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Any thoughts?
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How about this ...record ...most rushing yardage ever gained against YSU ...by a single back & I think overall as well. Still don't think Kravitz is the issue? This is a middle of the pack club ...not to sound disrespectful to a team that just beat us. So what wins do we have to look forward to? I want to see YSU football. Big d-lines with run-stopping power and LB's that get in there and make plays. At some point we have to stop talking youth & "good losses" ...and win a ball game against someone with scholarship players. We win games with defense. This is not the SEC.
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thank you mr strollo for another great hire! You are the worst div1 athletic director! Wait a minute you have been very good at destroying what tressel built. Another 3 or 4 win year. bring back the Vest!!! Fire Strollo now for the sake of all ysu sports programs.
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>:( Very frustrated with the lack of preparation. It should not take us until halftime to figure out how to defend someone. I wasn't a fan of getting rid of Coach H. Trying to give this guy a chance, but not very confident right now.
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Shameful, embarrassing, humiliating. Have I missed any words? You invest your total emotions in this program, and they reward you with a sleep-walking, half-posterior performance for the first fifteen minutes. And who was the mighty opponent: Indiana State. An opponent that the better teams in this league will hold under 25 points and score against on at least 75% of their possessions.
Here are my final thoughts that largely echo the comments in the posts below.
First, Eric Wolford must learn to prepare a team for road games or he will meet the same fate as Jon Heacock.
Second, Eric Wolford must find a good defensive coordinator or he will meet the same fate as Jon Heacock.
Great game plan Coach Kravitz and brilliantly executed. You made that little back look like freakin' Adrian Peterson.
Third, this atrocity of a performance will cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars. We will not draw more than 10,000 (actual) for any of the remaining games. Nor should we. Casual fans have no obligation to watch bad football.
Strangely, this horror show convinced me to refuse to renew my basketball tickets. Each year I seem to care less and less about basketball. And the losing certainly did not elevate my enthusiasm. But I bought tickets and went to most of the games out of a sense of loyalty to the university. Not any more. I have adopted a capitalist approach. Give me a good football team and I will support both basketball teams. Give me what I was forced to endure today and I refuse to support your secondary sports. Ironically, that makes me the one-sport YSU fan that I used to denounce.
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We all need to calm down...Please look at the 2 Deep depth charts and count how many Seniors are in the mix...look at games started etc,,,
The roster was gutted because we needed to upgrade size, speed, athleticism, and look like a FCS team...Wolford is recruiting his ass off but this is a 3-5 yr project...and then we should be back in the mix...Indy State will win more than you think..but we have to be patient and let the rebuild happen...
When u have Fresh and Sophs manning aloit of the positions you probably are not going to win championships...
The problem is we got lucky and got an offensive genuis that knows offensive football and can tutor QB's to make the pro's...Montgomery-and Big Ben...this team is improving and growing every week..Hess is what 4 games into his soph year...so again patience ...fans
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I think the coach gets an F today. The team was not ready to play. No excusses. Looks like they thought the off week was this week.
ISU was too fast for us today.
Speed kills and defense wins games.
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Our defense on the right side of the line was terrible, Sahir Bell loved going right!! Yes, he is a great runner with speed, but he had 4 huge runs that destroyed us. :-[
YSU's passing defense can not keep up with ISU's receivers!! Yet, ISU's defensive backs keep up with ours step for step. :(
That fumble by our lineman on the one yd. line was super huge in ISU win. :'(
Well we still have seven more games to win.
Good post from the other thread I thought should be here. This is EXACTLY the point I am making. Our style of defense is not conducive to play in the Gateway. Just because the name changed does not mean the ball did. I just do not want to keep waiting to find out what we already know. Our secondary is all speed ...none of them know where the ball is most of the time. In this league, they are slower than ours, but they make plays on the ball. This forces the receivers to stay close as well. We just chase after them.
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We all need to calm down...Please look at the 2 Deep depth charts and count how many Seniors are in the mix...look at games started etc,,,
The roster was gutted because we needed to upgrade size, speed, athleticism, and look like a FCS team...Wolford is recruiting his a$$ off but this is a 3-5 yr project...and then we should be back in the mix...Indy State will win more than you think..but we have to be patient and let the rebuild happen...
