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Title: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: pittsburghpenguin on July 25, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
Grant Gonya Kicker from Hudson,Oh
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on July 25, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
We're going to need a kicker in a couple.   9-9 inside 45 yds and 17 straight (an Ohio HS record)
Has limited in range because that kind of accuracy should get you and OSU offer.  For me, I'll take everything inside 45 and he has a more than a year before getting to YSU, so he can work on leg strength.
Looks like good prospect.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 25, 2017, 12:52:20 PM
We've had a couple commits but I forgot to post them. Waiting until the season starts.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on July 28, 2017, 12:33:31 PM
Add Jayden Cunningham. 6-2, 185 QB from University School up in cleveland. Dual threat QB.


http://www.hudl.com/profile/3994157/jayden-cunningham
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Wick250 on July 28, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
There is an article about Cunningham and more video on the Plain Dealer website.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on July 31, 2017, 09:58:44 AM
QB #2 ought to bring his buddy WR #3 with him.
Cunningham tends to have a long windup throwing motion, and that will have to be corrected, but athleticly he looks real solid.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: IAA Fan on August 02, 2017, 03:18:54 PM
QB #2 ought to bring his buddy WR #3 with him.
Cunningham tends to have a long windup throwing motion, and that will have to be corrected, but athleticly he looks real solid.

Good catch Go, but it does look likes he stays ahead of his receivers in deeper vertical throws. That might be how he does it.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on August 02, 2017, 09:28:37 PM
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5408869/5840e0895b3cb027b43a84e0 Picked up another tough kid from St. Ed's Defensive tackle Dontae Cilenti..I'm starting to see a trend i really like
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 03, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
Love the St. Ed's pipeline we have going!
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Wick250 on August 03, 2017, 02:30:10 PM
I agree.  Kids coming from very successful programs already understand the relationship between hard work and success.  That makes Pelini's job easier as he defines our culture. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on August 03, 2017, 03:30:35 PM
I agree.  Kids coming from very successful programs already understand the relationship between hard work and success.  That makes Pelini's job easier as he defines our culture.
Winners win.  That's why I never understood the Tebow thing.  He won in HS, won big time in Florida and won when he had a chance in Denver.  I think his religious beliefs played a bigger roll in that than will even be reported.  But I degress, the winning football kids will win here to.  Don't ignore the Cardinal Mooney pipeline as well.  We have several and they are going to help.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 03, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
I agree.  Kids coming from very successful programs already understand the relationship between hard work and success.  That makes Pelini's job easier as he defines our culture.
Winners win.  That's why I never understood the Tebow thing.  He won in HS, won big time in Florida and won when he had a chance in Denver.  I think his religious beliefs played a bigger roll in that than will even be reported.  But I degress, the winning football kids will win here to.  Don't ignore the Cardinal Mooney pipeline as well.  We have several and they are going to help.

Very much agreed.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 07, 2017, 10:25:01 PM
Another:

Aaron Ervin: 6-5, 285 OL from Springboro, OH.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: IAA Fan on August 10, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
Another:

Aaron Ervin: 6-5, 285 OL from Springboro, OH.

Interesting pick-up. This is a team that we need to be all-over & in that region that Montgomery likes to recruit from.  They have a good pair of coaches and have really become strong over the past few years in the GWOC (D1), but I noticed they have yet to advance out in the play-off. If that 285lbs is not too inflated. I wonder if we are looking at him for OT or OG? 3.68 GPA is nice to see. We will have him for the duration. Says he had 3 camp invites. Was 1st-team all Michigan at the camp. Mention in all-Midwest camp. Also went through Dayton MSR just a couple of months ago and weighed in at 258 (could be a typo, but not likely), with a power index of just under 30, which is real good.

From Midwest Elite camp final rundown:

 ... A couple offensive linemen also emerged. In the 2018 class, Trey Livingood was excellent. He played center despite playing other positions in high school and we like his potential in the middle. Luke Martin showed why he has several D1 offers as he is a strong kid with good technique. He has several D1 schools in contact. Will Christopher from Illinois (North Mac HS) had a good day as well. Charlie O'Connor had several good reps against the better defensive linemen at the camp as did Aaron Ervin and Nathan Grey both from Ohio. ...
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: The YO Show on August 10, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
I know you said not likely, but hopefully it is a typo and they transposed the 5 and 8 so it should have been 285... lol
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on August 11, 2017, 08:21:49 AM
I know you said not likely, but hopefully it is a typo and they transposed the 5 and 8 so it should have been 285... lol
The important number is 6'5"  you can't work on that in the weight room!  Some of the 300 high schoolers are a lot of fat. I'd rather have 258# of conditioned athlete and work on getting to 300-305 in the weight room that some 300 softy trying to work off the fat.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on August 20, 2017, 07:14:21 PM
Griffin Hoak, a 6-1 220 MLB from Dublin Coffman has committed. Was getting MAC looks.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: FOOTBALLFEVER on September 20, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
Really wish we could have landed Armand Dellovades brother Anthony..He recently committed to Duquesne
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 20, 2017, 11:03:20 AM
Really wish we could have landed Armand Dellovades brother Anthony..He recently committed to Duquesne


Same. But there's still time to persuade don't worry.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on September 20, 2017, 11:17:16 AM
MAC, I'm also seeing some Big 10 interest!
Found this following his soph year:

Dublin Coffman sophomore Griffin Hoak is a seek-and-destroy linebacker prospect in Ohio, and he looked good this past Monday at the Best of the Midwest combine in Indianapolis.

