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YSU Penguin Athletics => YSU Penguin Athletics => Topic started by: goodnews on March 02, 2024, 09:31:56 PM
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I know it's hard to compete with teams from warm climate in certain sports as I've experienced it myself. However, 8 games into the season and YSU has been outscored 94-16. I know they are playing up in competition but WOW!
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Baseball had another bad series at Georgia Tech loosing all 4 games. Three were stopped by the 10 run rule after 7 innings. Watching some of the games on ESPN+ was difficult. Our pitching is not up to that level of competition. One game in 6 innings we gave up 17 walks! Now we have games Tuesday at Kent, Wednesday at Pitt, and Friday begins a 3 game League series. After using so many pitchers this past weekend, I don't think we have enough pichers who can make these games any where near competitive. Not sure what the issues are. I know we lost a good pitcher to Texas A&M. Not sure about any others. Maybe playing some northern team will make things better. I sure hope so.
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This is Bertolini's eighth season. I am shocked at how bad his pitching staff is, almost certainly the worst in program history by a large margin. Sure the schedule was way too ambitious, and we shall see how these guys compete in the league. But if your so-called pitchers can't throw strikes, you are doomed regardless of the competition.
I just wonder how long we can continue to waste money on an expensive program with little return. I love baseball but this is ridiculous.
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He will be fired at end of season mark my word. Better baseball coaches out there.
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I’m not saying keep him or let him go either way. But I am saying we seldom do any better than what we have have done this year and the first half of the season. And I can say he has contacts when if we ever had games of this stat or so many of them and one season?
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Today's YSU Baseball final score:
Kent State 27
YSU 0
Wow! Yes, baseball not football.
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There are two possible courses of action here.
First, show this clown the door and try, again, to hire a real baseball coach.
Second, extinguish baseball and add soccer. That would be an abomination but Horizon League rules require the men's programs to play either baseball or soccer along with basketball.
There would be some advantages to choosing soccer: no need to rent an outside facility, vastly less expensive equipment costs, smaller rosters easily filled with the large supply of fourth-rate high school athletes who play this game in the Mahoning Valley, and the termination of embarrassment (nobody would give a rat's butt if a male soccer team lost every game that they played.)
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Baseball won today at Pitt 7 - 6 in 10 innings! First win of the year after 14 or more losses. And not too many walks like in most other games. Maybe we have a few pitchers who can throw strikes and get some people out. The defense is adequate although there are many stollen bases. But the walks and then the hits are really out of line for too many of our pitchers.
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Baseball won again 4 - 2, against Purdue Fort Wayne. Only 4 walks and the starting pitcher, Jacob Gehring, went 8 strong innings giving up 4 hits and 3 walks. That kind of pitching gives you a chance to win. That is 2 in a row after starting 0 - 15!
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Not doubt, they can only go u from here!
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Thanks for the updates on the team
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We lost the second game of the Fort Wayne series, 13-3, and the third game, 18-5. And like us, Fort Wayne is considered a bottom feeder in this six team league. Prepare for two more months of embarrassing results.
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The Bad News Penguins
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This weekend started good with a 4 - 2 win on Friday. Usually each team uses their top pitcher and we win.
Game on Saturday. Usually your 2nd best pitcher and we lose by 10 run rule after 7 innings 13 - 3! They got 19 hits and 1 walk to our 4 hits and 3 walks.
Sunday with the next pitcher and again we lose by a 10 run rule after 8 innings 18 - 5. They got 16 hits and 10 walks and we get 7 hits and 6 walks!
It sure looks like we are over matched. The pitching is especially weak, the hitting not that great, and the defense average at best. For sure we need better players if we are to compete. There is the portal, recruiting, the off campus facility, the budget, coaching, etc. I sure don't know the inside of the program to know what is the issue, but this is embarrassing.
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Weekend summary against Oakland. Win on Friday 3 - 2. Jacob Gehring again had a strong outing with 7 innings and 2 relievers. Allow 5 hits, 4 walks, and 1 hit batter.
