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Title: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on June 29, 2017, 08:37:42 AM
The Youngstown State men's basketball team released the 2017-18 non-Horizon League portion of its schedule which features contests against a Big Ten team, a Mountain West Conference school and a pair of schools from the Big East Conference, first-year Head Coach Jerrod Calhoun announced on Wednesday.

For the first time in school history, the Penguins will face Big Ten member Indiana, and will take on former Horizon League foe Butler (25-9), and DePaul, both members of the Big East. Youngstown State will also play Utah State of the Mountain West for the first time in school history.

The Penguins' 2017-18 Division I non-league opponents combined for 167 wins and five teams made the postseason.

"I think we accomplished what we set out to do when we got here," Calhoun said. "We are playing a variety of schools from different parts of the country with different styles and different coaches. I think we challenged ourselves and we are excited about it."

The Penguins open the campaign against NCAA Tournament participant Kent State (22-14) on Nov. 11 in the Third Annual Northeast Ohio Coaches vs. Cancer Doubleheader at the University of Akron.

Sandwiched between the home opener against Franciscan on Nov. 14 and a home game against Westminster on Nov. 21 is a return game at Canisius on Nov. 18 in Buffalo, N.Y.

The Penguins then head to South Dakota to play in the Sanford Pentagon Showcase, Nov. 24-26, in Sioux Falls, S.D. Youngstown State will face Northern Colorado on Nov. 24, Southern Mississippi on Nov. 25 and South Dakota (22-12) on Nov. 26. The home contest against Westminster is also part of the exempt tournament.

The Penguins will play their final non-league home game against Robert Morris on Nov. 29.

The final five non-league games will be on the road at DePaul (Dec. 2), at Butler (Dec. 9), at Idaho State (Dec. 18), at Utah State (Dec. 20) and at Indiana (Dec. 29).

The complete schedule will be released later this summer.   


November
Sat. 11    vs. Kent State @ University of Akron - J.A.R. Arena          TBA    
Tue. 14    Franciscan                    TBA    
Sat. 18    at Canisius          TBA    
Tue. 21    Westminster (Pa.)          TBA    
Fri. 24    vs. Northern Colo. @ Sioux Falls, S.D.          9:00 PM    
Sat. 25    vs. Southern Miss. @ Sioux Falls, S.D.          7:30 PM    
Sun. 26    vs. South Dakota @ Sioux Falls, S.D.          12:00 PM    
Wed. 29    Robert Morris          TBA    

 
December
Sat. 2    at DePaul          TBA    
Sat. 9    at Butler                   TBA    
Mon. 18    at Idaho St.          TBA    
Wed. 20    at Utah St.          TBA    
Fri. 29    at Indiana          TBA
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: Dmorton on June 29, 2017, 09:54:02 AM
No one should complain about this schedule!!!!  It will be demanding!!!
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: YsuPride on June 29, 2017, 02:02:40 PM
Very hard non-conference away schedule. The home schedule really stinks though. I think coach will change that in the future but this year only three non-conference games at home.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: ytownchief22 on June 29, 2017, 07:00:57 PM
Trib reported that WVU or the Buckeyes are coming to Covelli in 2018.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on June 30, 2017, 08:36:02 AM
Very hard non-conference away schedule. The home schedule really stinks though. I think coach will change that in the future but this year only three non-conference games at home.

Coach will have nothing to do with it, just as no other coach ever has. If you want a more demanding schedule, then you had better be prepared to travel, so back your bags. Read any article about Horizon League era Butler and that is a recurring theme. We are not traveling to bigger clubs to challenge ourselves; we are looking for the paycheck to pay our new staff. Scheduling is all about $$$.

As to OSU, I can believe they would come here if their is a tournament. Also, that program has just taken a major step backwards. This new coach (for OSU) had better win big early, or it is going to mean the Buckeyes spend the next 5-seasons trying to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: go guins on June 30, 2017, 10:55:22 AM
Very hard non-conference away schedule. The home schedule really stinks though. I think coach will change that in the future but this year only three non-conference games at home.

Coach will have nothing to do with it, just as no other coach ever has. If you want a more demanding schedule, then you had better be prepared to travel, so back your bags. Read any article about Horizon League era Butler and that is a recurring theme. We are not traveling to bigger clubs to challenge ourselves; we are looking for the paycheck to pay our new staff. Scheduling is all about $$$.