Hoak, who also plays tight end, is the younger brother of Kentucky freshman quarterback Gunnar Hoak.

Although the younger Hoak holds no offers to date, he is a 2018 prospect of note.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on September 20, 2017, 12:24:56 PM
Really wish we could have landed Armand Dellovades brother Anthony..He recently committed to Duquesne


Same. But there's still time to persuade don't worry.
Anthony looks just like you'd expect, having watched Armand for 2-1/2 years.  We could definitely use him.  Taller than Armand and could carry more than the current 215, this kid is better than Duquesne, so hopefully he'll come to his senses in time!  (BTW he wears 42)
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on September 29, 2017, 09:37:24 AM
Myles McHaney has committed. 6-3, 205 Hybrid Safety/OLB from Macomb, MI. Had an offer from Central Michigan. Ranked the 57th best player in the state.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on September 29, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
I know you said not likely, but hopefully it is a typo and they transposed the 5 and 8 so it should have been 285... lol
The videos look to me like the 6'5" is accurate.  I could care less about 258 or 285, as long as he's 6/5 we'll take care of the 305 needed!
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ucfpengbuck on October 15, 2017, 07:14:49 PM
Derek Hite DE/TE Piqua Ohio.  Newest commit. 


https://www.hudl.com/profile/5404187/derek-hite

Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on October 17, 2017, 11:33:44 AM
Myles McHaney has committed. 6-3, 205 Hybrid Safety/OLB from Macomb, MI. Had an offer from Central Michigan. Ranked the 57th best player in the state.
this kid looks like a player.  will be 6-3 235# LB for the quins.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on October 17, 2017, 11:38:08 AM
Derek Hite DE/TE Piqua Ohio.  Newest commit. 


https://www.hudl.com/profile/5404187/derek-hite
this kid is big and strong, but the stiffest player I ever recall seeing.  He can hardly get into a 3 point stance.  You can play DE from your feet, but you don't stay on your feet because you can't bend. I have grave doubts about Hite's ability with the athleticism we see week to week in the MVFC. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on November 04, 2017, 12:30:51 PM
Cunningham had 153 passing, 133 rushing, 5 rushing TD's and a pick 6 on defense in last night's playoff loss. Also our kicking commitment from Hudson, Gonya finished his career with the most career field goals in Ohio high school football history and 2nd most career points kicked. He's a good one.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Kandrase on November 05, 2017, 05:52:06 PM
QB #2 ought to bring his buddy WR #3 with him.
Cunningham tends to have a long windup throwing motion, and that will have to be corrected, but athleticly he looks real solid.

Good catch Go, but it does look likes he stays ahead of his receivers in deeper vertical throws. That might be how he does it.

According to scouting Ohio hes only had offers from YSU and Ashland... I’d rather see an offer or two from another FCS or D2 school.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 03, 2017, 07:28:15 PM
Another.

6-1, 265 DE DeMarko Craig from Central Catholic in Toledo. Had an offer from ISU as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 04, 2017, 09:28:58 AM
Another.

6-1, 265 DE DeMarko Craig from Central Catholic in Toledo. Had an offer from ISU as well.
I'd like to see this kid lose about 15# and move to LB. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Penguin Ice on December 04, 2017, 02:26:20 PM
Another.

6-1, 265 DE DeMarko Craig from Central Catholic in Toledo. Had an offer from ISU as well.
I'd like to see this kid lose about 15# and move to LB.

No reason for him to move to LB. first off he’s too slow and LB is looking good for the next few years
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 04, 2017, 02:52:22 PM
Another.

6-1, 265 DE DeMarko Craig from Central Catholic in Toledo. Had an offer from ISU as well.
I'd like to see this kid lose about 15# and move to LB.

No reason for him to move to LB. first off he’s too slow and LB is looking good for the next few years
lose 15# and  he would add some speed and he can play inside. He is too short for DE and too light for DT.
We lose our best LB this season and the best returner will be a senior, so lose our best LB next year also.  What does "looking good for the next few years" mean?  Mitchell looks like he is going to be solid, and Parks probably starts, but Pollard did -0- this year after coming in highly regarded.  You think solid for years and I don't even see who will start?   
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Penguin Ice on December 04, 2017, 07:04:22 PM
Another.

