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I thought this might be a good topic to discuss after their show on Wednesday's. Today's guests will be Derrick Rivers and Hunter Wells
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Is there a link to this? When does this take place?
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Is there a link to this? When does this take place?
Every Wednesday morning from 8 to 9 am. (They are off next week for Spring Break but will return in two weeks.)
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Hate to be this dumb, but what station?
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Hate to be this dumb, but what station?
http://www.rookeryradio.com/
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To listen to this show your device must have Adobe flash player. I can't listen on my smart phone but I can on my computer. Ricky and Jeff were born to do this and both are extremely funny. They started off the show talking about coach Pepe Pearson joining the Marshall staff and what his son might do. They also mentioned about the possibility of a former Nebraska Quarterback becoming the new TE coach. Wells has gotten much stronger and has his weight up to a solid 225 pounds. Wells said his biggest challenge will be raising his standard of play and admitted that his mechanics slipped up last season and he didn't prepare the way he needed to at times. He also added that the staff has taken the necessary steps for success this season. When ask about the offense he said the coaches are incorporating more of a run with the quarterback for this season. Derek is very level headed and humble. He doesn't really go into depth with his answers, but his actions on the field speak louder then his words. He fully understands the NFL is right around the corner for him and is ready for the challenge. He wants a big year at YSU before that happens
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To listen to this show your device must have Adobe flash player. I can't listen on my smart phone but I can on my computer. Ricky and Jeff were born to do this and both are extremely funny. They started off the show talking about coach Pepe Pearson joining the Marshall staff and what his son might do. They also mentioned about the possibility of a former Nebraska Quarterback becoming the new TE coach. Wells has gotten much stronger and has his weight up to a solid 225 pounds. Wells said his biggest challenge will be raising his standard of play and admitted that his mechanics slipped up last season and he didn't prepare the way he needed to at times. He also added that the staff has taken the necessary steps for success this season. When ask about the offense he said the coaches are incorporating more of a run with the quarterback for this season. Derek is very level headed and humble. He doesn't really go into depth with his answers, but his actions on the field speak louder then his words. He fully understands the NFL is right around the corner for him and is ready for the challenge. He wants a big year at YSU before that happens
Well that should give Hosick a leg up on him.
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I'm not in favor of this chief, but I think we will see a two quarterback system again this year similar to last year
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FEVER, I disagree. I don't think we will we will have 2 qbs in a regular rotation. They'll pick on and he'll play. It will come down to how much better is Wells with the added weight and conditioning vs. how good can Hosick throw. But spring will be a "winner take all" contest. Davis will be out of the equation as he can't run as good as Hosick or throw as good as Wells, so he has nothing to offer.
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FEVER, I disagree. I don't think we will we will have 2 qbs in a regular rotation. They'll pick on and he'll play. It will come down to how much better is Wells with the added weight and conditioning vs. how good can Hosick throw. But spring will be a "winner take all" contest. Davis will be out of the equation as he can't run as good as Hosick or throw as good as Wells, so he has nothing to offer.
Wait, if Davis can throw better than Hosick and run better than Wells, he could still be in the equation.
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Bo has had a running quarterback his entire coaching career. He wants desperately to have a quarterback that can throw on the run, be a strong pocket passer, and also make good decisions. Trent has shown the ability to do that with good accuracy out of the pocket on film. What he does in the pocket will be the big QUESTION MARK..very hard to find both on this level
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I missed the program this am, dammit. I wish they would have podcasts available of it.
Well's shortcomings weren't conditioning or weight. It was his lack of mobility, compensating for that by making desperate and risky throws into coverage, and being a 1-read QB. Maybe he can improve the last two, but mobility just isn't in his tool kit. If that's the direction the offense is going, then he's not a part of it.
We don't know enough to judge Davis's passing ability, because he was (inexplicably) never allowed to do it, and he directly said that on last week's show.