As to OSU, I can believe they would come here if their is a tournament. Also, that program has just taken a major step backwards. This new coach (for OSU) had better win big early, or it is going to mean the Buckeyes spend the next 5-seasons trying to prove themselves.
While I agree with much of what you post here, particularly the $$$ issue, you continue to amaze me with the depth of your naivety regarding somebody’s job description vs. coach's influence in scheduling, coaches, hiring etc.
Your statement: "Coach will have nothing to do with it, just as no other coach ever has." simply is naive in its assessment.   All coaches have influence in scheduling, even poor ones, much less aggressive up and comers like Calhoun.  I also believe you and others on your blog have been very "understated" in the responsibility and therefore praise due one JT for turning around the athletic programs at YSU.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: YsuPride on June 30, 2017, 04:42:02 PM
I believe the coach does have say so in the schedule. My son went to his basketball camp last week. He was very involved in the camp and did a lot of teaching and coaching. I wish him good luck and wise i asked him a few questions and he did say he's going to improve the schedule at home. I think he just got stuck with slocum's schedule for this coming year. But we're probably going to pay people to come here a little bit more to attract better competition
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on July 01, 2017, 01:18:22 PM
If you are talking about rewarding a coach by playing their former employer then ...yes a coach does have influence, but that is about it. Tressel was the exception, as he was both AD and HC at YSU, so scheduling was part of his job description. Later YSU's playing FB at Ohio Stadium came from respect for Tressel at OSU, but never would have come if it were not for an NCAA ruling, no matter how much Tressel wished it would.

Now some coaches do have powerful friends & can be influential in obtaining slots in tourneys or playing a $$$ game. YSU is not that small of a MBB school that a coach has many responsibilities outside of his players/staff and required marketing. You people are not willing to accept the fact that anything good and bad in a schedule comes from the Athletic Department administration. Typical. Slocum was not responsible for the weaker early schedules and the better latter schedules and Calhoun will be the same.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: YsuPride on July 01, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
Bottom line is we got to coach this probably going to kick some butt here. I'm looking forward to the new season and a lot of these new players. It may take time to get us to 20 wins but I bet he does and moves on to bigger and better things. Now I will return the beeghly now that Slocum is gone. Mark my word the home schedule will get better I think it's all because of the new head coach
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: Wick250 on July 01, 2017, 05:11:32 PM
Calhoun did a radio interview on one of the local stations on Thursday.  In response to a question from the host, he stated that Director of Player Personnel, Kevin Bruinsma, arranged the ooc schedule for this season. Calhoun also said that we are playing so many money games because he wants to finance renovations in the gym.  He did not specify exactly what renovations he has in mind.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 01, 2017, 10:04:16 PM
Calhoun absolutely has a say in the schedule. Strollo can stick to doing... whatever he's been doing.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: go guins on July 03, 2017, 09:38:32 AM
Calhoun absolutely has a say in the schedule. Strollo can stick to doing... whatever he's been doing.
Calhoun isn't helping Strollo make the schedule, he (and his very competent staff) ARE THE ONES making the schedule.  Chief, you are 100% right, Strollo should stick to whatever it is he does with his time.  NO, on second thought, the thing I remember most about Strollo's year is screwing up BIG TIME and sending the Frisco tickets to JMU!  No, somebody needs to find a job for him to keep him out of the way.  Does JT need his shoes shined or something?
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on July 04, 2017, 09:19:00 AM
Calhoun absolutely has a say in the schedule. Strollo can stick to doing... whatever he's been doing.
Calhoun isn't helping Strollo make the schedule, he (and his very competent staff) ARE THE ONES making the schedule.  Chief, you are 100% right, Strollo should stick to whatever it is he does with his time.  NO, on second thought, the thing I remember most about Strollo's year is screwing up BIG TIME and sending the Frisco tickets to JMU!  No, somebody needs to find a job for him to keep him out of the way.  Does JT need his shoes shined or something?

Oh here it is. Another completely unproven claim. Now had we sold out it would have been Tressel's doing ... LOL . You guys make me laugh so hard sometimes. So which is it? If Calhoun is Hero, Tressel brought him in; if a failure, another bad Strollo hire. ;). Do you want to know what Strollo does Chief and Go?  In a word ...EVERYTHING. He may not chase down every team for our schedule, but he does hire the person that does and Strollo approves that schedule. Tressel, the complete opposite; but he does hire the AD's (well at least at the executive level). BTW, you guys are aware that the conference operations department does the HL scheduling right? Wick is right on our former operations man did ours. I am not sure what Bruinsma will do for us in the future; with his contacts and if he has admin skills we should keep him. However we did hire Richmond. I am not sure if Managers and Directors fall under coaching staff budget dollar$, or admin staff ... anyone know?

