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Some fan's in Nebraska believe that Jim Tressel is the most safe and logical choice for them to pursue as their head coach. Reading the Husker message boards and they have even posted screen shots as Tressel being listed as the leading candidate on on-line casinos.
Another coaching situation to keep an eye on is UNLV. I've been to UNLV for a football game and two things, they have zero fan interest, their stadium is an off campus in the middle of the desert dump, and their football facilities are laughable.
UNLV appears to be so hard up for money for a facility drive that it appears that they are seriously entertaining 30 million dollars from Fertitta family (on of the richest families in Vegas) which would be contingent on them hiring Bishop Gorman High School (Las Vegas) head coach Tony Sanchez.
From what I've read, it sounds like Sanchez has zero college experience in coaching.
Obviously the UNLV athletic department has never heard of Gerry Faust.
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Some fan's in Nebraska believe that Jim Tressel is the most safe and logical choice for them to pursue as their head coach. Reading the Husker message boards and they have even posted screen shots as Tressel being listed as the leading candidate on on-line casinos.
Another coaching situation to keep an eye on is UNLV. I've been to UNLV for a football game and two things, they have zero fan interest, their stadium is an off campus in the middle of the desert dump, and their football facilities are laughable.
UNLV appears to be so hard up for money for a facility drive that it appears that they are seriously entertaining 30 million dollars from Fertitta family (on of the richest families in Vegas) which would be contingent on them hiring Bishop Gorman High School (Las Vegas) head coach Tony Sanchez.
From what I've read, it sounds like Sanchez has zero college experience in coaching.
Obviously the UNLV athletic department has never heard of Gerry Faust.
This came out yesterday from Dustin Fox from CBS:
@DustinFox37 I can confirm Tressel is NOT going to coach at Nebraska. Stop with all the rumors.
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Good call out.....Now they just need to stay away from Jerry Kill.
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their guy is Craig Bohl, he used to be a coach at nebraska before becoming head coach at NDSU and leaving last year for Wyoming
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;) JT could coach Nebraska and still be YSU's president... He's that good ;D
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Yeah, I agree Bohl is gonna end up there. Good fit for that program.
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;) JT could coach Nebraska and still be YSU's president... He's that good ;D
And he could wear his red vest on either campus.
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I live in Las Vegas. UNLV is NOT going to hire Tressel. People are just throwing out names on the UNLV message board, Twitter and other places, the same as is being down at YSU and EVERY other school with an opening. Actually, the Tressel discussion stopped back in October, when I shared a link to a story in which Tressel said he has no interest to return to coaching, and is happy with his job at YSU. Then there is the fact the "show cause" is still in effect.
Tressel is NOT going to leave YSU to go coach at Nebraska. That makes no sense at all. First, he is not able to coach yet as the "show cause" penalty has not expired. Second, Nebraska is a place where they like NEBRASKA people. And, look at his track record. He stayed at YSU for 15 years. Was at TOSU for 10 years. He was content at Akron, then the job of President at YSU and Akron each opened. He applied to both. Makes sense, as he has ties to both schools and cities. YSU is the school that gave him the opportunity to be an HC. and he had an amazing 15 year run at YSU. His wife is from Youngstown, and even when at TOSU, The Tressel's donated large sums of money to YSU.
Akron is where Tressel went to grad school and got his start as a college coach being a Graduate Assistant.
Tressel turned down many job offers when at YSU. I attended the 93 Title Game, and also taped it. When wwatching the game on tape, Jim Gray had Tressel getting onto a plane after the game, flying to Cincy and being announced as HC at Cincy. Then in like the 3rd qtr, Cincy announced they had hired a coach, and it was NOT Tressel.
In 95, the Miami(FL) job was his, if he wanted it. Miami was on probation at that time. Tress and his first wife were in the midst of a divorce. Taking the job at Miami would mean dealing with all one deals with when coaching at a school on probation, and it also would have meant being thousands of miles from his kids. The negatives outweighed the positives.
I remember when he was rumored to be taking the Marshall job when Donnan left. And, from what I know, it was his for the taking. He stayed at YSU. And, had the OSU job not opened, or he not been hired, Tress likely would have coached another 5,10 years at YSU, retire as HC and be full time Athletic Director. OSU was his dream job. He had the patience and self control to resist other offers, keep winning and growing the program at YSU in order to make himself a more viable candidate to one day be HC at TOSU.
As for UNLV, the leading candidate looks to be the current Head Coach at Bishop Gorman High School, which is ranked #1 in USA Today. They are the only Catholic High School in Vegas, play a national non-conference schedule, and have not lost to a school from Nevada in like 10 years.