When u have Fresh and Sophs manning aloit of the positions you probably are not going to win championships...
The problem is we got lucky and got an offensive genuis that knows offensive football and can tutor QB's to make the pro's...Montgomery-and Big Ben...this team is improving and growing every week..Hess is what 4 games into his soph year...so again patience ...fans
Good post
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A couple quick observations:
Why weren't we prepared to handle the blitz?
With all the crappy play we still had a chance at the end. Why in the world try an on-side kick? I know we had two TOs left, did we have 3?
Onside kicks are successful what 3% of the time?
We're down 2, the better play is to kick deep, hope to hold them deep and get decent field position on a punt.
Kicking deep could have brought a holding penalty against them which probably happens 10-15% of the time (guessing of course)----10-15% is better odds than the 3% of recovering an onside kick.
I hated that call.
I'll have more to say tommw after I watch the game again, but THIS TEAM WAS NOT READY TO PLAY and that is on the coaching staff.
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A couple of things. I believe Wolford is going to be good for us but he may have to change his D-Coordinator at years end. Our defense is aweful and we still have to play UNI, NDSU, and SIU on the road.
Remember the program was a mess talent wise under Heacock and getting worse each year. We need to win out at home and pray for a miracle on the road. Finishing 6-5 if we go undefeated at home is a 3 game improvement over LY but we need to learn to play on the road and play 4 quarters of football.
If we are still struggling after 2012 season then we need to worry. 2012 should be the playoff year. I hope. It wouldn't surprise me we change D-Coordinators at years end.
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What is Devont'a Davis' status on the defense? I see he is falling on the depth chart and has NO recorded tackles the last two games.... Does it bother anyone else that when Wolford discusses playing on the road in the MVFC it's like a loss is a forgone conclusion? You would think we were playing in Baton Rouge against LSU......Lastly, maybe Mike Stoops can replace Kravitz as it appears his days are numbered at U of Arizona.
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What is Devont'a Davis' status on the defense? I see he is falling on the depth chart and has NO recorded tackles the last two games.... Does it bother anyone else that when Wolford discusses playing on the road in the MVFC it's like a loss is a forgone conclusion? You would think we were playing in Baton Rouge against LSU......Lastly, maybe Mike Stoops can replace Kravitz as it appears his days are numbered at U of Arizona.
On Stoops, if he doesn't survive at Arizona, do you really think he's going to drop down and come be the D coordinator at a mid tier FCS program after leading a BCS program? I think not
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I really was kidding................ UofA was torched for 400+ on the ground...
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A couple quick observations:
Why weren't we prepared to handle the blitz?
With all the crappy play we still had a chance at the end. Why in the world try an on-side kick? I know we had two TOs left, did we have 3?
Onside kicks are successful what 3% of the time?
We're down 2, the better play is to kick deep, hope to hold them deep and get decent field position on a punt.
Kicking deep could have brought a holding penalty against them which probably happens 10-15% of the time (guessing of course)----10-15% is better odds than the 3% of recovering an onside kick.
I hated that call.
I'll have more to say tommw after I watch the game again, but THIS TEAM WAS NOT READY TO PLAY and that is on the coaching staff.
I was thinking on-side kick waaaay earlier(2nd qtr). It doesn't look like we practice them.
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Wick, I think you are going over the top with basketball. Heck I am very excited about Penguin hoops this year. We had all three TO's left Lecter ...Wolf did not call his last one ...nice sign of maturation as a HC, I was very pleased.
Maybe Kravitz is used to a higher talent level, but I just think we need more work on fundamentals. Then more use of upper-classmen to help. The secondary of ISU watched the ball the whole way ...you will not get any INTs that way (unless the pass is bad) ...but it is a good place to start. We need to worry about weight up front ...before height. I know you can make someone bigger, but not taller, but I do not buy it. We cannot wait 30-minutes to find a way to bring pressure.
