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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: DoubleE on December 17, 2014, 11:17:44 PM
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So has their been any rumors of recruits who YSU may have been an after thought that now that Bo is in town want to come to YSU ?
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I think his first stop should be Hubbard High School and talk to those players leaving the area to Toledo, WVU, etc...has to give it a try.
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I think his first stop should be Hubbard High School and talk to those players leaving the area to Toledo, WVU, etc...has to give it a try.
The understanding I get is neither Wolford or Stoops ever visited Hubbard. I think Hubbard's coach Brian Hoffman played for YSU.
Wasn't Stoops suppose to be this created golden link between the local schools and YSU?
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Yes Brain played for YSU as a LB for Tressel. Also Wofford has been recruiting hard at Hubbard trying to get any of the players he can. They have a good chance at Isiah Scott, the kid has Velcro for hands.
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Yes Brain played for YSU as a LB for Tressel. Also Wofford has been recruiting hard at Hubbard trying to get any of the players he can. They have a good chance at Isiah Scott, the kid has Velcro for hands.
I thought Isaiah was going to be a package deal with his brother at Michigan State?
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I was upset to learn Tyler Castillo-athlete from the Orlando area just committed to Colgate. He is a dynamic player that really enjoyed his visit here and I thought we had an excellent chance of landing him. Hopefully Bo will not let to many players like Tyler slip through the cracks
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I was upset to learn Tyler Castillo-athlete from the Orlando area just committed to Colgate. He is a dynamic player that really enjoyed his visit here and I thought we had an excellent chance of landing him. Hopefully Bo will not let to many players like Tyler slip through the cracks
I do not mind losing kids with brains. I expect it. A degree from Colgate. Now if the kid went as a player-only, then that just goes to show where our program is.
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I was upset to learn Tyler Castillo-athlete from the Orlando area just committed to Colgate. He is a dynamic player that really enjoyed his visit here and I thought we had an excellent chance of landing him. Hopefully Bo will not let to many players like Tyler slip through the cracks
I do not mind losing kids with brains. I expect it. A degree from Colgate. Now if the kid went as a player-only, then that just goes to show where our program is.
Wrong way to look at it Dan. Don't sell YSU short. Top 45 Engineering program worldwide. Better yet excellent STEM college. Tied into the technology corridor and on the forefront of 3D printing technology. I also have to say that the chemistry department is also a stand out especially Organic and Physical Chemistry. Really top notch in the country. Education and physical therapy are also strengths.
Tressel knows what we have too and it is the reason why he raised the admission standards. They've been selective in engineering for years. You can't just claim the major you have to be approved to be allowed into the major.
We should not expect kids not to choose us to other schools over academics. We offer a small pipeline of students for adanced degrees at several of the top research universities in the world........and our students are successful. That mentality needs to go away. This isn't the 1980's anymore. The school has come a long way academically and it is producing a high number of successful graduates. The school needs to do a better job of advertising this and the alumni need to realize that it has changed and continues to get better. For the cost of the degree I can't say I know a better institution....YSU is a bargain and the community stigma that it is not as good as surrounding Kent and Akron etc. Is complete misinformation.
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I was upset to learn Tyler Castillo-athlete from the Orlando area just committed to Colgate. He is a dynamic player that really enjoyed his visit here and I thought we had an excellent chance of landing him. Hopefully Bo will not let to many players like Tyler slip through the cracks
I wish him well, simple fact is that no school, no coach will land every recruit. Who knows all the reasons,
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I do not mind losing kids with brains. I expect it. A degree from Colgate. Now if the kid went as a player-only, then that just goes to show where our program is.
Don't sell YSU short. Top 45 Engineering program worldwide. Better yet excellent STEM college. Tied into the technology corridor and on the forefront of 3D printing technology. I also have to say that the chemistry department is also a stand out especially Organic and Physical Chemistry. Really top notch in the country. Education and physical therapy are also strengths.
