit anybody that can play, etc.  Let's review the facts, Pelini's worst record at 1-A Nebraska, in the Big10 was better than Wolford's best record at 1-AA in the MVC.  I agree that the "Valley" is the best 1-AA conference, but it isn't the Big 10 so those comments are just play silly. 
Secondly, there is much more to winning football than recruiting.  Look at the last 4-5 cla$$es at Michigan and what the recently dismissed staff did with the talent.  Nothing.  Wolford was the same, good looking recruits, 3 years later out of the program or on the bench.  Consistently.  Eric can't coach.  Bo knows coaching!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on February 02, 2015, 04:42:24 PM
IAAfan:

Randall-Posey gave verbal commitment per 0505 via hudl.com several days ago. That seems confirmed after checking hudl.

He plays both offence & defense:  LB and RB. He played for Penn Hills which plays against good competition. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 02, 2015, 05:20:37 PM
I certainly wouldn't put down the last couple of Wolford's recruiting cla$$es. They won some very big games and were competitive in just about all of their conference loses that could've went either way. If they were getting blown out of every conference game lose that would be a different story. Wolford knew as a coach he would be judged on win and loses. It was his job to have the adjustments made by his staff to win the close ones and he didn't get it done. It's not a easy thing for Pelini to come in at the last minute, put a staff together and get these players signed. The staff has gotten some big gets that I'm very happy with. I made the comment before Bo was hired that we would be forced to offer many Division 2 players without division 1 offers and that's what has happened. It doesn't mean they won't pan out or contribute in some way. But more of that is insurance then anything. I think all of us are surprised how many players have been added to this cla$$. There looks like a big shakeup that awaits.Spring will be very interesting. We just need to be patient and see how this all works out..some times change doesn't result in instant success right away
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 02, 2015, 05:24:47 PM
IAAfan:

Randall-Posey gave verbal commitment per 0505 via hudl.com several days ago. That seems confirmed after checking hudl.

He plays both offence & defense:  LB and RB. He played for Penn Hills which plays against good competition.

That has to be him, but I cannot find where he was Quad-A POY. I do see where he made the Big-22. This is a nice grab.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 03, 2015, 10:57:23 AM
It should be noted that the rumored OSU RB transfer Bri'onte Dunn was a Tressel recruit.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 03, 2015, 05:30:00 PM
Dana Balash @DanaBalash21  ∑  45m 45 minutes ago
.@21WFMJSports  Mooney's WR D.J. Anderson verbals to Youngstown State

Never heard of this kid. Sounds like a partial or a walk on.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: DoubleE on February 03, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
It should be noted that the rumored OSU RB transfer Bri'onte Dunn was a Tressel recruit.

Tressel/Fickell Recruit
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 03, 2015, 09:27:12 PM
Dana Balash @DanaBalash21  ∑  21m 21 minutes ago

@21WFMJSports  Struthers Austin Yemma will sign with #Youngstown State as a preferred walk on.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2980665/austin-yemma
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 03, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
6:00 news said Anderson from Mooney was a walk-on.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 03, 2015, 10:28:48 PM
What does a walk-on sign, 05 ?

It sounds like another inflated story of local stars nobody offered schollie to.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 03, 2015, 10:45:28 PM
What does a walk-on sign, 05 ?

It sounds like another inflated story of local stars nobody offered schollie to.

