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By Joe Scalzo
scalzo@vindy.com
YOUNGSTOWN
The Youngstown State University football team is looking for a new defensive coordinator.
St. Petersburg, Fla., native Rick Kravitz will not return after two lackluster seasons as the team’s defensive coordinator, a source familiar with the situation confirmed Monday night.
Kravitz, who also coached linebackers his first year and safeties last fall, oversaw a unit that surrendered 25.7 points per game last season.
Opponents averaged 352.3 yards per game against the Penguins.
YSU gave up a season-high 38 points in a four-point loss to Missouri State in the regular season finale, a defeat that cost the Penguins a playoff berth. MSU scored 28 of those points in the second half.
YSU gave up 31.5 points and 411 yards per game in 2010.
The coaching website FootballScoop.com reported that the team will look outside the program for Kravitz’s replacement.
This is the second coaching change for the Penguins since the season ended. Rollen Smith, the team’s cornerbacks coach last fall, was replaced by South Florida defensive quality control coach Glenn Davis in December.
The rest of the coaches were in the YSU offices Monday, a source said.
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Best of luck Rick, this next hire is big for Wolf
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Thank you Lord.
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;D
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heard Vince Kehres (Larry Kehres is the HC, is son vince is the DC) is a canidate from Mount Union
would be absolutley shocked if he left
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heard Vince Kehres (Larry Kehres is the HC, is son vince is the DC) is a canidate from Mount Union
would be absolutley shocked if he left
If I'm not mistaken the "younger Kehres" left Mount for another D3 a year or two ago. To spread his wings a little. Mount Union is his final "destination location if he is smart". Why give up a gauranteed 15 year job....for a hell packed 2-3 gig at YSU?
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I watched the D3 championship, and I'm pretty sure the announcers said that Kehres' son was still the DC. Actually, if the guy expects to replace his dad some day, it would be good for him to work at a level of football much, much higher than he does now. Should he come here, rebuild our defense, and win big, then he would establish his own credentials and could claim the Mt. Union head job on merit. Not merely as "daddy's boy."
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heard Vince Kehres (Larry Kehres is the HC, is son vince is the DC) is a canidate from Mount Union
would be absolutley shocked if he left
If I'm not mistaken the "younger Kehres" left Mount for another D3 a year or two ago. To spread his wings a little. Mount Union is his final "destination location if he is smart". Why give up a gauranteed 15 year job....for a hell packed 2-3 gig at YSU?
you are 100% Mistaken
been at Mount Union his entire coaching career
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If Kravitz left on his own, then we are looking. If Kravitz was let go, we have someone of stature in mind already.
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Vince Kehres coached at Fitch for a year or two. Hes not a very good coach!
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Thanks 45, scratch that one from the list. We need the best DC that our money can buy!
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Vince Kehres coached at Fitch for a year or two. Hes not a very good coach!
he's a FANTASTIC Defensive Coach
not sure who's crack pipe you've been hitting, nobody gives 2 sh**s what he did at Fitch
in his 7 years as DC, Mount Union is 100-5 with 3 NC wins, 4 NC runner up
in those 105 Games, his D allowed 10 points or less 71 Times
in those 105 Games his D allowed a TD or less 64 Times
in thos 105 Games his D pitched 26 Times
in 35 Playoff games, Mount Union is 30-5
in 35 Playoff games, his D allowed 10 points or less 18 Times
in 35 Playoff games, his D allowed a TD or less 16 Times
name someone with a better resume that is reasonable
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Wildcat
Hes not a good coach. His Daddy is a good coach. He won't be the DC at YSU. I don't care about the records.
