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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 28, 2016, 09:04:09 PM »

Wells does in fact have a shoulder injury and there are fears that it could be worse then just soreness and or a pull. There is know need for Hunter to play against Duquesne..None!! If Ricky didn't need to gain experience  for the upcoming season I would just sit him as well to guard against injury and let Hosick and Mays get the job done. Great article today by Charles Grove in the paper..I like a reporter who tells it how he see's it

If that's the case, why is he throwing with the 2's? Charles Grove reported he threw a pick a couple of days ago. I would shut him down and let him heal. We are going to need everybody this year! Go Guins!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Penguins Conclude Busy Week With Game-Like Scrimmage

« on: August 23, 2016, 04:21:38 PM »

My 0.02.

What Wells lacks can't be coached.  If the team succeeds with him, it's because others have compensated for his deficiencies.  It's magical thinking to think that his fear of contact and subsequent lack of mobility, will change.  He  doesn't follow progressions because the football in his hands could lead to a hit, so it is best to dump the hot potato ASAP before things get nasty.

Lots of key players are seniors this year.  With #11 or #12 we may make a run at a national championship this year.  With #6, we'll do decent, and maybe even make a round or two in the playoffs....but not reach our potential.

So if Hunter wins, it's the guys around him, and if Davis wins it all Davis??  Really??

What chances has he had? Remember, he don't call the plays. He runs what Monty calls for him. Another thing, why are you so ready to give a new player an opportunity and not give a player that committed to YSU out of HS and has been nothing but a hard worker since he's been there a chance? Just wondering.

I see Davis in 8 games, going 8-18 for 44.4% completions and rushing 42 times for 215 with 8th best average per carry on the team.  What I said was "he as done nothing with the few chances he has had" and I stand by that.  Yes he scored a TD against NDSU; one play in 2years.  Not much to write home about.  If you think a guy that can run for less than 5 yds a carry and complete less than 45% of his passes can lead you to a national title, you should stop taking or drinking whatever you are taking or drinking.  That's what I am saying.

"why are you so ready to give a new player an opportunity and not give a player that committed to YSU out of HS and has been nothing but a hard worker since he's been there a chance?" 
You field the best team you can.  If Hosick could do the job, sure.  You want to bench Alexander because he thought he could play 1A and found he was better suited to 1AA?  That's what you are saying about Hosick.  And yes Davis works hard, but Hunter committed right out of HS and he works hard too.  So do I work hard, but I can't play QB either!  Best guy gets the job and Bo and Monty know more about football than I do, I'll trust them.  You apparently know more by watching 60 plays than either of them, so why didn't you apply for the job.  I'm sure Tressel would have hired you.  He always plays the best guys!

Not sure about the rest of your ramblings but lets take this one statement and see how true it ends up being. Go Guins!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Penguins Conclude Busy Week With Game-Like Scrimmage

« on: August 23, 2016, 12:37:37 PM »

My 0.02.

What Wells lacks can't be coached.  If the team succeeds with him, it's because others have compensated for his deficiencies.  It's magical thinking to think that his fear of contact and subsequent lack of mobility, will change.  He  doesn't follow progressions because the football in his hands could lead to a hit, so it is best to dump the hot potato ASAP before things get nasty.

Lots of key players are seniors this year.  With #11 or #12 we may make a run at a national championship this year.  With #6, we'll do decent, and maybe even make a round or two in the playoffs....but not reach our potential.

I don't see it that way.  Certainly you are right, you aren't going to make a runner out of Hunter, but that doesn't mean you can't win with him.  This business of reading through progressions is REALLY hard.  Many in the NFL still struggle with it after 3-4 years of college and 10 YEARS in the NFL!  When you are standing in the pocket, and you feel pressure, dumping the ball is usually preferential to taking a sack.  No he can't take a 3 option and sprint out, but the flip side is Davis can't stand in the pocket and deliver a consistent pass, so what do you do?  Frankly if Davis was a better runner, he may be a better option, but he is NOT a great runner, just better than Wells.  I had hoped Hosick would be the guy, but that seems to not be the case.  So many, including you, tread Davis as the second coming at QB, but he has done nothing with the few chances he’s had, and so it seems that is just wishful thinking on the fans part.

What chances has he had? Remember, he don't call the plays. He runs what Monty calls for him. Another thing, why are you so ready to give a new player an opportunity and not give a player that committed to YSU out of HS and has been nothing but a hard worker since he's been there a chance? Just wondering.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 21, 2016, 09:13:00 PM »

To put things in context, stats from the scrimmage the week before:

"In the scrimmage portion of the workout (no red zone stats included), Davis was 3-of-4 for 80 yards and a touchdown, Wells was 4-of-10 for 46 yards while Mays was 4-of-8 for 48 yards and a score"

http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/scrimmage-recap-august13

Not sure why Trent's #s are not included, but the article suggests he, like Davis, had a good day. Wells only QB without a score and also with the least yardage and lowest completion %.