HC Tony Sanchez is well liked in the community. He has connections to people with money, including the Fertitta Family, which owns Station Casinos and UFC(Ultimate Fighting Championship). The rumor going around town are the Fertitta Family paid the $400,000 to buyout Bobby Hauck's contract. Also, they plan to donate a minimum of $30 MILLION to UNLV Athletic Department if Sanchez is hired. UNLV has been sooooooooooooo bad for sooooooooooooo long in football, that this is just crazy enough to work. Hauck had 4 seasons with 2 wins, and last season UNLV went 7-6 and played in 1st bowl game since 2000. Pretty sure Sanchez can figure out a way to win 2 games.
Another popular choice is Jim Fassell. He lives here. He is older. The thinking is he might be interested, as it would be an opportunity to be an HC again, and he does not need to make large sums of money. Another name being tossed around now is the HC of UAB, as they just announced football is being dropped. Also, the HC of Coastal Carolina is popular among some people. He is a multi-millionaire. He has basically built the Coastal program from scratch. He coaches for the love of coaching, not the money, as he already made more money than he will ever need.
My prediction is Sanchez will be the next coach. I think the fix is in, and so do many other people. With those people being people alot more in the know than myself.
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I was just going to say ...what cause could Nebraska show?
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ysuhoops24,
The stadium is not as bad as you make it out to be. Also, it's not as if YSU fans flock to Stambaugh now that the program is just a mediocre FCS program. This is Vegas. Entertainment options are endless. It's not some small town with very little to do for entertainment. There is a push to build an on-campus stadium, but at this time it is cost prohibitive, and does not have the support of MGM, Caesars and other big players in the entertainment industry. Also, the planned site is in direct flight path of McCarran Int'l Airport, so it was nixed by the FAA. New site seems to be a large, barren parcel of land on E. Tropicana, a few blocks from the Strip. The problem, is cost estimates are ranging from $500,000 MILLION to almost $1 BILLION. This is Vegas, so a new stadium is going to have tons of bells and whistles. It is going to be a place able to hold large concerts and a host of other non-football events. And, building a brand new stadium that is not domed makes little sense. A large amount of the money would come from the taxpayers, and people here see that as a waste of money. I agree.
Las Vegas is the largest metro area in the US without a Medical School. Currently, students going to UNLV that want to be doctors take some of their classes at UNLV and some at UNR(what people outside this state call Nevada). Plans are in place for UNLV to finally have a medical school, and have the first class begin in Fall of 2016 or 2017. Board of Trustees are in favor. Gov. Sandoval is in favor. Only question at this point is State Legislature, which will decide in 2015. UNLV is also making a push to become a Tier 1 Research University. That costs alot of money. There are a plethora of proposed projects for the school, and they all require large sums of money. Also, many people here think it's time to drop football all together at UNLV. The thing is, people here are HUGE bandwagon fans. Start winning, and people will flock to Sam Boyd Stadium. As for being way out in the desert, well, Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. We do not have woods here. We do not have alot of trees, fields of grass....etc. So, if you get spaces that are undeveloped, they are desert. Also, Clark County Wetlands Park borders the Sam Boyd Stadium Property.
http://www.vegas.com/attractions/off-the-strip/clark-county-wetlands/
SBS is 4.5 miles from Downtown Henderson, a Vegas suburb with a population of 270,000+ ... SBS is 7.5 miles from UNLV. Far from ideal, but there is not alot in the way of space near UNLV. And, SBS is good enough to host the Las Vegas Bowl, a Rugby 7's World Series Event, Monster Energy AMA Supercross, Monster Jam World Finals(Monster Trucks), Monster Energy Cup. The stadium also plays host to soccer "friendlies". In 2012, Real Madrid played a team from Mexico. This March, Splatter Festival 2015 will be held at SBS. It is a 4 day music festival, which as of now will have Drake, Rhianna, Katy Perry, Nikki Manaj among the performers. Performers of this quality are not going to perform in a dump.
As for the practice facilities, they are not very good for an FBS program. And, not sure if you know this or not, but they are on campus, not at Sam Boyd Stadium. And, that is widely known here. The hope is an indoor facility can be built. But, things like this cost money. That is where Fertitta family comes in. Also, UNLV football is an after thought to many people here in Vegas. 75% of the population is transplants from other states and other countries. Many who have their alma maters or hometown schools that they still follow. Also, first and foremost, when it comes to sports, this RUNNIN REBEL TOWN. Basketball is king here. Tark's health is failing, but he still goes to as many games as possible. He is and always will be royalty here in Vegas.
And, the basketball facilities here are as good as ANY college. That is one reason the NBA Summer League is held at Thomas & Mack Center and the adjoining Cox Pavillion. Cox Pavillion has a gym that holds about 4,000 for basketball and volleyball. The womens basketball team plays their games there. On the first floor is a stae of the art practice facility, training room, and a host of other things. T&M is geting a major renovation over the next 1-2 years.
Also, here in Vegas, there is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much to do. Why pay to go watch lousy football, when there are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many other options entertainment wise?