Scheduling is more than calling or taking calls from bigger universities. We receive updates on openings from conferences, then look at things like student schedules, lodging, transportation, return requirements (if any) and much more. We have to get on waiting lists for tournaments & if the accept us, we need to try and fit it in. Then we have to publish our schedule openings and call on local smaller schools to come here, as we do not have the funds to provide for travel.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: ValleyTalk on July 04, 2017, 09:42:16 AM
Give credit where it is due... Strollo has this department moving in the right direction and I truly believe we are on the cusp of something special with our MBB and WBB programs. His focus on improving our facilities, or in the case of the WATTS, Farmers National Bank Field, and the YSU Softball Complex building new facilities to help our programs compete on the D1 level, is paying big dividends now. It never hurts to have a President that has an Athletic background, but to give Strollo no credit is a major disservice IMHO.

While other nearby college athletic departments are facing major budget hurdles, Strollo has our department in sound fiscal shape and he and his staff should be commended for that.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: go guins on July 05, 2017, 09:59:35 AM
1AA
Strollo has almost every single program going down the crap hole for a dozen years, then Tressel shows up and he suddenly gets smart and hard working?  YOU make us laugh! (Your funniest one is giving Strollo credit for the WATTS)
If Calhoun is a bust, then it's all on JT, same as Pelini.  If Strollo isn't getting the bus, he better practice, so he has something worthwhile to do.
Leadership comes from the top.  JT is definitely setting the direction and providing the leadership.  The financial health of the AD comes from the financial health of the UNIVERSITY, (Under JT) not the other way around.  Why you disparage the greatest person YSU has ever known is beyond me.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: OleYSUfan on July 05, 2017, 10:08:37 AM
go guins:

A very good rebuttal. JT has done a magnificent job since taking the reins.

Thanks JT for all you have done!
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: go guins on July 05, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
go guins:

A very good rebuttal. JT has done a magnificent job since taking the reins.

Thanks JT for all you have done!
Thanks
The enrollment up for the first time in more than a decade.  Finances back under control.  Sports programs moving ahead and doing great in almost every sport.  That Strollo is a hell of a guy, isn’t he?
Although I dig at 1AA on Strollo, I do not think he is useless, but to give him credit for the turnaround of major sports after a dozen years of his abysmal leadership is unacceptable, IMO.  Pelini is here because of Tressel, NOT Strollo, Calhoun is here because of Tressel, NOT Strollo.  To believe otherwise is naive.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on July 05, 2017, 12:19:06 PM
Who is disparaging ANYTHING JT has done? I have always admired everything he has done. The man is your (and my) university president; outside of maybe the head of the board of trustees and the provost, the most powerful person in administration. I am simply giving credit to the right individuals. This conversion is about sports, not the university as a whole. Calhoun ...what does JT have to do with that hiring? Nothing & you know that. Calhoun is only slightly higher in stature than his predecessor. Pelini? Who was up all night before and right up to (during and after) the press conference talking with people as to what (if anything) Nebraska was going to do to Pelini for his commentary to his former Cornhusker players? It sure as heck was not JT, it was Strollo doing his job.

Don't for one second think that coach P helped anyone with his mouth. Had Strollo told Tressel the issue was serious, JT would not have introduced Pelini. In short JT introduced Pelini, the rest is all Strollo ...from the initial attorney's call to the contract signing. (This includes delicate negotiations with Nebraska). The same goes for Calhoun. It is you people that refuse to acknowledge what Strollo has done and continues to do for your school. Between Tressel and Strollo, you regard one as a Saint and the other a sinner. Well folks, there are not too many Saints banned from coaching by the NCAA. Ron Strollo is no Saint either ...far from. The truth is they are both good people somewhere in between.

I used to be embarrassed to bring anyone to YSU football games and show them anything but the stadium. Anyone here who does not say the same is simply lying to themselves and us. Now we walk around and see facilities that were never even dreamed. WATTS cost considerably more than the million dollars that Tressel's in-laws donated, yet you want to credit him for the whole building. IT was Strollo that had to pay for WATTS, the Rec Center and academic buildings with monies that were once targeted for athletics. Then when monies opened back up Strollo almost single-handily reshaped the campus and large portion of the city in the process. It was Strollo that gave us the NCAA title-X compliance that we were sorely lacking because AD Tressel (and his predecessor Malmusar) ignored it, falsely thinking it would just go away). It was (and is) Strollo that almost completely rebuilt women's athletics, saved two men's sports set for extinction ... thus making our athletic programs solid enough to move into any conference. Strollo moved us into a new conference (credit JT for starting it), gave us better scheduling (especially football which had a bad reputation in that area). It was Strollo that gave us post-season basketball but you people were just too ready to attack him for it ...because it was not the NCAA tourney (and many of you are the same type of fans that will attack us is we ever make the NIT instead). So why do you want to credit JT for so many of Strollo's accomplishments. The amount of $$$ that Strollo has brought this university is far more than anything JT has has ever brought and Tress will need to be president for a long time before that ever reverses itself.