I think your exactly right. Funny how that comes out day before NSD... Lol
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on February 04, 2015, 06:51:01 AM
He doesn't sign anything but because he went to Mooney people in the Mahoning Valley think he's good.  For example my father (who went to Mooney) is still brainwashed in thinking that every Mooney football player is scholarship eligible anywhere, calls me on the phone to tell me that Pelini signed a kid from Mooney.   I told him that he's probably not good enough to play and then he begins a new argument how they have such a great football team etc.   I tell him watch and see.  But if there are local kids on the team crowd turnout will be better even if we lose.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 04, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
Hey Penquinpower, Sorry, but I doubt having a WR who is deep down the depth chart will increase attendance more than 2 (parents) if we loose!  Everybody needs special team players, hopefully he can help out there at least.  I have a friend who is the same as your dad with OSU.  EVERY player is going to be all-pro someday! 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 04, 2015, 08:58:34 AM
Or even if we lose.  Sorry, bad speller, but worse typist!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on February 04, 2015, 09:09:11 AM
Hey Penquinpower, Sorry, but I doubt having a WR who is deep down the depth chart will increase attendance more than 2 (parents) if we loose!  Everybody needs special team players, hopefully he can help out there at least.  I have a friend who is the same as your dad with OSU.  EVERY player is going to be all-pro someday!


Then how is it they get 17k at a Mooney vs Ursuline game and 2000 at a YSU game?  Just saying.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 04, 2015, 01:29:46 PM
Penquinpower,  You think they go to Mooney because it's Mooney?  Let them lose for a few years and YSU make the playoffs for a few under Bo and you'll see a complete turnaround.  We won't see this happen of course.  Because of the unfair recruiting advantage the Catholic schools have, Mooney will always contend, but you'll see 17000+ at YSU in 2015. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 04, 2015, 01:44:02 PM
17000+ ?  Butts in seats ?  In 2015 ?    Man that must be some powerful dope you are  smoking.

The hype machine is in full bloom !  ;D
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 04, 2015, 02:12:34 PM
Penquinpower,  You think they go to Mooney because it's Mooney?  Let them lose for a few years and YSU make the playoffs for a few under Bo and you'll see a complete turnaround.  We won't see this happen of course.  Because of the unfair recruiting advantage the Catholic schools have, Mooney will always contend, but you'll see 17000+ at YSU in 2015.

We will average more than that. It will settle down to that amount. I expect the first few game to be sellouts, so the average will be 17k or above.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 04, 2015, 03:22:37 PM
Hey 1AA, I'm pretty optimistic, but averaging 17K is quite a step up.  We'll probably start with a loss, so even the first home game is questionable to get to 17K.  Plus, we have some HUGE question marks on defense, where we are desperate for secondary help along with LB DT and K & P Offense needs TE C and WR.  That's a lot of questions for a team that is 4-4 last season against BCS schools that offer scholarships.  If Bo gets started ok and we win a few, then maybe we can approach 17K after the first game, but weíve been quite a while since we have been completive on a national state, letís not get carried away!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 04, 2015, 03:48:46 PM
YSU  starts with a loss to Pitt as Narduzzi loads up on the Guins. Then the first home games are against major  WEENIES  Robert Morris and St. Francis. YSU will not be picked to finish in the Top 3 of the MVFC and you guys are talking 17000+ ?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ROFLMAO !
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 04, 2015, 04:24:18 PM
You have some good points Go guins, but I still think we will be doing well. Perhaps 17k average is bit high, but not much. Here is why:

