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Title: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: IAA Fan on October 15, 2013, 01:50:39 PM
We need to stay focused & not slip.


Let's go guins and secure this victory!!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Wick250 on October 15, 2013, 03:16:40 PM
IAA Fan, nice try and, as you note, we definitely need to stay focused.  But Western Illinois is a bad football team.  Of course that has not stopped us from puking away a critical game (see Missouri State in 2011.)  What we must have here is a crisp, professional performance from all three aspects of our team.  Play hard and well into the third quarter and then get plenty of reps from our backups.  If we can do that, more fans might finally determine that Wolford has at last established his program.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 15, 2013, 03:37:02 PM
Fan,

Their conference stats are a better tool for comparison's sake.  It removes the inflated numbers they put up against a 1-5 D2 team, and a terrible 1-5 Hampton.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Spiderlegs on October 15, 2013, 06:38:22 PM
A fair defense but not great.  Now that the YSU offense has learned to adjust over the course of the game, WIU will have problems keeping pace with YSU's multiple weapons.  They stop the rush (and it's hard for me to believe that they are that good), then we pass. Defensively, YSU is good at handling the run, and WIU isn't that good at passing, so our DBs may actually have a feast. Only team YSU can lose to this Saturday is itself. I really hope YSU uses the game to fix some of its problem areas before the bigger games come down the road.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ItalianPenguin on October 15, 2013, 07:46:22 PM
YSU has opened as a 26 point favorite
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 15, 2013, 08:25:26 PM
Another W. Wont be as easy as Illinois St but still a win for the guins.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: paladin on October 15, 2013, 08:33:05 PM
YSU 42-17. Won't be much of a game.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 15, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
Would like to see the defense hold them under 20 points. I'll be watching our defense very closely. Seems as though we struggle on the first drive of each game. Need to be ready from the first second of the game.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: HLecter on October 16, 2013, 01:18:25 PM
Stop with the PAZZ stuff already, you are driving me NUTZ ;D
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Pita on October 16, 2013, 07:27:38 PM
Me alzo!!!!!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 16, 2013, 08:48:52 PM
41-14 good guys
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: guinpen on October 16, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
O not as sharp as last week, D about the same. 31-14 guins.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 17, 2013, 08:05:26 AM
45 - 21 Guins
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: IAA Fan on October 17, 2013, 08:24:23 AM
Fan,

Their conference stats are a better tool for comparison's sake.  It removes the inflated numbers they put up against a 1-5 D2 team, and a terrible 1-5 Hampton.

Well maybe SDSU had a bad game, but I see 31 rushing attempts by the JackRabbits against the Necks for a total of 109-yards. I see that SDSU has one rush for an 86-yard TD. So that tells me that WIU held SDSU to 23-yards on 30 attempts. SDSU only managed 3 rushing 1st-downs. We need to be ready for this team. Add two more INTs, and that brings WIU's total to 9.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: DavedS on October 17, 2013, 10:01:48 AM
Hope YSU keeps the pedal to the floor the entire game like they did with ILS.Western was leading Minnesota 12-7 till late in the 3rd QTR.We definitely don't need another game like the Missouri State disaster of 2011.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: penguinpower on October 17, 2013, 10:12:46 AM
Hope YSU keeps the pedal to the floor the entire game like they did with ILS.Western was leading Minnesota 12-7 till late in the 3rd QTR.We definitely don't need another game like the Missouri State disaster of 2011.

Right.  this is a trap game, especially after coming off of such a great performance.  It is usually impossible to duplicate something like that.  They need to stay focused and play harder in order to maintain that level.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysuguins4 on October 17, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Any info on ticket sales?  Would be great to see a big crowd, but weather is iffy and Buckeyes play at 3:30.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: OleYSUfan on October 17, 2013, 06:27:12 PM
Let's hope for good weather and a good turnout; the Ohio State game is at 3:30 and it will be a
conflict with some fans.

The team seems to be jelling, but the defense must continue to step up and prevent the passing  plays over the middle. I have not heard the status of Ruiz, if he is not playing this probably will slow are running game.

We can't let down and have too many mistakes. I still believe we will prevail.