Double hitter on Sunday. Both blowout losses by 10 run rule, one 6 innings and a 2nd needed a few batters in the 7th to get to the 10 run rule. First game 14 - 1. They had only 7 hits but had 10 walks and 4 hit batters along with 5 of our errors. Second game 13 - 3. They had 13 hits, 8 walks and 3 hit batters along with 3 errors for us.
It looks like we only have a chance with our top pitcher, Jacob Gehring. Trouble beyond that and we don't score many runs and make more than a few errors.
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If u look at the 3 game series we are only competitive in the first game. The same can be said for last year too. Clearly, there's a coaching issue or maybe more so a recruiting issue. Doesn't appear that the roster has D1 talent.
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Today at Toledo loss 19 - 6. Pitching a continuing problem. Used 10 pitchers in 8 innings. Gave up 13 hits, 10 walks, 5 hit batters, and 2 errors.
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Weekend update on 3 game weekend series against Northern Kentucky who leads the Horizon League. Lost all three games, but at least the scores were not terrible.
Game 1 on Thursday not using our top pitcher, Jacob Gehring, losing 4 - 2. Northern Kentucky has 6 hits, 8 walks, and no hit batters. We had the same 6 hits, with 1 walk and 1 hit batter.
Game 2 on Friday lose 8 - 7 in 10 innings. Jacob Gehring starts and at one point we lead 6 - 3. After he is gone, pitching again fails us and they get 11 hits, 8 walks, and 3 hit batters.
Game 3 on Friday lose 8 - 4. They have 9 hits, 10 walks, no hit batters, to go along with 3 errors by us. We had 8 hits and 1 walk.
Pitching is really hurting us among other issues of defense and lack of hitting.
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I don't think anyone saw this coming. YSU Baseball has won four games in the Horizon League tournament and they have advanced to Championship Saturday. YSU will need to win two games tomorrow vs. Northern Kentucky to win the Horizon League Championship! YSU knocked out the #1 seed Wright State Raiders tonight 6-3, a team they lost all seven previous games against this season.
Congratulations to these guys on pulling together this Cinderella run. Hopefully they got enough magic left tomorrow to win it all!
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Go Guins!!!!
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Our catcher was thrown out of the first game for using tobacco products. He was forced to sit out game 2 due to being ejected in game 1! Anyone know what he did and how he was caught? Manager ejected from game 1, but managed game 2.
Perez was the star of the win yesterday and today pitched 2 1/3 innings to finish today's 2nd game. Great performance by our senior pitcher.
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Probably Chewing Tabacco is my best guess
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In conference only games we finished last in hitting and fielding and next to last in pitching. Yet this team has reached the championship round, something that Calhoun's basketball players never came close to achieving. Go figure.
What makes today an insurmountable challenge is the fact that Northern Kentucky, 2nd seeded and staying in the winner's bracket, has only played two games. We have endured five games in three days. The pitchers have given an heroic effort, but we now have very little available.
Nevertheless, at a time when college sports are again being polluted by big money, we can all be very proud of the "old college try" that these guys have performed this week.
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You might recall we did this not too long ago; I think it was 2014. made the NCAA Division I baseball tournament. We also won the regular season HL once or twice but were not selected to the NCAA tournament. We really can only get in the NCAA's by winning the HL tourney. If we could win at least one series against a power conference team and go at least .500 against the rest of the power teams on our schedule, we would stand a good chance to get selected to the NCAA's without winning the HL Tourney.
We are in the loser's bracket, so we will have to win twice today. I do think the NCAA makes pitching allowances for tournaments. Does not mean there is "anything left in the guy's arm though".
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Well, it’s over. Seven run fourth inning the Norris are completely in command. 8-2
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Pathetic effort by the bullpen! No support for the starter at all!
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Pathetic effort by the bullpen! No support for the starter at all!
In their defense, they already had to pitch quite a bit the past few games just to get us to this point.
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A record of 16-44 and a lot of money spent. I think a new voice is in order.
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I agree Campbell should be let go.
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I only follow Men's basketball and football but what a mess the baseball program is becoming under Campbell. Wouldn't you all agree?
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I thought Campbell coached softball!