In other news, Jerry Slocum is still the MBB HC.  I'm sure this year will be different.

I'm not sure why they weren't either but I was there for the scrimmage and he didn't have a good day. Trent was 1 of 6 passing and had a long TD run that would have been a sack if the QB's had been live. I'm not saying he can't play, just telling you what i saw that day.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 19, 2016, 12:49:32 PM »

Fan, This is not the case and I even stated that over the winter. I know the last thing Monty wanted to do was jump on a plane and go west and bring in another qb because I know what Mays is about plus he is mobile . Bo has a love affair with running quarterbacks and has had one his entire coaching career. It's the Bo show around here and Bo was familiar with Trent from his time at Nebraska and didn't even really look at anyone else . Bo will expect Trent to see the field..What's shane going to say No coach!!

Good post Fever. I understand what you are saying. Factor in that coach M likes to break things up with some option (even if it is simple pitch and run) ...perhaps Hosick is the best at this.

I was just wondering, have you guys seen Trent play at all?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 17, 2016, 11:28:05 AM »

I don’t doubt Ricky Davis has improved, but he was a strong armed guy with terrible accuracy last year

Time to say goodnight to that myth. 

Behold the 2015 MVFC passing efficiency ratings:

http://www.mvc.org/football/stats/ind-all.pdf

PASS EFFICIENCY Cl G Comp-Att-Int Yds TD Eff.

6. Davis, Ricky-YSU So 9 8-18-0 142 1 129.0

8. Wells, Hunter-YSU So 11 159-291-7 1975 13 121.6

Passing efficiency does not subdivide INTs into pick 6's and non-pick 6s.  If it did, Well's passing efficiency would be much worse.

So I said Davis has a strong arm but terrible accuracy, and you quote last season's stat:
Davis 44% completion rate
Wells 54% completion rate
Now don't get me wrong, 54% is not good enough for Wells, but 44% is a joke.  This is compounded by Ricky's own words, when he was in the game, it was going to be a run.  Should have been easy to complete at least a few passes.  You guys should fork over the money, buy tickets and go watch some of these games.  I also point out the fact that Davis was a better runner than Wells, (maybe I am too!) but he is NOT a dramatic playmaker with his legs either.  He is at best 3 string, maybe 4th.  Everybody likes the backup.  By mid season, we won't hear Davis at all, you will all be saying "if only they would play Hosick."   I do expect Hunter to lead us to the playoffs this season.  We'll see, but your "all in with Ricky" has no factual basis for support

Why look only at completions? That's only one measure of a QB. Don't yardage, TD's, and interceptions also matter, maybe even moreso?  The passing efficiency rating factors in all of those things.

YOU'RE the one that quoted the stats, now you don't want me to point out obvious?  Yes, there are other things than completion percentage, but it's still the very best way to measure accuracy and Ricky doesn't have it.  I'm not pro-Hunter or anti-Ricky, but all this "we want Ricky" retoric on this blog is 100% emotion and has nothing to do with fooball ability.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but it doesn't seem as though the coaches agree...

Charles Grove ‏@CgroveVindy  · 42m42 minutes ago 

Davis ended up getting 8 snaps with the first team opposed to Hunter's 6. Hosick got 7 snaps with 2nd team. #YSU @vindicator

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 14, 2016, 05:28:20 PM »

Mayor, that could mean something it's just really hard to say. It was my understanding Mays worked with the 1's and drove the length of the field. Chief, it's very hard to argue your point and I think most people on here would agree with you. Our offensive line is much improved. With the exception of W.V. we will not see a pass rush like ours the entire season and our quarterbacks will have more time to throw then last year. Fan makes a valid point, if the receivers step up Wells will more then likely be the #1. Why on Earth would you risk injuries to our mobile quarterbacks in the weenie games when we need them the most starting with S.D. and then the rest of the conference? On the flip side I do understand the importance of getting this issue behind the team and moving forward.  Running quarterbacks do and will get hurt, plus Wells has the most game experience. The last thing you want is either Hosick, Davis or Mays getting shell shocked in Morgantown to start the game. All 4 will see plenty of time before S.D. know need to panic early on

Mays is a very good player in my opinion but yesterday he was only with the 2's and was helped down the field by penalties on the drive, but he threw a very nice ball on the TD.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 14, 2016, 09:25:18 AM »

What I like the most about all 4 of our quarterbacks is they all have class with know baggage to speak of..that's very hard to find these days. Ricky in my opinion is the most improved out of the 4. I'm going to stop short of predicting a starter for week 1 because I'm not with them everyday like the coaches are. Keep in mind Ricky only attempted 4 passes yesterday while completing 3 and was not really giving the option to throw last season. Mays had twice as many attempts yesterday. It's really hard to get a true read with the offense in these scrimmages because the defense will always have the upper hand. Specific quarterback's have been working specific drills for game situations all through camp that what leads me to believe a 2 system quarterback is in place

This is true but Mays never went with the ones at all and Ricky was the only QB to not go with the two's. Do you think that means anything?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Countdown to 2016 FB Season!

