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The last 2 games have been very surreal. We beat Pitt, Northern Iowa. Then we went to a bye week, and we look clueless? thoughts
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Done! Can't win without a competent defense in this league! 6-5 at best!
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The last 2 games have been very surreal. We beat Pitt, Northern Iowa. Then we went to a bye week, and we look clueless? thoughts
I think we will still make the playoff. we should be able to get in with 3 losses since we have beaten Pit and we did not play any D2 team. I am steill an optimist. Let us don't forget that we have lost to the top 2 teams in the conference.
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Yep! And Southern Illinois beat the team we just played 17-0. If we don't fix the defense before the next game, this season is over!
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YSUGO...
We beat Pitt, that game Pitt seemed to be out of touch with reality.
Then there were those cake games. Northern Iowa, who
seems to be out of sorts for this season, and we played
them on our field. NDSU, lets face it they are really a
good team. Today...what can I say...Southern Illinois
beat Illinois State last week. To me, this was a win, win
game for YSU. GEEZ....I know where I put the blame.
What do all of you think. Question. WHOM DO WE BLAME
FOR OUR LOSS TODAY?
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YSUGO...
We beat Pitt, that game Pitt seemed to be out of touch with reality.
Then there were those cake games. Northern Iowa, who
seems to be out of sorts for this season, and we played
them on our field. NDSU, lets face it they are really a
good team. Today...what can I say...Southern Illinois
beat Illinois State last week. To me, this was a win, win
game for YSU. GEEZ....I know where I put the blame.
What do all of you think. Question. WHOM DO WE BLAME
FOR OUR LOSS TODAY?
Coach Wolford has a 24 hour rule. I think Strollo should take advantage of the 24 hour rule and make some coaching changes, and he should start at the top.
Does that answer your question as to who, I blame?
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WOW.....and Indiana State goes out and beats #1 NDSU. Crap, we still have to play them yet too
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Soooooo, let's see here. SIU beat ISU (R) and YSU plays SIU next week. And NDSU loses to ISU (B) and we've to play them. Oh yeah and theres SDSU yet. We have a real shot at losing 3 more games this year. What happens if that scenario plays out and we lose? I think you have to now start asking for Wolford's dismissal. What a HUGE disappointment this coaching staff has become.
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Counting only the statistics from league games, we score a mediocre 25 points per game and we give up a staggering average of 39+ per game. And we are supposed to believe that this is a playoff team! Wolford might not respect our grasp of football, but we all know that this penguin won't fly >:(
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I agree we are getting worse as the year progresses and we still have to play teams that will just roll over our pitiful defense. I originally thought 9-2 at the beginning of the year but 7-4/6-5 is more reality. We will probably lose a home game to either Indiana St or S. ill and get killed at S. Dakota st. 7-4 record will not get us in the playoffs. Wolford needs to stop worrying about out scoring opponents because it isn't working out. Our offense sucks when it counts. So far we are heading towards a major trainwreck conducted by Wolford and his overrated staff.
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The offense blew it today. Offensive line looked horrible. Hess has some horrible throws. Receivers could not get separation and then dropped balls. Unbelievable to have them score 28 unanswered points..... Wow
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I know this has been mentioned in the past but one has to wonder the effect Wolfords willingness to start younger players over upperclassmen the past couple of years. How do you justify some of the decisions they made? I dont see how you build team unity.... In watching todays game I guess you dont.....? Who stops the bleeding and who is the leader on defense? There is NO enthusiasm, No one leading by example.... Everything is REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.... They have to WIN 2 out of 3 from SIU, Indy St, SDS to make the playoffs......!
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WOW.....and Indiana State goes out and beats #1 NDSU. Crap, we still have to play them yet too
I told you guys that NDSU is not that good. Just think how bad this score would have been had we not had 6 stops by the defense today. Just how bad is ILS that our defense was able to get 6 stops? NDSU is not done losing and ILS is going to lose a lot of games between now an Thanksgiving.
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My thoughts is anyone cares:
There is no excuse to blow a 21 point lead (which should have been a 28 point lead had we not had the off sides penalty and had to re-kick).
I really can't believe how the defense lines up in coverage, the corner back is 12 yards off the receiver, the Lb's are lined up like dominoes and the DL actually lines up on their OL. The best part is that the other team changes the play when they see the safety alignment and we don't switch it up. As a matter of fact, more often than not the LB's actually back up. There are rarely any stunts or movement on defense. It looks like backyard football.
Why aren't these kids on the DL taught to bull rush the QB and avoid their OL as much as possible. Use your technique when needed, but if you can get a clear shot, then go for it. It looked as if we were actually lining up with our opponents OL to stay on the block until the runner came through. If the DL can get into the backfield, then the LB's can clean up and they won't have as much time to throw. Watch LSU's DL from the South Carolina game. They put on a clinic on how you get to the QB.
I can't believe that people are in denial about our defensive issues and want to blame the O. The freaking secondary face-guarded like eleventy billion times and got called for it once. Why are we doing this? They sure as hell are not playing like football players. You would think that they would understand this basic concept by now after playing the game their whole entire life. They have opportunities to get INT's but they never turn around.