1. I think the fact that there is a sense of newness.
2. Improved defensive play, which we all expect.
3. The locality of this first recruiting cla$$. When is the last time any of us saw older and younger fans in attendance? I am almost 50, so I am old, but I am talking even older. Likewise, I am not talking about students (yet), but young parents (those with kids from toddler through HS) and high-school kids themselves. The university better bone-up and pay to keep these tailgate lots open and protected all day (including during the game).
4. The game against Pitt will be largely irrelevant as with much of the money games. Fans expect to lose, even though we have beaten Pitt once.
5. The level of expectation is higher. This will taper down as we reach mid-season. However, at that point, the conference-only fan-base (those interested in better games) should begin to show up. The net result is similar-levels.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 04, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
This is not "hype machine" but it is true anecdotal information.   I was in the bookstore buying my brother a hooded sweatshirt for Christmas and it was busy even though school was on break.  I ask the cashier about it and she said it ďhad been busy since the new coach was hired.Ē  Thought that was a good sign for the first home game.  Schedule is tough enough, but no Northern Iowa who I think will be #1 at the end of the season.  Need to go 8-4 or roof will fall, attendance wise.  (hoodie was BEAUTIFUL!)
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 04, 2015, 07:16:03 PM
Got a chance to listen to Bo's press conference on incoming cla$$. He was very clear on 3 major points. The want to recruit local kids - Recruiting kids from successful programs - and the need to take extra players to add depth to the roster. He stated that the measurable's of the players didn't play a role In the thought process. I feel you can get away with that at the D-2 D-3 and lower conference programs of the D-1 FCS level but not the Missouri. It's SPEED ON SPEED, SIZE ON SIZE, STRENGHT ON STRENGHT - EVERY SINGLE DOWN. Being a smart and tough player won't overcome physical weaknesses completely on this level. Take the T.E. for example we targeted from Indiana that committed to Indiana State. Look at his film and then look at the film on the linebacker's that just committed here. Who do you think wins that BATTLE? I've watched film on all the other Missouri conference teams commits..There is speed at every position, that is what this year's cla$$ is lacking. I can see why Bo took the recruiting approach he did and I can respect that. I just hope in the near future he doesn't avoid other parts of the Nation completely - That would be a huge mistake
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on February 04, 2015, 07:34:51 PM
Got a chance to listen to Bo's press conference on incoming cla$$. He was very clear on 3 major points. The want to recruit local kids - Recruiting kids from successful programs - and the need to take extra players to add depth to the roster. He stated that the measurable's of the players didn't play a role In the thought process. I feel you can get away with that at the D-2 D-3 and lower conference programs of the D-1 FCS level but not the Missouri. It's SPEED ON SPEED, SIZE ON SIZE, STRENGHT ON STRENGHT - EVERY SINGLE DOWN. Being a smart and tough player won't overcome physical weaknesses completely on this level. Take the T.E. for example we targeted from Indiana that committed to Indiana State. Look at his film and then look at the film on the linebacker's that just committed here. Who do you think wins that BATTLE? I've watched film on all the other Missouri conference teams commits..There is speed at every position, that is what this year's cla$$ is lacking. I can see why Bo took the recruiting approach he did and I can respect that. I just hope in the near future he doesn't avoid other parts of the Nation completely - That would be a huge mistake

What grade do you give this cla$$?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on February 04, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
Penguin power that would be unfair to Bo considering the short length of time on the job. Definitely A - for effort. It's just to early like Bo said. Several of the players could be playing different positions then what they were recruited for coming out of H.S. and some have to grow into their bodies Etc.- time will tell. I DON'T think as many will contribute this year like wolf's cla$$ did last year. Several could contribute on special teams.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: paladin on February 04, 2015, 09:28:34 PM
I'd echo that , Fever. Here is what I see wrong with this year's cla$$ --

1. Many of the recruits  have  size issues -- short, need weight and will face mismatch problems. Some have questionable speed.

2. Many of the recruits are limited in abilities for this level of play. We gave schollies to those who will not play here.

3. PLayers come from an area already over-recruited and limited in number of quality players for this level, leaving few quality players. Not recruiting  Fla., Cal. and Texas will be a mistake.

4. The MVFC, since Wolf arrived, have pa$$ed FCS as a whole and is far too competitive to bring in players lacking size , speed or ability level and expect to compete well or finish in the Top 3, which means playoffs remain a problem.

5. We brought in Valley recruits in numbers and will result in wasted schollies. If this continues, forget about playoffs and worry that losing records are on the way.