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Cambell is the softball coach. The baseball coach is Dan Bertolini. Since I do not know what resources YSU gives him compared to the other programs in the league, it is hard to decide on his fate. No doubt our tallent level is not up to the top teams. Also with NIL and transfer rules, if the coach does not adapt, it could be trouble. At this point the baseball program needs a change. Need to depend on Ron Strollo since he knows the facts of the situation and I sure do not.
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Cambell is the softball coach. The baseball coach is Dan Bertolini. Since I do not know what resources YSU gives him compared to the other programs in the league, it is hard to decide on his fate. No doubt our tallent level is not up to the top teams. Also with NIL and transfer rules, if the coach does not adapt, it could be trouble. At this point the baseball program needs a change. Need to depend on Ron Strollo since he knows the facts of the situation and I sure do not.
Here is the problem that will never go away. At Northern Kentucky and Wright State, baseball is the #2 men's sport and is undoubtedly financed accordingly. For us baseball is at best our #4 priority, behind track and field (and rightly so.) It would seem logical to assume that baseball is under-financed. In that case, perhaps we could do no better than Bertolini. But if resources are approximately equal, then the coach should go. As you note, only Strollo knows that information.
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There are lots of things that go into this. However, the biggest thing to know is that a few people stood up for the baseball team when it look like YSU was going to drop baseball the same year as Cleveland state and one of the other schools that dropped it I forget. So there’s definitely a financial situation involved here. Baseball is equivalency sport, so Bertolini can really distribute the scholarships (if there are any) as he sees fit.
The one thing that should be noted here is that FCS football is also an equivalency sport. So you can imagine that football alone has as many scholarships as all of our other men’s equivalency sports combined. But this is a football school . and with the most recent focus on women’s sports, one can imagine there’s been nothing going into baseball financially.
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There are lots of things that go into this. However, the biggest thing to know is that a few people stood up for the baseball team when it look like YSU was going to drop baseball the same year as Cleveland state and one of the other schools that dropped it I forget. So there’s definitely a financial situation involved here. Baseball is equivalency sport, so Bertolini can really distribute the scholarships (if there are any) as he sees fit.
The one thing that should be noted here is that FCS football is also an equivalency sport. So you can imagine that football alone has as many scholarships as all of our other men’s equivalency sports combined. But this is a football school . and with the most recent focus on women’s sports, one can imagine there’s been nothing going into baseball financially.
I could be wrong… I thought U of Akron dropped baseball the same time as CSU.
I recall that a few Akron players transferred to YSU that year.
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Akron dropped Mens Golf and a quite a few other sports. Based on what I read CSU will be lucky if they have an Athletic Department in 5 years.
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Wick is right on the money as usual. Until we know what is our baseball budget is it is tough to make comparisons. I’m just glad that we still have baseball in our budget. With the challenging landscape of college sports, to still have football, men’s and women basketball, track and field, baseball and softball is a credit to the university. I wish we would we competitive year in and year out in all our sports, but at least year round I can find a sport to root for.
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Akron dropped baseball a few year ago along with men's golf. They have since brought baseball back and even had a donner who financed ASTRO turf on their field.
All the local colleges are in trouble financially. Not enough high school graduates to keep enrollment up to support many low enrollment majors and athletics. Cleveland State is setting aside millions for faculty by outs as they cut low enrollment programs. We have also cut some programs trying to avert financial problems. There are many issues and I feel we are fortunate to have the sports we have in the current financial reality.
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Ironically, for Akron Kent put major effort into both golf and baseball. Although their baseball team has not been so good since they lost that last coach, he took them to the college World Series and boom he was gone, but they’re still always very good. You would think schools like Youngstown and Akron would take advantage of the recruiting ability because of Kent. I mean Kent cannot afford to recruit all of the top baseball players in the area and I’m told, although I’ve never been there, that Kent’s New Golf facility is pretty impressive. Has anybody out there seen it?
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Website does not have baseball coaches listed anymore. Probably being let go or resigned.
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Regardless of the budget, Strollo doesn't have a choice but to move on from the current staff. I might be off a game or two but the teams record for the last three years is like 56 wins and 116 losses. Thats roughly a .300 winning percentage. I''m sure the budget isn't good but the amount of money that is required for travel and meals has to be significant. I'm sure assistant coaching salaries are peanuts and likely a big issue attracting talent.