Frankly, I'm fired up about Hosick. After he passed up offers from BYU and San Diego State, he explained it this way:
“I want to play for a coach who cares about winning as much as I do,” Hosick said. “You’d be surprised at how hard that is to actually find. A lot of people are just satisfied with going to bowl games. That’s not what I’m here for. The goal should be a national title.”
http://www.yumasun.com/sports/awc-qb-hosick-back-for-second-season/article_05cc18ea-e28a-11e4-bf77-6f01eacc72e6.html
The 2 QB system last year was begun out of desperation when the consequences of Well's lack of mobility was evident. There was actually a Jambar article suggesting it, and the next week it was in place. I don't think a two QB system will be considered unless Hosick fails to impress, and if there is a two QB system, and they are looking for mobility, then it would make sense it would be Hosick and Davis. Wells is prolly too immobile to be switched to another position, so I'd make him a reserve QB and give him snaps during junk time.
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I missed the program this am, dammit. I wish they would have podcasts available of it.
Well's shortcomings weren't conditioning or weight. It was his lack of mobility, compensating for that by making desperate and risky throws into coverage, and being a 1-read QB. Maybe he can improve the last two, but mobility just isn't in his tool kit. If that's the direction the offense is going, then he's not a part of it.
We don't know enough to judge Davis's passing ability, because he was (inexplicably) never allowed to do it, and he directly said that on last week's show.
Frankly, I'm fired up about Hosick. After he passed up offers from BYU and San Diego State, he explained it this way:
“I want to play for a coach who cares about winning as much as I do,” Hosick said. “You’d be surprised at how hard that is to actually find. A lot of people are just satisfied with going to bowl games. That’s not what I’m here for. The goal should be a national title.”
http://www.yumasun.com/sports/awc-qb-hosick-back-for-second-season/article_05cc18ea-e28a-11e4-bf77-6f01eacc72e6.html
The 2 QB system last year was begun out of desperation when the consequences of Well's lack of mobility was evident. There was actually a Jambar article suggesting it, and the next week it was in place. I don't think a two QB system will be considered unless Hosick fails to impress, and if there is a two QB system, and they are looking for mobility, then it would make sense it would be Hosick and Davis. Wells is prolly too immobile to be switched to another position, so I'd make him a reserve QB and give him snaps during junk time.
I was done with him when he did the pussified slide short of the first down. He should have leaned forward and taken the hit and gotten it at all costs. how can he say that he didn't prepare well enough when we were a whisker away from being a national title contender? He is the leader of the team on offense and this is what we get. Ready to move on.
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I missed the program this am, dammit. I wish they would have podcasts available of it.
Well's shortcomings weren't conditioning or weight. It was his lack of mobility, compensating for that by making desperate and risky throws into coverage, and being a 1-read QB. Maybe he can improve the last two, but mobility just isn't in his tool kit. If that's the direction the offense is going, then he's not a part of it.
We don't know enough to judge Davis's passing ability, because he was (inexplicably) never allowed to do it, and he directly said that on last week's show.
Frankly, I'm fired up about Hosick. After he passed up offers from BYU and San Diego State, he explained it this way:
“I want to play for a coach who cares about winning as much as I do,” Hosick said. “You’d be surprised at how hard that is to actually find. A lot of people are just satisfied with going to bowl games. That’s not what I’m here for. The goal should be a national title.”
http://www.yumasun.com/sports/awc-qb-hosick-back-for-second-season/article_05cc18ea-e28a-11e4-bf77-6f01eacc72e6.html
The 2 QB system last year was begun out of desperation when the consequences of Well's lack of mobility was evident. There was actually a Jambar article suggesting it, and the next week it was in place. I don't think a two QB system will be considered unless Hosick fails to impress, and if there is a two QB system, and they are looking for mobility, then it would make sense it would be Hosick and Davis. Wells is prolly too immobile to be switched to another position, so I'd make him a reserve QB and give him snaps during junk time.
I was done with him when he did the pussified slide short of the first down. He should have leaned forward and taken the hit and gotten it at all costs. how can he say that he didn't prepare well enough when we were a whisker away from being a national title contender? He is the leader of the team on offense and this is what we get. Ready to move on.
Agree. If you don't want to take a hit, then maybe tennis or bowling would be choices more suited for him. We needed full effort from everyone. It was painful to watch. If he wants to play FB, I think the best outcome would be a 1AAA school or D2.