Other than Nebraska transfer  Moss, there is no real headliner. And if he doesn't keep his nose clean or becomes an internal problem with the team, then the cla$$ is a bust. Appears that we recruited "practice players". There are some good players here , but few in number and the vast majority may not make much contribution. This can not happen again next year. Or there will be problems. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: YSUGO on February 04, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Watched Pelini comments and watched highlight video of recruits also Reviewed North Dakota Northern Iowa and Illinois St. cla$$es.  The Bison had decent size and recruited there core areas Wisconsin and Minnesota didn't see any Florida recruits in this years cla$$ Illinois St. had a 3 star Db I think and recruited speed and had 3 or 4 transfers. Recruited a lot from there core area Northern Iowa's Coach Farley who I like a lot said we recruited Iowa first that is who we are and that the kids have great work ethic etc.  So maybe Bo who said he is recruiting the State of Youngstown is looking at the top 3 programs and see's it starts at home.  I also checked Indiana St they got some more big guys.  We better bulk up because we sure didn't get any bigger but I do feel we got better at Db and Safety and we got better at Wr as well. I liked the Malone kid The lb from Indiana and Larkin...the Transfer from Nebraska will be an impact guy too.  I don't think we hurt our selfs with the lineman recruits but thought our Lbs were smallish but a couple had good closing speed. I thought the Qb from Urbana was a steal as well as Scott from Hubbard.  Coaching will come into play with this cla$$ Wolf couldn't coach his kids up and it didn't get us that one more win to get into the playoffs.  I have to believe with Pelini having success at Nebraska LSU and in the pro's we will be better prepared focused and get that one more W.  He is a proven Winner and the kids will respond to him.  Wolf was a proven recruiter and basically was learning how to Coach a program and even though he improved he never got the kids to stay focused and we always went zero for November and it was his undoing. 



Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Observer on February 04, 2015, 09:56:31 PM
A.  The arguments of the MVFC having "pa$$ed the FCS" and "Size on Size" are infinitely more laughable than 17k attendance.   Given a good game against Narduzzi and Pitt I could see 17k for the home opener if marketed correctly.  But pretending that YSU needs Marcus Mariotta or Braxton Miller to come in to win a IAA championship is ridiculous at worst.

B.  The local strategy isn't a great one in terms of talent, but in terms of work and pride its a great idea.  Lets face it, No one takes Youngstown more seriously than those from Youngstown.  Local kids are going to be exponentially more prideful and loyal when it comes to the success of YSU.  Now the older generations may think the scholarship and "opportunity" are supposed to make you prideful and loyal, wherever your from, the simple fact is YSU is not that kind of school and with this generation, it does not. 

C.  Id rather have a team full of 2 star recruits that will play until their burger every week, Than a team full of talented "cod-pieces" who think they've only "ended up" at a program and will be playing in the league soon anyway.

D. This approach takes a coaches that can make athletes better, not just keep them good.  From the HC to the weight room, things better be on point, Or it will end horribly.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
I'd echo that , Fever. Here is what I see wrong with this year's cla$$ --

1. Many of the recruits  have  size issues -- short, need weight and will face mismatch problems. Some have questionable speed.

2. Many of the recruits are limited in abilities for this level of play. We gave schollies to those who will not play here.

3. PLayers come from an area already over-recruited and limited in number of quality players for this level, leaving few quality players. Not recruiting  Fla., Cal. and Texas will be a mistake.

4. The MVFC, since Wolf arrived, have pa$$ed FCS as a whole and is far too competitive to bring in players lacking size , speed or ability level and expect to compete well or finish in the Top 3, which means playoffs remain a problem.

5. We brought in Valley recruits in numbers and will result in wasted schollies. If this continues, forget about playoffs and worry that losing records are on the way.

Other than Nebraska transfer  Moss, there is no real headliner. And if he doesn't keep his nose clean or becomes an internal problem with the team, then the cla$$ is a bust. Appears that we recruited "practice players". There are some good players here , but few in number and the vast majority may not make much contribution. This can not happen again next year. Or there will be problems.


Cannot think of a year that you did not say the same dang thing ...almost word-per-word, less the MVFC crap. Heck New Hampshire would have horse-whipped NDSU ...they unfortunately had to play ILS with more offensive firepower than the Bison.