Coach T and coach H always had issues with small backs (Freeny, Karpenter, Edwards, Stecker, even that little guy from Marshall). Although I misspoke in my previous post. Bell did not have 296 against us ...it was 256. So Bell did not set a record ...he is is second. The 1999 Adrian Peterson still has him by 4-yards.
BTW: I forgot to mention how terrific Sharbaugh was in the game. Nice!!
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Here is what I saw:
Coaching staff did not have the team ready to play. How could we be so well prepared for Michigan State, Valpo and Illinois State and be so unprepared for Indiana State?
I may be answering my own question, but the offense was still in the second half lull it was in at the end of the Illinois State Game at the beginning of this game.
Indiana State played faster or least it appeared that way to me.
I see that our inability to recognize problems in defensive alignment is becoming a common theme. Against Illinois State the receiver ran the same route on every single 3rd down and we were burned over the middle. In this game we had the same type of issue where they ran the ball to the outside. They also had the TE open over the middle.
Why don't we know how to run press coverage? With our speed we should be in man in the secondary running true bump and run. It's like we run the press half assed. We are not covering well enough and it does not appear that we are using our safety and LB's for run support. How many times did we have a LB in man coverage on a WR? We did not get off of our blocks yesterday, especially on the corners. Someone teach the corners how to get off their blocks please!
Finally, why do we show our defensive alignment all the time? We only stunt on a blitz (and we are not blitzing much). There is no shifting on the DL or by the LB's or the Safety. When we do blitz we always show where it is coming from before the play is run. Every time the tackle is gapped out that is the side the blitz is coming from. All the QB has to do is read it and throw a bubble screen to the half back or get his WR open behind him. I watched the RB release, block the corner down and get the WR open and I saw them get the ball to the RB while the WR blocked the corner out of bounds on the same defensive play. They had two answers for that alignment. We have to have the speed and physical play to get off of our blocks.
I know we are young and this is a project, but my goodness we make it look like a 7 on 7 the way we play defense. I think that Indiana State had a great game plan against our defense. They did a great job of identifying our weaknesses. One of them is that it takes us way, way way too long to identify a problem, coach the player up, and then get him to stop it. USE a time out if something is looking like that. Especially early in the game when you are getting taken to the woodshed. Try to find an answer.
Our offense looked mortal against the blitz this week. Why? Illinois State blitzed and we were able to deal with it. What happened this week? Were we outmatched or not playing hard or both?
Damnit, The Buckeyes are going to suck this year so I was at least hoping that I could look forward to a possible playoff run or at least get close. But you can't expect to be in the mix when you let someone score that many points on you, especially the way they did it. That little running back should have been planted early and often. Why do we have to load the box to stop a run play too? Where are our LB's? i never see them make plays unless they are in the secondary. Is that a problem?
Starting to rant so I'll stop.
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1AA,
I agree with fundamentals. We are lacking in that area for whatever reason. Our defense is athletic and talented but we are not in position most of the time and too many missed tackles. That is on the defensive coaches to fix yet it has been an issue two years now.
I hope the week off this week the coaches make fundatmentals a priority.
SDSU will not be an easy game if we are not ready. They almost beat Ill. St. on the road.
I dread the road game at NDSU that can get ugly. They are probably the best team in the FCS right now.
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Relax, it is only Wolford's start of his second year. It will take time to correct the disaster that Heacock left him. As you can see I didn't call him coach Heacock as he was not that or a recruiter or was he any good with the fans who supported the team. Heacock's team had to be gutted and replaced with players who can play. So give the team some time. Watch for a good team next year and the year after. Until then keep supporting this coach and team. GO YSU PENGUINS
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Let's not bring this back to a coach T vs. coach H vs. a coach W thread. We had plenty of time under the first two ...not as much under coach W. We just want to see some quality football for the massive increase in $$ the current staff has. I want to see improvement, no matter how slight it may be. So far I have seen two GFC O-backs rip us apart. I have seen two GFC QB's have good outings against us. We have yet to face the conference's best in either position.
We have seen some improvement in areas ...o line, QB, use of a more power-oriented back and a multi-back set on offense. Some improvement in routs by the WR's. Finally a realization that TE's are still vital in this conference ...especially with a pro-set QB. I fully expect Montgomery to mix in some non-QB snaps this season or next.