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Montgomery never wanted Wells to run in the first place. If he were to go down with a injury then what? If your not used to being a running quarterback it's easy said then done. Wells was recruited to throw at YSU not run. I think he's a good enough runner to pick up yardage when needed and keep defenses honest. If you have a solid line, a strong running game (with one power back) and a strong group of receivers that can catch there is know need for a mobile QB. You could take more chances with your starter if you felt just as comfortable about the back-up starting. That hasn't been a luxury YSU has had as of late
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We have beat this subject to death. Wells could have left but in his own words didn't play and didn't prepare last year to get any better. In his defense again how many balls were dropped and how many all conference lineman protected him. The lines underachieved the wide receivers underachieved and the loss of Adams hurt as well at TE. As for Davis not getting to throw that's BS. He has had what 3 yrs to show what he can do. That's run and its average at best. Let's see if Wells can improve and Let's see what Hosick is the messiah everybody wants.
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It sounds like information in this radio show is contradicting previous statements by Pelini and other coaching staff?
I was under the impression Pelini said he was going to let Montgomery run his offense. That isn't the case though if we are really looking for a more mobile QB just because of Pelini. Not complaining, just pointing out an inconsistency?
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Yo-sources close to Shane tell me it was something he didn't necessarily want
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Why would BP keep Shane if Shane's offense differs than BP's? With BP's connections, surely he could find an OC/QB coach that fits his planned offensive scheme?
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It is not something that I necessarily wanted either, but there will be two new QB's by summer (at least 1). I still see Wells taking the snaps in fall, but I also feel that Hocksick has a great opportunity. Fever and Go said it best ...does coach Shane really want a running QB? I don't think so, but it is what it is. I have other areas of greater concern than our QB.
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It is not something that I necessarily wanted either, but there will be two new QB's by summer (at least 1). I still see Wells taking the snaps in fall, but I also feel that Hocksick has a great opportunity. Fever and Go said it best ...does coach Shane really want a running QB? I don't think so, but it is what it is. I have other areas of greater concern than our QB.
I have no trouble believing the Montgomery doesn't want a "run first" QB, but I believe ANY OC would rather have a QB that "can run" rather than a stationary target that Wells was last year. We really don't know how Hosick plays, but his ability to run exceeds either of our returners and we really don't know about passing, but I suspect he ability to throw exceeds what either Wells or Davis did last year. Maybe Wells does pick up the challenge and steps up his game, or maybe Hosick beats them out, but either way, we should be better.
For years under Wolford we had good offenses, and couldn’t stop anybody. Now we have a MUCH better defense and can’t score! Maybe, just maybe, we can get enough of both this year. D should be even better, and Hrynkiewicz at center could be big addition up front. IMO, one of the keys to success this year is Ryan Moore, and can he play.
Does anybody know if Pearson is staying? He looks like great replacement for Stubbs.
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I agree go guins, regardless of what happens we will be better at that position. In Bo's first press conference on Hosick as a runner he said ( The added dimension is great..I would take it over not having it ) I believe this Quarterback competition will come down to whoever is the better passer..I don't think it will be decided in the spring..I look for it to last all through the fall camp and a decision to be made just prior to the West Virginia game. Ryan Moore is a beast, I believe his role would've been huge if not for the injury. If healthy this year he will take added pressure off either quarterback
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"I believe his role would've been huge if not for the injury. If healthy this year he will take added pressure off either quarterback"
Yes, but there WAS the injury. My question is, for all that pay attention to the off-season workouts etc. Is he back working out?
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It is not something that I necessarily wanted either, but there will be two new QB's by summer (at least 1). I still see Wells taking the snaps in fall, but I also feel that Hocksick has a great opportunity. Fever and Go said it best ...does coach Shane really want a running QB? I don't think so, but it is what it is. I have other areas of greater concern than our QB.
Two new QBs by summer? You mean besides the QBs already on the roster?
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No ...Hocksick +1
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No ...Hocksick +1
1AA, You're driving me crazy! It's Hosick.
(and this is a "do as I say, not as I do" situation, since nobody spells worse than I do!)
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Sorry. I should know better.
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Sorry. I should know better.
Was your "Hocksick" making a political statement? Lots of times I write things like the "Pittsburgh Stealers" as a way of digging someone.
Have you seen any workouts yet? Any initial impressions of the newcomers? We have a TON of redshirts from last season as well. Actually a small recruiting class, but more new players on the roster than last year.
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Not yet. I was wondering is anyone went out today? I am taking off this Friday & will try to see things over the weekend.
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Not yet. I was wondering is anyone went out today? I am taking off this Friday & will try to see things over the weekend.