6-1, 265 DE DeMarko Craig from Central Catholic in Toledo. Had an offer from ISU as well.
I'd like to see this kid lose about 15# and move to LB.

No reason for him to move to LB. first off he’s too slow and LB is looking good for the next few years
lose 15# and  he would add some speed and he can play inside. He is too short for DE and too light for DT.
We lose our best LB this season and the best returner will be a senior, so lose our best LB next year also.  What does "looking good for the next few years" mean?  Mitchell looks like he is going to be solid, and Parks probably starts, but Pollard did -0- this year after coming in highly regarded.  You think solid for years and I don't even see who will start?
Mitchell will start the next 3 years, You had AD starting next year with either Newell or Posey starting ath the Will.  It’s Pollock not Pollard.  Who sat out his first year because of a major concussion and he tore his hamstring the second week of camp but was a stud on scout team when he came back and made about every tackle on kickoff along side Metzel, who is going to be good. Pollock will play behind AD this year and will have 2 years left with Mitchell and Newell.  So like I said the LB’s are good off the next 3 years
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 04, 2017, 07:31:33 PM
This kid is not moving to LB lol. He's a defensive lineman.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 05, 2017, 08:30:28 AM
This kid is not moving to LB lol. He's a defensive lineman.
Yeah, a DL that is too short at 6-1 for DE and too small at 265 for DT.  Did you watch his HUDL video?  For a short pudgy kid, he moves sideline to sideline pretty well.  All I'm saying is if he loses 15lbs. and gains a couple tenths in the 40 he might see the field as ILB.  Otherwise, it's wedge blocking on kickoffs.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 05, 2017, 09:00:28 AM
This kid is not moving to LB lol. He's a defensive lineman.
Yeah, a DL that is too short at 6-1 for DE and too small at 265 for DT.  Did you watch his HUDL video?  For a short pudgy kid, he moves sideline to sideline pretty well.  All I'm saying is if he loses 15lbs. and gains a couple tenths in the 40 he might see the field as ILB.  Otherwise, it's wedge blocking on kickoffs.


Since when is 6-1 too short for DE ? There are plenty of shorter edge rushers. Losing 15 pounds is not gonna make him an ILB. How many 250 pound LB's do you know ? Ray Lewis when he played maybe... Lol.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 05, 2017, 09:15:13 AM
This kid is not moving to LB lol. He's a defensive lineman.
Yeah, a DL that is too short at 6-1 for DE and too small at 265 for DT.  Did you watch his HUDL video?  For a short pudgy kid, he moves sideline to sideline pretty well.  All I'm saying is if he loses 15lbs. and gains a couple tenths in the 40 he might see the field as ILB.  Otherwise, it's wedge blocking on kickoffs.


Since when is 6-1 too short for DE ? There are plenty of shorter edge rushers. Losing 15 pounds is not gonna make him an ILB. How many 250 pound LB's do you know ? Ray Lewis when he played maybe... Lol.
I can find more quality 250 ILB than 6-1 DEs.  At 265 he sits on the bench at DT and at 6-1 he sits at DE.  All I am saying is, if he wants to see the field, he better slim down and move to ILB.  His side to side mobility in HS, even at 265 is pretty good. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 05, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
Find me a good LB who's 250 pounds in this level of football..... I'm not the coach but I find it hard to believe he's moving to LB. Redshirting next year regardless. We have some visitors coming to campus soon. Look for some more commitments.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 05, 2017, 01:55:52 PM
Find me a good LB who's 250 pounds in this level of football..... I'm not the coach but I find it hard to believe he's moving to LB. Redshirting next year regardless. We have some visitors coming to campus soon. Look for some more commitments.
Nick DeLuca would be a good place to start.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: dwj on December 05, 2017, 01:57:26 PM
ISU has him listed at 6.0' 265.  Definitely too short foe DE. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 05, 2017, 02:31:45 PM
ISU has him listed at 6.0' 265.  Definitely too short foe DE.
And a pudgy 265 at that.  This is a guy that can't bulk up, he's too heavy now, but chief knows all and if you doubt it, he'll tell you all about his infinite wisdom.  So I guess we'll have a 5*-11" maybe close to 6' fat DE, instead of shaping this guy up and using his ability as an ILB. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Buddy on December 05, 2017, 08:37:09 PM
My Guess is the coaching staff may know where he fits in the best!!!! ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 05, 2017, 09:07:43 PM
Find me a good LB who's 250 pounds in this level of football..... I'm not the coach but I find it hard to believe he's moving to LB. Redshirting next year regardless. We have some visitors coming to campus soon. Look for some more commitments.
Nick DeLuca would be a good place to start.