On defense I see some more advanced formations than under the predecessors, but no results.
I know this is very basic, and may sound naive in today's world of read-oriented offenses. However, I have always believed that an offense has two weapons ...running and passing. I have always watched YSU coaches do different things, but they tried to shut down one or the other. I prefer to stop the run in this conference, then let them beat us with the pass. Yes this requires top-notch db's/cb's that can play man. It requires big run-stopping lines; but most of all it requires line-backers from h3ll.
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REALLY....?????
I am stunned by all these posts.....
1) we win that game running away if we don't fumble the ball on defense going in.....
2) there were guys in position all day to make plays on defense...they just did not tackle...if you look
at every big plays Ind. St. had... we had multiple chances to bring em down....
3) there is not a team in the country that will letter as many fresh - sophs on defense as YSU...growing
pains...not a whole lot left to Coach W on D...
4) always difficult to travel that far and win on the road...AND...this is not your fathers Ind. St. team...so enough of the ..."we always beat these guys BS"...they will win there share of games this year...that team
is not bad...
5) as far as the onside kick....what did you expect them to do...even if they kick it away...with the TO's...they get the ball back with no time...
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Trian,
I'm not sure which game you were watching but I saw an average. Team beat us down like we didn't belong in the first half. More specifically the first 15 minutes. They had such a large lead that they could blitz the crap out of us. That. Is not the way you start a game It took way to long for us to make any adjustments to what they were doing and I watched our safeties give up on plays. There were missed tackles but we were out of postion on thos toss sweep plays around the edge.
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So i guess after everybody checked out the 2 deep depth chart..they think we are going to be effective with frosh, and sophomores and JC transfers with very few gameday starts under their belts..not going to happen...
We have a long way to go and i am sure the tackling issues will be addressed during the bye week.
This team was gutted for a reason we lacked depth, talent and athleticism, size..and that has been addressed.
If we would have got a favorable call on the fumble recovery we would have a W...
I agree about the onside kick would have kicked it away...
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Relax, it is only Wolford's start of his second year. It will take time to correct the disaster that Heacock left him. As you can see I didn't call him coach Heacock as he was not that or a recruiter or was he any good with the fans who supported the team. Heacock's team had to be gutted and replaced with players who can play. So give the team some time. Watch for a good team next year and the year after. Until then keep supporting this coach and team. GO YSU PENGUINS
Accountability dammit! We're blaming Heacock still? This sounds like one of those "Blame Bush" excuses.
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I felt the on-side kick was smart. just not executed well. We were not going to stop Bell. I also thought about the onside kick earlier. Also, we were afraid to blitz when we had them still in shock with the comeback attempt. However, it was allowing 21-points in the first 15-minutes that killed us. Then, not scoring on our opening possession of the second half was the dagger. We needed the turn-over, but we lost that as well. Although I am not convinced the ball did not cross. Replay had only one angle ...basically from behind & left.
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How could they run 4 sweeps for touchdowns. It was not fancy or deceptive it was a sweep. We looked lost defensively. They made it look so easy. The schedule does not get easier North Dakota handled Minnesota. I hope we make some adjustments over the next 2 weeks
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Relax, it is only Wolford's start of his second year. It will take time to correct the disaster that Heacock left him. As you can see I didn't call him coach Heacock as he was not that or a recruiter or was he any good with the fans who supported the team. Heacock's team had to be gutted and replaced with players who can play. So give the team some time. Watch for a good team next year and the year after. Until then keep supporting this coach and team. GO YSU PENGUINS
Accountability dammit! We're blaming Heacock still? This sounds like one of those "Blame Bush" excuses.
Heacock is the problem for the shape the program was left to the current coach and you can't fix that big of a mess in 1 season plus 4 games. You could bring in the best coach in all of football and it wouldn't get done this quick. As far as accountability if after a few years he desn't produce then you hold him accountable. So don't get all worked up. At least you put Heacock in the company of the worst President in the history of this country.