Keep us all posted. We all value your judgment, at least all, now that our Pal is banned! BTW Thanks for that! Cripes, I don't mind arguing sports. I wouldn't be on here if I didn't, but good grief, I don't hate anybody, even the "Stealers"! That guy is sad.
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I'm going to take in 3 practices this week. I will do my best to inform everyone on all 3 phases of the game and individual and group sessions and what players stand out to me and how the new coaches are interacting with the players. I will give my honest and informed opinion for those who are interested
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Awesome Fever ...thanks!
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"I believe his role would've been huge if not for the injury. If healthy this year he will take added pressure off either quarterback"
Yes, but there WAS the injury. My question is, for all that pay attention to the off-season workouts etc. Is he back working out?
Go Guins- From the information I received from today's practice Ryan looked very good and hasn't missed a beat. Even tho its early in the quarterback competition Hosick, Davis, and Mays all struggled in the team sessions and all 3 threw pick 6's. Wells looked very sharp and threw several long passes over the middle two of them to the tight ends
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Yes I heard the same as Fever.... QB's a little rusty.
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[/quote] Go Guins- From the information I received from today's practice Ryan looked very good and hasn't missed a beat. Even tho its early in the quarterback competition Hosick, Davis, and Mays all struggled in the team sessions and all 3 threw pick 6's. Wells looked very sharp and threw several long passes over the middle two of them to the tight ends
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Fever: Thanks for the update and I look forward to your continuing reports. I know football is a fall sport, but spring practice is a sure sign that spring is on the way. (Not that we have much to complain about this winter!)
Used to be the 4 greatest words in sports were: "pitchers and catchers report," but the spring game has surpassed that as the bell ringer of spring in most of our minds! Really looking forward to being in the playoffs again...............FINALLY!
You know, Paladin would be slamming me for my unbridled support and blind optimism. But this is exactly the time for optimism and enthusiasm and I make no apologies! Go Penguins!
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"I believe his role would've been huge if not for the injury. If healthy this year he will take added pressure off either quarterback"
Yes, but there WAS the injury. My question is, for all that pay attention to the off-season workouts etc. Is he back working out?
Go Guins- From the information I received from today's practice Ryan looked very good and hasn't missed a beat. Even tho its early in the quarterback competition Hosick, Davis, and Mays all struggled in the team sessions and all 3 threw pick 6's. Wells looked very sharp and threw several long passes over the middle two of them to the tight ends
Fever, Thank you for the information.
If the session was focusing on passing, I have no doubt that Wells will do well. However, I am interested in finding out, later in the spring practice, how he would do in a pass/run option situation.
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Even tho its early in the quarterback competition Hosick, Davis, and Mays all struggled in the team sessions and all 3 threw pick 6's.
Yikes. They picked up where Wells left off in the fall.
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Even tho its early in the quarterback competition Hosick, Davis, and Mays all struggled in the team sessions and all 3 threw pick 6's.
Yikes. They picked up where Wells left off in the fall.
I'm not sure that the first workout of the spring it exactly time to panic. Let's give the players and coachs at least a couple days before we do!
I'll bet money (a very small amount) we come out of the spring with the QB race down to 2 (Trent & Hunter) but probably go well into the fall before picking a starter, and even then playing 2 regularly. Right now the bigger concern is WR, OL and can Ryan Moore return to form.
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Great show today guys!! You two are good together. fb
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Great show today guys!! You two are good together. fb
Great show indeed. Nice review and insider info of Pro Day, Spring practice, and the new coaches. Information you just don't get from the local media. I'd like to know more about the injury to I'tavius, though. It was interesting to hear a QB's perspective of the QB competition. I'm getting the sense that #7 (Hosick) is not making the impact that was hoped for, although still so very early in the process.