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Wildcat
Hes not a good coach. His Daddy is a good coach. He won't be the DC at YSU. I don't care about the records.
yeah he's a fanastic coach
nobobdy gives a sh** if you care about the facts or not, the records still stand
you must have been a butthurt 3rd string bench warmer under him at Fitch
the FACT remains, Larry Kehres has not touched the D since his son took over
but keep trolling along, showing you dont know jacksh** what your talking about
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Wildcat
Hes not a good coach. His Daddy is a good coach. He won't be the DC at YSU. I don't care about the records.
yeah he's a fanastic coach
nobobdy gives a sh** if you care about the facts or not, the records still stand
you must have been a butthurt 3rd string bench warmer under him at Fitch
the FACT remains, Larry Kehres has not touched the D since his son took over
but keep trolling along, showing you dont know jacksh** what your talking about
Not sure who you are, but 45 knows his stuff & played big time football for a National Championship team. I'd say you're the troll. Don't bash someone for giving their opinion
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Agreed, YSU45 is correct on his analysis.
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Wildcat
Hes not a good coach. His Daddy is a good coach. He won't be the DC at YSU. I don't care about the records.
yeah he's a fanastic coach
nobobdy gives a sh** if you care about the facts or not, the records still stand
you must have been a butthurt 3rd string bench warmer under him at Fitch
the FACT remains, Larry Kehres has not touched the D since his son took over
but keep trolling along, showing you dont know jacksh** what your talking about
Not sure who you are, but 45 knows his stuff & played big time football for a National Championship team. I'd say you're the troll. Don't bash someone for giving their opinion
Buuuulllshiiiiit
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Agreed, YSU45 is correct on his analysis.
nope wrong
look at Kehres history in college, that says it all right there
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ysu45 is full of sh** who was nothing more then a butthurt benchwarmer at fitch
not sure why so many morons think Kehres sucks when his college coaching history proves you 100% wrong
its ok its just another board where i automatically become the best poster, this is nothing new
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heard Vince Kehres (Larry Kehres is the HC, is son vince is the DC) is a canidate from Mount Union
would be absolutley shocked if he left
If I'm not mistaken the "younger Kehres" left Mount for another D3 a year or two ago. To spread his wings a little. Mount Union is his final "destination location if he is smart". Why give up a gauranteed 15 year job....for a hell packed 2-3 gig at YSU?
you are 100% Mistaken
been at Mount Union his entire coaching career
Thanks. I wasn't sure. Maybe it was someone else on the staff...maybe not.
No matter, Kehres SR.....has found the "goldmine" or the "fountain of youth"....or strategy, to attract D1 and D2 level players to a D3 school.
Master salesmanship along with the great football coaching.
Let's face it. Alliance is not a "destination location". It ain't LA or Miami. They are doing sooooo many things right there.
Good for them.
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As great as Mt Union's program is, YSU is not going to hire a DC from a small time program. They'll go after a bigger fish
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Agreed, YSU45 is correct on his analysis.
nope wrong
look at Kehres history in college, that says it all right there
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ysu45 is full of sh** who was nothing more then a butthurt benchwarmer at fitch
not sure why so many morons think Kehres sucks when his college coaching history proves you 100% wrong
its ok its just another board where i automatically become the best poster, this is nothing new
You don't get out of your mama's basement much do you? Step away from the keyboard and get back to your video games
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I was intrigued by the young Kehres, until 45 checked in. As a player on one of our National Championship teams, his credentials at football analysis exceed those of anybody else on this site.
When you are looking at Mt. Union's accomplishments, staggering as they are, remember one thing. Unlike the scholarship divisions, there is no limit to the number of players that can try out for that team. They start with some ridiculous figure like 200 players and go from there. Every high school player in Ohio that is not good enough to acquire a scholarship would have Mt. Union first on his wish list. Kehres also benefits from a handful of players who could make it on the D2 or even D1 levels but, for whatever reason, choose to be a whale in a small swimming pool. So in every game that Mt. Union plays until the championship, they have an enormous talent advantage. That edge disappears against Whitewater who seems to corner the market on non-scholarship Wisconsin/Minnesota players. Bottom line is that it is somewhat dangerous to expect that coaching excellence at Mt. Union would translate to the scholarship divisions where the advantages in player procurement evaporate.