UNLV has excellent facilities for all but football. Men's soccer played in NCAA Tournament this season. Women's Volleyball won MWC Title and will be playing in NCAA Tournament. Mens and Women's golf are both ranked in the top 20. Baseball earned an at-large bid to NCAA Tournament last season, and the baseball stadium is state of the art.
With all the bull$h!t that goes on at YSU, and decisions made based on nepotism and knowing the right people, not sure ripping on UNLV is a wise decision. York Family taking away scholarship they provided to a womens basketball player because Coach D was replaced. Keeping Slocum as HC. A "football school" that has made FCS playoffs 1 time in 14 years. And, while I think hiring Tressel as President was a great decision, it is not exactly viewed that way outside Ytown. It's looked at the same way you look at UNLV possibly hiring a high school coach to be HC of UNLV Football. Only, instead of football, Tressel is YSU PRESIDENT. And, everyone knows he got that job because of the people with $$$$$$$$ who wanted him hired and also what he did as football coach. Again, I like the hire, but if looking at it from a distance, it looks and seems ridiculous. And, again, that is UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT we are talking about, not Head Football Coach.
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I live in Las Vegas.
You are one lucky sumb****. We just returned from our first trip there. It probably was the most fun i've ever had anywhere.
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Penguin Nation,
Living here is much different than coming for a Vacation. Moved here at end of May 2012. First 4-5 months went to The Strip 4-5 times a week. We have gone maybe 2 times since Dec 2012. Us "locals" pretty much avoid that area at all costs. Well, alot of people work there, and people will go when family/friends are in town, to have a nice dinner on a special occasion or go to a show.
We live just a few miles East of the Strip, right on edge of UNLV campus. Seeing the strip lit up t night never gets old. But, any time we have to go to the West Side for something, it sucks dealing with the traqfficf on and near the Strip.
I like it here because of the diversity, the weather from Oct-late April(summer is brutal), relatively low cost of living for city this size, much more of live and let live attitude than back in Ytown/Cleveland/Pittsburgh...etc. Not sure there is anything such as "normal" here. And, get away from The Strip, and it is pretty much like any other city this size. The 24/7 thing is just The Strip, few blocks to East and West of Strip and then Downtown. Although, there is no "final call" here, and one can buy alcohol at CVS, Walgreen's, grocery stores...etc. And, not just beer and wine, but ANY type of alcohol. Also slot machines in places like grocery stores, convenient stores, Dollar General...etc. I wouldn't trust the machines in those kind of places
Interestingly, all the years in Ytown/Warren helped prepare me well for Vegas. I'm not like OMG, there is crime, corruption, gangs, people selling drugs...etc. Yea, I know, experienced all that in Ytown. Per capita, hard to beat Ytown for that type of thing, especially the corruption. I like Vegas, but would not want to live in any other part of Nevada. We are kind of like our own state here. Metro area population is about 2 MILLION. Clark County population about 2.2 MILLION. Entire population of Nevada is about 3 MILLION.
Glad to hear you enjoyed your vacation. Not sure there is any place like Vegas in the world. Doesn't mean it is the best place, just that Vegas is Vegas.
This is for everyone, curious what you think. There are 3 multi-team basketball tournaments here in Vegas. Teams play 2 games at campus sites, then 2 games here. I think it one of these would be nice tournament for YSU. Two are in November(they were last week). The 3rd is a few days before Christmas. I think it would be nice trip for the team. And, tournaments are the kind where there are 4 so called "big programs", and then 4 mid-major type teams. UWM played in one of the tournaments this year. Also, UNLV plays 5-6 mid major to lower major OOC games in basketball. This year, they have already played Morehead State and Albany. Morehead State is/was also in one of the tournaments played here. So, how about a road game in Vegas for YSU in basketball? Could even make it part of a 2 game trip, with the 2nd game being Southern Utah, Northern Arizona, UNR, or school in California. Then, that school plays return game in Ytown the following season.
And, in football, UNLV typically plays an FCS opponent. Last year, they played WIU. 2015 still has one opening, as current OOC games are at NIU at Michigan(getting paid $1 MILLION) and UCLA at home. Most likely looking for FCS team for the 4th OOC game.... 2016 they play at UCLA, at CMU, Idaho at home....2017 Arkansas State here, at Idaho at Ohio State($1.3 MILLION payday).... either 16 or 17, they will also play BYU here in Vegas. In 16, UNLV plays at Hawaii, so they can schedule 13 games. Which would mean still looking for another game.... 2018 only 1 game scheduled...at Arkansas State... 2019 nothing as of now... 2020 at Iowa State and LA TECH here...2021 Iowa State at home..... I'm not sure what UNLV pays as far as a guarantee. Also not sure when next season is that YSU can play 12 games. But, UNLV would be nice trip for players and fans. And, barring a miraculous turnaround with the new HC a very winnable game. My thinking is game at UNLV along with a $$$$$$$ game, then say Duquesne and Robert Morris, Butler, Valpo(pick one at home). Highly possible to go 3-1, win over FBS team and great road trip. Wait, makes too much sense :'(
UNLV beat Northern Colorado 13-12 this year
In 2012, they lost to Northern Arizona
In 2011, lost to Southern Utah
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Let's Talk,
I know what you mean. We live on an island in FL, but haven't gone to the beach in over a year.