Yeah he's listed at 6-3, 245. Doubt he stays at that weight during the season.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 06, 2017, 12:21:51 AM
Have some JUCO visitors coming this weekend. Couple offensive and defensive lineman.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 06, 2017, 08:49:30 AM
Have some JUCO visitors coming this weekend. Couple offensive and defensive lineman.
IMO we are desperate for OTs, but I'm pretty comfortable with the DL.  I looked at a site listing the top 110 prospects from JUCO schools and there were -0- QBs on the list.  That is VERY unusual, especially considering the way they throw the ball around in JUCOs, the QBs usually have great stats.  If we get a couple experienced JUCO OL that could help Cunningham/Craycraft a lot, because it doesn't look like we are going to get any help at QB from that channel.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 11, 2017, 08:19:43 PM
Ohio State Buckeye TE Kierre Hawkins is transferring to YSU. From Maple Heights. 4 star recruit out of high school and ranked a top 15 TE in the country. He and Durkin should make a nice receiving duo at TE. Big get for the Guins.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 12, 2017, 09:03:30 AM
Ohio State Buckeye TE Kierre Hawkins is transferring to YSU. From Maple Heights. 4 star recruit out of high school and ranked a top 15 TE in the country. He and Durkin should make a nice receiving duo at TE. Big get for the Guins.
was mostly a RB in HS, so should be able to fill the Shane Kuhn roll of FB on short yardage if needed too!
not sure I want him or Durkin at TE.  I'm more toward Durkin at TE and Hawkins at WR.  6-4 225 makes a pretty tough matchup for CBs who are 5-9 185. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 10:18:10 AM
Ohio State Buckeye TE Kierre Hawkins is transferring to YSU. From Maple Heights. 4 star recruit out of high school and ranked a top 15 TE in the country. He and Durkin should make a nice receiving duo at TE. Big get for the Guins.
was mostly a RB in HS, so should be able to fill the Shane Kuhn roll of FB on short yardage if needed too!
not sure I want him or Durkin at TE.  I'm more toward Durkin at TE and Hawkins at WR.  6-4 225 makes a pretty tough matchup for CBs who are 5-9 185.


No. He's a TE. He's a big strong kid trust me. I've talked to some people down in Columbus who were excited to see him. Explosive athlete. Just got buried on the depth chart. Had some academic issues. He will shine here.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 12, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
Ohio State Buckeye TE Kierre Hawkins is transferring to YSU. From Maple Heights. 4 star recruit out of high school and ranked a top 15 TE in the country. He and Durkin should make a nice receiving duo at TE. Big get for the Guins.
was mostly a RB in HS, so should be able to fill the Shane Kuhn roll of FB on short yardage if needed too!
not sure I want him or Durkin at TE.  I'm more toward Durkin at TE and Hawkins at WR.  6-4 225 makes a pretty tough matchup for CBs who are 5-9 185.


No. He's a TE. He's a big strong kid trust me. I've talked to some people down in Columbus who were excited to see him. Explosive athlete. Just got buried on the depth chart. Had some academic issues. He will shine here.
"Had some academic issues. He will shine here."
Academic issues always a concern, and do you think YSU is that much easier than OSU?  I don't.
Big and strong doesn't mean he can't play slot/WR. When Belichick had Hernandez and Gronkowski, he played both.  Going back a way I know, but Ozzy Newsome was a WR in Alabama before a Hall of Fame career at TE.  You work with what you have, and my money is on Durking and Hawkins over cluster of underachievers at WR.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 12:10:57 PM
YSU is by far easier academically than OSU. No question. I'm just saying he's going to be a TE. That's a good duo along with Durkin. 2 kids with D1 pedigree.

Heard some rumblings about some transfer QB candidates but that wont come to fruition until later closer to spring ball.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: YSUFANSINCE1990 on December 12, 2017, 12:23:19 PM
 Chief is correct, YSU much easier academically than OSU.  It's a fact, not a slam on YSU.  Unless you play football or basketball, OSU is one of the toughest schools in the country to get into...  Excluding Ivy League.   Considering we lost three tight ends to graduation, this is a good get for Pelini.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
Another commit.

OL Devon Robinson from Monroe College. 6-6, 280 pounds. Had offers from Temple, Miami, Rutgers, Illinois coming out of high school in NJ.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 12, 2017, 02:18:27 PM
You guys smoking dope again?
While YSU is working to grow enrollment and therefore taking most of what they get, OSU is not exceptionally high at all
OSU acceptance rate 49%
Texas 39%
Michigan acceptance rate 28%
Southern California 17%
Duke 9%  YES 9%!
And to be fair, Harvard 6%
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
You guys smoking dope again?
While YSU is working to grow enrollment and therefore taking most of what they get, OSU is not exceptionally high at all
OSU acceptance rate 49%
Texas 39%
Michigan acceptance rate 28%
Southern California 17%
Duke 9%  YES 9%!
And to be fair, Harvard 6%