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I was intrigued by the young Kehres, until 45 checked in. As a player on one of our National Championship teams, his credentials at football analysis exceed those of anybody else on this site.
When you are looking at Mt. Union's accomplishments, staggering as they are, remember one thing. Unlike the scholarship divisions, there is no limit to the number of players that can try out for that team. They start with some ridiculous figure like 200 players and go from there. Every high school player in Ohio that is not good enough to acquire a scholarship would have Mt. Union first on his wish list. Kehres also benefits from a handful of players who could make it on the D2 or even D1 levels but, for whatever reason, choose to be a whale in a small swimming pool. So in every game that Mt. Union plays until the championship, they have an enormous talent advantage. That edge disappears against Whitewater who seems to corner the market on non-scholarship Wisconsin/Minnesota players. Bottom line is that it is somewhat dangerous to expect that coaching excellence at Mt. Union would translate to the scholarship divisions where the advantages in player procurement evaporate.
Interesting comment. And I agree with the premise.
Just to argue for the sake of talking football,.......let's ask ourselves a question or two. At one point in time, not every D1/D2 hopeful "wanted" to go to Mount Union after they got shunned by D1 programs. Something had to happen there prior......to make them all desire to go to Alliance. A few National Titles in a row created that yearly desire. Kehres created that.
And I too find it amazing that 200 freshman kids will try out for football. They don't get scholarships, some/many get 1/2 of a $35K/yr tuition covered. That still leaves paying more tuition than at YSU.
But Mount does get kids there regularly. And attracting great athletes....recruiting.....makes bad coaches look good. It's easy to go 8-3 or 9-2 at Ohio State.....isn't it?
It's Jimmies and Joes vs X's and O's........I'll take the athletes. That's why you see major college coaches recruiting convicted felons.
If you want to find a truly great Coach like Kehres, find the guy that turns around Hiram football. Then follow him when the get's the Head job at New Mexico State and turns them around. Then he'll get the job at Georgia State....(a new program in a more desirable location/Atlanta). Then when he wins their and upsets Alabama, Ga Tech or Georgia in a week #1 "money game".........Hire HIM!!!
Hire Him!!!......Because he won....playing with crappy players.
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I've been to many UofMU games and yes they do dress around 200 for home games. They have a freshman team also that travels which I think a lot of DIII programs have
As far as tuition, I took a football visit there back in 1988 (Kehres 2nd year there) and I remember Admissions going over all the extra grants I could get as a student athlete to offset the high tuition.
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Mt. Union has more ex-buckeyes than any other program. He would be an assistant at YSU. This real football folks. At $250k ..the name is big.
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I was intrigued by the young Kehres, until 45 checked in. As a player on one of our National Championship teams, his credentials at football analysis exceed those of anybody else on this site.
When you are looking at Mt. Union's accomplishments, staggering as they are, remember one thing. Unlike the scholarship divisions, there is no limit to the number of players that can try out for that team. They start with some ridiculous figure like 200 players and go from there. Every high school player in Ohio that is not good enough to acquire a scholarship would have Mt. Union first on his wish list. Kehres also benefits from a handful of players who could make it on the D2 or even D1 levels but, for whatever reason, choose to be a whale in a small swimming pool. So in every game that Mt. Union plays until the championship, they have an enormous talent advantage. That edge disappears against Whitewater who seems to corner the market on non-scholarship Wisconsin/Minnesota players. Bottom line is that it is somewhat dangerous to expect that coaching excellence at Mt. Union would translate to the scholarship divisions where the advantages in player procurement evaporate.
my 3 NC at UMU>>>>1 NC at YSU
whats your point? does that mean i have 3 times the credabillity LOL YSU45 was nothing more then a butthurt bench warmer at fitch, couldnt care less about his YSU NC ring
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Mt. Union has more ex-buckeyes than any other program. He would be an assistant at YSU. This real football folks. At $250k ..the name is big.
even though no former Ohio St players has played there in over a decade then sure
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I was intrigued by the young Kehres, until 45 checked in. As a player on one of our National Championship teams, his credentials at football analysis exceed those of anybody else on this site.