While in Vegas, we were able to see Hoover Dam, the Grand Canyon, Sedona, and Valley of Fire (or something like that). Lots to do there. Glad you are happy there.
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Valley of Fire is amazing.... Glad to hear you got to see more than just the Strip. This is such a beautiful part of the country. We drove from Ytown to Vegas. Trip was boring until we got West of Denver. Then, the rest of the way was OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..... Rocky Mountains, then desert mountains most of way in Utah, then Virgin River Gorge in Arizona, Valley of Fire.
We do not have a car, so have not been able to get to the places not serviced by public transit. Mountains are breathtaking, even after 2 1/2 years. Nice in winter to see snow on mountains, but it be 50's or 60's here in the valley. Definitely much, much different in a host of ways from back East.
So, any thoughts on my idea about YSU playing in a basketball tournament that has games in Vegas, playing UNLV in basketball or even in football. Also, womens team could play UNLV in basketball. MWC is better than HL on men's side, but for the women, HL is as good or better than MWC, and UNLV is about middle of the pack. Another reason I propose this, is because there is a wealth of talented athletes here in Vegas. Also could recruit Arizona and Cali while out here. And, both of those states have loads of high school talent, plus plenty of JUCO's. I think people who could afford to make the trip would come, and then there are the people who either went to YSU or are from Ytown area that now live here, Cali, Phoenix...etc.
I know former YSU President Cynthia Anderson lives in Boulder City, which is maybe 20-25 miles from Vegas. She hosted an Alumni get together at her house either earlier this year, or late last year. Got the invite from Alumni Association
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Funny, Les Cochran lives near us in FL, and just ran for the Board of Education.
The tournament sounds like an improvement as the MBB OOC schedule has the likes of Wilberforce and Thiel. I do think such a tournament would draw interest to the YSU MBB program, and fans may even follow the team there due to the uniqueness of the location.
As an aside, idk why there isn't an Allegiant direct flight from YNG to McCarren. My understanding is that Allegiant's HQ is in Vegas. There are multiple cities here in FL (I think four) that have direct service to YNG, and the flights are packed whenever I take them. Seems like YNG-McCarren would be popular...as the Austintown Racino just doesn't offer enough gaming.
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Yes, Allegiant is based in Vegas. I see their planes alot, as we live close enough to airport to read name of airline on the planes when flying over our apartment complex.
I agree about it being odd that there are no flights from Vegas to Y-town, especially with Allegiant already having flights out of Ytown/Warren and headquarters being in Vegas.
Cool story about Les Cochran.
Football may well not make sense as far as YSU at UNLV, because I'm guessing UNLV only pays guarantee about same as schools in MAC. But, basketball, I think it makes total sense. Especially a 4 game tournament, where 2 games are at campus sites, then 2 here.
MGM Grand Event (Vegas games at MGM Grand Garden Arena
Campus Site Games
Nov. 14 Milwaukee at Auburn, 10 p.m. (ESPNU)
Nov. 15 Tulsa at Oral Roberts, 8 p.m. (ESPN3)
Nov. 17 Louisiana-Lafayette at Tulsa, 9:30 p.m. (ESPN3)
Nov. 21 Milwaukee at Oklahoma State, 8 p.m. (Cowboy Sports Network)
Louisiana-Lafayette at Auburn, 9 p.m. (SEC on FSN)
Oral Roberts at Oregon State, 9 p.m. (Pac-12 Network Oregon)
Middleweight Round-Robin
Nov. 24 Milwaukee vs. Louisiana-Lafayette, 6 p.m.
Nov. 25 Louisiana-Lafayette vs. Oral Roberts, 9 p.m.
Nov. 26 Oral Roberts vs. Milwaukee, 4 p.m.
Heavyweight Semifinals
(Nov. 24)
Oklahoma State vs. Oregon State, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN3)
Auburn vs. Tulsa, approx. 11 p.m. (ESPNU)
Heavyweight Finals
(Nov. 26)
Consolation, 9 p.m. (ESPN3)
Championship, approx. 11:30 p.m. (ESPN2)
Las Vegas Invitational (Vegas games played at Orleans Arena
Campus Site Games
Nov. 21
Prairie View at Baylor (FS Southwest/FCS Atlantic)
Austin Peay at Illinois, 8 p.m. (ESPN3)
Nov. 22
Brown at Indiana State, 7 p.m.
Nov. 24
Stephen F. Austin at Baylor (FS Southwest/FCS Pacific)
Austin Peay at Indiana State, 6:30 p.m.