And YSU is 84%.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 12, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
You guys smoking dope again?
While YSU is working to grow enrollment and therefore taking most of what they get, OSU is not exceptionally high at all
OSU acceptance rate 49%
Texas 39%
Michigan acceptance rate 28%
Southern California 17%
Duke 9%  YES 9%!
And to be fair, Harvard 6%



And YSU is 84%.
FAN said "Unless you play football or basketball, OSU is one of the toughest schools in the country to get into...  Excluding Ivy League."  I challenged him siting numerous examples of schools MUCH harder to get into.  I acknowledged YSU was working to grow enrollment. (gaining under Tressel for the first time in a decade) 
I stand by my challenge, and dispute what FAN said.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Buddy on December 12, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Acceptance has nothing to do with how the accedemic program is. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 12, 2017, 02:57:12 PM
Acceptance has nothing to do with how the accedemic program is.
It doesn't have "everything" to do with the academic program, but I don't think "nothing" is appropriate either.  There seems to be a strong correlation between better, well respected academic programs, and acceptance rates.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 03:04:42 PM
Acceptance has nothing to do with how the accedemic program is.
It doesn't have "everything" to do with the academic program, but I don't think "nothing" is appropriate either.  There seems to be a strong correlation between better, well respected academic programs, and acceptance rates.


Okay so by what you just said and OSU being at 49% and YSU at 84% would prove our point in saying that realistically, the harder school academic wise is in Columbus.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 12, 2017, 03:31:35 PM
Acceptance has nothing to do with how the accedemic program is.
It doesn't have "everything" to do with the academic program, but I don't think "nothing" is appropriate either.  There seems to be a strong correlation between better, well respected academic programs, and acceptance rates.


Okay so by what you just said and OSU being at 49% and YSU at 84% would prove our point in saying that realistically, the harder school academic wise is in Columbus.
the 50-80 acceptance range covers almost all schools.  the elite academic schools are significantly below 50%
BTW, the 84% number was 2014, the 2016 rate for YSU is 69%  The current freshman class grew 5.5% AND has the highest ACT scores in school history, so YSU, after years of mediocre leadership, is responding to new, inspired leadership, but I'd be OK with thinking not all programs are on a par with other major schools.  The budget and long range financial planning and endowment management are also responding under JT's leadership. 
I would say this regarding YSU and OSU, I could make the argument that the football program alone could account for most of the increased interest in attending OSU.  But it is also reasonable to say that the previous 10-20 years prior to Tressel's return, were years of serious neglect and decline in all facets of YSU.  Academics would have to be included in that decline.   Endowment and budget factors are VERY important to us all, and certainly YSU.  Tressel is not a cure-all, but he sure beats the sh** of of his immediate few predecessors!  I'm not about to accept the premise that YSU is far easier than OSU. But I can accept the resources and commitment to educational excellence at OSU has exceeded what YSU has been until we started back. 
My family (wife, daughter son, and I) has degrees from YSU KSU BGSU and OSU.  My clear best educational institution of the bunch? BGSU
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: IAA Fan on December 12, 2017, 03:55:22 PM
Chief is correct, YSU much easier academically than OSU.  It's a fact, not a slam on YSU.  Unless you play football or basketball, OSU is one of the toughest schools in the country to get into...  Excluding Ivy League.   Considering we lost three tight ends to graduation, this is a good get for Pelini.

Cannot agree there at all. Larger schools (let alone OSU, the nation's largest) have an enormous number of General Studies curriculum and more lower intensity (academically speaking) degrees that a smaller school like YSU could absolutely not afford. University requirements to enter YSU are identical to OSU, where is can vary is within a given school. For example my daughter was accepted to OSU while still a senior at JFK, after she took her exams and graduated, the School of Engineering - Mechanical specialization offered her as well. My recommendation was to take it and run, as she can always change majors later, but unless she can keep a 3.3 or above GPA she will not be accepted as a Junior. She did change to ChemE. The point is, that it is tough to get into some schools at OSU, but anyone can get into the university, as long as you meet state guidelines and the depth of curriculum is so much more than YSU could ever hope to offer; OSU has the cash. A player at OSU can go 3-years before they have to declare. Until just the past few years YSu could only afford reading writing and arithmetic. In short, most larger schools are easier than small ones.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 07:15:44 PM
Reality is we got a really nice option at TE.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: penguinpower on December 12, 2017, 08:20:03 PM
YSU is by far easier academically than OSU. No question. I'm just saying he's going to be a TE. That's a good duo along with Durkin. 2 kids with D1 pedigree.

Heard some rumblings about some transfer QB candidates but that wont come to fruition until later closer to spring ball.

UM.....The last time I checked YSU is accredited the same as tOSU.  Maybe you aren't an engineer, but the Engineering Program is ranked like 45th out of 238 schools world wide and we are better than tOSU in that area.  The YSU STEM college overall is probably 2nd in the state of Ohio behind Toledo.