« on: August 13, 2016, 11:24:28 PM »

I think Davis will be the starter week 1

After the offense struggled early, Shane brought all the QB's together on the sideline while the KO team was on the field, and I heard a large group of players on the sidelines say "we need to give this thing to Ricky and go". Ricky didn't hear them but he went out next series and drove the team down for the TD. Below are the tweets and thoughts of all the QB's from the Vindy reporter on the sideline Charles Grove...

At #YSU's scrimmage, Hunter Wells' first drive ends in a punt after getting just past midfield. @YSUsports @vindicator
Trent Hosick's drive ends in 3 and out while Ricky Davis gets a 1st with his feet before his drive fizzles. #YSU @vindicator
Hunter Wells throws high on 3rd and 8 and it's another 3 and out. Offense getting frustrated. #YSU @vindicator
Mays at QB does no better. He gets sacked on 3rd and long. Offense looks confused. #YSU @vindicator
#YSU offense got a few 1sts with Davis. One on a nice pass to Townsend. @vindicator
Mays gets a TD after a long drive that Pelini kept moving forward after a couple of penalties. Raised offenses spirits at least. @vindicator
Hosick just took an option keeper up the middle virtually untouched for a 75 yard TD. @vindicator #YSU
Hosick less effective his next drive. Him and Scott weren't on the same page on 3rd down and drive sputters out. #YSU @vindicator
Wells takes a sack on 3rd and very long. Offense hasn't done much with him at the helm today. #YSU @vindicator
#YSU now working on special teams, punt and kickoff returns. @vindicator
Davis takes 1st team offense down field and hits Patterson from about 35 yards for a TD. Best drive of the day by far. #YSU @vindicator
Tevin McCaster was the tailback the entire drive and had a nice catch in the flat where he broke 2 defenders as well. #YSU @vindicator
Wells leads 1st team offense into the redzone against 2nd defense but drive stalls and #YSU takes a FG. @vindicator
Tevin McCaster looked outstanding today. He's 3rd on running back depth chart. Plenty of depth for #YSU @vindicator @YSUsports

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Ricky & Roth On Rookery Radio

« on: April 27, 2016, 11:26:45 AM »

Final show today with BP calling in.  Sounds like a FBS tackle may transfer here...welcome news.  It was very entertaining and informative show, sorry to see it end.

I agree. I enjoyed the show and it was nice to hear about the team from the players prospective. Bo seems like he has the backing of the players and it is nice to see that he supports them in things they do off the field as well. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Spring Football Practice Updates

« on: March 21, 2016, 09:27:08 AM »

Mayor I wasn't there on Saturday, but that's really good news. Like Bo said position's are not won and lost in a day or two. The more competition the better. Ricky is a good athlete and excellent kid..and I wish him the best

Thank you. I hope they all do well because that will mean YSU did well. I would like for Ricky to get his chance on the field though. If he does the job, fine. If he doesn't, fine. I think he should be given a chance so we don't have to hear he can do this or he can't do this from people's opinion. Let us see what he can or can't do. We have seen Hunter, good and bad (mostly good), but let's see some Ricky throwing and running. Love YSU either way. Go Penguins!!

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Spring Football Practice Updates

« on: March 20, 2016, 11:06:17 PM »

Quarterbacks- My thoughts after taking in two practices. What really surprised me the most was the increased weight that Hunter put on. His footwork and overall quickness is better then a season ago and I honestly did not expect that. He has definitely brought his "A" game into spring ball and seems to be embracing this challenge. His throwing ability from the pocket is very impressive. Hosick has improved from day one untill now and that's a really good sign. He seemed to struggle the most throwing from the pocket. He had a difficult time finding throwing lanes and reading coverages from the pocket. He can definitely throw outside of the pocket on the run and they are expanding their playbook to fit that strength of run/pass option. To this point Ricky has been struggling and could be coming to grips of being the third string. I just hope that Bo and Shane are  on the same page, but I think they share different beliefs..For  now I have Wells (1) Hosick(2) Davis (3)..We will find out much more when the bullets start flying

Davis was the only QB to drive the team down and score Saturday during the down-distance portion of practice, both throwing and running to help his team.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Ricky & Roth On Rookery Radio

« on: March 16, 2016, 09:01:48 AM »

Great show today guys!! You two are good together. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Ricky & Roth On Rookery Radio

« on: March 02, 2016, 08:58:59 AM »

Hate to be this dumb, but what station?

http://www.rookeryradio.com/

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Ricky & Roth On Rookery Radio

« on: March 02, 2016, 08:51:24 AM »

Is there a link to this?  When does this take place?

Every Wednesday morning from 8 to 9 am. (They are off next week for Spring Break but will return in two weeks.)