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Relax, it is only Wolford's start of his second year. It will take time to correct the disaster that Heacock left him. As you can see I didn't call him coach Heacock as he was not that or a recruiter or was he any good with the fans who supported the team. Heacock's team had to be gutted and replaced with players who can play. So give the team some time. Watch for a good team next year and the year after. Until then keep supporting this coach and team. GO YSU PENGUINS
Accountability dammit! We're blaming Heacock still? This sounds like one of those "Blame Bush" excuses.
Heacock is the problem for the shape the program was left to the current coach and you can't fix that big of a mess in 1 season plus 4 games. You could bring in the best coach in all of football and it wouldn't get done this quick. As far as accountability if after a few years he desn't produce then you hold him accountable. So don't get all worked up. At least you put Heacock in the company of the worst President in the history of this country.
What ever retard. No one is claiming Wolford is Heacock. That loss was on the coaching staff. Not due to the talent level.
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If you go to the official athletic department website, you can see this headline: "Football's Valiant Comeback Falls Short at Indiana State." This underscores the problem we have endured here for over a decade. We accept mediocrity. Clearly, yesterday was no moral victory because of any comeback. It might have been the most unprepared any YSU team has ever been for a football game.
Now several posters have correctly cited the youth and inexperience of our defensive players. That is very true, and I could accept it if they lined up properly, played hard, but lost to better opponents. But the effort was not there during that first quarter and the schemes were atrocious. That is on the coaches for either calling the wrong formations or not pulling starters faster if they were disregarding proper instructions.
Last night I watched a high school team with about two marginal D1 prospects defeat a nationally recruited all star team with over a dozen top tier D1 prospects. Now Mooney loses to Red Lion 9 times out of 10, but yesterday a highly motivated and properly prepared team beat the odds. All I am asking our exceptionally well-paid (for our level of football) staff to do is motivate our players and provide them with the technical knowledge to play up to their abilities. That did not happen yesterday. And that is why I continue to rebel against mediocrity.
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Penguin Power..I am in total agreement
I made Pigs in the Blanket to serve fans,for our "stay at home, watch on TV"
(which was not an easy task for this long time road warrior) and
I know I did MORE prep work on those Pigs, than our coaches did
for the teams 1st half of the game, at least that is how I read it. Too
bad for the team, the potential is there, I'm convinced of that....but Oh
my gosh.....the leaders were out to lunch!!!!
GO PENGUINS
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Gentlemen,
Wow! When Pita trashes our coaches, the verdict is in and this conversation is over. 8)
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I think the coaching staff should have to do laps!
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the bottom line is until YSU fires STROLLO we will never see changes in our sports programs. Let's hire the "VEST" for AD at least he knows how to achieve what we all desire and that is winning sports programs!!
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WICK.....You made me laugh. I calls em as I sees em
I do agree with the Coaches doing laps....for this one
perhaps around Kent would be good. Sorry had to
say that.
I know, I'm a tough disciplinarian....age does that to you.
P. S.....STROLLO being let go....That is so senseless, it
is impossible to respond to that statement. Could we
meet for a debate on that topic? Good grief, what, do you
think AD's have a Crystal Ball that they look into before they
do their hires........gimme a break!!!
GO PENGUINS
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So everyone knows.......I am not trying to trash the coaching staff. I am simply stating that coaching WAS an issue in this game. ISU is a good team, but we have shown that we can play very, very well. As coach Wolford states "The expectation here is Championships". I do not care if we are beaten because of talent, and I'm not saying that we are at the level of winning NC's with the current experience level, and talent level, but the fundamentals were not there. I would be proud if they would have played well and not won. We played well for 1 half of football. We didn't get off the bus for 2 qtrs. The good thing is that at least we didn't have a rash of penalties.
Keep in mind that Indiana State's game plan probably changed when they got up by 3 td's. Mine would have anyway. I would have run risky blitzing schemes. Why not? What do you have to lose...........a TD? Big deal, we'll just score again. Up by 3td's on offense..I would get a little more conservative with the O and I think they did. Why risk a T/O? The problem is that they didn't run risky plays. They scored on toss sweep run plays. It doesn't get any better than that if you are Indiana State.