YSU 38  W.Ill  21

Go Penguins!!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 17, 2013, 09:10:25 PM
YSU 38
WIU 17

Key for me is holding them to under 20 points. That will be a sign the defense is improving. Can't let any big pass plays like ILSU and Dayton.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysuindy on October 18, 2013, 01:53:31 PM
Apparently some travel issues for the Leathernecks - glad they are safe.

NEWS3 - wiutv ‏@news3wiu 43m
@WIUfootball lost altitude and had oxygen masks deploy on their flight to Youngstown, Ohio but landed safe and sound - NH

Garrett Knock ‏@G_baby_6 51m
Well that flight to youngstown was interesting had the oxygen masks deploy half way through the flight #goodtobeontheground #safe #happybday

WIU Leathernecks ‏@WIUAthletics 1h
Had issue with cabin pressure on our charter, masks came down, thankfully everyone ok. #Leathernecks landed safely in Youngstown

had to be a little scary - see below

https://twitter.com/DonWon_Chungong/status/391242691163742208/photo/1
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 01:44:23 AM
Not sure why they would fly to begin with
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysuindy on October 19, 2013, 07:37:26 AM
Not sure why they would fly to begin with

really?

YSU flies to every road game this year except Indiana State.

you think WIU would bus more than 10 hours.

bus more than ten hours?  Yeah that's a good way to prepare for a game.

Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: penguinpower on October 19, 2013, 07:51:36 AM
Not sure why they would fly to begin with

This is not meant as an insult, so don't take it that way but when you are old enough to go to one of these away games I recommend going to one of them.   Some of these places are way out in the middle of no where. Macomb and Carbondale are just out there.  I can't understand why people would want to go out there to school. How do they even recruit?  No offemse to them, but I wouldn't be caught dead with a freaking Saluki logo on my person.  Hell, I had to look it up the first time I saw it. I have a ton of respect for their program. They are competitive in everything. Gayle Sayers did a fine job with their athletic program (not sure if he is still there) but somehow they recuit kids to play in the middle of nowhere with some ugly mascot.

My point is that they are so remote that if they broke down on the road they would miss the game. Flying is probably the lowest risk and takes away the travel time.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
Not sure why they would fly to begin with

really?

YSU flies to every road game this year except Indiana State.

you think WIU would bus more than 10 hours.

bus more than ten hours?  Yeah that's a good way to prepare for a game.


you know its unheard of for teams to fly under the FBS level right?
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 19, 2013, 11:30:48 AM
Here we go again....
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 19, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
Here we go again....
Haha he is a treat!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 03:08:32 PM
Here we go again....
Haha he is a treat!

Dont worry, much like you were banned on JJHuddle i have no doubts your personal attacks will get you banned here as well
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 04:27:17 PM
Martin Ruiz is going to be special
60 yard TD run untouched
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 05:14:24 PM
Offense looks like crap again

Missou State up 35-21 with 3 minutes left, SDSU could go to 4-4

NDSU scored 21 unanswered to go up 21-0 with 5 min left in 3rd

Illinois State beat Indiana St 55-14
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
99 yard drive  >:(
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: penguinpower on October 19, 2013, 06:06:57 PM
Offense looks like crap again

Missou State up 35-21 with 3 minutes left, SDSU could go to 4-4

NDSU scored 21 unanswered to go up 21-0 with 5 min left in 3rd

Illinois State beat Indiana St 55-14

Offense does look like crap again. Wtf?
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 06:10:27 PM
Hess 23 passing yards at halftime  >:(
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 19, 2013, 07:10:14 PM
Hess was off today but Ruiz carried us literally to this victory. Bad weather, but a W is a W. and I'll take it. Now let's get rested up in the bye week and take care of business the rest of the way!!!! Btw SDSU losing again today.... Overrated a little too much?
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: penguinpower on October 19, 2013, 07:53:31 PM
We played like crap today. The only thing that save our azz is the special teams. Those two punts that pinned them back on the 1 ft line were outstanding!  Special teams gets the game ball because they won the game for us.

We had less than 50 yards passing for the game. You've got to be kidding me. How could our Senior QB regress like this?  The OL pass protection wasn't very good, but hess was thowing off his back foot. And he should know better at this point in his career. He aslo looked confused at times.