We should not expect kids not to choose us to other schools over academics. We offer a small pipeline of students for adanced degrees at several of the top research universities in the world........and our students are successful. That mentality needs to go away. This isn't the 1980's anymore. The school has come a long way academically and it is producing a high number of successful graduates. The school needs to do a better job of advertising this and the alumni need to realize that it has changed and continues to get better. For the cost of the degree I can't say I know a better institution....YSU is a bargain and the community stigma that it is not as good as surrounding Kent and Akron etc. Is complete misinformation.
Exactly! Unfortunately until YSU decides to promote their educational values, Colgate and similar schools will seem to be the better choice. I don't see the faculty doing anything to help this cause either, but I suppose 'it is not their job'. Look at the number of engineering students YSU has among their athletes, but if you didn't read the player bio's who would know? Heck, I believe Steve Page is pursuing a Physician Assistant career path. This is why I wish we would run commercials similar to other schools where the athletes promote their education and their sport. Until then, we might as well change the school colors to camo.
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I actually feel just the opposite and my father was an engineering department dean for 30-years. YSU is an academic sell ...a Colgate degree sells itself. What YSU lacked for decades is what we now finally have ...general studies, athletic science degrees, etc. These are the things that are going to attract and keep top athletes. Let's face it; most top athletes (major sports) are marginal scholars. If we show a kid a program in teaching athletics, coaching, or the ability to play at YSU for 3+ years without having to declare ...then you have a recruit.
Lack of funds for these type of programs has plagued small schools (such as YSU) for years. Our money has to go for the basics (reading, writing and arithmetic). It is like my dad and I always say about Ohio State ...a Chinese national can get a PHD in advanced underwater basket-weaving if he/she can also play ping-pong.
So we are not selling YSU short, we are realizing what it takes to get and hold top athletes in today's market. Most of these guys do not want great Engineering programs, they want to stay in school for 3 to 5 seasons.
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most top athletes (major sports) are marginal scholars. If we show a kid a program in teaching athletics, coaching, or the ability to play at YSU for 3+ years without having to declare ...then you have a recruit.
Lack of funds for these type of programs has plagued small schools (such as YSU) for years. Our money has to go for the basics (reading, writing and arithmetic). It is like my dad and I always say about Ohio State ...a Chinese national can get a PHD in advanced underwater basket-weaving if he/she can also play ping-pong.
So we are not selling YSU short, we are realizing what it takes to get and hold top athletes in today's market. Most of these guys do not want great Engineering programs, they want to stay in school for 3 to 5 seasons.
Exactly what is wrong with scholarship college football and baketball; lowering the bar, throwing away all integrity and giving a student athlete the facade of an education in exchange for success in the 'market' that is college athletics. The price is too high.
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YSU is a bit schizophrenic on this point. Real student-athletes matter to the athletic department, but there aren't enough of them. Unfortunately, the number selecting General Studies as a major in contrast to involvement in a substantive area also seems to be growing.
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Very simply: You cant have both. Unless you are a power 5 team, you cannot have both. Look at the Ivy league teams. If your Harvard's football coach your only task is to beat Yale. You absolutely cannot practice kids 40 hours a week (even though NCAA rule says 20 hr max) and expect kids to be Organic Chem Majors.
YSU has, rough estimate 400 SA? and there are 2 academic service professionals on staff? Kent State has 10, Pitt has 10 plus a staff of 5 for Life Skills. These are not numbers that will encourage or create academic all-stars, when most of your recruiting area are kids that are considered at-risk. If real student-athletes matter perhaps funding should match that feeling. Not new uniforms and helmets every year.
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Very simply: You cant have both. If real student-athletes matter perhaps funding should match that feeling. Not new uniforms and helmets every year.
I understand your point, but I believe if you are talking funding it is totally different sources and difficult to compare. For my information, what type of jobs are available with a major in General Studies?