We got burned on a gadget play again. I called it it two plays before. I expected a flea flicker or halfback pass and it happened. We got sucked in because we don't play with discipline and can't make the reads fast enough. 3rd time this season.
The special teams.........well there was an improvement, but the careless 5 yard off-sides penalty cost us a re-kick where we went into one of those mental lapses again. Second time around we let them have it on the 50. We are inconsistent because we can't kick the ball out of the end zone even if the wind is at our backs. We don't block well enough to free up Stubbs on the return either. As fast as he is we should be expect to start on the 40. The best teams put their starters on special teams and place emphasis on special teams as I said last week it appears to be an afterthought.
Stupid penalties were a big factor as well. That 15 yard personal foul by #2 happened at a really bad time. It looked like we were driving.
The 4th down and 16 call to go for it with the wind at your back at the 44 yard line? Do I need to explain this? Perhaps I will just say that the odds are less in your favor the further the distance on 4th down. STUPID.
The offense was shut down from good DL play. We were not able to pick up the blitz and the receivers could not get open before Hess could get the ball off. As a result Hess was on the run and his accuracy is much worse while on the run. Where are the adjustments on offense?
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"The offense was shut down from good DL play. We were not able to pick up the blitz and the receivers could not get open before Hess could get the ball off. As a result Hess was on the run and his accuracy is much worse while on the run. Where are the adjustments on offense?"
According to Coach Wolford, we're not built for that either. hahahahhahahah
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This coaching staff makes no adjustments to win games. None
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Wolford said he needs to make personnel changes. I suspect he needs to look at coaching changes as well. There is no reason why these kids consistently play out of position. It looks like we give the effort. Something to think about:
If Heacock had this defense what would it look like? You have to vive Heacock credit, he may have hated recruiting, but hecould get the most out of bis defense talent level. The Heacock's are excellent defensive coordinators.
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Playoffs? I don't want them in the playoffs.
Think maybe we can find a kicker from all these 50 states that can kick the ball in the end zone?
Or that you have confidence in trying to kick a field goal with?
No disrespect to Brown, but Wolf won't even TRY a fg longer than 30
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Didn't get to watch. Who was Underwood lined up over? Heard his stats on the postgame. Unreal. Sometimes when you are overmatched talent wise in a one on one matchup, you give that OT some help.
C'mon Randy and OL coach, you guys know that.
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lecter, he was not that good, but he is excellent. This O-line should not have had the trouble late in the game. Early, he was being forced outside, later we could not get him to move outside, so they really had no less than 6-men in the box on any play. Which was why I was screaming to get under center with two backs. We could have 'eaten them alive' with good old off-tackle running. The sides were susceptible & they were pressuring Hess. We cannot continue to use our TE's as WR's and leave our backfield wide open. The other option to counter-act pressure in the backfield is just that ..the option. However, Hess is not built for that type of speed option ...and I do not mean that as a "dig". Also we do not use Christian Bryan anywhere near enough. We cannot continue to ignore good WR's for TE's. Also why did we not have more use of Pace with power runs and passes in the short-flat? Send Sharbaugh and Pace at them ...a great power run combo. Then Pace at 5 and Sharbaugh (or Shaw) at 10 to pass. Then hit Bryan for 10+ when the ends back off. I am confident that coach M can make the adjustments.
Power: There is not a day that has gone bye, in the last 3 seasons, that I have not wondered what coach H could have done with all this influx of cash, and be lucky enough to bring coach Shane in at OC/aHC. Now all I do is hope that coach M does not get a the big offer that we all know is coming.
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1-AA---we're all disappointed in the last two weeks, but for God's sake can you stop with the incessant love affair with Heacock. Wolford may or may not be the answer, but Heacock had 9 years and made the playoffs once. I think the world of Heacock as much as anyone but he didn't get the job done and his time was up. Move on. Please.
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Power: There is not a day that has gone bye, in the last 3 seasons, that I have not wondered what coach H could have done with all this influx of cash, and be lucky enough to bring coach Shane in at OC/aHC. Now all I do is hope that coach M does not get a the big offer that we all know is coming.
Heacock had many years and many opportunities to succeed as a HC. He didn't do it. The point of my post is that he got a ot out of his less talented players and they played well fundamentally.
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This how I see it after sleeping on it:
#1 we need a greater focus on special teams. Easy to fix especially with fast athletes. Need to work on down field blocking and opening up lanes when returning. Need to get off blocks and hold the lanes when defending.