Brown at Illinois, 8 p.m. (ESPN3)
Prairie View at Memphis, 8 p.m. (ESPN3)
Dec. 2
Stephen F. Austin at Memphis, 7 p.m. (ESPNews)
Visitors' Semifinals
(Nov. 27)
Austin Peay vs. Brown, 2 p.m.
Stephen F. Austin vs. Prairie View, 9 p.m.
Hosts' Semifinals
(Nov. 27)
Indiana State vs. Illinois, 5 p.m. (FS1)
Baylor vs. Memphis, approx. 12 a.m. (FS1)
Visitors' Finals
(Nov. 28)
Consolation, 2:30 p.m.
Championship, approx. 5 p.m.
Hosts' Finals
(Nov. 28)
Consolation, 8 p.m. (FS1)
Championship, approx. 10:30 p.m. (FS1)
Las Vegas Classic:(Vegas games played at Orleans Arena)
Campus Site Games
Dec. 14 Southern Utah at Boise State, 6:30 p.m.
Dec. 17 Arkansas-Pine Bluff at Houston, 8 p.m. (ESPN3)
Abilene Christian at Loyola of Chicago, 8 p.m.
South Carolina State at Texas Tech, 8 p.m. (Red Raider Sports/FCS Central)
Dec. 19 South Carolina State at Houston, 8 p.m. (ESPN3)
Southern Utah at Loyola of Chicago, 8 p.m.
Arkansas-Pine Bluff at Texas Tech, 8 p.m. (Red Raider Sports/FS SW Plus/FCS Central)
Dec. 20 Abilene Christian at Boise State, 1 p.m.
Visitors' Semifinals
(Dec. 22)
Arkansas-Pine Bluff at Southern Utah, 3 p.m.
Abilene Christian vs. South Carolina State, approx. 5:30 p.m.
Hosts' Semifinals
(Dec. 22)
Texas Tech vs. Loyola of Chicago, 8 p.m.
Houston vs. Boise State, approx. 10:30 p.m.
Visitors' Finals
(Dec. 23)
Consolation, 3:30 p.m.
Championship, approx. 6 p.m.
Hosts' Finals
(Dec. 23)
Consolation, 9 p.m. (FS1)
Championship, approx. 11:30 p.m. (FS1)
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Don't sugar coat it, Sam Boyd is a dump, lol. I was there for the start of the 2012 season to watch my Gophers open up.
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Sam Boyd Stadium is far from the best stadium in FBS. It is also not the worst. Another thing to consider is the stadium was first built in 1971. There have been improvements made since you were there in 2012. A new scoreboard was installed in 2014. It is twice the size of the old scoreboard, and is digital. Easy to see and read, unlike the main scoreboard when you were there in 2012.
Landscaping stones and grass were also added around the locker room buildings at the open end of the stadium and interior walls of the club section were painted. I now it's not much, but it's better than nothing. With funding from the state legislature for the proposed new stadium project shelved until at least 2017, UNLV is faced with an unenviable situation. The long term goal is a new stadium. But, the current stadium is in need of upgrades. The parking areas are awful, especially the gravel/chunks of concrete/chunks of blacktop/chunks of who knows what area. With us getting so little rain, having grass parking areas is not a problem. It rained yesterday and is raining today. First rain since Sept 28th.
Getting in and out of the parking lots is a nightmare. The stadium is in a residential area, bordered by the wetlands park and not too far away a mountain. Not sure there is much of anything that can be done about that? I do know that RTC(public transit) built a new terminal on the UNLV Campus. Students can purchase a round trip bus ticket to SBS for a cost of $4. For non students, the standard fare of $2.00 for one way ticket or $5 for all day pass apply. This is a special route just for game days. It is an express route, and takes 15-20 minutes. There is a regular, fixed route that goes near the stadium, but this is separate from that route.
This route is the 602. This route has only a few stops for people to get on/off, so probably takes 20-25 minutes at most if going from The Strip. Route goes from SBS to the intersection of E Tropicana and Las Vegas Blvd(intersection where MGM, NY-NY, Excalibur are located). It does a small loop near LV Blvd that takes it dow to Mandalay Bay. There are 14 stops, which seems like alot. However, all but 3 of the stops are between UNLV Campus and the strip. If going from The Strip, once past UNLV campus, the 3 stops are all in the area near SBS, including one right in front of the stadium. Reason for the stops between UNLV Transit Center and Strip are for connecting bus routes. This eliminates the issue of parking and getting out of the stadium after the game, and also means if one drinks to much alcohol at the game, no concerns over driving while intoxicated
There is another route that has only 3 stops, but runs in a loop and does not come anywhere near UNLV or the Strip.
The stadium could use new seats, as what they have now are very hard and worn out. At least they have backs though on the bleacher seats. There is not a bad spot in the stadium from which to watch the game. Concessions are not great, but reasonably priced. Bathrooms, as with many older stadiums could use upgrades. The problem is all of the things I've mentioned would run into the millions of $$. And, if an on campus stadium does get built, SBS could well be torn down. Especially with the plan being to have the new stadium be a multi-use stadium.