SMH
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: penguinpower on December 12, 2017, 08:23:01 PM
Chief is correct, YSU much easier academically than OSU.  It's a fact, not a slam on YSU.  Unless you play football or basketball, OSU is one of the toughest schools in the country to get into...  Excluding Ivy League.   Considering we lost three tight ends to graduation, this is a good get for Pelini.

Cannot agree there at all. Larger schools (let alone OSU, the nation's largest) have an enormous number of General Studies curriculum and more lower intensity (academically speaking) degrees that a smaller school like YSU could absolutely not afford. University requirements to enter YSU are identical to OSU, where is can vary is within a given school. For example my daughter was accepted to OSU while still a senior at JFK, after she took her exams and graduated, the School of Engineering - Mechanical specialization offered her as well. My recommendation was to take it and run, as she can always change majors later, but unless she can keep a 3.3 or above GPA she will not be accepted as a Junior. She did change to ChemE. The point is, that it is tough to get into some schools at OSU, but anyone can get into the university, as long as you meet state guidelines and the depth of curriculum is some much more than YSU could ever hope to offer. A player at OSU can go 3-years before they have to declare. Until just the past few years YSu could only afford reading writing and arithmetic.

You have to apply to the school of Engineering at YSU.  You cannot just start attending.  You have to have a good GPA and it has to be approved by the Dean even if you are already a current student at YSU.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 12, 2017, 08:24:58 PM
Smh
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: IAA Fan on December 13, 2017, 02:45:01 PM
At the last visit to Columbus that I saw from Tressel, he was very proud of the fact that YSU had 2 major academic accomplishments:

1) Rhodes Scholar
2. The first time YSU had an undergraduate admissions refuse people that qualified. I am certain that it had to do with major being full, but that is a huge accomplishment

BTW, why are you so shocked about Duke? It is only the most prestigious university in the South. They actually can obtain top athletes that are academically-gifted; probably do this better than most Ivy schools. Very strong religious affiliation as well. I was reading about how Duke dropped religious requirements (for undergrads) and they lost a chancellor and president (both resigned) over it.

Let's get back to this guy from OSU & I will see what I can find on him.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 13, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
1AA if you are referring to my note on Duke's 9% acceptance rate, it wasn't that I was shocked, but that I wanted to emphasize the fact that OSU's 49% rate was FAR from the most exclusive outside the Ivy League.  BTW, Stanford is 4.65% which is 22% MORE exclusive than Duke!
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 13, 2017, 03:01:24 PM
Coaching staff is very excited about this kid. He is primed for big things here.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 13, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
Before we get all sexed up on this OSU TE transfer, I have two words of caution:  Louis Irizarry
Apparently what could have been a very sad story seems to have a happy ending, but from a football prospective it was a bust. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: IAA Fan on December 13, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
1AA if you are referring to my note on Duke's 9% acceptance rate, it wasn't that I was shocked, but that I wanted to emphasize the fact that OSU's 49% rate was FAR from the most exclusive outside the Ivy League.  BTW, Stanford is 4.65% which is 22% MORE exclusive than Duke!

I would go so far as to say that Stanford has the top overall athletic programs in the nation, which makes their academics even more impressive. Every year they simply put out the best doctors and lawyers and "rake in" the championships. I will never forget when an announcer on NBC was interviewing a recently appointed provost (that had been at Stanford for many years) and he referred to Stanford as the "Harvard of the West". The provost replied 'I have walked out on interviewers that insulted me less".
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 13, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Before we get all sexed up on this OSU TE transfer, I have two words of caution:  Louis Irizarry
Apparently what could have been a very sad story seems to have a happy ending, but from a football prospective it was a bust.


Wow really ??? Comparing this kid who has had zero off the field issues to a guy who was sent to prison. Classy.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 14, 2017, 10:35:23 AM
Before we get all sexed up on this OSU TE transfer, I have two words of caution:  Louis Irizarry
Apparently what could have been a very sad story seems to have a happy ending, but from a football prospective it was a bust.


Wow really ??? Comparing this kid who has had zero off the field issues to a guy who was sent to prison. Classy.
I could give a sh** less about off field issues.  I was about the only guy on here for giving Richmond a second chance.  My note was about Irizarry being a highly recruited TE at OSU who was -0- on the field, who transferred to YSU and when on to be a bust on the field here too!  The QB at Pitt and Hawkins from OSU were both highly recruited and total busts at the 1A schools, one, both, or neither of them could do something at 1AA, but there is absolutely -0- guarantee.   Go look at the hype when Trent Hosick was a highly recruited QB for then national power Missouri.  He was a -0- there, OK at JUCO and basically -0- here. 