#2 Defense: We must get a pass rush and become more disruptive to the opposing QB. It will do several things. First of all it will make our secondary look better. The lack of time to throw down field will be reduced and deep routes will be less of a threat. Secondly the pass rush will allow the LB's to move forward in the event of a run instead of backward and it will keep the opposing receivers closer to the LOS which is easier for the LB's to cover. We need to shift the DL around and NOT line up on the opposing OL. They need to be in a sprint to get the QB every time. We still need to be concerned about screen plays, but if we can get pressure with 3 D linemen then we will be in better shape. Is this possible? Not based on what I have seen so far, but the DL pressure has to be the key. Need to stunt and move the LB's around constantly. I never see the LB's making calls on D. Perhaps a contributing cause of the problem is the lack of leadership at the LB position. The LB's need to be field generals and we are not seeing it. How do we fix it? I don't know. Then after we get this corrected we need to tackle better and pursue at correct angles. Should be able to fix this as well.
#3 Offense: Protect the QB better and give him more time. Hess is not throwing well when he is on the run. his accuracy is much worse when he is on the run. He needs enough time to get the ball out in the pocket.
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Andre Stubbs with 2 catches the whole game is horrible. Need to split Will Shaw out wide and stop lining him up on the line. We could sure use Davion Rogers back, I don't care what anybody says that kid made so many plays last year. He was the best player on the field. Shame for him. LB is a huge problem
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1-AA---we're all disappointed in the last two weeks, but for God's sake can you stop with the incessant love affair with Heacock. Wolford may or may not be the answer, but Heacock had 9 years and made the playoffs once. I think the world of Heacock as much as anyone but he didn't get the job done and his time was up. Move on. Please.
Thank you.
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1-AA---we're all disappointed in the last two weeks, but for God's sake can you stop with the incessant love affair with Heacock. Wolford may or may not be the answer, but Heacock had 9 years and made the playoffs once. I think the world of Heacock as much as anyone but he didn't get the job done and his time was up. Move on. Please.
I moved on quite a long time ago IP. Long before any of you did. In fact, When I called for coach H to go ...you all mocked me. Then I was proven wrong (maybe) a year later with a deep play-off run. I did not make the choice to keep him ...nor did I support it. I talk strictly because he was/is a better coach than what we have now, yet we pay more to coach W alone, than we did to coach H's entire staff. That may not be saying much ...except the truth. I am doing the same now, as I did when coach H's contract came up for renewal, the first time. Heackcock is the last coach prior to Wolf, that is the reason I use his name. If it makes you feel better, stick any former Penguin coach in my statements ...they all fit. I have no 'love affair with Heacock' ...I love YSU.
When is the last time you heard fans not want to make the post-season because they are afraid to be embarrassed?
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"When is the last time you heard fans not want to make the post-season because they are afraid to be embarrassed?"
+1,000,000
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Any "fan" who says they don't want to make the post-season is a lunatic. You make the post-season and anyone can go on a run. Weather and injuries can become factors and so can lucky bounces. YSU did not have the best regular season team the first and fourth championships won in the nineties. They got hot at the right time.
As far as the money goes, yes Heacock did not get the money Wolford is. Heacock buried himself with his loyalty to poor assistant coaches. As far as sticking "any" former coach in a discussion, that discussion begins and ends with Tressel.
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We are 4-2, and people are wishing us not to make the playoffs, wishing for the old regime that couldnt ever win a big game other than in 2006...thank u Mr. Mason. Seriously, the potential is there. we need some serious Senior leadership and a gut check from the coaching staff.
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Thank u Mr. Mason? I remember a playoff game against James Madison in 2006 when Mason was completely shut down until the 4th quarter. How can you make comments like that and call yourself a fan?
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I hope we make the playoffs! Rough two games....I hope we can regroup and get the penguin train moving again......
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ;D
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I hope we make the playoffs! Rough two games....I hope we can regroup and get the penguin train moving again......
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ;D
LOL ;D Got your history degree at YSU scuba LOL!!
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Thank u Mr. Mason? I remember a playoff game against James Madison in 2006 when Mason was completely shut down until the 4th quarter. How can you make comments like that and call yourself a fan?
Mason was injured, and only played on 3-series (first 2, and last). At least two of which ended up with scores. It was "Q" that was shut-down. Honestly, Q had almost 100-yards ...so it was not a bad game for him either. We just fell apart in inside the 30. However, it was Mason that came in & took three snaps for the the winning TD. Just a thing of beauty. They had no answer for him. Not too many teams did. ILS held Mason in check the next week ...close game. Then week-3 was the Appy State blow-out ...that was my biggest embarrassment until these past 2-weeks.
You see, we made the semis with a team that was not stellar, but certainly above average. Just disciplined by experience. This current team has a seasoned front line, and 3 excellent TE's ...our strongest positions. Yet, our opponents alter the look of their front D front & then send in the ends and we collapse. So why are we still sending out our TE's as receivers, instead of placing them in a more traditional blocking capacity ...giving Hess some additional protection? They all block well ...Adams probably has the best blocking technique, and Sharbaugh is a beast. Furthermore, why did we not bring in Pace to see if we could power run, and/or short pass to him. He is really a FB with some "style". I would also suggest and imbalanced line, and try to force the opposing defense to adjust. They would only get us once out of three tries ...at best.
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Great movie!! Let's hope our boys are ready this weekend.....
It was hard to watch the team roll over and die against the redbirds.
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Lets Go Guins!!! >:(