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My apologies but I won't be able to report on today's practice. I've experienced some flight delays from S.F. to Chicago to A.C.A. because of the higher winds in the region , but I will be in Youngstown area with family for the next week or so, reports will be on there way. Yes Go if we can't get enthusiastic about the possibilities that exist for this season then we all have serious problems. Bo has even said it himself that he fully expects to contend for a National championship and anything less would be a disappointment and I truly believe this. He is a smart coach and knows exactly what he has here. It was a learning curve for him and his staff in 2015 and I think he would really like to have a few of those games back and feels partly responsible for the collapse and won't let it happen again. The players are buying into his system for year 2 and I believe many leaders will step up. It's early yet and players will be rusty. I'm sure Trent for example has worked some with the offense and receivers this off-season. Hunter has a leg up with almost two full seasons under his belt and tons of reps with his teammates and his familiarity with the YSU defense. Bo and Shane both have a plan in this Quarterback competition and right now that's the million dollar question. You could very well see a rotation once again, but thats not something I'm in favor of. We need other quarterbacks to step up and show us they can throw and make good sound decisions along the way
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Nathan Mays was the only guest today and you can tell he's a very smart and intelligent kid. He feels like he has improved a great deal from last season. Tanner Garry called in from Slippery Rock and ask Ricky how the quarterback competition was going. Ricky said it was going good and it's the best he's ever played since joining YSU and the coaches are happy with his performance
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Ryan Moore was on the show today and he is officially hanging up the cleats for good. He is a very smart kid and will have a bright future ahead of him. Big loss for the offense, but I have a good idea who that bigger back might be
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Ryan Moore was on the show today and he is officially hanging up the cleats for good. He is a very smart kid and will have a bright future ahead of him. Big loss for the offense, but I have a good idea who that bigger back might be
Disappointed for the kid.
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Nine injuries in three years. I totally get his reason for opting out. Interesting that he won't encourage his kids to play FB. Sounds like a solid kid, as is everyone interviewed on that show.
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O.C. Shane Montgomery was on the show today. He sounded really concerned with the receivers and the youth at that position. He pretty much said with the quarterback drops if the receivers don't do a better job of creating separation and catching the ball this offense will struggle. Basically the same problem as last season along with the offensive line injuries. I think he feels good about the rest of the offense as a whole
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A couple of us have been saying that. But to hear it from Coach M. Gives it some traction.
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Well, that is really concerning as well though. If he has mentioned it, he is speaking to the fact that we haven't noticeably improved on that. I was hoping some of the developing youth would also develop their hands. :-[
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Remember we have the juco coming in from California who supposedly catches everything that he touches. Need at least two more receivers that we can count on. An FBS transfer, perhaps?
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I have no idea how the JUCO is going to perform, but I wish I had a buck for every recruit that came in "catching everything he touches", including Scott from Hubbard, if I recall. (Technically I suppose it's true in Scott's case. We haven't thrown him anything and he hasn't dropped anything)
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Fever,
From your observations at the practices, do any redshirt freshmen from Pelini's first class show any potential as receivers? Wide receiver seems to be the position where Wolford's habit of recruiting "athletes" rather than "football players" has hurt us the most. I will never forget the sure touchdown pass that went right through the hands of one of those athletes during the fourth quarter of the NDSU game last November.
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From what I've seen, Harvin and Shakelford have shown good promise. Scott from Hubbard as well. Some issues with route running and holding onto the ball. They have small, speedy guys that can play the slot as well...... Won't know much until fall camp.
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Some consistent ball delivery will go a long way as well.
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Some consistent ball delivery will go a long way as well.
This is an underappreciated part of the game. Good grief, I could catch balls from Tom Brady, the ball is right there, every time. Same with LeBron and the Cavs. You get the ball delivered in the right spot consistently and good things happen. Spring ball just complicates the problem, because so many different guys are throwing the ball it never comes the way you expect. Once somebody is getting “starter reps” things should improve a little, but comments like “Some issues with route running and holding onto the ball,” reminds me of the doctor saying “the surgery was a success, but the patient died.” What else is there but route running and catching the ball?
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Final show today with BP calling in. Sounds like a FBS tackle may transfer here...welcome news. It was very entertaining and informative show, sorry to see it end.
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Final show today with BP calling in. Sounds like a FBS tackle may transfer here...welcome news. It was very entertaining and informative show, sorry to see it end.
I agree. I enjoyed the show and it was nice to hear about the team from the players prospective. Bo seems like he has the backing of the players and it is nice to see that he supports them in things they do off the field as well. fb
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I thought it was just over for the summer? If not. I will set up a spot for them on this site. It is actually quite easy to do, it is the entertainment that is the hard part.
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I thought it was just over for the summer? If not. I will set up a spot for them on this site. It is actually quite easy to do, it is the entertainment that is the hard part.
That would be GREAT!