How many 3rd and long plays did we give up on defense? We looked pretty bad in pass defense at times. Why do we play this prevent defense?  I just dint get it.


That team kicked our azz up and down the field. We were fortunate to win the points stat.

Jeeze. It is like we didn't prepare well at all. We were luck they missed that chip shot FG. Lucky. Why can't Wolford's teams just continually improve?  Why can't we just consistently put someone away like last week?

11 first downs. 3 of them at half time. Wtf?
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: AFGuin on October 19, 2013, 08:09:51 PM
Uh, 40 yards is a chip shot? what?
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: letsgoguins on October 19, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
South Dakota stuns UNI 38-31 in 2OT.

SDSU and UNI are out of the MVFC title race! SDSU out of the playoff hunt.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Wick250 on October 19, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
Before today, South Dakota had failed to score more than 17 points in any game, although their defense was quite good.  After our performance today, at least now we will not take them lightly in two weeks.  So UNI goes from beating Iowa State and then almost beating NDSU on the road to 0-3 and last in the conference.  That was capped off by blowing a 28-7 lead to a previously anemic offensive team.  Could not happen to a finer group of fans.

As perturbed as we are by our showing today, how would you like to be a Villanova fan tonight?  According to the report from the Sports Network, they were tied at 21 with New Hampshire in the fourth quarter.  They then scored with 1:04 left in the game, only to yield a touchdown with 14 second left.  Then they allowed New Hampshire to run in the conversion.  Don't know if it was a fake or happened from a regular set.

So we should be feeling better than at least two FCS contenders this evening.  It just reminds us that there are worse things than an ugly win.

Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: OleYSUfan on October 19, 2013, 10:03:00 PM
Hats off to the brave fans who attended the YSU-W.Illinois game in the windy, rainy weather. The game was like the weather UGLY!!

Kurt Hess was pathetic, but Martin Ruiz was spectacular!! I noticed W. Illinois got away with several holding calls which if called would of made our defense look a little better. Our defense still can't stop the 3rd down passing plays. We make every quarterback in the league look like great QBs.

The good side - what would we do without Ruiz? He looked great! So did Liste with his punts and kickoffs. Nate Adams made a great catch to seal the game.(the ball did touch the ground and should have been incomplete, but I will take it).

Well: A WIN is a WIN don't matter how ugly, I'll take it!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: guinpen on October 19, 2013, 10:12:09 PM
Before today, South Dakota had failed to score more than 17 points in any game, although their defense was quite good.  After our performance today, at least now we will not take them lightly in two weeks.  So UNI goes from beating Iowa State and then almost beating NDSU on the road to 0-3 and last in the conference.  That was capped off by blowing a 28-7 lead to a previously anemic offensive team.  Could not happen to a finer group of fans.


Ha Ha HA, I agreed about their fans!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: guinpen on October 19, 2013, 10:17:31 PM
It may be an understatement but man it looked like a different offense today, but they did what they had to do and got the job done. The defense let them off the hook after two great punts around the 1, not happy with the 99 yard drive, buuuut they also got the job done. It is one thing to win when all cylinders are clicking but it is also very important to wins games like we did today.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 19, 2013, 11:06:18 PM
Hess always sucks in the rain for some reason. Always plays bad. Wolf wanted to run and that's exactly what they did. Ugly but we will all take the W
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Dmorton on October 19, 2013, 11:32:26 PM
Great!  We won, but we can not being missing tackles like we did today!  That will bite us big time against the better teams. 
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ValleyTalk on October 19, 2013, 11:48:32 PM
Held a team to 14 points. Although they beat us in the stats game, our defense made some big plays when they had to. Over the past three years, that was a game we would have lost. However, we persevered and found a way to win.

GO YSU!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 20, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
Held a team to 14 points. Although they beat us in the stats game, our defense made some big plays when they had to. Over the past three years, that was a game we would have lost. However, we persevered and found a way to win.

GO YSU!