All I am saying is don't get to sexed up over somebody else's bust.  To be candid, we were all excited to get the LB Pollock or Pollard or whoever to transfer and so far -0-.  Same for Durkin, so far -0-  Maybe the transfers will contribute, maybe not.  In my recollection we have had better luck with linemen as JUCO transfers than skilled players.  (mostly kids who can play, but needed academic help)  And truthful, I don't recall having much luck with 1A transfers at any position.
Going back to the Irizarry issue as it relates to the Richmond issue.  We gave both a chance, and the first one, Irizarry is a classic example of a kid growing into a responsible adult and being a success.  Chief, you take a shot at me for "classy"  Well, IMO your knocking Louis as a criminal IS classless. based on what he has done since.   I hope the same for Mil'ik
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 14, 2017, 01:12:39 PM
Nothing classless about my comment. Facts are facts.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 14, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
Nothing classless about my comment. Facts are facts.

And because you say so, it's so?  I disagree with you.  IMO, your comment to me about "classy" WAS classless. 
Facts are facts?  What F_ _ _ ing facts are you talking about?  I simply suggested the on field performance of Irizarry was potentially the same on the field experience we could expect from Hawkins.  My facts regarding previous transfers are defensible facts against your "classy" classless" character assassinations.  YOU are the one lacking in substance, facts, and class.  I'm busy and don't have time to waste on your trash comments.  Later........maybe
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Penguin Ice on December 14, 2017, 03:14:10 PM
Before we get all sexed up on this OSU TE transfer, I have two words of caution:  Louis Irizarry
Apparently what could have been a very sad story seems to have a happy ending, but from a football prospective it was a bust.


Wow really ??? Comparing this kid who has had zero off the field issues to a guy who was sent to prison. Classy.
I could give a sh** less about off field issues.  I was about the only guy on here for giving Richmond a second chance.  My note was about Irizarry being a highly recruited TE at OSU who was -0- on the field, who transferred to YSU and when on to be a bust on the field here too!  The QB at Pitt and Hawkins from OSU were both highly recruited and total busts at the 1A schools, one, both, or neither of them could do something at 1AA, but there is absolutely -0- guarantee.   Go look at the hype when Trent Hosick was a highly recruited QB for then national power Missouri.  He was a -0- there, OK at JUCO and basically -0- here. 

All I am saying is don't get to sexed up over somebody else's bust.  To be candid, we were all excited to get the LB Pollock or Pollard or whoever to transfer and so far -0-.  Same for Durkin, so far -0-  Maybe the transfers will contribute, maybe not.  In my recollection we have had better luck with linemen as JUCO transfers than skilled players.  (mostly kids who can play, but needed academic help)  And truthful, I don't recall having much luck with 1A transfers at any position.
Going back to the Irizarry issue as it relates to the Richmond issue.  We gave both a chance, and the first one, Irizarry is a classic example of a kid growing into a responsible adult and being a success.  Chief, you take a shot at me for "classy"  Well, IMO your knocking Louis as a criminal IS classless. based on what he has done since.   I hope the same for Mil'ik

Wow so now your taking shots at kids who get injured and are going to still have 4 years left to play after their redshirt year and a medical redshirt.  Injuries happen it’s football not cheerleading. But to take a shot at a kid and say he’s contributed Onis classless. You have no idea how he helped on scout team or in the meeting room.
You want to take a shot at coaches or the administration, go for it they are adults and are getting paid a salary. But leave the kids alone, unless of course your name is next to Mayfields on the Heisman
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: go guins on December 15, 2017, 08:57:51 AM
Before we get all sexed up on this OSU TE transfer, I have two words of caution:  Louis Irizarry
Apparently what could have been a very sad story seems to have a happy ending, but from a football prospective it was a bust.


Wow really ??? Comparing this kid who has had zero off the field issues to a guy who was sent to prison. Classy.
I could give a sh** less about off field issues.  I was about the only guy on here for giving Richmond a second chance.  My note was about Irizarry being a highly recruited TE at OSU who was -0- on the field, who transferred to YSU and when on to be a bust on the field here too!  The QB at Pitt and Hawkins from OSU were both highly recruited and total busts at the 1A schools, one, both, or neither of them could do something at 1AA, but there is absolutely -0- guarantee.   Go look at the hype when Trent Hosick was a highly recruited QB for then national power Missouri.  He was a -0- there, OK at JUCO and basically -0- here. 