Here is your Bison cla$$:

Jack Albrecht   Bio   26428   OL   6-5   275   Fr.   Rolling Meadows, Ill. (Fremd HS)
Zack J. Johnson   Bio   26428   OL   6-6   261   Fr.   Blaine, Minn. (Spring Lake Park HS)
Trent Mooney   Bio   26428   OL   6-5   255   Fr.   Lamar, Mo. (Lamar HS)
---All the steroids in the world are not going to make these guys 300lbs.
Zack has decent resume & at this level Mooney is going nowhere but TE or other side of the ball.


Matt Anderson   Bio   26428   TE   6-4   240   Fr.   Lakeland, Minn. (Stillwater HS)
Ben Ellefson   Bio   26428   TE   6-4   226   Fr.   Hawley, Minn. (Hawley HS)
Bruce Anderson   Bio   26428   RB   6-0   195   Fr.   Ruskin, Fla. (Newsome HS)
Marquise Bridges   Bio   26428   WR   6-0   170   Fr.   Brooklyn Park, Minn. (DeLaSalle HS)
Jake Brinkman   Bio   26428   LB   6-0   205   Fr.   North Liberty, Iowa (Regina HS)
Ty Brooks   Bio   26428   DB   5-9   155   Fr.   Fargo, N.D. (Fargo South HS)
Jaxon Brown   Bio   26428   DB   6-2   195   Fr.   Eau Claire, Wis. (Regis HS)
Bryan Carlton   Bio   26428   DT   6-4   250   Fr.   Chanha$$en, Minn. (Minnetonka HS)
Jack Darnell   Bio   26428   DT   6-3   280   Fr.   Champlin, Minn. (Champlin Park HS)
Dom Davis   Bio   26428   DB   6-0   171   Fr.   Millstadt, Ill. (Belleville West HS)
Robbie Grimsley   Bio   26428   DB   6-1   185   Fr.   Hutchinson, Minn. (Hutchinson HS)
James Hendricks   Bio   26428   QB   6-2   185   Fr.   Laporte, Minn. (Bemidji HS)
Connor Hubbs   Bio   26428   DT   6-2   272   Fr.   White Bear Lake, Minn. (White Bear Lake HS)
Cole Karcz   Bio   26428   DE   6-4   225   Fr.   Germantown, Wis. (Germantown HS)
Aaron Mercadel   Bio   26428   LB   6-0   195   Fr.   Oakland, Calif. (Saint Mary's College HS)
Demaris Purifoy   Bio   26428   RB   6-1   185   Fr.   Wauwatosa, Wis. (Wauwatosa West HS)
Brock Robbins   Bio   26428   FB   6-2   215   Fr.   Cavalier, N.D. (Cavalier HS)
Braden Sikes   Bio   26428   DB   6-0   188   Fr.   Excelsior, Minn. (Minnetonka HS)
Derrek Tuszka   Bio   26428   DE   6-5   218   Fr.   Warner, S.D. (Warner HS)
Dimitri Williams   Bio   26428   WR   6-0   185   Fr.   Lakeville, Minn. (Rosemount HS)

They have two stud recruits, a DE with a great build & the rest is plain-Jane. I don't get you sometimes, you just have to complain. Then in 2 years you will talk about how great this YSU cla$$ was & you called it #1 in the MVFC.

Can you not see how important it is for YSu to become a destination once again? Aside from some previously profitable schools outside of our area, we need to be getting guys from here for this to happen..

Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: YsuPride on February 05, 2015, 07:19:28 AM
I would think we will see more FBS transfers coming in by spring or summer.  The kid from Hubbard is D1 player and we got him. Great get.   I think the cla$$ on paper may not seem great but at least 8-10 of them will be good. The staff only had 6 weeks to recruit and with most players coming back it only takes good coaching to get us to the playoffs.  We shall see.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 05, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
1AA Fan are you actually that nieve regarding PED's?  Those guys you say "will never be 300" will absolutely all be 300, most of them by this fall, all of them by next fall. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: HappyPenguin on February 05, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
Theres no way we had enough scholarships for this cla$$.

Take it for what it is. He's recruiting some players that fit his style, not Wolf's, with limited resources he can offer.

