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Title: Jambar Article
Post by: The YO Show on October 13, 2015, 01:13:51 PM
There was a jambar article calling for our offense to use a 2qb system (wells and davis). I feel like that idea is bad. It could derail our offense, or it could work.  The risk is much greater than reward in my opinion.
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: Penguin Nation on October 13, 2015, 01:38:57 PM
Link?

It is something to consider.  Maybe Davis in short yardage situations or in the red zone?  It seems to be working for tOSU.
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: The YO Show on October 13, 2015, 02:05:00 PM
http://www.thejambar.com/the-press-box-perspective-maybe-a-two-quarterback-systems-the-answer/

And Nation, I know OSU is doing it. Historically though, 2qb system hurts more often. Takes confidence from the starter. Look at pitt this year. Voytik lost his spot.
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: Buddy on October 14, 2015, 02:44:26 PM
Tressel would use two QBs quite often.  I thought it worked well.  Kept the defenses a little off
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: IAA Fan on October 14, 2015, 04:11:49 PM
Yes and no Buddy. I know that coach T used Cochran quite a bit behind Isaac, but that was because Ray was always banged-up ...again the disadvantage of a running QB. On the other hand. Demont Tidwell was perhaps our best overall QB of the 90's and Tressel only put him in with a rare injury & it really hurt us in 1996 (Tidwell's first year taking snaps). Then by 1997, he had converted Tidwell into a drop-back QB and won a championship.

Not saying that we could not try to inject some plays, but I would not want to do anything that could upset coach M's system.
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: Buddy on October 15, 2015, 10:40:27 AM
Used Ryan and Street and Zwick.  Brungaurd and Tidwell maybe too.  I would like to see a series or so or just on some downs.  Think this would be helpful to this offence....
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: go guins on October 15, 2015, 12:24:38 PM
Buddy, not sure I understand.  Are you touting Ryan, Steet and Zwick or Brungaurd and Tidwell as being a successful use of 2 QB's?  The earlier comment about Ray Isaac's back-up playing was in fact due to injury so it doesn't "count" in my book.  If you are, I don't agree.
You pick your best guy and play him.  If you have a junior/senior with a freshman backup, you try to get the freshman some snaps when you are way up (or down) in a game, getting ready for later, but if you want to win in football, you have 1 QB.  That's the rule and I don't know of a successful exception.  This mess on offense they have in Columbus certainly isn't an example of successful use of 2 QBs .  If they didn't have Elliott as the fall back in the second half, they might have a loss or 2 already. 
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: Buddy on October 15, 2015, 03:01:42 PM
No I am not touting anyone.  Just making the comment that JT used two QBs in the past.  Not saying I support a change just saying this worked for him.  We all knew Ryan was starting QB and took most of the snaps but Street would come in and run option  on a play or so and sometime be in for 3 or 4 downs..
Title: Re: Jambar Article
Post by: IAA Fan on October 15, 2015, 10:30:40 PM
One thing to note is that Cochran was a Big-10 drop-back passer ...with a much much better cannon than Isaac. So no one had any concerns when he was in. Great 1-2 punch. On the other hand, his mobility left some to be desired. That was Cooper's beef with him in Columbus. I thought he was an outstanding QB ...as was Isaac.