All I am saying is don't get to sexed up over somebody else's bust.  To be candid, we were all excited to get the LB Pollock or Pollard or whoever to transfer and so far -0-.  Same for Durkin, so far -0-  Maybe the transfers will contribute, maybe not.  In my recollection we have had better luck with linemen as JUCO transfers than skilled players.  (mostly kids who can play, but needed academic help)  And truthful, I don't recall having much luck with 1A transfers at any position.
Going back to the Irizarry issue as it relates to the Richmond issue.  We gave both a chance, and the first one, Irizarry is a classic example of a kid growing into a responsible adult and being a success.  Chief, you take a shot at me for "classy"  Well, IMO your knocking Louis as a criminal IS classless. based on what he has done since.   I hope the same for Mil'ik

Wow so now your taking shots at kids who get injured and are going to still have 4 years left to play after their redshirt year and a medical redshirt.  Injuries happen it’s football not cheerleading. But to take a shot at a kid and say he’s contributed Onis classless. You have no idea how he helped on scout team or in the meeting room.
You want to take a shot at coaches or the administration, go for it they are adults and are getting paid a salary. But leave the kids alone, unless of course your name is next to Mayfields on the Heisman
First, lets be clear, injuries DO happen in cheerleading!  Now you are disrespecting the cheerleaders!
I said the kids in question haven't contributed on the field. That is a simple fact, My quote was"   "was -0- on the field".  I also said "one, both, or neither may contribute"  Tell me that is classless, not true or a knock against the kids in question.  You seem out to attack me, I have better things to do the f*** with you, so I'm out.  Maybe later.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Penguin Ice on December 15, 2017, 12:02:23 PM
Before we get all sexed up on this OSU TE transfer, I have two words of caution:  Louis Irizarry
Apparently what could have been a very sad story seems to have a happy ending, but from a football prospective it was a bust.


Wow really ??? Comparing this kid who has had zero off the field issues to a guy who was sent to prison. Classy.
I could give a sh** less about off field issues.  I was about the only guy on here for giving Richmond a second chance.  My note was about Irizarry being a highly recruited TE at OSU who was -0- on the field, who transferred to YSU and when on to be a bust on the field here too!  The QB at Pitt and Hawkins from OSU were both highly recruited and total busts at the 1A schools, one, both, or neither of them could do something at 1AA, but there is absolutely -0- guarantee.   Go look at the hype when Trent Hosick was a highly recruited QB for then national power Missouri.  He was a -0- there, OK at JUCO and basically -0- here. 

All I am saying is don't get to sexed up over somebody else's bust.  To be candid, we were all excited to get the LB Pollock or Pollard or whoever to transfer and so far -0-.  Same for Durkin, so far -0-  Maybe the transfers will contribute, maybe not.  In my recollection we have had better luck with linemen as JUCO transfers than skilled players.  (mostly kids who can play, but needed academic help)  And truthful, I don't recall having much luck with 1A transfers at any position.
Going back to the Irizarry issue as it relates to the Richmond issue.  We gave both a chance, and the first one, Irizarry is a classic example of a kid growing into a responsible adult and being a success.  Chief, you take a shot at me for "classy"  Well, IMO your knocking Louis as a criminal IS classless. based on what he has done since.   I hope the same for Mil'ik

Wow so now your taking shots at kids who get injured and are going to still have 4 years left to play after their redshirt year and a medical redshirt.  Injuries happen it’s football not cheerleading. But to take a shot at a kid and say he’s contributed Onis classless. You have no idea how he helped on scout team or in the meeting room.
You want to take a shot at coaches or the administration, go for it they are adults and are getting paid a salary. But leave the kids alone, unless of course your name is next to Mayfields on the Heisman
First, lets be clear, injuries DO happen in cheerleading!  Now you are disrespecting the cheerleaders!
I said the kids in question haven't contributed on the field. That is a simple fact, My quote was"   "was -0- on the field".  I also said "one, both, or neither may contribute"  Tell me that is classless, not true or a knock against the kids in question.  You seem out to attack me, I have better things to do the f*** with you, so I'm out.  Maybe later.

No shot at you
Since you add absolutely nothing to the board and attack everything and everyone. Hopefully your maybe later turns into a hopefully never
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 16, 2017, 06:31:24 PM
Add another. Zach Farrar. A 6-3 WR. Was a 3 star recruit out of high school with major offers. Chose Oklahoma last year and redshirted then transferred down to JUCO for this past season. Was also drafted in the 26th round in the MLB Draft. Big pickup!
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: Penguin Ice on December 16, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
Add another. Zach Farrar. A 6-3 WR. Was a 3 star recruit out of high school with major offers. Chose Oklahoma last year and redshirted then transferred down to JUCO for this past season. Was also drafted in the 26th round in the MLB Draft. Big pickup!

Was a Mississippi State commit at one time. Big time player
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 16, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
Very big. Especially since we lose Bailey, Patterson and Derrik.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: penguinpower on December 17, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
Who did we get?  Trevor Parks tweeted about a big get and he usually sits on the sidelines for this kind of stuff
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: ytownchief22 on December 17, 2017, 05:32:00 PM
Look at my posts a couple up. Zach Farrar, a WR who was at Oklahoma last year.
Title: Re: 2018 Football Committement
Post by: penguinpower on December 17, 2017, 05:36:09 PM
Look at my posts a couple up. Zach Farrar, a WR who was at Oklahoma last year.

Thanks!