That's fine by me. He had limited time as well, and still grabbed a couple good looking players.

Guys that can hit and tackle are definitely more of an MVFC fit.

Let's see what transfers we get and what he can do with a full year.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 05, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
Iím somewhat at a loss to see the criticism of this cla$$ based on size.  Every safety recruit is taller than Troy Polamalu and I believe bigger than Troy before getting to USC.  Every cornerback recruit is taller and bigger than Joe Haden.  Every WR recruit is bigger than Julian Edelman.  NOW DONíT GET ME WRONG, I am NOT saying we recruited the next Troy, Joe or Julian, but they are plenty big enough to get the job done.  In addition the OL are all 6-4 so they can all get to 310-320 and the DL are all 6-1 or so, and can easily get to 280.  This is NFL size, maybe (certainly) not NFL quality, but size wise I see no issues.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 05, 2015, 12:23:21 PM
Iím somewhat at a loss to see the criticism of this cla$$ based on size.  Every safety recruit is taller than Troy Polamalu and I believe bigger than Troy before getting to USC.  Every cornerback recruit is taller and bigger than Joe Haden.  Every WR recruit is bigger than Julian Edelman.  NOW DONíT GET ME WRONG, I am NOT saying we recruited the next Troy, Joe or Julian, but they are plenty big enough to get the job done.  In addition the OL are all 6-4 so they can all get to 310-320 and the DL are all 6-1 or so, and can easily get to 280.  This is NFL size, maybe (certainly) not NFL quality, but size wise I see no issues.  Am I missing something?

My size comment was on the Bison's recruiting cla$$ go guins. Our cla$$ size/weight is above average. I have no complaints and will also ask anyone to look at some of the film. These guys seem comfortable penetrating on both sides of their opposition.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: HappyPenguin on February 05, 2015, 01:00:04 PM
Iím somewhat at a loss to see the criticism of this cla$$ based on size.  Every safety recruit is taller than Troy Polamalu and I believe bigger than Troy before getting to USC.  Every cornerback recruit is taller and bigger than Joe Haden.  Every WR recruit is bigger than Julian Edelman.  NOW DONíT GET ME WRONG, I am NOT saying we recruited the next Troy, Joe or Julian, but they are plenty big enough to get the job done.  In addition the OL are all 6-4 so they can all get to 310-320 and the DL are all 6-1 or so, and can easily get to 280.  This is NFL size, maybe (certainly) not NFL quality, but size wise I see no issues.  Am I missing something?

All great points here.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 05, 2015, 01:26:19 PM
1AA I was not refering to you.  I was refering to Paladin . "Many of the recruits  have  size issues -- short, need weight and will face mismatch problems." and Footballfever regarding the size issues.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ysufan0505 on February 05, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
Tough to criticize this cla$$ because Bo did not have a lot of time to put it together. Relying on the coaches he kept to help him.

Most of the local players won't see the field besides Scott from Hubbard at WR and Kennedy at kicker.

I like the couple O-Lineman from PA... That has been a good get for us lately in that area. Big O-Lineman from Illinois needs to get in shape but could be a starter here soon.

I also like the DB's from Woodland Hills and LaSalle, if developed right can be solid players and really like the DT from Syracuse, NY. About 275-280 and he has a quick first step off the ball. Same with the DE from Michigan if he can put on some weight. WR from Toledo CC is a burner, very elusive. Could be an a$$et. Like the LB from Penn Hills if he can put on some weight and keep his quickness. Big hitter, good closing speed.

Overall, not a great cla$$ but some guys who I think can really make an impact.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: OleYSUfan on February 05, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
Why are we criticizing our new recruits? I agree with the list that fan0505 mentioned that are solid players. There are 8-12 recruits who will make an impact in our future.