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Very simply: You cant have both. If real student-athletes matter perhaps funding should match that feeling. Not new uniforms and helmets every year.
I understand your point, but I believe if you are talking funding it is totally different sources and difficult to compare. For my information, what type of jobs are available with a major in General Studies?
according to some on this board, Tressel can all but walk on water, hard to believe that line items and accounting would be a weakness here. General Studies perhaps might be useful in managing grocery stores, or just an overall advancement in some sort of service industry. Not useless by any means, but you not the going to make a regional or national splash churning out Darden restaurant GM's.
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Maybe we need to get Nike to sponsor academics and leave UnderArmor with supplying the new helmets and jerseys. ;)
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Very simply: You cant have both. If real student-athletes matter perhaps funding should match that feeling. Not new uniforms and helmets every year.
I understand your point, but I believe if you are talking funding it is totally different sources and difficult to compare. For my information, what type of jobs are available with a major in General Studies?
Professional athlete :)
Sorry to be sarcastic, but it is the truth. We need these types of programs in order to compete with other top sports programs in the nation. Sure you can have things like black studies that are going to get Federal funding (as our gov't still lives in the late 19th century). However, these are not realistic majors for the vast majority of athletes ...regardless of skin color. No one is going to fund general studies or athletic sciences. Even the major sport apparel companies would rather put their name on the uniforms or on the buildings.
General studies is not designed to train you for a job ...it is designed to sure up weaknesses in your education ...which is why most of these are associates programs (all the more reason to eliminate, or take over, the Gateway CC). In fact, there are many programs in restaurant & food services management ...this includes those taught at YSU. However, schools like OSU or Penn State offer degrees in this ...again it is something that we cannot afford.
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Student-athletes at YSU tend to have higher GPAs than other students and graduate at a higher rate. The idea that many of them choose General Studies as a major is completely false. That is not an opinion. It is a fact verified by a look at the rosters from the university athletic site. A quick search reveals this.
Men's and women's basketball have NO General Studies majors
Softball and Volleyball have NO General Studies majors
Soccer has one
Men's and women's track and field combined have two
Football has only 7 General Studies majors, offset by the 9 football players who are majoring in engineering.
Power, I agree with everything that you said in your post of two days ago. And you even left out the world-renowned Dana School of Music. :D
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Student-athletes at YSU tend to have higher GPAs than other students and graduate at a higher rate. The idea that many of them choose General Studies as a major is completely false. That is not an opinion. It is a fact verified by a look at the rosters from the university athletic site. A quick search reveals this.
Men's and women's basketball have NO General Studies majors
Softball and Volleyball have NO General Studies majors
Soccer has one
Men's and women's track and field combined have two
Football has only 7 General Studies majors, offset by the 9 football players who are majoring in engineering.
Power, I agree with everything that you said in your post of two days ago. And you even left out the world-renowned Dana School of Music. :D
Sorry Wick.......forgot about that one. I am an engineer and music is not a strong point with me and I often forget about it.
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It's not about the degree you get from a college. It's what you do with that degree that matters. I have a General Studies degree from YSU and I make decent money especially for this area. I also have a few friends who majored in that as well. With a General Studies degree you still have to pick two areas of study. You also have to take just as many upper division classes as anyone else that graduates here with any other major. Read up on General Studies before looking down on it.
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Did we forget what this topic is about ? We need some tough guys coming to YSU. Go out & recruit. Damn you sisses suck.
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It's not about the degree you get from a college. It's what you do with that degree that matters. I have a General Studies degree from YSU and I make decent money especially for this area. I also have a few friends who majored in that as well. With a General Studies degree you still have to pick two areas of study. You also have to take just as many upper division classes as anyone else that graduates here with any other major. Read up on General Studies before looking down on it.
If you were referring to me.....I asked because I didn't know much about the curriculum or where it leads.
Would still like to know more, but this is not the time nor place.
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No, I wasn't referring to you scarlet rock. I was just saying basically any degree is what you make it.