This whole thing irritates the hell out of me. I guess the reason is that IF (and that is a very qualified IF) we were somehow able to develop the D and keep playing good O and special teams we could possibly (but unlikely) play for the conference championship with the talent level on the team. However, it is not going to happen when you give up big plays like we did and it is particularly frustrating to watch a team run the same play over and over and not be able to stop it.
Does anyone remember when we ran the read option against Illinois State in 2006? That was the first time we used it. Mason was our RB. They had no answer. We ran it every play and blew them out at home (I was there they were ranked 3rd at the time) and then we ran it in the playoffs against them and they still had no answer. The same thing happened to us this week and last week as well.
I know that we have a young team but please spare me the excuses. They were not that good IMOP.
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the bottom line is until YSU fires STROLLO we will never see changes in our sports programs. Let's hire the "VEST" for AD at least he knows how to achieve what we all desire and that is winning sports programs!!
The last time I checked the VEST didn't have wining anything programs except football. The VEST is not for hire. He is working for the Colts.
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Strollo's track record of hiring speaks for its self.
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I was sick after this performance. It appeared to me that people were giving up out there.
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the bottom line is until YSU fires STROLLO we will never see changes in our sports programs. Let's hire the "VEST" for AD at least he knows how to achieve what we all desire and that is winning sports programs!!
Yea, hire Tre$$le back so he can bring more NCAA sanctions back to YSU. He's proven he'll win at all costs no matter what rules are broken. What a fraud
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and what does any of this have to with Penguin football? If you want a trash Strollo/Heacock/Tressel thread ...than make it. None of these guys had anything to do with Saturday's loss. Start looking at some defensive coaches with the team now.
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Well I've waited to say my piece on this matter so here it goes;
1. Indy State is a good football team period.
2. Coaching staff needs a class on preperation.
3. Pita and Ray you missed a great toast hosted by myself :) Road warriors ROCK!! 8)
GooooGuins!!!!!!!!!! 9-2
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I think this goes back to something I was talking about previously ...the lack of use with some of our experienced players. I understand what people are saying about the better players need to play, but that can only go so far. You are always going to hope that the newest players are more skilled (or at least as-skilled) as you current starters. This means you are continuing to recruit well. Position coaches are only going to be able to teach "so much". There comes a point when an experienced player is the best coach of young players. Lack of this is what is going to extend the time the coaches will need improve the team.
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We all need to calm down...Please look at the 2 Deep depth charts and count how many Seniors are in the mix...look at games started etc,,,
The roster was gutted because we needed to upgrade size, speed, athleticism, and look like a FCS team...Wolford is recruiting his a$$ off but this is a 3-5 yr project...and then we should be back in the mix...Indy State will win more than you think..but we have to be patient and let the rebuild happen...
When u have Fresh and Sophs manning aloit of the positions you probably are not going to win championships...
The problem is we got lucky and got an offensive genuis that knows offensive football and can tutor QB's to make the pro's...Montgomery-and Big Ben...this team is improving and growing every week..Hess is what 4 games into his soph year...so again patience ...fans
Agree 100%. Some folks thinks this stuff happens overnight. It doesn't.
Coach could go the "full JUCO" route and get us better quicker. But that is a slippery slope. After each year or two, the cupboard is bare again. He's trying to find a balance between JUCO's (who can play now and keep us fans happy) and 4 year guys (who will build the solid championship foundation).
And it'll take 4 years minimum. Understand that reality.
With that said, we should see incremental improvement each year. Last year wasn't good. This game wasn't good.
But I can see the talent he has brought in. With patience and support (from us), I think Coach will get there.
Let's stay positive so potential recruits who read this stuff get excited. A player or two can make all the difference in the world.
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Pizza,
I am not one of those people that doesn't realize it is going to take time. What bothered me is that we were the better team last Saturday. Had we came to play the way we did against Michigan State, we would have beaten them by more than 2 scores. We shouldn't have lost that game. Take away the 21 spot and we win. We played in a fog. The first 15 minutes. That is in addition to the fact that we almost scored a defensive TD that we fumbled out of the endzone and gave it back. That is a play I blame on youth. That is a play that he will learn from. I know that coach practice ball protection.