Amen
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Wick250 on October 20, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
IAA Fan,

This is your site and, obviously, you can do whatever you please.  But I urge you to listen to Indy, one of our most respected posters, and remove the subject that has caused the deterioration of this forum.  Over the weekend, this kid has launched profanity-laced tirades against posters who had the audacity to correct his misinformation.  This must stop. >:(  I suppose that adult members can brush off these silly posts as comic relief, but no responsible parent will allow children to come here and deal with this type of language.  Applying a language filter is not the answer; removing the sole source of the problem is the answer.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: kforbs126 on October 20, 2013, 12:07:33 PM
Thankfully got to watch the game on ESPN3.  We didn't look great but we did step up when we had to and great teams do that.  We may not be NDSU but I think we are top tier.  Look at all the top tier teams in the FBS who struggled this week, it happens.  The weather was crappy and that always hinders a game.  But we ran the ball really really well.  It was crazy the amount of holes there were to run in and big runs.  I really like Ruiz. The kid is fast and hits holes quickly.  He has a great future here. 

Also on a side note, I don't post here much but visit often but I do like these message boards.  As an alumni and someone who grew up going to every single YSU game in the late 80's and 90's, rain, snow, cold didn't stop us.  I was a bit disappointed in the crowd.  It looked like maybe a few hundred people in the stands.  Hopefully that will change.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Petey on October 20, 2013, 12:08:32 PM
Have to agree with others. Come here to read about the YSU football, not this drivel. Open debate is great. This kid does not get it.


GOOOOOOOOOO  GUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: kforbs126 on October 20, 2013, 12:15:01 PM
Have to agree with others. Come here to read about the YSU football, not this drivel. Open debate is great. This kid does not get it.


GOOOOOOOOOO  GUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ditto on this, keep it clean, we are all here for the same reason and the personal bashing and profanity laced rants only hurt this site.
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: ysufan0505 on October 20, 2013, 01:45:15 PM
Ruiz will be better than Cook when it's all said and done. He only needs 29 yards to break the single season rushing record for a freshman at YSU. Wow
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: Spiderlegs on October 20, 2013, 03:21:15 PM
I'm not buying Wolford's post game comments.  He's blaming Hess's failure to connect to open receivers on the receiver being in the wrong place, even though Hess was looking right at the receiver when he threw. These weren't timing patterns, and unlike the Dayton game, the receivers were also looking at Hess. Wolford blamed the failure to tackle WIU's Baker was because Baker is so short, not because YSU was trying to tackle him with their arms rather than use their whole bodies.  This concerns me because of Wolford's tendency to deny problems when they exist, like he did in last October's 0-4 run. 

(My theory: Hess's hands were so cold that he lost control of the ball when passing, especially in the second half after the rain stopped.  Maybe he should have one of those handwarmer pouches on cold days.)

Also, I am puzzled why WIU so easily passed up the middle on third down. Seems like there is a mixed assignment there, either an LB or a DB who comes on the field just for 3rd down.  This problem has been occurring all season--it should be fixed by now.

DBs keep getting better. They need some help from the front line--allowing the opposing quarterback to plant his feet before throwing can rip apart the best of secondaries.

Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: IAA Fan on October 20, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
Some good points in there spider. It was really embarrassing to watch how openly confused our defense was. Fans all around me noticed it & commented. We were always in a prevent, afraid to blitz. Hess had an ugly day, but I still say it starts with the lack of a power run game. Once Hess was having issues, we need to drain clock. Also, when WIU went to a three-back set it was embarrassing to see how confused we became on D. I mean it was only the staple set of American football for almost 100-years. Wolf needs to run a power formation & let the defense get some practice. When a game gets ugly, and this one rates a 10.5 on a 10-foot ugly meter, someone needs to take control. I applaud several people on defense that finally got down low and tackled.

This being said, it had to happen & I am glad we came out of this with a "W".
Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: OleYSUfan on October 20, 2013, 04:31:49 PM
Spiderlegs: that was a good post! I see it pretty much the same. Hess was never set up properly and missed his target time after time. While the W. Illinois QB had no problem throwing over the middle time after time.

There were some nice plays by the offensive line giving Ruiz holes and he did the rest. The special teams again are vastly improved.

I will take the win and be happy!

Title: Re: Guins vs. Leathernecks
Post by: penguinpower on October 20, 2013, 05:05:38 PM
Spier you nailed it