UNLV is in the process of a $50-60 MILLION renovation of Thomas & Mack Center, which was built in the early 80's. As in many states, the way public education is funded in Nevada is outdated. It also favors the Northern part of the state for K-12, as they use a funding model from like the 70's, when Las Vegas had about the same population as Ytown. And, as far as funding when it comes to the 2 public, 4 year colleges, UNR is favored over UNLV. We may as well be our own state here in Clark County. 2.2 MILLION people in a state with population of $3 MILLION. And, a little over 2 MILLION people live in Las Vegas Metro area.
As far as hiring Sanchez, when this idea was first floated, my reaction was similar to yours. I even used the Gerry Faust fiasco at ND and Akron on the UNLV message board as an example why this is a bad idea. Sanchez is a good comparison to Faust, because he is at a Catholic School that dominates high school football in Nevada. Their facilities are on par with alot of FCS and some FBS schools. The exception would be capacity of football stadium(about 6,000) and gymnasium. The school building used now is at most 5 years old. Money is not an issue at BG for their sports teams. And, they recruit. Part of the recruiting is done by the program. Snoop Dogg moved to Vegas this summer so his son, Cordell Broadus could attend BG this year. He did so to get more exposure from college coaches.
BG now plays 6 out of state teams, and then the 4 games required against teams in their section. BG is ranked #1 by both MaxPreps and USA Today. Have not lost to a team from Nevada in 6 years. And, they are equally as good in basketball, and just about every sport. Inbee Park, the #1 ranked player on the LPGA Tour is a graduate of Gorman. This year, they played the following 6 teams non-conference:
Brophy College Prep(Phoenix, AZ)....Gorman won 44-0... Brophy is 10-4, ranked 6th in Arizona and 231 Nationally by Max Preps
@ Servite(CA) won 48-27...Servits is down this year and finished 4-7...ranked #26 in Cali and #259 Nationally
Bingham High School (Utah, in Salt Lake area...Gorman won 23-20.... Bingham is 13-1...ranked 15th Nationally by Max Preps and #1 in Utah
Centennial (Corona, CA)...won 43-42.... Centennial is 11-2....ranked #8 Nationally by Max Preps and #2 in Cali
Santa Margarita(Santa Margarita, CA).... BG won 41-10... Margarit finished 6-5...ranked #23 in CA and #218 Nationally
ST, John Bosco(Bellflower, CA)...BG won 34-31.... Bosco is 12-1.... #1 in CA and #4 Nationally
Sanchez has been HC at Gorman since 2009...record is 70-4
I'm telling you all of this, because you started the thread, and this is relevant to the thread. Bobby Hauck had 9 very successful years at Montana. In 5 years at UNLV, had 4 seasons of 2 wins, and last years miracle season of 7-6 with loss in Heart of Dallas Bowl.... HC before him was Mike Sanford, current HC of Indy State. His overal record was 8-32 in 5 years... most games won in a season was 3.
So, how can things possibly get worse for UNLV football bu hiring Sanchez? Especially if it means TENS of MILLIONS of $$$$$$$ donated by the Fertitta family to UNLV? There aren’t many people in Las Vegas with more money than the Fertitta family. According to Forbes they are estimated to be worth $2.6 billion, and are the 89th richest family in the country. If Sanchez is a flop, then he is gone in 4-5 years. But, all the money donated, and everything done with the money remains at UNLV. Sanchez is well liked in the community, has alot of contacts, and he knows how to recruit. Yes, recruiting for high school is different than for FBS college, but it is still recruiting. Also, I hear coaches and players say all the time that "football is football". Sanchez has also coached in Texas, California and New Mexico.
Here is a link to the facility BG built with money donated by the Fertitta Family. Not hard at all to see why UNLV would be willing to hire Sanchez, if it means money for facility upgrades.
http://www.bggaelsfootball.com/football-gormans-new-facility-trumps-even-universities
..."Funded solely by the donations of the Fertitta brothers -- Frank and Lorenzo are Gorman graduates, heirs to their father's Station Casinos business and UFC owners -- Gorman's 41,324-square-foot athletic training center opened in July.The facility features a 90-seat classroom for game film study, a hydrotherapy pool and ice bath, an 11,500-square-foot weight room with an indoor four-lane, 60-yard track and a locker room that puts to shame those of the Rebels and Wolf Pack. The second floor hosts banquets and houses the championship trophies. It also features a balcony that overlooks the football field. A 40-yard digital LED board hangs from the balcony. At the donors' request, Gorman officials have not released the project's cost. The final price tag for the athletic training facility is rumored to be in the $20 million range."...