Let's see what Bo and his staff can do, I know one sure thing, our defense will definitely improve.   
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 05, 2015, 03:44:24 PM
Bo said in the signing day presser that he hadn't wanted too much film of the players "on campus", but based on this cla$$, I'm not sure I buy that 100%.  He notes we need depth.  We do.  Every year under Wolford we lead multiple games at the half or 3/4 and lost in the 4th qtr. Some of these LB's RB's and DB's that posters say aren't going to get snaps are going to get a series in the 2nd qtr and a series early in the 4th qtr and maybe we won't run out of gas every big game.  Pelini also says we need to be in top shape and that hasn't been true under Eric.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spiderlegs on February 05, 2015, 08:11:44 PM
Way too much debate about size here. At Nebraska Pelini was known to intentionally take skill over size. His position was that some of the biggest players by weight were so big that they did not perform optimally. There's also an a$$umption in the Pelini world that players grow and develop--the idea that players should develop once they arrived on campus was not much of a priority under W.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 06, 2015, 09:15:15 AM
Has anyone bothered to see if there are any changes in the strength and conditioning coaches?
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: YSU45 on February 06, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
IAA, not yet.  There could be. I did hear Rolin Smith is leaving but not forced out.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: penguinpower on February 06, 2015, 10:22:38 AM
I thought it was Mike Cochran
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: YSU45 on February 06, 2015, 10:31:49 AM
Yes, Mike is the Head guy.  Rolin was a helper.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 09, 2015, 08:42:58 AM
Nothing I like better that some Spiderleg guy telling me "there is way too much discussion about size" and then proceeds to give me a lesson on each coaches philosophy regarding size.  The average height and weight of last yearís Nebraska OL was just about on a par with the Browns (and the 2014 Penguins)  so athletic ability is by far the most important element.  My original comment was directed at the comments regarding 6-4 275 players being too small and my observation that at 6-4 they would grow into 310-320 linemen.  I stand by my comments that the 6-4 275 recruit isnít ďtoo smallĒ. 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spiderlegs on February 09, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
go guin, for the record, I was referring to the rather tedious discussion of analyzing each new player in MVFC by height and weight and then concluding that originally NDSU and then later most of the MVFC will have a better team than YSU.  I'm not far from you on this point, but development need not include an increase in size--it can also include a decrease to get to an optimal playing weight.  Bo Pelini: "There's a misconception that you've got to be this big, huge guy to play this game. It's about explosiveness and athleticism, and the rest will come."

I, for one, am willing to give Pelini the benefit of the doubt.  Contrary to some, I don't think 9-3 at Nebraska is too shabby.

http://www.kearneyhub.com/huskersnews/pelini-s-nu-body-shop-strives-for-fast-and-physical/article_c2502c4c-1259-5d12-9317-25cd2594c5c5.html
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: IAA Fan on February 09, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
It is the "physical" part of this we need the most work on.
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 10, 2015, 08:27:31 AM
1AA, I agree with the need to be more "physical".  Coach Pelini also sees it as a depth issue.  We lost so many games during the Wolford era after leading at the 1/2, or even after 3/4 it was discouraging.  I remember the good old Tressel days, and saying to my brother, "we've got this one in good shape, we're only down 7 at the half!"  And it seemed we came back every time to win the close ones.  I'm sure my "memory" makes things better over the years, but we played for the national championship 6 times and won 4 and I thought we had the best players on the field in only one of those games! 
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: go guins on February 10, 2015, 08:35:48 AM
Spiderlegs, sorry, didn't mean to be overly sensitive!  Funny, but explosiveness and athleticism vs. size might be better suited for 1AA than 1A.   I remember wondering when Tressel went to Columbus, how he would do with the higher quality athletes.  He did great getting more out 2nd tier players than anybody else, but would he be able to do the same with the ***** guy?  Now I wonder if 1AA might actually be better suited for Bo than 1A?  Time will tell!
Title: Re: 2015 YSU Football Recruiting Thread
Post by: ValleyTalk on February 11, 2015, 08:17:28 PM
@PrepVilla Congrats to Prep Senior RB Bryce Boyd. Today he committed to play football at Youngstown State next season.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3969399/bryce-boyd