When you are looking at Mt. Union's accomplishments, staggering as they are, remember one thing. Unlike the scholarship divisions, there is no limit to the number of players that can try out for that team. They start with some ridiculous figure like 200 players and go from there. Every high school player in Ohio that is not good enough to acquire a scholarship would have Mt. Union first on his wish list. Kehres also benefits from a handful of players who could make it on the D2 or even D1 levels but, for whatever reason, choose to be a whale in a small swimming pool. So in every game that Mt. Union plays until the championship, they have an enormous talent advantage. That edge disappears against Whitewater who seems to corner the market on non-scholarship Wisconsin/Minnesota players. Bottom line is that it is somewhat dangerous to expect that coaching excellence at Mt. Union would translate to the scholarship divisions where the advantages in player procurement evaporate.
my 3 NC at UMU>>>>1 NC at YSU
whats your point? does that mean i have 3 times the credabillity LOL YSU45 was nothing more then a butthurt bench warmer at fitch, couldnt care less about his YSU NC ring
45 doesn't need me defending him, but I believe he has more than 1 NC ring. So Wildcat, did you play for Mount? What are you credentials besides saying the same thing over & over?
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If we're going to talk to Vince... why not talk with the Whitewater DC? He's been able to stop the Mount Offense!
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Wolford is taking his time and being thorough, just as he did after he was hired and assembled his staff. That is a good thing. Perhaps the DC will be someone that has not even been mentioned here. As another poster suggested, with our offense, this has got to be a very attractive job. You don't have to be perfect; just don't stink.
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Quote from YSU Azzcat about YSU45 "you must have been a butthurt 3rd string bench warmer under him at Fitch"
Quote from HLecter about YSU Azzcat:::Get the F out of here. Based on the above tidbit, you have no credibility .
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I don't know who wildcat is, but it's obvious he doesn't understand how D3 football works!
I do know YSU45! He was far from a bench warmer... at Fitch or YSU
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Wolford is taking his time and being thorough, just as he did after he was hired and assembled his staff. That is a good thing. Perhaps the DC will be someone that has not even been mentioned here. As another poster suggested, with our offense, this has got to be a very attractive job. You don't have to be perfect; just don't stink.
Agreed! Like or hate Wolf......this team is better. Better athletes. Not the same "community" feeling. No doubt. It's all business. But he is a couple of Db's away IMO.
How long he'll stay win or lose.....is the $64,000 question.
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Wolford is taking his time and being thorough, just as he did after he was hired and assembled his staff. That is a good thing. Perhaps the DC will be someone that has not even been mentioned here. As another poster suggested, with our offense, this has got to be a very attractive job. You don't have to be perfect; just don't stink.
Agreed! Like or hate Wolf......this team is better. Better athletes. Not the same "community" feeling. No doubt. It's all business. But he is a couple of Db's away IMO.
How long he'll stay win or lose.....is the $64,000 question.
How long can we keep coach M is the $65,000 question. ;)
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Wolford is taking his time and being thorough, just as he did after he was hired and assembled his staff. That is a good thing. Perhaps the DC will be someone that has not even been mentioned here. As another poster suggested, with our offense, this has got to be a very attractive job. You don't have to be perfect; just don't stink.
Agreed! Like or hate Wolf......this team is better. Better athletes. Not the same "community" feeling. No doubt. It's all business. But he is a couple of Db's away IMO.
How long he'll stay win or lose.....is the $64,000 question.
How long can we keep coach M is the $65,000 question. ;)
Yep......agreed. It's a team effort......Teams and programs.....at least successful ones........have people who
"love"them.........will run thru a wall for them. It'll be interesting to see if that happens.