Images of BG's stadium and training facility
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ysuhoops24,
I know you like tennis. Here is the UNLV Tennis Facility, which was paid for by the Fertitta family, and named after the parents. Not trying to sell you on UNLV, as much as selling you on why so many people here think hiring Sanchez just might be crazy enough to work. Plus, this is Vegas...We do things different here in Vegas 8)
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This pic has the practice football fields in foreground and tennis court in background.... 2 full length turf fields, and a grass field of about 50-60 yards..not great, but not awful either... definitely need indoor facility though
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Plus, what the UNLV basketball team appreciated for years & the NCAA did not ..."what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" 8)
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Actually, what happens in Vegas rarely stays in Vegas, because people that come here for vacation tend to post their exploits on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram....etc.
As for Tark, while he was not a saint, the NCAA did not like him because he would not allow them to bully him. And, ultimately, the UNLV Administration turned on Tark. Those teams of the late 70's, 80's and early 90's are the only reason many people even knew there was a University here in Las Vegas. There likely would not be a Thomas & Mack Center if not for Tark.UNLV used to be referred to as Tumbleweed Tech before Tark put the school on the map.
Tarks battle with the NCAA goes all the way back to the 60's, when he wrote op-ed pieces in the Long Beach Newspaper about the hypocrisy of the NCAA. Most notably, the way the NCAA selectively chooses the schools to punish, and also the punishments. Tark even appeared before the US Supreme Court, where the court said that the N.C.A.A.’s treatment of him was “constitutionally inadequate” but ruled against him because the N.C.A.A. was a private organization.
I have little doubt UNLV mens basketball was breaking NCAA rules while Tark was HC. Heck, they are probably breaking NCAA rules now. The question is, to what degree, and did the NCAA have it out to dig up every possible piece of dirt on Tark, while overlooking similar things going on at other schools.
Something that rarely gets mentioned is the rate at which his players graduated. As you know, he made UNLV a refugee for guys in need/want of 2nd or 3rd chances. Players who played for Tark graduated at a rate higher than the UNLV average. At the time Tark retired, the graduation rate for his players was 50%. Not great, but about average for NCAA programs. And, while several players did flunk out or drop out, many left UNLV to go and play professionally. In 2012, the 6 year graduation rate for ALL college students in the United States was 56%. So, 50% for a so called "rogue program" on which the players were treated as celebrities by not just the people of Vegas, but by people like Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr,
To me, Tark was alot like Tressel, only without the Mr. Rogers/Choir Boy image. They each were willing to give guys 2nd and 3rd chances. If players listened to them, and showed that they were trying to do right, they were supported. Sometimes, supported to a fault. They were more than coaches to many of their players. They were friends, brothers, uncles, probation officers, teachers. And, both will unfortunately be known for the mistakes they made, rather than all the kids they helped, the lives they changed and the success of their teams.
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UNLV has a beautiful baseball stadium as well. The improvments you said, I know exactly what you are talking about the enterence by the locker rooms and what not....that's where we entered from after a long hot day of tailgating and remember thinking what a dump lol. You are right though, not the best but not the worse.
Awesome pictures of the football facility of that high school...just wow, it blows my mind. I knew that family donated a bunch of money for that tennis facility, seen that in articles on the UNLV search (I've kept an eye on UNLV since going out to that game, the Rebel fans were very good to us in the tailgate lot so I always pull for them now).
Great to see them figuring out transportation to the game. When the wife and I flew out, we had no clue what to do getting to the game and were looking into bussing or any other option. Luckily the gopher website I go to (gopherhole) we had a meetup in Vegas and some Gopher fans had an extra spot on a hug conversion van so we chipped in on it, went and got a bunch of beer and chipped in on a tailgate pass.
We are hoping to get to Vegas again soon. So if I make it in, look out for some YSU gear :) My wife swam at YSU and knows some people who swims at UNLV so we want go check out that facility. She's now the head coach at Hubbard so looks like I will be at some HS swim meets this year. :/
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Mike Riley from Oregon State to Nebraska.
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hoops24,
There is supposed to be an announcement on Saturday in regards to next HC at UNLV. Sanchez is denying all of the rumors, but Bishop Gorman plays in State Championship Game on Saturday day afternoon. Kind of odd UNLV would have an announcement about the new HC scheduled for AFTER the Gorman game has ended, and Sanchez not be named HC. There are alot of people here that want Jim Fassel as the next HC. He lives here, has alot of experience, and has said he would be interested in the job. Everything just seems to point to Sanchez already having the job. If it is true about the amount of money the Fertitta family is rumored to be willing to donate to UNLV, can't say I blame the AD for going with Sanchez. It's not like the program can get worse on the field, and Sanchez might actually be able to convince more kids from Vegas area to go to UNLV rather than other schools. Also, if anything, attendance would likely increase with Sanchez as HC, at least to start.From there, it would depend on how team does off the field. Either way, UNLV would most likely be looking for a new HC in another 4-5 years. Given past history, likely scenario would be to replace a coach fired or who resigned. And, if someone gets hired, can have 2-3 winning seasons in a row, they would likely get hired away by a school in a higher profile conference that pays more. The HC at Colorado State is leaving to take the job at Florida. This was only his 3rd season at CSU.