The real problem that I had was the fact that we may need this win at the end if the year to have a shot at the playoffs. I believe that we could make some noise in the conference this year. That was an unnecessary loss.
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Pizza,
I am not one of those people that doesn't realize it is going to take time. What bothered me is that we were the better team last Saturday. Had we came to play the way we did against Michigan State, we would have beaten them by more than 2 scores. We shouldn't have lost that game. Take away the 21 spot and we win. We played in a fog. The first 15 minutes. That is in addition to the fact that we almost scored a defensive TD that we fumbled out of the endzone and gave it back. That is a play I blame on youth. That is a play that he will learn from. I know that coach practice ball protection.
The real problem that I had was the fact that we may need this win at the end if the year to have a shot at the playoffs. I believe that we could make some noise in the conference this year. That was an unnecessary loss.
Yep. I pretty much agree.
An unnecessary loss. Gotta win the games you should......and a few you shouldn't, to be great.
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I think this goes back to something I was talking about previously ...the lack of use with some of our experienced players. I understand what people are saying about the better players need to play, but that can only go so far. You are always going to hope that the newest players are more skilled (or at least as-skilled) as you current starters. This means you are continuing to recruit well. Position coaches are only going to be able to teach "so much". There comes a point when an experienced player is the best coach of young players. Lack of this is what is going to extend the time the coaches will need improve the team.
For example John Sasson is no longer a starter? Are you kidding me?
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We all need to calm down...Please look at the 2 Deep depth charts and count how many Seniors are in the mix...look at games started etc,,,
The roster was gutted because we needed to upgrade size, speed, athleticism, and look like a FCS team...Wolford is recruiting his a$$ off but this is a 3-5 yr project...and then we should be back in the mix...Indy State will win more than you think..but we have to be patient and let the rebuild happen...
When u have Fresh and Sophs manning aloit of the positions you probably are not going to win championships...
The problem is we got lucky and got an offensive genuis that knows offensive football and can tutor QB's to make the pro's...Montgomery-and Big Ben...this team is improving and growing every week..Hess is what 4 games into his soph year...so again patience ...fans
Agree 100%. Some folks thinks this stuff happens overnight. It doesn't.
Coach could go the "full JUCO" route and get us better quicker. But that is a slippery slope. After each year or two, the cupboard is bare again. He's trying to find a balance between JUCO's (who can play now and keep us fans happy) and 4 year guys (who will build the solid championship foundation).
And it'll take 4 years minimum. Understand that reality.
With that said, we should see incremental improvement each year. Last year wasn't good. This game wasn't good.
But I can see the talent he has brought in. With patience and support (from us), I think Coach will get there.
Let's stay positive so potential recruits who read this stuff get excited. A player or two can make all the difference in the world.
Nobody here is calling for Wolf's firing and this should never have turned into a Strollo/Heacock vs WOlf thread (which it is leaning to).
The team was not prepared to play Saturday. I don't give a crap how young they are blah blah blah
They were not ready to play. That is on the coaching staff.
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What is Devont'a Davis' status on the defense? I see he is falling on the depth chart and has NO recorded tackles the last two games....
Good question. He did not play this week. Anyone have an update on him?
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I think this goes back to something I was talking about previously ...the lack of use with some of our experienced players. I understand what people are saying about the better players need to play, but that can only go so far. You are always going to hope that the newest players are more skilled (or at least as-skilled) as you current starters. This means you are continuing to recruit well. Position coaches are only going to be able to teach "so much". There comes a point when an experienced player is the best coach of young players. Lack of this is what is going to extend the time the coaches will need improve the team.
For example John Sasson is no longer a starter? Are you kidding me?
John Sasson is a leader. He is one tough SOB. He is humble. He leads by example. And he is a fine LB and has been for his whole time at YSU.
If he is a step "slower" so be it......he'll crack heads for 60 minutes. And that will be a good thing during a 60 minute game.
I am not his Dad. Just someone who knows a little a about linebacking..., character..and leadership.