Strollo is simply a local boy that has dedicated most of his adult life to YSU from the time he was a player, to becoming executive AD. He has the right system in place for the Guins to succeed now and in the future. SO what more do you want from him? He is responsible for everything you love and hate in YSU sports.
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: go guins on July 05, 2017, 04:16:55 PM

1AA you are simply delusional.
“Who is disparaging ANYTHING JT has done?” 
In a word?  YOU!!  Good grief, YOU ARE THE PERSON, ON YOUR OWN BLOG, WHO IS CREDITING STROLLO WITH THE WATTS CENTER.  I, on the other hand, rightly give the credit to JT and his extended family. You think Pelini or Calhoun would be here if JT wasn’t the President?  If you do, you are simply don't know how business works, and don't make the mistake of thinking of YSU as anything but a business.   
How soon do we get back to football, so you can start telling me how great Ricky and whomever else can throw the football.  If you go back and check, YOU had Hunter 4 string and I said he should start from spring ball of 2016.  Turns out you don’t know as much as you thought.  Even Calhoun said publicly the JT was the key guy.
You simply have a man-crush on Strollo.  LOOK AT HIS RECORD BEFORE JT CAME BACK... In a word: ABYSMAL, Since JT's return, GREAT.  (Secret, it's Tressel!) 
Strollo rebuilt the campus??  WTF are you talking about?  You list the President of the Trustees #1 the Provost #2 and the lowly president #3 (Dr. Abraham is listed as Provost and VP for Academic Affairs, which hardly seems higher ranking the Pres.) and yet you credit the AD (the same ******** that sent the Frisco tickets back to JMU) as rebuilding the whole campus?  Seriously?
Don't get me wrong.  Pelini is an ass, and at some point it will come back and bite us a bit, but we PLAYED FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!  In his 12 years prior what did Strollo do?  Barely ever made the playoffs.   MBB, POOR, WBB better but headed downhill in last few years before JT.
It seems to me the "local boy, dedicating his life to YSU" counts a TON with you.  Lots of incompetent and semi-competent dedicated people.  I want "DOERS!"
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on July 05, 2017, 07:20:19 PM

I want "DOERS!"

Yet you ignore the one you have & then call me delusional? You know I was not aware that WATTS cost only 2mil to build. Want to discuss the importance of positions in the university? Feel free, as if I truly care? My college is an academic institution first ...of course the Provost is elevated above university preseident ....it is simply respect. Do I think Calhoun and Pelini would be here if it was not for Tressel? No & no. He never would have made the Pelini mistake and we would have replaced Slocum 2 years earlier than we did, so Calhoun probably would not have been available.

You think a man walks on water & I think another man is good at his job ... So who has the "man-crush"?
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: go guins on July 06, 2017, 08:25:35 AM

I want "DOERS!"

Yet you ignore the one you have & then call me delusional? You know I was not aware that WATTS cost only 2mil to build. Want to discuss the importance of positions in the university? Feel free, as if I truly care? My college is an academic institution first ...of course the Provost is elevated above university preseident ....it is simply respect. Do I think Calhoun and Pelini would be here if it was not for Tressel? No & no. He never would have made the Pelini mistake and we would have replaced Slocum 2 years earlier than we did, so Calhoun probably would not have been available.

You think a man walks on water & I think another man is good at his job ... So who has the "man-crush"?
My man-crush is directed at the genius that is Jim Tressel, not some send back the tickets AD that is a leader of also rans and never were.  I read your posts and you know what, I think you actually believe Slocum, Abraham, et al are more valuable to YSU than is Jim Tressel.  You are seriously wrong and I almost feel sorry for you in your state of utter delusion.  I wonder what color the clouds are in your world?  Anyway.  By until football season (maybe)
Title: Re: Basketball Announces 2017-18 Non-Horizon League Slate
Post by: IAA Fan on July 07, 2017, 03:44:18 PM
Only 2 more weeks Go!!