We live right on the edge of campus. Can see the baseball stadium lights from out apartment. Same wit hte lights of practice football field and soccer field. There is a UNLV academic building behind our apartment complex, one next to out complex and further down the road a UNLV parking deck.
We go walking alot back in the area where the baseball stadium, soccer fields, track, tennis courts, natatorium and softball fields are located. The baseball stadium is very nice. It would have been demolished if the original stadium plans had come to fruition, as that is the area the football stadium was to be built. Baseball stadium, track, softball stadium and not sure what else all would have then been moved to a parcel of land near corner of Trpicana Ave and Swenson.
I've never been in the natatorium, but from what I know it is pretty nice. Actually, with the exception of Sam Boyd Stadium, all the athletic facilities at UNLV are rather good. Football practice area could be better, but there are 2 turf fields and one grass field, and entire area has lights so team can practice at night. An indoor facility would really help, given how hot it gets here in the summer and early fall. Plus, that is the type of thing recruits look for when deciding on a school.
UNLV men had people qualify for NCAA Finals in several events this past season. From what I know, men's program seems to be better than womens program. There have been changes to the Strip since you were here in 2012. And if you wanted to stay off strip but still be close to the strip, there is an off strip hotel/casino not far from the campus you might want to look into. It is called Silver 7's. Used to be called Terrible's. It's at corner of Flamingo and Paradise.
About 20 minute walk to Strip, or you can ride bus. First 4-5 months after moving here, we walked from a Starbucks near Silver 7's to the Strip 4-5 times a week, typically around 11:30pm - 12:30am. Never had any problems, as road has high volume of traffic, and there are always people out walking on Flamingo. Also more than one business open 24/7, including another hotel/casino called Tuscany. And, for future reference, Tropicana bus runs 24/7, and there are 2 buses on The Strip that go Downtown. Duece on The Strip runs 24/7(every 15 minutes from 7AM-2AM, every 20 minutes 2AM-7AM) and goes from Freemont Experience in Downtown to South Strip Terminal, which is just past LV Premium Oulets(South location)... The other bus is SDX and it runs from 9am-Midnight(every 15 minutes). Goes from Premium Oulets North(downtown area) to South Strip Terminal. Whenever possible, I'd recommend the buses or walking instead of a taxi. Also, it is illegal in Vegas to hail a cab. I have no idea why? Never heard of anything like that until moving here. If/when you are getting ready to come back out, you can send me a private message if you want.
It's not a huge place, and being off the strip rates are likely lower. Has a hotel, plus casino and there is a sportsbook in the casino. There are 2 restaurants, open 24 hours, with 1 being a buffet. Another open from 5pm-9pm Friday-Saturday It's about a 10 minute walk at most from Silver 7's to Hard Rock Hotel/Casino. Probably 15-20 minute walk max to UNLV Natatorium. If you took bus to the strip, it would be 5-10 minutes, and you would get off at intersection where Caesar's Palace, Bellagio and Bally's are located. Bill's Gambling Hall was totally renovated and renamed, and Caesars has built a 550 foot tall observation wheel, plus area called The Linq, which has stores, restaurants and more.
http://www.silversevenscasino.com/
Good luck to your wife with coaching. I remember when she swam for YSU.
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Sanchez to UNLV may not be a done deal just yet. Maloof brothers are loaded with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Maloofs support June Jones for UNLV job
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv-rebels/football/maloofs-support-june-jones-unlv-job
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Hey Talk,
If the rich guys that lose this power struggle become disaffected with UNLV, inform them that there is a school back east that would welcome their input (and their money.) Heck, tell them that school would even name a building or two in their honor for the proper level of contribution. :P
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Wick250... LOL
One of the Fertitta brothers has a son who is going to Notre Dame next year on a football scholarship. So,cI'm guessing ND will be getting money from the family.
This whole thing is turning into a huge fiasco. The AD has had phone interviews with June Jones, Ed Orgeron and Houston Nutt, and met in person with Jim Fassel. Meeting in person with Fasel is nothing special, given he lives in Vegas metro area.
Maloof are being tight lipped as far as money being given to UNLV in addition donations they already make. Same with Fertitta family. Sanchez is denying he is going to be the next HC. As you can see, the names mentioned are all retreads, and then a guy with no college coaching experience. Bobby Hauck's total compensation package when first hired was $350,000. As you can see, UNLV does not pay much compared to other FBS schools.
Earlier in the week, the local CBS affiliate posted on their website that Sanchez was going to be hired by UNLV. The school came out and refuted the story, as did Sanchez.
My personal feeling is UNLV would be wise to drop to FCS. Not many seem to agree.
If Sanchez does indeed get hired, the Fertitta family had better come through with Tens of Millions of $$$$$, or the AD will be a laughing stock.